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Submitted by JonnyBigBoss 495d ago | rumor

Nvidia Says GTA 5 is Coming to PC, PC Revenue More Than PlayStation and Xbox Combined

CraveOnline writes: "With the PlayStation 4 and Xbox One both set to include AMD chips, you may feel a bit sorry for Nvidia being left out in the cold, but the company doesn't seem too worried. In fact, Nvidia believes that a lot of PC users will invest in new hardware to play games like Call of Duty: Ghosts, Assassin's Creed IV, and Grand Theft Auto 5. Wait a minute!" (Grand Theft Auto V, PC, PS3, PS4, Xbox 360, Xbox One)

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knifefight  +   495d ago
*Grabs Popcorn*
Late 2013 and all of 2014 are going to be so interesting.
JonnyBigBoss  +   495d ago
The mods, man. The mods.

Anyone who has played Skyrim on PC knows what I'm talking about.

"OH YEAH! SNAP INTO A SLIM JIM! *fire breath*"

- Macho Man Dragon
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MestreRothN4G  +   495d ago | Well said
Red Dead Redemption must be awesome on 1080p... On YouTube.

Try harder, Nvidia. And by that that I mean CRY MORE. haha
Hydrolex  +   495d ago
GTA V will come to PC, that's no surprise and nothing new...
B-radical  +   495d ago
Mate i played gta 4 on pc i know what your talking about! the mods! gonna be so good
ABizzel1  +   495d ago | Intelligent
Oh NVIDIA, your butt-hurt knows no bounds, and you simply just can't shut-up and work towards bettering your company instead of badmouthing everyone else.

You have the most powerful GPU's on the market for now, but rumors show AMD is about to knock you down a notch.

Tegra 4 is getting dominated by Snapdragon S4 as mobile devices first pick.

And AMD has supplied GPU's for all 3 consoles, and CPU's for the PS4 and XB1.

PC sales on whole will significantly surpass console gaming, because there are more PC's in the world than there are consoles. The same with mobile devices. It's logical to see that since more people own PC's and tablets / phones that those devices will bring in more revenue.

The problem is NVIDIA you:

1) Don't make CPU's (outside of Tegra), so you're not getting any of that revenue.

2) You don't make media (games / movies / etc...), so you're not getting any of that revenue.

3) All consoles use AMD, so you're not getting any of that revenue.

4) Project Shield is DOA, so you're not getting any of that revenue.

The only revenue you get is on GPU's and you have to split that with AMD, who will likely be the better choice with all 3 consoles using their GPU's.

Pick up your butt-hurt, put it away, and try again next-gen.

Tegra 5 sounds promising (PS360 graphics on mobile finally), but that's about all you have to brag about (maybe the GTX 800 series in 2014). I think you're a great company (at least you were from 2002 - 2012), but you have got to stop this behavior and get your act together.
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Ducky  +   495d ago
^ It was an earnings conference call and the guy made a statement that you seem to be agreeing with.

I didn't see much badmouthing or signs of butthurt.
Well, actually, that's a lie, I saw plenty of that, but it wasn't from nVidia.
ABizzel1  +   495d ago
@Ducky

What was the need to bring the consoles into an NVIDIA conference call when NVIDIA has not stakes in any of these consoles. They've been nagging and downplaying PS4 and XB1 from day one, let it go, and try again next-gen.
Ducky  +   495d ago
^ Consoles were mentioned for comparison's sake.

nVidia makes hardware in the gaming industry, and it's hard to give a presentation on your current and future state without mentioning console gaming and its impact.

So, in their prepared notes, they devoted like four sentences to state that they think PC and mobile gaming will remain strong in the future.
That like what, something which probably made like 2% of their prepared remarks for the conference?

Seemed reasonable to me in any case.
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BattleAxe  +   495d ago
I'm going to wait until GTA5 comes out for PC. Can't wait for this game!
AuToFiRE  +   495d ago
Also GTAV on the Oculus Rift will be epic. Owning the rift myself, I can vouch its the future..
RumbleFish  +   495d ago
@MestreRothN4G:

It's true. It's a sad thing that R* didn't release RDR on a platform that really would be able to display the beauty of the world they've created and to do that with a good performance as well. I would have bought it twice, like I did with GTA 4.

Instead of being a troll, be a gamer!
Tvensky  +   495d ago
any smart human being can say for sure that GTA5 on High end PC will look 10 times better then any last gen console.. its happening with every game for past 2 years... PS4 could be similar to PC.. at least for next 3 years....

anyways.. we all know that GTA5 will go to next gen platfroms also... R* just dont want to tell, because they want to keep pre order nubers rolling for this gen... and later for next... you will see...! I buying it for this and next PS.. why not..
windblowsagain  +   495d ago
modded skyrim looks very nice, but it's still an overrated game.

I prefer the original game i pay money for to be awesome.

GTA4 was very overrated.

9's and 10's should not be given out so easily by gaming sites.
Angeljuice  +   495d ago
@deceiver

Personally, when I look at the graphics on the PS3 version (and the vast improvement made), I can't help but wonder whether this game was actually using the next gen platforms as the lead platform.
This would require the engine to perform a lot of multithreading, which would also benefit the PS3's cell architecture (hence it running so well optimised on PS3).

I believe that PC, XboxOne and PS4 are pretty much done and dusted and just waiting in the wings to be announced (possibly as launch titles for both Next Gen consoles).
vishmarx  +   495d ago
id be happier if nvidia wasnt the one saying this.
its common knowledge that theyre butthurt and will do just about anything to make consoles look bad.

cant believe im saying this but
may or may not be true
DeadlyFire  +   495d ago
I don't understand the negativity towards NVIDIA. :P

There is no reason to hate them. Facts are facts.

PC will have more revenue over time. They are evolving to a point where an APU can run a game at full strength some point soon for 1080p anyway. Not counting any extra GPU power.

NVIDIA is making ARM CPUs for 2014/2015. They are building the first full 64-bit ARM Desktop level CPU/APU as well TBD release.
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starchild  +   495d ago
@MestreRothN4G

Oh no! Red Dead Redemption isn't on the PC! Whatever will we do?!

Seriously now, RDR is a damn good game and I wish it was on PC since that is my main platform, but it isn't a big deal. Most gamers own more than one system and I am no different--I own a PS3 and a 360 in addition to my PC.

It's not like other systems don't miss out on games. You still can't play a Left 4 Dead game, Alan Wake, Mark of the Ninja or The Witcher 2 on the PS3. Also can't play Papo & Yo or Guacamelee on the Xbox 360. So while all of those games can be played on the PC, one or the other console misses out on them.
The_Sneauxman  +   495d ago
"I'M GONNA GET YA!"
aquamala  +   495d ago
interesting news, I have the barebones ps3 version pre-ordered but I much, much rather play on PC
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Dee_91  +   495d ago
WTH is wrong with nvidia and all this ego stroking since next gen was announced?
I mean this is freaking great if true but I think R* wanted to be the ones to make this announcement.
And if it doesn't come on PC ( god forbid) who's going to take the blame for this ?

@DeadlyFire
I dont hate them, and you dont have to tell lies to be hated, its just the ego stroking. I mean I can understand shutting all the people who claim PC gaming is a dying platform ( which is a small minority). But theres tons better ways than going about it like this.Because it just like they are bragging.
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Ilwrath  +   495d ago
Macho Madness... SKY'S THE LIMIT!
The_KELRaTH  +   495d ago
Grid 2 is just about to get an official modding kit :)

Between the PC, X1 and PS4 this will likely remain the one key difference.
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mikeslemonade  +   495d ago
What a blatantly false statement! There theory is PC gaming is evolving and thus bring more revenue is wrong. In certain games it's true but the majority of games the consoles have time and time again proven that the games sell more on consoles. Go look up vgchartz yourself.

Skyrim is 13 million units sold on consoles while PC is under 3 million units. The PS3 alone sold almost 5 million units. So only one console already beats the PC. Also each game is $60 on the consoles so there's also more "revenue" factor coming for the consoles.

http://www.vgchartz.com/gam...

Consoles is where the big money is at. PC is where indie gaming is at. Sure.. you can sell thousands of $5 games but that's not enough revenue to beat consoles. And then you have the big games for PC that are subscription based but there's not that many that are huge. It's much more monopolistic on the PC gaming side. You have the rich making more money while the Indies are picking up the scraps.
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b163o1  +   495d ago
WTH is a personal computer??? O__o
starchild  +   495d ago
@mikeslemonade

Oh jeez, are you seriously using vgchartz? They aren't reliable and they don't track digital PC sales, which is how most PC gamers buy their games.

Furthermore, PC game software generated 20 billion dollars in revenue last year which is far greater than any single console.
http://www.gamesindustry.bi...

This is an incredible figure when you consider the entire gaming industry--which covers all gaming devices (PCs, consoles, handhelds, smartphones, tablets, etc.) and includes both software and dedicated game hardware--generated $67 billion that same year (2012).

"A series of new reports from DFC Intelligence forecasts that the global market for video games is expected to grow from $67 billion in 2012 to $82 billion in 2017."
...

"The Worldwide Market Forecasts for the Video Game and Interactive Entertainment Industry report notes that the industry has been flat to declining mainly because of declining sales in the console segment.

“New console systems from Nintendo, Microsoft and Sony are expected to help the console segment regain some momentum in the 2014 to 2015 timeframe,” said DFC Intelligence analyst David Cole. “However, the steadiest area of growth is on the PC and mobile side.”

PC game revenue continues to increase at a solid pace and is expected to pass $25 billion in 2017, up from about $20 billion forecasted for 2012."
http://www.forbes.com/sites...

So in 2012 game software sales on the PC alone generated nearly a third of the revenue of the entire games industry.
Muffins1223  +   495d ago
Mods FTW
AbortMission  +   495d ago
@starchild That's nice that PC has a bigger market. But it's not surprising. Most PC gamers play on pretty damn old machines or laptops, not high end Haswells, GTX 780s etc.

So, yeah. PC has a bigger market share but it's not from "PC elitists" with high end rigs. We're talking about Minecraft, WoW, and Facebook games
ThanatosDMC  +   495d ago
Steam Sale!
showtimefolks  +   495d ago
if its coming to PC than it has to come out on ps4/xbox one

means there vare some games i have to buy twice
PurpHerbison  +   495d ago
Not true.
showtimefolks  +   495d ago
Why not true porting from PC to ps4 takes less than 2 months so why won't it happen?

Also same thing for Xbox one

Whether PC gamers like it or not GTA is a console game and RS will always favor console gamers
MestreRothN4G  +   495d ago
Why?

Because porting costs money and the company getting the highest amount of money from PC gaming is TPB. :)

No, R* is not interested on a platform crowded with pirates.
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NarooN  +   495d ago
@MestreRoth

There was a picture posted not long ago from a game store that had PC cases for GTA V. It's more than obvious that a PC version will come in time, just like how the PC port of GTA IV came well after the console version released.

PC gamers will buy the shit out of GTA V.
clouds5  +   495d ago
GTA was always on pc since the first one in 1997. Just btw...
They will release it as they always did on pc , they wont release it on ps4 or xbox one cause they are not interested , gta 6 offcourse will be released on next gen! For now you can only wait to see the ps3/360 version and later pc
DeadlyFire  +   495d ago
Yeah its definitely coming to PS4/1box. Just give it a year at most before its out. :)
starchild  +   495d ago
It's a current gen game. It will come out on PC simply because all the GTA games have had PC releases. Rockstar just likes to stagger the PC releases.

By your logic every current gen game like Castlevania Lords of Shadow 2, Splinter Cell Blacklist, Bioshock Infinite, Batman Arkham Origins and so on, will all be getting next gen console releases. Which we all know won't happen. The focus for all of these games is current gen consoles and PC.

I'm not saying that it is impossible or that it definitely won't happen. I'm saying that it is illogical to assume that just because a multiplatform game is on the PC that it will also be on the PS4 and XB1.
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Corpser  +   495d ago
Same here, if reviews come out great (I have little doubt they will) I might have to play the console version in 720p and low frame rates.. PC/next gen versions would be so much better
yeahokchief  +   495d ago
@ Battleaxe Are you retarded?

you contradicted your first sentence with your second one. logic is hard for pc gamers. all those years of justifying all the money they throw away must take a heavy toll.
JsonHenry  +   495d ago
This was from an earnings call to investors, right? Not sure why so many people are acting like Nvidia is all butthurt here. PC sales typically dwarf that of consoles in sales. Especially now that NPD is FINALLY reporting on some Digital sales.

But that doesn't mean anything. The consoles still sell really well too.
cee773  +   495d ago
Yeah PC may generate the most revenue as A whole but not for rockstar games gtaIv sold over 10 mill each on Xbox and ps3 I can guarantee it didn't pass 10 mill or even 5 mill on PC physically the game sold under A million on PC who knows what it did digitally. Consoles generate more revenue for Rockstar its been this way for over A decade and I don't see it changing anytime soon lol.

http://www.vgchartz.com/gam...

http://www.vgchartz.com/gam...

http://www.vgchartz.com/gam...

GTA sell like crap on PC compared to consoles
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_-EDMIX-_  +   495d ago
@cee773. Da hell are you talking about? You nor I don't know exactly HOW MUCH was actually spent to make GTAIV for consoles and then the PC port. If the spent like 3 million on a port, they might be making PURE profit! Mind you PC doesn't have a license fee its a open platform. Stop mistaking units sold as profit.

"revenue" doesn't = "units sold" it equals PROFIT MADE! But you must know how much was spent to make and distribute it before you make such a claim. All we really know is that A the Port is cheaper and B the port is likely making full profit cause PC is open platform.
Seafort  +   495d ago
When Rockstar can be bothered to make a proper PC port it might sell well.

And retail sales for PC is a shit way to gauge how well it sold as most sales are digital now which isn't recorded.

Go ask Valve how many copies were sold on steam then you might get some proper sales figures instead of vgchartz lol
StoutBEER  +   495d ago
Xbox One has mod support right? Please someone with an understanding of mod tech tell me, is there even a REMOTE chance that mods for GTA V be on Xbox One/ Trouble in Terrorist Town????!!!!!>>>!! Answers appreciated!
_-EDMIX-_  +   495d ago
It clear PC will make a lot of money off of gaming just based on not having used games. Having MORE options and a lot of smaller titles. But I feel consoles now having PC style CPU's and easy indie support will start to take that away, but I do feel PC will still make the most in that regard.

and really...EVERYONE KNOWS GTAV will be on PC. This isn't news.
Evilsnuggle  +   495d ago
Revenue from hardware yes software sales no the master race must accept that game console make the world go around. The biggest sales are from game console not pc. Call of duty: anyone nvidia has a major case of butt hurt. All the game console have AMD CPU and GPU. This will also give AMD GPU a huge advantage in the future games developed for consoles. They will perform better on AMD GPU's Because both games PS4 and xbone have AMD GPU. This will lead to better optimization for AMD GPU.
doctorstrange  +   495d ago
That's a lot of revenue
JonnyBigBoss  +   495d ago
Big world, big revenue.
iMixMasTer872   495d ago | Spam
Smoovekid  +   495d ago
Ok Nvidia, there are already a ton GTA pre orders on both consoles.
Murad  +   495d ago
Dude, people for PC, like myself want it as well. I own a console and everything, but I rather have it for PC. Why? In the long run, I'll have more mods, and in general, it's some far more convenient for me. It's the same way for you in terms of consoles.
iMixMasTer872   495d ago | Spam
Hufandpuf  +   495d ago
I already know GTA5 is coming to PC. It has some of the most dedicated players on PC including awesome mods that I don't think Rockstar would shaft. Also I really think that ps3 gameplay they showed earlier was actually on PC. It looked too smooth with almost no screen tearing and fine tuned shadows. What game on the consoles has THAT smooth of shadows?
HammadTheBeast  +   495d ago
GTA V, Last of Us, UC2/3, Killzone?
NiteX  +   495d ago
Look again, shadows are pretty awful on those games.
Campy da Camper  +   495d ago
Gotta go with huff. When I watch the "ps3" trailer for GTA I was like there is no way that is current gen consoles. I loved the last of us and it looked great but that GTA demo was a whole other level. There was not one jaggie, and every line, on every building was crisp and clean.
cunnilumpkin  +   495d ago
all those games look 10 years old on consoles

covered in jaggies

agitated shadows,

pop-in

sub-hd

have not seen a pc game that looks as bad as last of us since 2004
Murad  +   495d ago
You must be blind. The Last of Us does not nearly look as good.
Ragthorn  +   495d ago
Srry HammadTheBeast, Those games don't have those kind of visuals lol. Console DOES not have the power to have as smooth shadows as shown in the gameplay trailer as to what Hufandpuf said.
NarooN  +   495d ago
I saw the gameplay...think you guys might be blowing it out of proportion. It's easy to smooth out jaggies and such when you apply blur filters over it all.

And GTA V looks nice, definitely better than GTA IV, but it's similar to Max Payne 3 (which looked awesome) since it's basically the same engine. If you think it's PC, look closer at the textures. They're not amazingly detailed and many are pretty low-res. This won't really matter at all for anyone who is used to GTA, especially the older PS2 titles which definitely weren't known for having the best visuals out there.

Also, disagree about Last of Us & KZ not having good shadows. I played through KZ2 & 3, Uncharted 2 & 3, and watched my friend play TLOU. All of these games have pretty decent shadows. Killzone has some of the finest visuals on the system, period.

As for GTA V, if it were PC gameplay, there would've been higher-res textures, more characters and vehicles, farther draw distance, etc.
WeAreLegion  +   495d ago
God of War III. Very smooth shadows.
DoctorJones  +   495d ago
Very linear game, just isn't in the same ball park at all when there's a hell of a lot more going on in GTA.
papashango  +   495d ago
please don't cite one of the most linear button mashers as a source for good shadows. You can't even control the camera angles.
WeAreLegion  +   495d ago
I was asked for good shadows. I told you a game that had good shadows.

Don't be complete dicks about it.
pixelsword  +   495d ago
When the game comes out, we'll know; so there's no need to talk too much about it before all available information is out.

People did rightly complain about Killzone 2's trailer being fake, granted: but when the game came out, it exceeded the trailer in every way, so it's possible that GTA might have good shadows on consoles... and it's not like every game that ever came out on the PC will have perfect shadows, because each PC is different and will correspond to a game and it's settings differently.

OT:

By them commenting on everything like a rabid fanboy, Nvidia's just making it all the more obvious that they priced themselves out of the market, cheating people all the way down (saying they couldn't do something when they knew they could) and causing a rift that may never be repaired between themselves and console makers.
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Ragthorn  +   495d ago
But you have to know that were talking about a HUGE open-world game that has no loading screens between areas, whereas God of War 3 has very linear style of play. Simple logic really.
extermin8or  +   495d ago
Woah @Murad- you need glasses if you think the last of us looks bad. It was only back in 2009 that uncharted 2 was better looking than pretty much any other game and was released on old hardware.

@cunnilumpkin some of those issues you mention are a)only noticeable if your playing with a bloody magnifying glass infront of your eye and b) are limitations there since the consoles launch. oh and c) don't detract from the game at all in anyway.

@Hufandpuf and @NiteX - if shadows are worth extra hundereds of $ on better gaming hardware with very little other improvements then you need to go re-evaluate your lives and what that money could have otherwise been spent on. Otherwise I do agree that there is no way the GTA5 footage is current gen. In the same way when Watch_Dogs was announced there's no way that was current gen and I don't believe Kojima when he says MS E3 confrence MGS5 trailer was ps3 footage.....
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gapecanpie  +   495d ago
I use to think UC3 was a master piece but after I seen my brother gaming pc I understood why PC fans laugh at console fanboys when they argue about gfx as there is no comparison to PC ... UC3 looks like dog c*ap compared to what I seen on PC.
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Corpser  +   495d ago
You'll think Last of us looks bad too once you're used to next gen graphics
Ragthorn  +   495d ago
@Corpser
It has already begun on PC (Nvidia GTX 700 series) lol!
The_Infected  +   495d ago
Let the Developer say that and I'll believe it but I want believe you Nvidia since you're mad you didn't get your graphics in either of the next gen consoles.
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Roccetarius  +   495d ago
I really doubt Nvidia is mad, since they're getting a major piece of a pie already. :)
Xsilvermist  +   495d ago
all new consoles are using AMD so u know nvidia are losing some profits and keep saying bad stuff about the new consoles and AMD enjoying its time in the spotlight.
ginsunuva  +   495d ago
Consoles hardware doesn't make money anyway. They sell as losses to make up with software. AMD is making a tiny piece of revenue from consoles.
Murad  +   495d ago
@Xsilvermist
You are so wrong on so many levels. Sure they got a contract with two top companies, but right now, Nvidia which is owned by Intel is owning not only the CPU market, but also the GPU market in a manner of speaking. AMD on the other hand made a 5.0 ghz GPU that cost 1,000 grand, and it still can't beat the i7. AMD might be liking the spotlight, but watch how the spotlight is taken off when the consoles are released and people will already be fussing about things continuously.ESPECIALLY HOW HOT AMD STUFF RUNS
slaya99  +   495d ago
@Murad
I agree intel is better than AMD, but your comment "Nvidia which is owned by Intel", is the most hilarious thing I have heard. HAHA Nvidia is NOT owned by Intel, they operate completely serperately
extermin8or  +   495d ago
@slaya99-that's not the funniest part of his post he compares a 5GHZ GPU yes GPU to an I7's perfomance and claims the GPU has lower performance *facepalm* they are totally different chips. In terms of the gaming the GPU will likely if programmed for correctly outperform an I7 CPU everytime.... The 5GHZ GPU would be in competition with Titan etc. And although Titan's performance was slightly better it was also a few $100 more expensive....
papashango  +   495d ago
He's actually not talking about a 5ghz GPU though I agree his hardware knowledge is showing.

He's talking about the FX9590 which is the first ever 5ghz CPU to be marketed.

on topic. Nvidia stands to make no profit from investing in a console and they will not lose from it. AMD on the other hand needs to impress its shareholders since they've been struggling since Intel released Conroe.

This is really the best decision made for both companies. It keeps AMD in the game and Nvidia gets to invest in R&D and PC Gamers get to reap the rewards of better tech.
SammmualDodgeball  +   495d ago
lol... did you notice how the graphic for games evolved from the beginning of PS3/XB360 till now? right now, console games graphic are nothing compared to current PC graphic. with next gen coming soon, in about a couple of years everything will be improved so much and much more quicker on PC that Nvidia will be top dog. successful companies think of the future and long term improvement.
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The_Infected  +   495d ago
Graphics are only a part of the experience. There's gameplay, story, art, etc. Most PC gamers will never realize that though it seems. Don't get me wrong I really like graphics but I'm putting it over everything else.
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NarooN  +   495d ago
I love how PC elitists only ever talk about graphics. I've been PC gaming for many years, and graphics is only a small part of the experience. I remember how in the 90's, a GPU that would run games with playable framerates which supported hardware acceleration would cost you a lot. It's not like today where you can buy a sub-$150 GPU and play just about every game at 1080p with great framerates.

It was routine to turn down graphics settings and disable things, but no one really cared because the gameplay and story was usually awesome. Nowadays, the only thing elitists talk about is graphics...

Yeah, I love great graphics, and I routinely download mods to enhance the experience. But I'm not gonna go crazy over a game that has beast graphics and shit gameplay. Like Crysis. It's basically an over-hyped, over-glorified tech demo. I'd say it would be good as a benchmark, but it also has a terribly-optimized engine as well, lol.

Point is, if being "top dog" is about having the best graphics to you, I think you're missing the point.
SammmualDodgeball  +   495d ago
@NarooN
what in the world...? we're talking about graphic card companies... no crap we're going to talk about graphics... sure, gameplay may play a big part but be real, how can you enjoy a game when the resources it requires are advanced. like i said, i'm talking about in the future, everything will be improved and advanced. we're not going to sit here and have source engine games now are we? seriously, think about it. it's not "pc elitists who ever talks about graphics", it's a fact that graphics will be a huge part in the future because of these companies. and don't get me wrong, when i said top dog, i meant nvidia will be making more money than amd because nvidia is always a step ahead of amd. it's a fact.
Murad  +   495d ago
Dude, some people like NarooN are ignorant. Just let it go, and take off a bubble for being ignorant and a troll.
NarooN  +   495d ago
"Some people like NarooN are ignorant"

LOLWAT? You don't know shit about me. You misinterpret my comment due to your own ineptitude, and you then you talk down on ME? Lol, okay.

As for Dodgeball, you opened your comment talking about "games evolving" and talking about the graphics from the current-gen consoles to present-day PC. I fail to see how my comment was irrelevant. Visuals haven't been advancing at a quick rate for quite some time now. The tech isn't advancing super-fast like it was in earlier years. Visuals aren't gonna be too mind-blowing in a few years. Marginally better, but nothing crazy. We'll be getting better GPU power, which hardly any games will truly stress too much besides crappy ones like Crysis.

As for Nvidia always being a "step ahead" of AMD/ATi, that's not even remotely true right now. They've been trading blows for many years now, AMD releases a card and it becomes the best performer, Nvidia releases their next flagship card and it's on top, AMD releases their next and its on top, etc. Nvidia might have a greater market share, but that's about it.
SammmualDodgeball  +   495d ago
@NarooN
i was using "games evolving" as an example to prove a point. point being that nvidia aren't "mad" because their cards isn't going to be used for next gen consoles but instead, they will suppress amd. knowing that the newer nvidia cards are being use for pc and not consoles, i made a comparison with current-gen to today. an example would be from TES:Oblivion graphic to TES: Skyrim graphic. there's no doubt the same thing will happen. you're talking about the present while i'm talking about the future. successful companies prepare for the future. that's why nvidia is always a step ahead. amd may come out with good cards but there's always flaws which it cannot beat nvidia.
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hiredhelp  +   495d ago
@NarooN
I love how PC elitists only ever talk about graphics.

Firstly If "Enthusiast" Choose to put in money into there systems and pay anything betwen £120-£500 They have every right to want there graphics while tryin to get best performance.
Oh btw for a supposid longterm gamer you sound rather ignorant towords PC Gamers.

Also look up Elitists nice to know we look up to as such a high standard lol.
Heres a thought if graphics was not important even to console gamers witch ive been since the atari days then WTF do we spend hundreds on next gen consoles too.
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NarooN  +   495d ago
@Dodgeball: Now I see your point and I agree. I apologize for my earlier aggressions.

@Hiredhelp: You seem to think I was implying that graphics aren't important *at all*. That's not what I think, far from it. For me, I try to balance performance/visuals. For single-player, I'm perfectly okay with 30fps consistently while pumping the visuals up. For multiplayer, I don't care if the game looks like Quake 3, I just need 60fps minimum if it's a shooter or anything competitive like that (besides racers).

I also don't see why you put enthusiast in quotes, because I never said that. Enthusiasts doesn't even necessarily mean people who only buy parts that cost $1000. A lot of enthusiasts deliberately purchase budget equipment to see how far they can take it, for example.

Once again it's just you looking at my comment and not even having decent reading comprehension. I never said anything about normal PC gamers or enthusiasts doing anything wrong. I misinterpreted Dodgeball's post, he clarified, it's done.
Ragthorn  +   495d ago
@NarooN
Also Crysis 1 was actually good, the rest were decent at best. And just like what SammmualDodgeball said were talking about graphics card companies.
webeblazing  +   495d ago
idk know since the new consoles been announced it seems like console gamer been mainly talking about gfx. and pc gamers support more indy games than any platform
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Murad  +   495d ago
Dude, a majority of the cards that are bought for PC are EVGA.
SIRHC13  +   495d ago
I'm hoping for a release sooner than nine months, but we all know that's not going to happen.
JonnyBigBoss  +   495d ago
If you look at the timeline for previous GTA titles, we shouldn't be waiting too long. I'm going to say April 2014.

Nice avatar, by the way.
SIRHC13  +   495d ago
Tread lightly.
Gorilla_Killa_X  +   495d ago
I don't know about that. Almost all GTAs have released in October. Except for GTA IV, if I'm not mistaken, since they like to release a couple months before the holidays. But you never know since almost all Rockstar games have released around May this generation.
KillrateOmega  +   495d ago
I'll wait until the developers say this themselves and THEN I'll start salivating at the modding possibilities :)
Deividas  +   495d ago
Im excited about this :) Now i will own it on Xbox 360, PC and PS4 when it comes out for next gen, cause come on, we know it will happen.
dbjj12088  +   495d ago
Definitely gonna get it on PC, but I won't be able to wait so PS3 version here I come.
JackBNimble  +   495d ago
Same here, ps3 first and if and when it comes to pc then hell yah.
dreamoner  +   495d ago
And that's Rockstar's business plan for GTA games.
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TheGreatGamer  +   495d ago
Total BS from Nvidia don't get me wrong i agree high end pc gaming is a level above the consoles but i mean with the piracy issues etc. there's no way the pc version will generate more revenue that's just the most ridiculous thing ever. GTA for 360 and ps3 is pretty much topping pre-order charts even among ps4 and xbox one so to even have the audacity to say pc version will sell more than one of the console versions is completely absurd
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sorane  +   495d ago
They said pc gaming makes more not just gta. They are 100% correct in that statement it makes WAY more than both 360/ps3 combined.....
Gorilla_Killa_X  +   495d ago
PC game sales havent caught up to console game sales. PC game sales may be a little more than PS3/Xbox360 game sales but definately not way more.
sorane  +   495d ago
^^ you should look up the numbers then if you don't think so, because I have and it is WAY more.....
extermin8or  +   495d ago
Pc games sell a fair bit cheaper... more sales due to a steam discount etc does not mean that companies are making more money from it... They'd have to sell 1/4 more than the consoles just at their launch to make more money as atm usually PC games start at £30 and console games at £40.
papashango  +   495d ago
Uhhh EA themselves said during their earnings report a year ago that they make more off PC than PS3.

"Xbox 360 led the pack, bringing EA $292 million in the past three months. That compared favorably to the PS3 which did $267 million for the firm. But the PC platform actually managed to outperform Sony's console with $276 million." 2012

Now here in 2013

"A posted earnings for the first quarter of its 2014 fiscal year. (The quarter ended on June 30.) EA's numbers include a breakdown of revenue per gaming platform, and they show that the company's net revenue from PC gaming actually rose by 8% compared to the same quarter last year. Not only that, but at $298 million, EA's PC revenue was higher than its Xbox 360 revenue ($256 million) or its PlayStation 3 revenue ($238 million)."

Meaning that in one year PC went from EA's #2 revenue maker to their #1.

PS3 has been last for who knows how long. Now This is EA we're talking about. The same company where most PC gamers origin accounts consist of only BF3 and that's it. Just imagine how much they'd make if they put their games back on Steam. I personally don't buy games off Origin.

Now if Rockstar can't make money off the pc crowd than that's pretty sad.
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webeblazing  +   495d ago
yall do realize there is a lot of games that dont even make it to consoles right or do yall still believe consoles have more exclusives. when companies say this most people say this people think only of big budget games which is dumb
TheGreatGamer  +   495d ago
Don't get me wrong i have bought a fair share of pc games but what i'm saying is with all the piracy issues etc. Rockstar will make more money with the console versions
aliengmr  +   495d ago
Nothing to do with piracy at all.
AzureskyZ  +   495d ago
Hate to say it but its obvious nvidia is bitter-- the margin on pc is definitely better but in no way the pc's volume of sales is even remotely close to those of the console's. If last games is any indication consoles alone will probably clear 17-20 million copies, pc will probably clear anywhere from 1-3 and thats high balling it. PC will be the superior version no doubt and with the mod implement it would definitely be the version to watch out for, but coming from nvidia it seems they are just bitter and alittle bit juvenile-- total revenue and gross goes to consoles in sheer volume-- margin per game goes to pc.
AznGaara  +   495d ago
That's not fair. Most site that "track sales" like NPD or VZCharts don't include digital sales which are almost all the purchases on PC. Also, Nvidia bitter? Get real. He never said "GTAV is coming to PCs with only Nvidia cards" no he said PCs in general meaning AMD too.
AzureskyZ  +   495d ago
Nvidia lost contracts to both MS after xbox 1 and sony ps3-- they have been talking trash about consoles non stop since then-- ever since feb annoucement of ps4-- look it up-- naturally they would promote pc even if it entails amd cause its there only source of business besides tegra and grid, which is more tailored to handhelds and clouding. Even accounting Digital sells how many do you think it really sells? Piracy on pc will be available in couple of weeks-- steams sells may shine for awhile but it will never come close to the volume of console sells-- both consoles offer digital day one release btw. I think you are misunderstanding here-- im not saying that pc arent profitable cause the margin is much better on pc-- but revenue is by volume of sales-- and pc dont win in this regard because the sales will be lower than the consoles-- only a handful of games does PC actually exceeds its console counter part--- let me put it this way if pc sells was as high as nvidia is saying, pc version would be the version they not only promote the most, it might be the only version that comes out because of its profitability-- and the cost to bring it out on ps3 or xbox wouldnt be justifiable based on royalties etc they have to pay to console makers. Personally i prefer nvidia graphics card over amd because of driver support-- but i still think they are immature as a company.
extermin8or  +   495d ago
Most of the digital sales are bought at discount prices... so they don't make them as much money... I'd bet my right hand on it.
DoctorJones  +   495d ago
@extermin8or

They may be sold at discount prices but they sell higher volumes when they are discounted. It's a long game in many respects with pc gaming, they may sell for cheaper, such as in the Steam sales, but they can earn money on a game over a much longer period of time.

With console games, after a few months a lot more people buy second hand which gives them no money at all. They sell digitally on consoles as well, but a publisher earns mostly on retail with console games.

With pc it's mostly digital and they can rely on a more constant source of revenue.
TrollCraftTales  +   495d ago
I think it will come out on both PC and Next Gen, Rockstar would be making a huge mistake if they don't... Also there is a bit of evidence for Next Gen/PC versions, and if it comes out on PC, it will on Next Gen, and visa versa, consoles have x86 now so it would be a no brainer to port it over..
claud3  +   495d ago
GTA V for the P.C and GTA online for P.C will be out around FEB or April 2014 and then the modders can have a field day with this game
AznGaara  +   495d ago
"With how much time and money has been invested into GTA 5's development, it would make no sense to not cash in on the large group of PC gamers"

This applies to all next gen games really. Look at FF15, MGSV and Kingdom Hearts 3. Heck even SNK just announced a "KoF13 Steam Edition" it's just ludicrous to ignore the PC space.
extermin8or  +   495d ago
MGS5 and KH3 aren't Pc confirmed-I don't know about FF15...
AznGaara  +   495d ago
Kojima "Of course we are developing on a PC so we look forward to releasing something on the PC some time" from shacknews

Nomura "Yes, Correct, but again DirectX 11 is the tool that we’re using and whichever hardware which has a compatibility with that tool, we can keep it consideration." from dualshockers

Yes they're not fully confirmed but its pretty evident that they're eventually going to make their way to PC. The whole selling point of a the next-gen consoles is that they're using PC parts so porting throughout the 3 platforms would be easier. Sorry I tried to provide links but according to N4G my "Comment looks like spam" -_-
jbwoolley  +   495d ago
This is one of the most awaited games, and a lot of those excited gamers is me. If the release is by next year, well...that would be long wait. Want the PC version.
Broburger  +   495d ago
Next gen is going to kick ass.
GraveLord  +   495d ago
If you count MMOs and stuff, yeah, not surprising.
JohnS1313  +   495d ago
More crap from the big mouths at Nvidia. What a bunch of idiots.
i8urCAKE  +   495d ago
"PC Revenue More Than PlayStation and Xbox Combined" for GTAV ? i don't think so. Most people play GTA on consoles. AND if it was released on PC, 99% of pc gamers will just torrent it like they do with most games. Bitch please
sorane  +   495d ago
You should learn to read better.
mediate-this  +   495d ago
you should read the article and not just go off the title
i8urCAKE  +   495d ago
I'm just talking about the revenue for GTAV
Are_The_MaDNess  +   494d ago
hmmmm how do you know that 99% of PC games torrent their games?
havent Torrented a game in years, and when i did i always brought it on steam again.
most of the people i know buy their games on steam and such. games are cheaper nowadays on pc so i really see no reason not to buy games anymore. atleast on PC.
pre-order a game for 40-50 euros and get bonus games and in game items witch you can sell again for even more games if you want. steam is a good system.
i cant see myself ever torrenting a game ever again, unless i cant buy it at all or is not in my country.
steamcommunity.com/id/AreTheM aDNess/

(link broken, just remove the space beween the M and a. N4G think its spam......sigh)
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i8urCAKE  +   494d ago
Well that's just you but alot of people just torrent. I know someone who bought a 1200$ gaming PC and he torrents ALL his games.
maniac76  +   495d ago
He ment pc games are more cheaper and pirated easier more so than ps4 and xbox one lmao
skywarp00  +   495d ago
def excited for pc release. seems to be the one game u wont wanna leave the house for.
claud3  +   495d ago
This and modders on the P.C, will make this game insane and add so much new content

R* we love you
SonyPS4  +   495d ago
Lots of jealous console-only gamers in here.
JackBNimble  +   495d ago
I don't understand... jealous of what?

Console gamers are getting GTA V in a month, maybe it's pc gamers who are jealous.
I will be more then happy to buy it for ps3, I just can't wait for the pc release, but I will buy it for pc when it comes out.
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ZBlacktt  +   495d ago
No, not even once.... like anyone cares. There are SO many great games coming out. Even this one to the consoles. But everyone will have moved on to the next Gen consoles already anyway. That is why the sells on console will be more down then anything. They goofed and only supported last gen. Sorry, but no..... I'll be over here on next Gen playing AC4, Watch Dogs, Killzone, Infamous SS, etc, etc.... BF4, etc.
webeblazing  +   495d ago
and you know you know who else will be playin most of those games without buying a new system or upgrading.
ZBlacktt  +   495d ago
You know I have PC's also. Not a big deal at all. next. I was PC gaming on the Apple II, IIe and IIc in 1982. That's before 97% of this whole site. So I never get wrapped up in this PC/Console crap. That's all you guys. Just saying the next Gen consoles are coming and this game is not on them. So many gamers are going to be on the new/better consoles already.
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fsfsxii  +   495d ago
And probably the piracy is double the consoles combined.
cunnilumpkin  +   495d ago
yet still makes way more money than ps3 and xbox360 combined

and next, ps4 and xbox1 will NEVER sell close to what ps3/xbox360 did

EVER
stuna1  +   495d ago
Hey we have a guy with a crystal ball here!!!

They stand to sell even more! Sure some might take the economy into consideration, but the PS4 is also $200 cheaper than it was last generation. And both have much more to offer than their predecessors. The facts are plain, not everyone games on PC's! And because of that there's no love lost.
fsfsxii  +   495d ago
Hey, could you lend me your secret black magic powaz??! I really wanna see the future and my future wife. I'm being srs
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Underworld  +   495d ago
And how much of that is generated from crap like FarmVille and MMOs? A lot.
papashango  +   495d ago
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Xristo  +   495d ago
I love how N4G users here justify their ignorance by making comments such as, "No way GTA sells more on PC than consoles combined!" Learn to read! If you READ the article; that means actually click the link. He NEVER said that. I won't quote him because you have already proven to me that you do NOT know how to read. Why should I think you can now?

On topic: Hopefully this is true signs that GTAV is on its way to the PC. I'm sure that will be some time early-mid next year but that will be just in time for either a new 880 or an equivalent AMD GPU. My upgrade is due. :)
claud3  +   495d ago
Remember i told you so guys... This is a fiscal year coming and Take-two have their talk over how to make more money

And the easy answer P.C and Next gen versions Next year

So keep that in mind, while i smile and enjoy the thank you from everyone
DVAcme  +   495d ago
"PC Revenue More Than PlayStation and Xbox Combined"

Pffft, no.
GraveLord  +   495d ago
They're including PC Gaming a whole. That incluces MMOs like World of Warcraft and even free to play games like League of Legends.

So yeah, it is possible PC revenue is more than Xbox and Playstation combined, but then again Nvidia doesn't have access to PSN and XBL sales which shouldn't be ignored. They're probably only counting retail...

Nvidia needs to get off hits high-horse console bashing attitude.
DVAcme  +   494d ago
I can see that, yes, PC revenue as a whole generates more profit, but that profit is split between so many entities that the individual profit is IMPOSSIBLE to be higher for each company than what they make on console, unless that company has PC gaming as its only revenue(like, surprise surprise, NVidia). As for individual games, the cost-prohibitive and work-intensive nature on the consumer side of PC gaming for optimum performance makes console gaming a very attractive option these days, and the rampant piracy on the PC side means that companies have a safer earnings margin by going the console route over PC. The reason GTA5 is coming exclusively to console at launch is that piracy would wreck its launch on PC. Rockstar wants to ensure maximum profit for their investment, and console's the way to go there.

As for NVidia talking all that crap, it's green grapes over AMD scoring making the hardware for BOTH next gen consoles. They have to trumpet PC gaming cause that's all they've got. If NVidia REALLY were willing to put their money where their mouth is, they'd throw their own console into the mix.
TronEOL  +   495d ago
If this game only comes out on PC, PS3 and Xbox360, I'll be buying it on PC. I'm done with this generation once the PS4 comes out, and I won't be buying GTAV as long as it only exists on the PS3/X360.
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evilhasitsway  +   495d ago
all true
sarcastoid  +   495d ago
If cliffy b manifested himself into a company, it would be called nvidia. bash whatever it is that you're not currently involved with, praise what you are involved with.
cunnilumpkin  +   495d ago
they are not bashing anything

people keep asking them questions about next gen consoels because they think NVidia care

NVidia makes a far better product than amd, has higher stock prices, sells WAY more chips and makes FAR more money than amd ever will

same with intel

NVidia just answers honestly, saying the "next gen" consoles are not even on par with a high end gpu from 3 years ago

its just the truth

they have cheap cpu's that max out at 1.6 ghz like a TABLET and crappy amd laptop gpus

they are NOT powerful at all, they are a big step up from the 8 year old relics that are ps3/360 sure, but they will not even manage a game like bf3 in 1920x1080 native at very high settings at 30 frames, let alone ultra

NVidia stock is worth almost $15 a share
AMD is $3

Nvidia are not upset at all, they were asked FIRST to be in the ps4, they gave a price, sony said no and counter offered, NVidia told them to eat a di@k

end of story
sarcastoid  +   495d ago
if PC was in such great shape... where are the exclusives aside from indie games? Why aren't they selling more than a fraction of what console versions sell? Seems to me like Nvidia's full of themselves, had to big of an ego to accept sony's offer and now are trying to shit all over consoles as if PC gaming's graphics are ALL that matter. We'll see where those stocks are in a couple years.
sorane  +   495d ago
^^^

Civ 5, the warcraft series, the starcraft series etc etc etc are all indie games now you're saying. I guess you have to be a generic shooter and/or generic tomb raider clone to be considered aaa now....
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starchild  +   495d ago
@misterzadir

Such ignorance. There are many big budget exclusives on the PC. And they generally sell quite well. Diablo 3 sold something over 12 million copies. And lots of other PC games sell in the multiple millions range.

Overall there are many more exclusives on the PC than any console. And this is an amazing fact because the main reason the consoles get exclusives is because Sony and Microsoft pay huge amounts of money to buy up studios or to pay studios to make games exclusively for their platform.

The PC doesn't have a platform holder spending money to make games exclusive to the platform and yet it still has more developers making games for the platform than for any console.

http://blogs.nvidia.com/wp-...

http://www.gamasutra.com/vi...
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webeblazing  +   495d ago
posting pc exclusive will take forever that y no one does it. your tell me to post all past and future exclusives. future excluses alone it too much work.

idiot
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