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Submitted by MrBT 597d ago | opinion piece

My Sentiments Exactly: Sci-Final Fantasy XV

Charlie of Xboxer360 writes, "So one of the things I’ve yet to really touch on from E3 is the response to Final Fantasy XV; I’ve seen some pretty interesting arguments from both sides – those that dislike the changes to the franchise and those that like the changes – so I figured I’d throw in my two cents on the matter. Before I begin in full, I’ll just throw out there that I’ve been a long-time fan of the Final Fantasy series having started playing them at around 7 years old; they’ve been a staple brand in my diet of games and one I’ve returned to frequently.

The first big outcry I’ve seen is towards the setting, people saying it doesn’t qualify as kosher Final Fantasy because it’s too dystopian future set. To these people, I am utterly perplexed about the misconceived notions they seem to have of the franchise; while Fantasy might be a touch of a misnomer, the sci-fi setting is very much true to both the brand and a large chunk of the core audience. In fact, technology and its integration with society have always been a big part of the Final Fantasy world – whether they’re using it to deliver some sort of underlying message or whether it’s just a narrative build I couldn’t tell you." (Final Fantasy XV, PS4, Xbox One)

kalkano  +   597d ago
I haven't heard anyone making the first two arguments...I don't understand those, either.

"What we have seen is an evolution in the combat system over time, something that many Kingdom Hearts fans have grown to adore (particularly in later entries such as Dream Drop Distance). They have a fully functional and engaging combat system sitting right under their noses; if that combat system works then why reinvent the wheel?"

I find Kingdom Hearts' battle system (yes, the current version) to be fairly mindless, and boring. It's button-mashing. I don't want that in my Final Fantasy.

"But as we’ve seen from the Call of Duty naming fiasco (where it was only named Modern Warfare and people didn’t know it was Call of Duty in focus tests) Square know they could lose millions just by changing that title. If they feel they’ve put together an experience worthy of that mantle, then we should have good faith until it’s released – that’s the point we get to moan and rip it apart for terrible clichés. Have a little fayth, and keep some Hope – those are my sentiments exactly."

But that's the problem. It's milking, plain and simple. Just slap the name "Final Fantasy" on every game. Who cares if it actually has anything to do with Final Fantasy (which XV most certainly does not). PROFIT! I'm done "having a little faith". I've been doing that for 12 years. I'm sick of it. I have no faith in SE, anymore. And, what they're showing me (XV) is doing nothing to restore that faith.
EdoubleD  +   597d ago
Please....stop it.
Your apprehension towards XV only has to do with what resulted under XIII.
You would have said nothing if the name was still Versus.
The only thing untraditional about XV is it's battle system. That is all.
kalkano  +   597d ago
lol! The ONLY thing untraditional about the game...is the gameplay. The thing you do throughout most of the game.../facepalm.

My apprehension really has nothing to do with 13, but everything to do with 15.

"Please...stop it."

No.
wishingW3L  +   597d ago
who knows what's traditional or not about FFXV... The only thing sure and confirmed by Nomura is that it will have "traditional elements" from the old games, and those are stuff like: a world map and airships. But to say that the only untraditional thing in the game is the combat is just a premature conclusion from your part.
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KonsoruMasuta  +   597d ago
You do realize this is not the first FF game to change the battle system, right? Obviously you must not be that big of a fan.

It's apparent you have never played Crisis Core or Tactics (Both loved by gamers and critics). As I said before to someone else, FF is defined by more than it battle system.

It's best to judge it when we get more details.
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wishingW3L  +   597d ago
those are spin offs.
kalkano  +   597d ago
It is the first one to change genres.

Crisis Core and Tactics were not main entries in the series. They were spinoffs. And, I was not a big fan of Crisis Core's battle system.
KonsoruMasuta  +   597d ago
So what if they were spin offs. They were still Final Fantasy games and they did not follow the formula of other games with the name.
EdoubleD  +   597d ago
I won't argue with you any longer, considering you're out there being bitter because FF has a real-time battle system.
Just quit and enjoy other JRPG series, since this won't be the series you, me and other FF fans have come to experience in the 'old days'. If FFXVI will bring back a turn based battle system similar to X's then that is what I truly desire. In the meantime, I have this to look forward to.

Only reason I'm keeping up with FFXV is because I have some faith in Tetsuya's team. They have been working on this for a long time. I'm willing to wait until this game is reviewed fairly.

EDIT: A disagree before the comment is read....OK.
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WhateverBlah  +   597d ago
"I find Kingdom Hearts' battle system (yes, the current version) to be fairly mindless, and boring. It's button-mashing. I don't want that in my Final Fantasy."

"But that's the problem. It's milking, plain and simple. Just slap the name "Final Fantasy" on every game. Who cares if it actually has anything to do with Final Fantasy (which XV most certainly does not). PROFIT! I'm done "having a little faith". I've been doing that for 12 years. I'm sick of it. I have no faith in SE, anymore. And, what they're showing me (XV) is doing nothing to restore that faith. "

+1

I feel exactly like u & I am sure we r not the only ones out there.
LordNikon  +   597d ago
If you don't like the battle system, then don't get the game. Simples. All you seem to be doing is wasting your time by throwing hyperbolic punches at Square-Enix every chance you get, instead of actually giving a pensive and fair opinion. And don't act as if you actually KNOW exactly how FFXV is when you haven't even played the damn game. Jeez...
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kalkano  +   596d ago
"If you don't like the battle system, then don't get the game."

I'm not going to.

"All you seem to be doing is wasting your time by throwing hyperbolic punches at Square-Enix every chance you get, instead of actually giving a pensive and fair opinion."

Why is my opinion not fair? I have every right to voice my displeasure. And, I think there's a bigger chance of change occurring when people voice their displeasure, than when they stay silent.
LordNikon  +   596d ago
"I'm not going to."

Good for you then.

"Why is my opinion not fair? I have every right to voice my
displeasure. And, I think there's a bigger chance of change
occurring when people voice their displeasure, than when they
stay silent."

An opinion that ONLY displays displeasure and premature judgements, is not a FAIR opinion. And no, you don't have the right to voice your displeasure. That's just immature. You do however have the right to voice your opinion, to give constructive criticism.
EdoubleD  +   597d ago
Could you kindly let me know what is so bad about 15?
I haven't heard much of the complaints apart from the battle system itself, or what was shown of it.
Maybe if I could grasp why? Would it have been better off as a spin off?
I am being serious by the way, I just want to know.
kalkano  +   596d ago
Yes, the battle system is my only problem with it, now that it's a main entry in the series. If it was still Versus XIII, I may have given it a chance. My problem is, this marks a change in genre for the entire series. I had hoped that Final Fantasy would show the industry that you can still do turn-based RPGs, and then they crapped all over that idea.

And, I don't care how much they say, "we may revisit turn-based games for future entries". I'm not stupid. They're never going back, for main entries. The most we can hope for is dinky little handheld/iOS entries. Not interested.
JackVagina  +   596d ago
@kalkano

"I'm not stupid, there never going back"

lolwtf?

thank god you've ran out of bubbles you moron
Lewb33zy  +   588d ago
My god you're such a hypercritical, cynical, whiny bitch. Let me guess, it has to be turn based to be Final Fantasy?
studeyo69  +   597d ago
I've liked the evolution of the final fantasies. If you don't like the games don't buy/play them...that simple. So long as people keep buying they will keep making. And to the author I agree in some respects final fantasy has always had some futuristic undertones (heck in 4 you rode a lunar whale to the moon) but I am still a big fan of traditional play (final fantasy dimensions was FANtastic IMO) but I rather like the evolution to action RPG. 12 was a shakey combat system but it was a first stab at it and I enjoyed it(the summons in 12 are what bothered me). As far as character design better graphics means more detail, if the artist favors a certain style I couldn't care to be bothered so long as there's good gameplay. I think they know this game is a 4th quarter hail Mary. They need a win here and I am hoping for one. I was bummed with the linearity of 13 and 13-2 just didn't leave me satisfied (kinda wish it was a sequel in the sense of same characters and a direct continuation of story) but a lot of ppl liked it so to each their own. I for one have hope indeed, and hope this is the one that reestablishes them as an RPG giant
Hicken  +   596d ago
I've not had a problem with any of the FF games I've played, from a gameplay standpoint. Or a battle system standpoint. I've had varying amounts of enjoyment from each of them, with some having better characters or music than others, and some having better stories than others.

Frankly, I don't get it.

There's this perception of what an FF SHOULD be; oddly enough, many FFs lack what people say are staples. And there seems to be a limit to how much Square-Enix can change before it's too much, which is weird, because people want new games, but they want them just like the old ones. But I'm 100% certain they'd complain if XV was like VII.

Hell, they keep clamoring for a remake to VII, and don't even realize they would never be satisfied. They would forever be comparing the remake to the original, and complaining about how it doesn't measure up.

Square-Enix- and, more specifically, Final Fantasy- has become a victim of its own success.
elda  +   594d ago
Totally agree.
MoneyMeng  +   596d ago
All you little babies just need to stfu and let them make the game! I'm tired of hearing all of you cry about how the combat should be like it used to be, complaining on how 15 will have real time combat! Damn idiots, if you didn't notice, FF13 played like the originals and it was fucking horrible! JRPGs are dying genre and it's because they lack innovation and evolution! They may still have decent and at times, memorable stories but their gameplay just doesn't add up. The majority of turn based jrpgs nowadays are bland and boring with only a very few that deliver. Still Jrpgs like FF need to convert their combat to a more real time based combat system or a more complex turn based combat if they want to survive. Nobody wants just press up ,down, and "x" throughout a whole game anymore! (FF13)
Oneirous  +   596d ago
BUT FFXIII was more sci-fi than anything other installment.

Isn't FFXV "a fantasy based on a reality"... modern times?
noctis_lumia  +   596d ago
yes it is but haters gonna hate
elda  +   594d ago
FF7,8,10,13 were all sci-fi based games.
noctis_lumia  +   596d ago
this game will kick @ss either u like it or not
nomura is behind this masterpiece along the team who did Kingdom hearts games and advent children movie

day one nuff said

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