PlayStation Universe looks at the state of current gen preorders between Xbox 360 and PS3, then takes a look forward to PS4 vs Xbox One preorders.
"Exodia obliterate" No one... okay.
I see what you did there. I wonder how many people will.
yeah i remember old yugioh....
Awh, yeah, I got Exodia! "Naw, man. That's just his head." Wowwwwww, YuGiOh... *facepalm*
"I've finally broken all the magical seals... I call forth ... the unstoppable Exodia!
We all know his deck was rigged.
Rigged? I think you mean heart of the card brah ;)
Obliterate... AAAAAAHHHHHHH I GOT ITTTTTTTT
Pegasus was such a dick.
Is Exodia obliterate something to do with card games?
Obliterate is such a good word.
It obliterates every other word.
What about annihilate? Obliterate's only rival.
I dunno man.Decimate annihilates obliterate imo
@DayZ, even the definition of Decimate is intimidating. "Kill, destroy, or remove a large percentage of" Granted, that is only the modern definition. Decimate is misused so often; it actually means to reduce by one tenth. So, it's actually a very minuscule thing. (But, according to most dictionaries, this is now false. I feel like we can thank the hipsters for that).
Note to remember: The USA was a big 360 install base. That combined with millions do not buy a console day one means it isn't such a suprise the 360 game pre-orders are a head. Expect last gen to have more pre-order games early in this coming gen while the rest of the previous install base adopts. I know it is VG chartz (about as reliable as a chocolate teapot) but if the PS4 is gaining in the USA over the One Microsoft needs to act now with its advertisement capmaign. Japan is Sony, USA is Microsoft and Europe is mainly Sony with bits of Microsoft. Like a game of risk you don't want to loose your stronghold
All the changes are being made because of low pre-order numbers. If pre-order numbers were on par with PS4 from day one Microsoft would have no reason to make any changes to their system and policies. Customers are speaking with their wallets.
This is absolutely correct! Lets take a look at Amazon's top 100 sales for 2013 so far to get a better picture of the situation. #3 - Playstation 4: Launch Day Edition #7 - Xbox One: Day One Edition #32 - Playstation 4: Standard Edition #68 - Playstation 4: Watch Dogs Bundle #70 - Playstation 4: Battlefield 4 Bundle The standard edition Xbox One hasn't hit the top 100 yet, I'm assuming it will within a month or so though. This is the clearest sign that more people are preordering the PS4 in the USA, at least on Amazon. Maybe Xbox gamers are just waiting for the Mountain Dew and Doritos edition Xbox One?
There are so many games coming for PS3 this year, it's hard to say that one is destroying the other. You can look at big franchises and say one or three is selling more on the other, but if you add up all the software between all the big titles being released this year, Sony actually comes out ahead. Sony just has more 1st and 3r party exclusives coming out for the rest of this year than MS has had total in the last three years, and they seem to be doing pretty well.
More numbers for fans of a particular next gen console to dismiss. We'll see what effect the latest 180 from MS will have over the next few weeks. For people who don't want a camera on their console, making it unpluggable but still making you pay for it won't be much of a selling point.
I look at it like this, If you don't want kinnect & all of the gaming & non gaming next gen features it enables you to have, then don't buy an xbox one. LOL...if all you want is updated graphics, buy the ps4. That's exactly what the ps4 is. Better graphics plus now they want you to pay to play onine. That's the two differences between the ps4 & the ps3. Buy that if that's your cup of tea. But, for those who want experience not just better graphics, but better gameplay and experiences, buy the xbox one! Being able to unplug the camera is more of a feature for those gamers who were concerned about privacy. Those who thought that the government would be spying on you through the camera. LOL...But when you buy your favorite game, and it has kinnect features that make the gameplay more immersive, whether it's voice, gesture, motion, or expression, heartbeat, or controller tracking....plug it in if you want to use it for that game. MS's changes are simply giving more choice to the consumer. Who complains about choices? Now, if you just simply don't want to pay for Kinnect, then your choice is simple. DON'T BUY THE XBOX ONE! Conversation OVER!
Many people want to play Halo and Forza, but they don't want to pay for a camera they have no interest in using. Look how many 360s were sold, then look how many Kinects were sold. The majority of 360 users didn't want Kinect. Now you have to buy it whether you want it or not. You're assuming better gameplay and experiences from Kinect, but nothing like that has happened yet and nothing announced so far qualifies. Until that happens, there's no reason not to expect more of the same casual titles that turned many people against MS in the last few years. A quick google search of "microsoft nsa" will show you that wondering who will have access to your information and/or conversations and/or images is not something to LOL about. It's a real concern, not only with Microsoft but they are definitely in the middle of that whole discussion. Kinect is just one of many ways such info can be gathered, but none of them are cool. MS's changes are not giving more choice to the consumer. If they were, the original One policies would still be an option for those that wanted them. MS changes are simply offering a different One than was previously announced. That's not more choices. It's the same number of choices. This conversation won't be over for some time, no matter how much you want it to go away.
MysticStrummer The Kinnect is part of the xbox one. If you won't want it, you have two choices. 1. Don't buy the xbox one 2. Buy the Xbox one and unplug the Kinnect. It's really not that complicated. MS has made a decision to make the kinnect part of the xbox one experience. PERIOD. They are pushing the industry forward. The original Kinnect sold very well, but it was basically a HUGE Beta Test for the Kinnect 2. There was as many Kinnects sold as the 1st xbox. Over 24 million sold. Sure that's half of the xbox live users and only 1/3 rd of the total install base. There were 2 reasons the original Kinnect only had casual games for the most part. 1. Kinnect wasn't perfect. It had some lag and was far from perfect. 2. Kinnect was optional. By it being optional, hardcore game developers didn't feel the need to invest in the tech. They want to reach as many gamers as possible to push sales. So, with MS making Kinnect 2 part of the system, both of the issues that plagued the original kinnect are GONE! And because it's a standard, it's ONE CLEAR way that Xbox One separates itself from the competition. It's very important that MS & Sony give consumers different products. If they were exactly the same, the industry would be STALE, Boring, and stagnant. Gamers need to stop complaining. If you don't want it, don't buy it. Let the rest of us enjoy NEW and exciting tech and you stay with the status quo. Don't be surprised if the family share comes back before or shortly after launch for Digital Games. That is exactly why I'm never purchasing a disc again (well except for my ps4 games). All digital for me on my xbox ones.
You are very biased in all your comments. You don't even bother to look at the positives on both sides. Or the negatives. "if you don't want kinect and all of the gaming and non-gaming next-gen features it enables you to have, buy the PS4." Well, I'm sorry to say this, but not everyone can talk. What happens to those people? They just wasted $100 for nothing. I mean, unless they wanted the Kinect for games. I don't understand how it's supposed to make gameplay more "immersive" either. Most games will be available for both consoles, and giving the Xbox One more features for most of those games seems pretty unrealistic to me. If you're talking about Xbox One exclusives, well, PS4 could pretty much do the same thing. Only thing they really don't have is voice command, or so I've been told. The Kinect recognizes heartbeat as well? What in the world would they need that for? Only thing that would be good for is if someone had a heart attack, they would be able to contact the authorities. Even then, I'm pretty sure that wouldn't be the case considering how that feature wouldn't work for people not in USA. Is privacy not an issue to you? Only reason I kind of agree with you with the NSA not spying on people with the camera, is because they already do, much better with or without the Kinect. It seems you didn't reply about the privacy issue to the other guy, so I'm assuming he's right. Again, unplugging the Kinect? Why can't we just separate it? In fact, they should just stick with it being not unpluggable. All their changes just make it seem like they were never ready to release the X1, and that they don't know what they're doing. The first Kinect was a huge beta test? So, by that, you mean they failed in making an impressive motion control device? Also, by that logic, if I bought a 360 and it was incredibly horrible, and they released the X1 a few years later, it's fine because it was just a HUGE beta test, right? It's not something that separates it from the PS4. The inability of not having a Kinect is what separates it, and that obviously isn't that big. The PS4 still has the eye. Though I know that the Kinect pretty much beats it, hopefully at least, the only main difference, as I have said before, is that it doesn't have voice command. Hardcore game developers will invest in the tech? Why would they waste money for that? Unless of course, you think game developers for Xbox Exclusives are the only ones that are "hardcore." If they were in it for the money, then they would earn more money by not touching the tech at all. For example, BF4 would not invest in that tech. They know that a lot of people would buy their game anyway. That just saved them a couple hundred-thousand dollars. It's now new and exciting tech? Exciting, I can't argue with. That's an opinion. New? That's something I can argue with. The only new feature they added was it having voice command. And the fact is, being able to identify your gestures and motions, are not new. Perhaps nobody did it as well, but it's far from new. Besides, it seems like a waste of electricity. If you just spoke to the machine to turn it on, then it's obviously in standby mode. It still uses up electricity. If you even bother arguing with me in that statement, I'd just know instantly that you are an Xbox fanboy. If you argue with me asking, "it's turned off, obviously it doesn't use up electricity," Well, machines don't work that way. They need batteries or electricity to make them run. This also means that since the Kinect is on, NSA could spy on you at anytime. Unplugging the X1 would obviously make the feature useless, so I doubt that's an option.
@Elite You're right, it's not that complicated. As I said, those (the majority of 360 users) who didn't want it as an option won't want it as a mandatory thing that adds to the price. Good job avoiding answering my points by posting MS Defense #1-5 Peace and good gaming.
You cant have a convo with elite that makes sense without him bringing up the MSdefensebook, this is the same guy (elite24gamer) that about a month or so ago said MS had some huuuuuuge megaton news for E3 that would blow ppl away and he got it from an inside source yet nothing happened and he wouldnt talk about what it was meant to be, so just ignore him and move on.
And the pre-order numbers game continue.....why you ask? Because it makes so many lives meaningful. On a serious not, I would like to know why the big gap in the Watch Dog pre-orders. I want to get Battlefield at launch, but not sure for which system....historically I have enjoyed fps on the 360 controller, but intrigued by what the dual shock 4 controller can/will bring to the table....as well as how much further Sony's online community will have evolved. For now, back to enjoying Battlefield 3 on psn+.
I have pre-ordered the console but not yet decided what games I want at launch. I am pretty sure many are thinking about what they want as well. Games are not usually something that are hard to find at launch so I am not really worried about pre-ordering anything.
only USA though. The X360 has like a 15 millions lead over the PS3 on that region but now with the PS4 dominating the USA too the Xbox division must be pissing in their pants right now. On top of it the game pre-orders between PS3 and X360 are not far away either... Seriously, if I was MS I'd be really desperate and scared at this point.
Sony has done a better job than MS igniting their hardcore fan base. Thus the lead for hardware & software up to this point in the launch window. But understand, the launch window is exactly that. Only hardcore fans care who is leading at that point. Once the marketing begins, the bulk of the gamers who dictate which console ends up ultimately being more successful are the Average/Casual gamers. The ones who are still buying games for the xbox 360 & the Ps3. Those gamers don't care about what EVERYONE in these internet furums are talking about. They play what they like, they play with friends, and it's not a war to them. With Sony having a cheaper sku than MS, that definitely could sway some gamers. But, I have a feeling that with the type of Money MS has behind them, they will do some creative things to lesson or erase that gap prior to launch. Example: A. Bundle in a year of xbox live for Free $60 dollar value B. Just drop the price by $50 dollars (a multi billion dollar company can do that) C, Internet or cable tv providers taking $100 dollars off the price of the console if you sign a 1 or 2 year contract with them. But one thing they should never do is remove Kinnect from the sku. Kinnect is the main feature that seperates the xbox one from the Ps4. We can talk about which console is potentially more powerfull, but reality is games for both consoles will look amazing and only gaming geeks will be able to see any tangible difference between the two. Developer after developer has already said that either there is no difference or it's very minimal. And hardware is one thing, but software tools and other things that developers can do creatively with powerful machines will end up showing that both consoles will have amazing looking & playing games. MS has done great things to even the playing field up to this point. Don't be surprised if they have one more trick up their sleeve which would put both consoles on even ground. PRICE. With that said, Sony fans are more outspoken and more passionate so in a small box such as this forum, perception will be that Sony is winning the war. Like I said, up to this point Sony has done a great job igniting it's core base. Both consoles will sell very well, but more importantly, this is why competition is important in gaming. It grows the industry and Gamers ultimately win. If MS does something creative to lower the price, it only happens because of the price point that Sony is launching with. Great! I feel that MS was just a little too ambitious and was really trying to push the industry in new exciting directions. Sony played it extremely safe. They stuffed as much gaming graphic tech in the box and made it simple for devs. They basically said this is the ps3 but with better graphics. If you are an honest sony fan, you have no problem with that. But MS was trying to do more than that. Really trying to push the industry. Not just better graphics, but they are trying to grow and evolve the industry. Kinnect is one way, TV integration is another way.
1.) A year bundle of XBL is VERY UNLIKELY. Besides, the year bundle of PS+ is $50. Why is it unlikely you ask? Well, considering how everything on X1 is pretty much behind a pay wall, I doubt they would make a $60 year bundle. All those features with XBL is NOT just $60 a year. Anyway, I'm not to sure if X1 uses a cable type feature with the TV, or whether it uses Netflix and Hulu. If it is a cable type feature, then hopefully that isn't behind a pay wall. If it uses Netflix or Hulu, then technically, the X1 costs $560. Because clearly, the TV integration is a next-gen thing that separates it from the PS4. The PS4 also does not need Ps+ for Netflix or Hulu, so that's definitely cheaper. That's just one of the reasons PS4 is a better console. I'll explain the rest later in this comment, 2.) No, they will not just drop the price $50. Unless they have a good reason behind it, they will not just drop it for whatever reason. It's a company, 3.) One thing they should do IS to remove the Kinect. I've already stated in my previous comment why this is. Finally, the reasons I'd prefer PS4. Since everything in X1 pretty much pushes you to use online, I'm going to talk about PS online as well. The difference, most features in X1 are hidden behind the XBL pay wall. PS+ has free cross-game chat, Netflix/Hulu, etc. Both of them are needed for online multiplayer. Except that free-to-play games on the PS4 are actually free. Even online multiplayer. These games are Planetside 2, Warframe,DC Univerese, Blacklight Retribution, etc. PS+ has an instant game collection. You can play full games up to an hour. This includes online multiplayer. Free monthly games. They said games FOR the PS4. It's not AC2 or Halo 3. Better discounted prices. This is definitely fact. More popular games are released for PS+. I say "popular" instead of "better" because better is an opinion. Popular is not, The free monthly games also include indie games. This is really amazing. They support self publishing groups. Definitely more features, but do I need to say more? Last thing, no, XBL does not have a better online. It mainly depends on your Internet connection. Also, most games relied on player connection. Not servers. So, this means that the past generation is irrelevant now. X1 said that their games will all use dedicated servers. I'd assume the same goes for PS4, though I haven't read any articles related to this yet. No articles have been written about the amount of servers either. Some articles were all just based on rumors.
Many can say what does TV integration have to do with gaming. Well, when your watching the news, or sportscenter, or Game of Thrones and a friend wants to invite you to a game, the invite pops up while you are watching tv and you can instantly connect to the game. That's a feature that pushes the industry in a new way. Or when you are watching TV, you can receive a Skype call from a friend or family member all in 1080p. That's innovative and at some point in the future, I can see that being a norm in our gaming consoles and MS gave it to us first. If there was no MS, we would all just get a console with upraded graphics. How boring!!!!! THen we look at Kinnect 2.0 , Evert developer who has talked about it, or gamer who has used it, have said that it's much better than the original kinnect. No noticeable lag, etc. So now with it bundled in every console, developers can now play with it and do some creative things that we can't even imagine at this point. That's how you push the gaming industry forward. It can detect heart rate, facial expressions, individual fingers, etc...There are subtle things that devs can do what have zero to do with flailing around your living room. And now they know that every console has it. That was a huge risk that MS made, but they chose the innovative push the industry forward route over the just simply upgrade the graphics route. If you are a real gamer, if you can't appreciate that, then you are very boring indeed. Not everyone is willing or ready for new creative ideas. I remember when controllers first implemented two joysticks on a controller. Many gamers thought it was stupid and not a good idea at the time. And now look at where we are. It's a norm and thank goodness techs tried something new rather than stick with status quo. Ms is taking a hit for trying to be creative and pushing the industry in new and exciting directions. Sony hardcore fans may never understand or care to understand, but any gamer who invests in the new xbox one will be rewarded with next gen games, coupled with next gen features unique to the xbox one! The war is in its infancy. Should be very interesting!
@elite,belking and pfft LOL you guys are soooo cute when you get together , its like you can convince yourselves of anything once you get started. I know you guys might not like or even hate it till it makes you hurt deep inside but sony and playstation is the bigger brand and will sell more thats a fact, that doesnt mean you cant enjoy your xbone (if it does then you have bigger problems than my doctorate in psychology can help with) maybe you guys could even add each other.....that way at least you will have 2 other ppl to play with while everyone else is on psn having fun instead of sulking huh :)
lo... dude please. MS isn't concerned about sony because they know despite all these numbers sony is hurting internally. Sony can outsell ms 3 to 1 and mS would still come away better. Sony really need to come out of the gate swinging. If they don't they will be be in trouble. They really didn't have a choice but to be cheaper than xbox-one.
Even if the do come out the gate guns blazing they are still financially fcked. That debt under their belt is pretty big.
$100 cheaper and yet with better hardware. Can you say faster Ram and a better GPU? A company really "hurting" and yet able to do that, whereas another that isn't "hurting" did not, or shall I say, will not is more accurate here. They really didn't have a choice. Yeah......rigggghhht. Gotcha.
I wonder what will happen when it comes time to pay for these pre orders each sony fan will have 10 on order just to win the order war lmao.
Yes if that helps you sleep better at night, thinking all the ppl put 10 preorders each on ps4 themselves just to make sony look like they are doing better, then ok thats what happened lol but dont go killing yourself when both are officially released and sony is miles ahead from day 1 till gen end. @n4rc below You would also have to factor in the ps4 digital as well then because sony have said they are day one on psn.
Think the stats are flawed in one way. Day one downloads.. I haven't bothered preordering any games because I will buy them digitally.. I'm a lazy guy after work.. Getting up to swap disks doesn't appeal to me.. Lol.. Digital all the way this gen for me
I have two xbox ones pre ordered and 1 ps4. But, same here. I haven't pre ordered one game for the xbox one. I'm going ALL digital. One day we are going to look back and say, "You had to put that, in there, just to play a game" LOL... My household may be unique, but we are ready for discless gaming and all the benefits that come with that. Also, One thing that these charts don't add up is the xbox ones that are purchased directly from the xbox live dashboard. Anyone who has xbox live (50 million gamers) when you turn on your 360 you can purchase the xbox one straight from the dashboard. I know many of my friends did it that way and those numbers aren't calculated yet! I know the sony hardcore fans don't want to hear that, because who wins in sales is important to them for some reason. Next gen isn't just about prettier graphics people. At least for some of us! Both will have that, but what else is Sony doing to push the next gen forward? Think about it.
Love that I get 6 disagrees for stating the obvious fact.. Facts are bad mmmkay.. Lol
Where's your evidence to support this "fact?" Furthermore, where's your evidence to say the PS4 isn't subject to the same hindrance? You have none. You have a mildly plausible supposition, but fail- more like refuse- to recognize that it's a factor for BOTH consoles, meaning it doesn't create the skewed image you think it does.
I have no sympathy for microsoft. Let them rot. It should be a hard learned lesson. Don't piss off the consumer because without us you don't exist.
All the 180's are comin around to bite them in the butt. Don't piss off the consumers.
I couldnt agree more :)
A bit off/on topic, but I have a PS4 pre ordered and to be quite honest I feel the games available at launch are little weak. I have Killzone Shadow Fall preordered and the marvel lego game but I was really hoping soy would've filled the launch list with more first part exclusives, infamous, GoW, Resistance, etc.. now that would've just killed it!
WAIT FOAR GEAMSCAWM. kthxbai
VGChartz is almost always wrong in number of software unit sales. They are a bunch of amateurs. That said, I am sure PS4 is ahead.
A playstation site says this... and yet not a single eye was batted at the fact.
vgchartz.com/preorders/ The numbers don't lie.
People don't need to pre-order games, there will be plenty but consoles that's another story
They're both sold out, so no.
What a great report, it's almost like the current gen has more users than upcoming consoles will have in their first months, crazy!!
Why do the first 11 comments have to do with Yu-Gi-Oh & Obliterate Synonyms? wat
Wow, they weren't kidding. PS4 software pre-orders are completely annihilating xbox one's.
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