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Microsoft Just Killed Xbox Live Family Packs

Steve: As of August 27th, those of you with Xbox Live Family Pack accounts will have their accounts split into four individual memberships. Instead of getting four accounts for $99 a year, you will now be forced to pay the full price for each individual account. The hits just seem to keep rolling in. (Microsoft, Xbox 360, Xbox LIVE)

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Lovable  +   254d ago
What's with the amount of Xbone article today? Seriously.
ApolloTheBoss  +   254d ago | Well said
Running from the truth won't make it go away.
adorie  +   254d ago
What truth is that?
Maddens Raiders  +   254d ago | Well said
Speaking of truth....
Is it me or does anyone else notice as of late MS's "news" always seems to be about reversing course, clarifying a statement, changing specs, changing some arcane policy, or easing "restrictions" -- while PS news is usually about games & features, review of games & features, new features, or new games?
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darthv72  +   254d ago
i read that as they are converting the family accounts to gold accounts for the remainder of your subscription time AND adding in another 3mo of service per converted account.

It didnt say anything about paying the difference for that time remaining. Or am i missing something?
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shoddy  +   254d ago | Well said
You get what you pay for./S

seriously how can people still bow down to MS greed.
georgeenoob  +   254d ago
"Running from the truth won't make it go away"

Truth is MS has more/better exclusives and tons more features than Sony and the fanboys on N4G are the ones running away from the truth focusing on things like the size of the power brick or what comes without a Gold subscription. That's why you see so many of these articles, trying to hide the bigger picture by criticizing the X1 with small things.

Oh the irony.
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ApolloTheBoss  +   254d ago | Well said
^^^Obvious troll is obvious. Try harder next time.
ABizzel1  +   254d ago
There's a bunch of misinformation going on so please clarify. We all understand Xbox Live Gold Family Plan is out. Instead of paying $99 for 4 memberships you have to pay $60 for you XBL account.

But does this mean:

EXAMPLE 1: Boomy and his best friends across the country all shared the XBL family plan for $99. Do they now have to purchase their own separate plan for $60 each once the subscription expires.

or

EXAMPLE 2: Boomy and his best friends across the country all shared the XBL family plan for $99. Boomy buys XBL for $60 and puts his account on his friends Xbox One. Everyone can use that same XBLGold since Boomy paid for it.

How I'm reading it is more like Example 2 (or maybe I just don't want it to be Example 1), but that brings up another question. Can you share it with all Xbox on the same ISP, or can you share it with anyone?

Edit

After further reading on IGN it says you can game share with anyone, so I'm guessing so as long as you give your gamertag / account info to your friend they should be able to use your XBL like, kind of like it is now. But I don't want someone playing on my account so hopefully license transfer still works.

Edit 2

Okay so after going to M$ website, you can share with anyone "in your home". If you have multiple profiles on your console everyone can use the same content even if they didn't buy it. If you use another console outside the home and buy a game, it will be playable on your profile, and saved to your home console so your family can still play it on your console.

So these feature is unlimited as long as the gamers are using your console at your home (kind of pointless if everyone wants their own console, and pretty much what anyone does to begin with).

However, when you're on another console you can download your profile and everyone can play with XBL Gold as long as your using your profile.

So this whole service is pretty much a joke. The only benefit is not having kids cartoons as your top recommendation with Netflix.

http://news.xbox.com/2013/0...
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WrAiTh Sp3cTr3  +   254d ago
"Speaking of truth....
Is it me or does anyone else notice as of late MS's "news" always seems to be about reversing course, clarifying a statement, changing specs, changing some arcane policy, or easing "restrictions" -- while PS news is usually about games & features, review of games & features, new features, or new games?"

Nothing about PS really interests me so I haven't been paying attention, especially in this article which has nothing to do with PS.
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GribbleGrunger  +   254d ago
@ABizzel1: You are confusing to different policies. This is for the 360. The one you are speaking of is for the X1. Like I said below, perhaps MS will include the 360 in that X1 offer but as it stands at the moment, every member of your family will need a separate LIVE account for the 360.
Death  +   254d ago
"The new system "will enable any Xbox Live Gold member on Xbox One to extend many Gold features to others at no additional cost," Whitten wrote. "One Xbox Live Gold account delivering great benefits to everyone in the home."

If you read the announcement it clearifies it. Home Gold is making it so an unlimited amount of accounts can be set up on one box as long as there is a main gold account set up on it. This way your wife and kids can have there own unique accounts on the same box at the normal $59 yearly rate covering all accounts.

It will not cover seperate XboxOne systems though. Each system requires a main account at $59 a year since each system can be logged in at the same time. The old family plan was ideal for multiple Xbox360's in the same household at a reduced rate. For families accessing all 4 accounts (or more under the new plan)on a single Xbox, they will be saving $40 a year. If they were using multiple box's it is going up between $20-$140 a year depending on how many they plan to use at once.
YNWA96  +   254d ago
Apollothetroll, be nice now. If you have no interest in X1, why are you commenting on this article then? Oh yeah, your trolling....
ABizzel1  +   254d ago
@GribbleGrunger

I wasn't discussing the Xbox 360, I specifically meant the XB1 and as @Death said right below you, this new XB Gold Home is a awful replacement for XBL Family Plan. Most of the people bought the family plan because they owned multiple consoles in the household, or they shared the account with 3 other family members so they only had to pay $25 each.

This new XBL Home Gols cost $60 vs. $100 for the family plan, but everyone in the house has to use the same console to get the same benefits that the family plan offered. The problem is I nor many other people want to share my console with multiple people in the house. When I want to play I don't want to wait for Billy, John, Susan, or whoever else to get done to play. The family plan offered all this on 4 different consoles, and I'd rather pay the $40 to keep that functionality.

This also means that those 4 family members who payed for the plan at $25 each, now have to pay $60 each, because M$ wants more money. $100 vs. $240. It's just utterly ridiculous how M$ does something good, and then turn arounds and hits you in the wallet even more.

This is the final nail in the coffin for me. I gave M$ chance after chance to prove to me, the XB1 was worth it. Game-wise they proved it, but M$ is the greediest f@$#ing corporation I've seen, and I would be happy if the Xbox brand died with the XB1, because at least we had a decent ride with the 360.

I will not be buying an XB1 this generation, and it's looking more and more like I'll be a PS4 / Wii U owner, or a single console owner (PS4) if Nintendo doesn't get their stuff together (always have PC).

I'm just done. I'm not about to support someone who wants to nickel and dime you every chance they get. Xbox brand can die a slow painful death, and for all you Xbox supports good luck to you, and I wish you the best with your console.
Virus201  +   254d ago
Running from what truth?

The truth is;

They are getting rid of it because when the Xbox One comes out, you only need one Gold account ($60) on the console, and you can make unlimited account.

That website (hardcopy.com) tries to spin it and make it seem like everyone will have to pay now because they are getting rid of the Family pack. If you read the email, they'll be offering those people 3months of Xbox Live (which surprisingly end in November).
Death  +   254d ago
How many PS4's can play online at once with PS+?
ABizzel1  +   253d ago
@Death

http://www.playstationlifes...

The point is M$ greedy @$$e$ are once again taking away something that was beneficial on the Xbox 360 just so they can try to make more money. If you want to offer XBL Home Gold fine, but don't take away the Family plan, because there are families where each child has their own console.

This plan will only let you share on a single console with all profiles loaded to it. If you have multiple console you have to pay $60 per console rather than $100 for up to 4 like the official Xbox websites says.

I'm sick of this give 1+ and take 2- from M$, and I'm just done. I'm not about to support someone who want to nickel and dime the consumers especially after making the 360 the success it was even after events like the RROD, and having a 1st party game drought for since January and not getting a new IP for what 2 years. M$ has turned the Xbox brand completely corporate, and it's no longer about gaming, but how much money they can take from gamers. And they can k!$$ my @$$.
JokesOnYou  +   253d ago
lol, You see this is what I'm talking about, this site including folks on n4g just automatically turned good news into something bad, something evil.

The family sharing existed for $99 family members could share multiple xbox live gold accounts on 1 360. The new xbox live policy for sharing means that for each console you can have multiple gold accounts on that 1 360/X1 for only $60.

This is good news XBL just got cheaper for those who purchased the family plan and of course you sony kids just blindly start hating.
sAVAge_bEaST  +   253d ago
@adorie,

The truth is that M$ does not care about their customer base, will nickle and dime whenever they can,.. and produce the Daily Fail.
rainslacker  +   253d ago
@Jokes

That's Abizzel's problem though with the new plan. He wants to have the family plan to be able to have multiple consoles available to play in one home. He doesn't want to have to pay a separate live fee for each console in the home. The family plan was more cost effective for him, so now with multiple consoles, he will be spending more.

It's great that MS is allowing unlimited(?) accounts on a single Xbox, but it doesn't pertain to each individual console in the home. There are many multi-console homes out there, and it's perfectly reasonable for him to not like it.

Maybe I'm misunderstanding how the family plan works, but that seems to be his gripe. It's obviously not going to be cheaper for him, and a couple others...so in a sense, a good feature is now a step backwards.
JokesOnYou  +   253d ago
Correction this is for Xbox One. 360 users will have to use the Gold Members gamertag for access to online. Again its making a big deal out of nothing, you still have access to all Gold services on 360, just not with a separate gamertag for free.

@Rainslacker but you still have access to gold on multiple consoles you own, its just locked to your Gold membership gamertag, so all it means is that for others who live in your house but don't pay for their own Gold subscription they will have to use your gamertag to log in for gold services.
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Ritsujun  +   253d ago
Xbone180'd.
awi5951  +   253d ago
@shoddy

Apparently Sony since they are jealous of that 500 million a month microsoft gets form xbox live. I cant believe no one even cares that sony is charging for online play this gen after all the years of bashing Xbox for it. But if sony does it it's ok? Really, sony fanboys do you know how silly that looks? Screw both consoles im staying pc having too much fun at much cheaper prices with better graphics.
Redempteur  +   253d ago
They are getting rid of the familly plan , so what ? now every xbox360 owner MUST upgrade to the xbone ?

i mean yes this is good to have one account for a console , especially in the xbone VS ps4 fight that will start in november BUT , what if i want to stay on 360 ??
mewhy32  +   253d ago
What.....micro $ oft trying to milk more money from the sheep? Don't worry thesheep will continue to pay without question and praise the company for making them do it.
thisismyaccount  +   253d ago
Sony better have tons of information to share with us, bad propaganda is still propaganda. Haven´t read anything PS4 related the past 3 weeks, more or less.

Give me sumtin Sony!
UnHoly_One  +   253d ago
Just a curiosity question for all of you guys who are blasting MS for this policy like it's the worst thing ever.

Is it even going to affect you?

I'm guessing probably not, so why are you bitching about it??

If you don't currently use the XBL family deal, you have no business being in here bitching about it.

I see quotes like this all over the page: "This is it, I'm done with MS, I'm never buying anything from them again."

Well, I'm guessing that first off, you didn't have a Gold Family pack to begin with, and second, you probably weren't going to ever buy an XB1 anyway.

I just don't get the people that have to come into every Xbox article and bitch about something that doesn't concern them.
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kreate  +   253d ago
@unholy

Of course it concerns gamers. These ridiculous policies and restrictions slash nickle and diming affects all of us. So it turns ppl off from getting a xbone. So of course ppl will complain.

Doesn't matter what the product is. I'm just mentioning the xbone cuz ms and the xbone is the issue at hand.

If ms make everything simple and consumer friendly, I highly doubt ppl will complain and moan.
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Death  +   253d ago
@abizzel

So PS+ users can share their console with unlimited accounts and only pay for one. If you want to have multiple PS4's in your household, each system needs to have a paid PS+ account to play online.

Live users can share their console with unlimited accounts and only pay for one. If you want to have multiple Xbox's in your household, each system needs to have a paid Live account to play online.

Previously, Microsoft offered a family share plan that gave you 4 Live subscriptions for $99. It didn't matter if all 4 were on the same console or on different consoles.

Previously, Sony didn't charge for online play. Now they are going to charge $50 per PS4 if you want to play online.

I'm not sure I'd label either as greedy since they are businesses. Sony having the same policy now as Microsoft would put the whole "greed" thing on a level playing field.
nukeitall  +   253d ago
@rainslacker:

If he/she truly wants to use multiple consoles, then one account can sign in on many consoles.

Now, if you want multiple consoles and multiple accounts without paying, you have to add a step. On the other consoles (other than the main one), sign in on the account that has XBL Gold, then sign in with the account you want to use.

Bam! Problem solved and you saved money over the family plan!
evilhasitsway  +   253d ago
@adorie

that ms sucks and all ms fans wallets are just getting raped bad ms doesn't know how to treat there customers plain and simple. I started on the first xbox it was a good system to have I also had ps2 but when it came to 360 and ps3 the only big thing between them is the games ps3 just had more games that's the trueth, now with ps4 and x1 ps4 is winning hands down. sony has had a plan and they have stuck to it. ms has changed everything since thy reveal it. that shows me ms doesn't even know what they want. that's the truth.
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The_Con-Sept  +   253d ago
Xbox one is so unstable that it might have been what caused the electricity to fluctuate in black mesa New Mexico!
Gaming101  +   253d ago
It's simple, consoles aren't as profitable as Msoft would like them to be, so they need to creatively come up with new revenue streams, and if that means restricting things that used to save consumers money like family packs, then too F'n bad consumers, you need to pay. This is what gave birth to the used games debacle - it was another way to increase the revenue stream.

Fanboys can't seem to get it out of their head that Msoft doesn't give a crap about them, they care about one thing - improving investor relations, which means increasing profits. It's the North American way of doing business (mostly US). Don't think you're anything other than a revenue stream to a faceless corporation.
rainslacker  +   252d ago
@nuke or joke

OK, I get that, based on this and other comments. I guess my only remaining question is this.

Will Xbox Live allow two people who are on the same primary account(ie, the primary and a secondary) both sign in at the same time from different consoles?

I bring this up because there was an article yesterday about GFWL not kicking you off Xbox Live if you logged into both with the same account. It seems the primary would always be the master account that all subsequent accounts would log in through.

I understand the workaround, and if it's possible for two people to be logged in at the same time from different consoles, I will concur that this workaround would actually benefit people who have the family plan now and want to go that extra step...at least monetarily.

BTW, I'm not trying to stir anything up. I'm genuinely curious since I don't use XBLive now and am interested if MS is trying to make more positive moves for the benefit of the consumer.
Enigma_2099  +   254d ago
It's a reprieve from the Wii U bashing, I guess.
Kingthrash360  +   253d ago
no need to wiiu bash....who bashes the wiiu?
Nintendo is doing a great job of it themselves by not putting out games fast enough. most of wiiu system sellers are coming out next year and the next gen will be in full swing by then....it them not taking advantage of this head start they've had. it them not having a conference at e3. its them not bringing something new to the table.....its all on them....
Me-Time  +   253d ago
People really need to stop quoting the first comment (not you) just to be noticed. It looks like the first 100 comments is in reply to the first one. Get a life, you're crap (for lack of a better word).
Enigma_2099  +   252d ago
You folks make me proud to call myself a gamer...[/sarcasm]
NeutralXP  +   254d ago
Stop trolling and if you don't like it don't comment everybody is sick of hearing PS4 news this isn't a only PS4 site FFS
Blackdeath_663  +   253d ago
no its just that less people are interested in the XBone so naturally less people will look up XBone news thus less people will submit XBone news and the opposite is true for ps4
Jyndal  +   253d ago
Of course it's not a PS4 site only.
There's also PC.
Anything else is just filler.
tuglu_pati  +   254d ago
You'll be hearing a lot Xbox related news from now on and I'm pretty sure that after Camescom they will start advertising the X1 like crazy.
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dedicatedtogamers  +   254d ago
Is this really "news"? I thought that Microsoft killed the family plan to put everyone under one Gold account? At least, that's the way it is on Xbox One, to my knowledge.

Maybe it's a way to get people to upgrade from 360 to X1? I dunno. Someone please clarify.
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ABizzel1  +   253d ago
http://news.xbox.com/2013/0...

By all means correct if I'm reading it wrong, but basically they canceled the family share plan (4 different consoles et XBL Gold for $100) and replaced it with XBL Home Gold (1 console everyone shares content on for $60).

So for families with 1 console it's a benefit because every account on that one console now has XBL Gold, instead of having to pay $60 per gamertag. Also each gamertag can share all the content, but has their own settings. For example, you have kids that watch a bunch of disney cartoons on Netflix, well those videos won't be recommended to you when you sign in to netflix on your gamertag. Also if you buy Gear of War off the store from your gamertag, as long as your kids are playing on the one console everyone can play that copy of Gears of War and even get online.

However, for families that purchase multiple consoles for say dad, and their 2 - 3 kids, you're f@$#ed, because now you have to stick to buying 1 console and sharing everything (that 500GB HDD is going to get full) or pay $60 for each console in the house.

That's what I got from the Xbox site.

Now if you sign in with your profile on a friends house say out of town. If that friend doesn't have XBL Gold it's okay since your account does, so you both can log in with your own gamertags and play online. And if you buy a game on your friends console while using your gamertag, your console back at home will automatically download the game to your home console for when you return. However, as soon as you activate your account back at your home, your friend loses XBL Gold functionality.

So basically they dumped family plan, for no reason, and added a replacement that doesn't help multi-Xbox owners, and want you to pay more money.
JokesOnYou  +   253d ago
@ABizzel1, NO you were making sense until this part:

"However, for families that purchase multiple consoles for say dad, and their 2 - 3 kids, you're f@$#ed, because now you have to stick to buying 1 console and sharing everything (that 500GB HDD is going to get full) or pay $60 for each console in the house."

"So how it works is, on your console, anybody else on the console, whether it's a babysitter that's come over or a friend or your family, can participate in all the experiences like they're on Gold," Xbox chief product officer Marc Whitten told Polygon. "It's with their gamertag so they're not on your gamertag, you don't even have to be there, they're not messing up your gamerscore or your storage or your queues or anything like that. It's their full account experience, but it really gets to take full advantage of many of the Gold features."

"If you login to your gamertag on another Xbox One (for example, at a friend's house or a second console in your house) all of your digital content travels with you, but is only available while you're logged in. Once you sign out, whatever you downloaded is still on that console but will need to be purchased by other users."

"If this sounds familiar, that's because it is. This is how the Xbox 360 handled digital content licenses, providing multiple gamertags access to content on a home console while reverting to "demo" status for Xbox Live Arcade games when logged out at a friend's house. "The way that the home console works is the same way it works for your content," Whitten said. "You play any of your digital content that you downloaded on that home console and we wanted that experience to extend not just around the benefits of the digital system but also what's going on with your [Xbox Live Gold] membership."
http://www.polygon.com/2013...

-So what I gathered from reading this is that when you buy a console one Gamertag(whoever pays the $60 online fee) will be setup as the primary member but you can have UNLIMITED Gamertags created on that same console and those specific gamertags on THAT CONSOLE have full access to all Gold membership services where each of those individual gamertags have full but separate access to Gold services.

The difference is gamertag who paid the $60 can use his gold membership/gamertag on ANY 2nd, 3rd, console he may own including ANYWHERE ON ANY FRIENDS CONSOLE. I mean this is really, really awesome but I do see why only the gamertag who paid $60 can play on any console because if not that would mean you could potentially make 1000 gamertags based on your 1 console ownership/Gold subscription, then give them out to 1000 people to have access to all your games anywhere. This way they keep it locked to 1 console except for whoever pays $60 for Gold membership.
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edonus  +   253d ago
@ABizzle
I think you got it close, but why would you be f@$#ed? The membership is for Gold and X1 has unlimited cloud storage. This means if you are buying gold you have internet access.

One thing I like but will take some getting use to is having one centralized console that everything is extended from. So I could buy 3 X1s have everyone registered to 1 and basically share our library I would think even if they are out of state (it just depends on how you register). This is actually very close to what the original policies offered.
JokesOnYou  +   253d ago
Edit, On my above post the 2nd to last sentence should have said:

"then give them out to 1000 people to have access to your GOLD membership anywhere, without paying."

-Yeah edonus, I mean this is a sweet deal, everybody in you household(has access to your console) is set up with full Gold service....and you can use your gold membership on any console anywhere.

btw I'm not going to ever share my gamertag....but think about this basicly you and a brother or trusted friend could both buy an X1, only 1 of you buy a Gold membership, buy all digital games and if you share gamertags essentially only 1 of you needs to buy any game and you both can play it(at seperate times) even if he lives on the other coast. lol, just like you can do now except more conveniently if you don't live together.
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rainslacker  +   253d ago
@Jokes

So to clarify, because honestly this stuff is getting confusing...

If you set up a primary console...say the living room, and all the households members are registered as users on that console, they can then play all the same content on another console?

If so how does that prevent anyone from just setting up all their friends under their account and those friends being able to log on anywhere?

It seems to me, that with this plan, only one person, whether the primary or secondary, could be logged in at one time. If that's the case, how could two people play different consoles at one time and both be logged in?

I guess to put it simply, is it possible for both the primary and secondary accounts to be able to log in at the same time? If so then this is a great plan. If not, then it's not really a solution to anything that Abizzel is talking about.

Maybe I'm just missing something since I'm not too familiar with the XBox Live service...but that appears to be ABizzel's issue here beside the actual monetary loss he thinks he'll incur.
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MasterCornholio  +   253d ago
"Maybe it's a way to get people to upgrade from 360 to X1?"

That makes sense. Microsoft downgrades a service on the Xbox 360 to give people an incentive to upgrade. Sounds despicable but knowing Microsoft it could be true.

Motorola RAZR i
JokesOnYou  +   253d ago
"It seems to me, that with this plan, only one person, whether the primary or secondary, could be logged in at one time. If that's the case, how could two people play different consoles at one time and both be logged in?"

Rainslacker

"Microsoft's spokesperson confirmed that won't be the case. "Gold features will stay active on your home Xbox One console even if you roam and login to use your Gold features elsewhere," the spokesperson said".
http://kotaku.com/xbox-one-...

"On Xbox One if you are an Xbox Live Gold member, you will be able to go to a friend’s house and play co-op multiplayer– even if your friend is not a Gold subscriber. Once you log in with your Xbox Live Gold account, everyone using that console can access multiplayer and entertainment apps for as long as you are logged in."
http://news.xbox.com/2013/0...

-So again the Gold membership can be used by the home console owner whoever paid $60 for the Gold membership ANYWHERE ON ANY CONSOLE, the other gamertags created for family members on that console only have access to gold services(online) on that 1 home console.
devwan  +   253d ago
@Jokes

"-So again the Gold membership can be used by the home console owner whoever paid $60 for the Gold membership ANYWHERE ON ANY CONSOLE, the other gamertags created for family members on that console only have access to gold services(online) on that 1 home console."

OK, you keep clarifying that, but how about this, because this is the part I can't see clarified quite as clearly:

You have gold on your home machine and the master account. You set up an account for your little brother on the same machine, he can now have the same benefits on that machine.

Now you go to your friend's house, he doesn't have live so you sign in there and play online.

At home, your little brother wants to play online on his account. Is this possible at the same time? From what you said I think it is. If so, it seems you can happily run a maximum of two accounts through one live payment if you own 2 xbox ones, as only one secondary account can possibly play on your main machine while you sign in to another. If this is the case, you'd need just 2 live payments to happily run 4 machines in one home - and for someone with 4 machines under the family plan they're now paying just $20 more at $120 instead of $100, so it's not a massive difference. Of course, that all depends on the possibility of a secondary account being allowed to use live functionality if the main account is signed into a non-primary xbox one machine.
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nukeitall  +   253d ago
@devwan:

"Of course, that all depends on the possibility of a secondary account being allowed to use live functionality if the main account is signed into a non-primary xbox one machine."

That is exactly how it works confirmed by MS.
adorie  +   253d ago
Only on N4G, can you get hit with a shit ton of disagrees for asking a simple question.

I've got to hand it to some of these people here. Darwin awards should be expanded.
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MasterCornholio  +   253d ago
Its for the 360......

Motorola RAZR i
CRAIG667  +   253d ago
you only need ONE live account per household on x1.
seedaripper1973  +   253d ago
Do Microsoft have any feet left???
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Belking  +   253d ago
It's the norm around here. If's MS they always focus on the negative.
cl1983  +   254d ago
I have to question there being no mention of the source of this image.
Queasy  +   254d ago
It's legit. I got the same email.
cl1983  +   254d ago
I was just taken back that the story didn't list some type of source.
guitarded77  +   254d ago
It's legit, but yeah... you're right. It's irresponsible for a site not to list a source. Journalism 101. That's how misinformation and lawsuits happen.

On topic: MS just hasn't learned yet. People don't want features taken away. They don't want value stripped. They want every penny they can get from Live users, so they take away the family plan which makes it cheaper for families/groups to have XBOX Live.
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Neoninja  +   254d ago
Didn't they say though that if you have gold on one account all other accounts can use it on the xbox?

http://news.xbox.com/2013/0...
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GribbleGrunger  +   254d ago
So basically MS have give something to a none existent userbase by offering a one account solution to the X1 owners, and then shaft a userbase of 40+ million 360 owners ... Why does there always have to be a catch?

@green: Am I understanding it incorrectly? You used to be able to buy a family pack that gave you LIVE for $99 but that's been dropped. Doesn't this mean that every member of your family will need to pay full price for LIVE?

They're making you pay more ... no?

The catch is that they offered the X1 deal first to make you feel all nice and rosy and then they do this to a userbase of 40 million+.
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green  +   254d ago
What is the catch?
GribbleGrunger  +   254d ago
What's your take on it then? Are you happy that people can no longer pay $99 a year for a family pack, so they have to pay much more? Clearly it's no coincidence that MS announce the one account solution for the X1 and then make 360 owners pay more. Can't you see the connection? Can't you see that MS are using 360 owners to help foot the bill for their X1`offer?
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No_Limit  +   254d ago
there is no catch Gribble,

It is a migration to a one account system and existence members account within the Family plan will be compensated.

every single one of the family secondary accounts are being converted to their individual Gold account for free until the expiration date. In addition, each account gets 3 extra months for free. The original master account after 8/27 is the account that gets all the just announced 'Home Gold' and its sharing features. Yes, the sharing of one Gold account on a single console also applies to the X360 in addition to the XB1.

Christ!, am I the only one that read the entire article to get the full details instead of coming up with conclusion based on the headline article?
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r2oB  +   253d ago
@ No_Limit

It states in the article that sharing one Gold account for multiple users on one console is for the Xbox One, it does not mention that feature for the 360.

The catch is that after they convert everyone each former member of the Family Pack will receive their own Gold account; but what will happen when that subscription ends? Each member will have to renew @ $60/Gold account in order to have XBL gold on the 360 (as opposed to $99 for 4 Gold accounts).

This is good news for Xbox One owners with multiple users on one console, but bad news for Xbox 360 owners with multiple users on one console.

Between this news, and the lack of exclusive titles coming to the 360... it seems that Microsoft has little to no regard for their current 360 userbase. Once again Microsoft is putting all their focus on the next console, and slowing abandoning the current console.
Geezus  +   254d ago
ehh the family pack was expensive anyway im glad theyre fazing it out... they should go with the xbox one plan for all devices tho just for continuity and im more than sure that 40 mill+ werent on the family gold sharing plan they were the minority for sure tour kinda over exaggerating
edit: they made family gold plan out unavailable like 2 month ago
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GribbleGrunger  +   254d ago
edit: I responded to your post before you completely re-wrote it.

I'm not sure you've quite understood what's going on here. The X1 has a one account solution. This enables you to share an account with your family on the X1. This will mean MS can't make as much money from LIVE on the X1. What they've done is removed the family plan from the 360 so that you have to pay more for your family members to play online, thus using 360 owners to foot the bill for the X1 one account solution.

@No_Limit: That's only for a limited time. Then people with a family of 5 will have to pay $300 a year!

And yes, I did read it all. It's just that I can see the bigger picture.
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GribbleGrunger  +   254d ago
Ok, so I'll concede that 'perhaps' MS may apply the new X1 policy to 360s too, but as it stands at the moment, they are two separate policies. I will gladly eat humble pie if I'm wrong and MS clarify this.
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deadfrag  +   254d ago
Yes every member will have to have a diferent account and pay for it,the only catch is that M$ will disolve the family accounts and give 3 months free for every member in that family account.Give with one and take with two!!
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slimeybrainboy  +   254d ago
Arent they swapping it for something else anyway?

http://uk.ign.com/articles/...
PopRocks359  +   254d ago
Whoa, whoa, whoa... wasn't it stated for both PS4 and Xbox One that if you get the subscriptions for one account you basically have them for all accounts on the console? Or is my information inaccurate?

@DarkBlood

That's why I'd assume a feature like this would be totally pointless anyway. If you have a single subscription, you don't need to spend an extra $39 four three additional accounts that already get the perks!
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DarkBlood  +   254d ago
i believe you are correct, i dont know if it was for both consoles though but i do remeber reading something to that effect
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3-4-5  +   254d ago
for PS4 i thought it was true, guess not for XB1.

The family pack is for multiple consoles right ?

or why would anybody pay twice to have internet on one system.

Didn't know these existed but it sounds like they are trying to "Push", people to buy the new XB1 and abandon the Xbox 360.

Hmmm. Could go either way with this, but I still think there is more with this we don't know or they aren't telling us.
Virus201  +   254d ago
It's like that for the Xbox One as well. THat's why they are getting rid of the family plan and offering those people 3months of Xbox live (up to November). Then when they get their Xbox One consoles, they can transfer those account from the 360 to the X1 and they'll be free.
Halochampian  +   254d ago
Exactly.

Other sites are focusing on the Home Gold feature.

N4G focuses on getting rid of features for this better one.

Shows you the state of mind of this site.
ABizzel1  +   253d ago
That's the problem Home Gold isn't better unless your family only buys 1 console to being with.

Everything in Home Gold you can do now on 360, simply by transferring the license of the game to the account you want (you can only do it twice I believe).

Home Gold just let's everyone who comes over to visit log in their account on your Xbox One and use your XBL Gold. Compared to the family plan offering Gold for up to 4 different consoles.
GraveLord  +   254d ago
The good news just keeps on coming.
Smoovekid  +   254d ago
I don't know if you did not read or you are using sarcasm?
GraveLord  +   254d ago
Depends on whose reading it :D
No_Limit  +   254d ago
Great news again. Not only is every single one of the family secondary accounts are being converted to their individual Gold account, each account gets 3 extra months for free.

Nice!
deadfrag  +   254d ago
But after the 3 month free you have to pay $60 to keep the gold!No more family memberships at $99!Get that!They know Gold memberships will not grow much more,so what they do its screw the family gamers,this way me and my two kids will eventualy have to pay for 3 gold accounts and not a common one at cheaper price.
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No_Limit  +   254d ago
What are you talking about, it is a discount of $40 when you think about it.

The original Family plan has a Master account, let the user add 4 additional secondary accounts with his/her console.

With this new system, One $60 account can let an any users like your two kids, your friend coming over to visit, and anyone with a silver or guest account to log in the same console and get all the gold feature as the original owner do. It is a better and more optimized service than the old family plan.
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Virus201  +   254d ago
No. The 3 months end in November. The Xbox One comes out in November, and they'll be able to transfer their account there and they'll be free as long as one person has a Gold Account on the console.
wicked  +   253d ago
This is from my email:

Starting August 27, 2013, we will be converting each activated account on your Gold Family Pack to an individual Xbox Live Gold membership to prepare for new upcoming features on Xbox Live Gold. Rest assured, each individual membership will work on both Xbox 360 and Xbox One.

Through the new Home Gold feature on Xbox One, a single Xbox Live Gold membership will allow anyone in your home to enjoy many Gold features like multiplayer, access to Gold entertainment apps, and more on your Xbox One.*

As a bonus, we will give each converted individual Xbox Live Gold membership from your Gold Family Pack an extra 3 months of Gold (in addition to the time remaining on your membership term).**

Before your memberships convert, you can still add family members to your Xbox Live Gold Family Pack, for a total of up to four accounts. However, any unassigned secondary accounts will no longer be accessible after your conversion. Please be sure to update your secondary accounts here.
gcolley  +   253d ago
they are introducing new features. read the article.
ABizzel1  +   253d ago
@No_Limit

You're wrong. Everyone can use the 1 $60 XBL Home Gold plan as long as their account is on the same Xbox One. If you're like deadfrag and many other families who own 2, 3, or 4 consoles for each person you have to pay $60 per console.

That's why people are pissed off.
Metfanant  +   254d ago
This is bananas...if I'm understanding this right, MS simply does not think things through properly when they make decisions...

They get it right on the Xbone by saying of the main account as XBL Gold, then the other accounts can access the features...

But then they go and shaft the 360 owners on family plans?...come on MS!1 step forward,2 steps back with you guys...

Hopefully this can get clarified and maybe a firmware update for the 360 can make it behave like the Bone...
gcolley  +   253d ago
They may replace it with something similar given the content of the first bullet point... but their marketing department needs to go, I think that is one thing we can all agree on?!
buynit  +   254d ago
Maybe they plan on doing the same thing that they are going to do on xbo? Just one acc. Needed for everyone in the house.
KYU2130  +   254d ago
All I got from that was MS is forcing owners of the 360 to jump ship for the XB1.
Fireseed  +   254d ago
Yeah this article is VERY misleading, it should go hand in hand with the fact that they just announced if anyone on a Xbox console has Gold, so does EVERYONE else on that console.
Metfanant  +   254d ago
Actually they announced if anyone on a. XBOX ONE console has gold, then everyone shares the features...there was no mention of the 360 in that article...
Fireseed  +   254d ago
No there was, it said that it was coming to 360 soon, but now that you mention it I can definitely see the invisible hand of MS aggressively pushing people onto the X1 with this action. Essentially "Buy an Xbox One or pay for separate accounts until we get it working on 360." But let's get one thing straight none of us work for MS so none of us can honestly "it should be easy to put it on 360, just copy paste the X1 program for it!" I'm sure it's a little more complicated than that, but one thing's for sure they should have been ready to roll it out on 360 at the same time as X1
AceBlazer13  +   254d ago
@Fireseed just like they couldn't just remove DRM
Gridloc  +   254d ago
MS says anyone on your xbone can play your digitally downloaded games and use all the features under your gold membership and logged in under their own account. But what im not hearing anything about is physical software. I bet you have to log in under your own gold account to play online.
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Jaybronee  +   254d ago
M$ does this stuff because the consumers allow it. Doesn't make sense to me...
SmielmaN  +   254d ago
There will still be MS guys/gals who will say "shut up and take my money!"
AceBlazer13  +   254d ago
Basically get a Xbone or pay us more money.Basic Microsoft .
SpideySpeakz  +   254d ago
Or pay less money and get a PS4. Those +40 million Xbox users have more options outside the box.
Tyre  +   254d ago
@MassEffect23 Like all my Xbox friends on my list...We're all buying PS4 instead of a Xb-one. Most of their friends too. That's the real truth and nothing but the truth. Don't believe it Xbox gamers here on N4G, keep denying reality. Most gamers are abandoning Microsoft for Sony.
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AceBlazer13  +   254d ago
Just when I was beginning to think Microsoft was getting their shit together.
XboxFun  +   254d ago
First the power brick and now this!?!

Damn, I just can't seem to bring myself to want the Xbox One anymore....

Oh wait, this doesn't matter to me at all and since I haven't seen not one Sony fanboy here mention they had it I am sure it never mattered to them either.
Neoninja  +   254d ago
People must be just reading the title or something cause this is not a bad thing. It doesn't help that the site only tells half of the story.
Basically if you have gold and your family or friends share your xbox they all have gold! Since they're implementing this feature its no need for family sharing. It saves money like No Limit said.
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Gridloc  +   254d ago
Only digitally downloaded games...
1lawrence  +   254d ago
But if u have family u not tied to one console so it saves money don't want to wait for my son to stop playing on my Xbox to play this doesn't save me nothing
Metfanant  +   254d ago
But...

1. This doesn;t work on the 360...so those that are not early adopters get screwed...

2. it only works on ONE console your "Home" console...so if you have multiple consoles in the house youre screwed...

3. Under the OLD plan...if i had a son on my family plan, and he went to a friends house he could play under his XBL gold account anywhere...under the new plan he cannot...only on my console at home unless he wants to spend $60 and get his own account...
ABizzel1  +   253d ago
No you're not understanding. People with families who have multiple console no longer pay $100 for 4 different consoles, they now have to pay $240 unless they buy 1 Xbox One for all of their kids to share.

M$ is telling families either buy 1 console and share it, or pay us and extra $20 (for two consoles), $80 (for 3 consoles), or $140 (for 4 consoles).

That's why people are pissed.
Loki86  +   254d ago
Love this troll article, did you even read the policy or just decide this how it is. Do research before posting bs thanks. One live sub for your xbox or account, meaning all family members or friends have full gold access as long as your account is on the console. This extends to 360 and X1 since it a shared account.
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Metfanant  +   254d ago
link please to show that "Home Gold" applies to the 360...because ive got one that shows it doesn't lol
cell989  +   253d ago
Don't like it, I console per master account? When Sony currently allows 2
bub16  +   254d ago
Lets throw in a FREE MIC!... and pay the full price for each individual account..........
cell989  +   253d ago
Well if Sony keeps things as they are for PS3 you can share all your stuff on 2 PS3s which is very useful
edonus  +   253d ago
Why do we have all of these Sony supporters misinterpreting information in every X1 thread.

This is actually a very balanced compromise. The family share plan could only cover up to 4 people if i'm not mistaken and each individual of the house would need their own so in a big house hold those 4 memberships could go fast.

Now with this from what I gather, you pay your $60 and everyone at your house (or should I say registered to your console) has access to gold and the digital games library. If someone lives out of state that you had a family share plan with you could just register them to your console and you have just saved $40 bucks.

The question is how many profiles can be registered to your console and can you register on multiple consoles.
vigilante_man  +   253d ago
If you as a 360 owner and Live subscriber are happy then that's fine. Don't really matter what non-Live members think.
gnothe1  +   253d ago
the sony boys on this site is terrible...it goes like this...if you have ONE CONSOLE..every account on THAT CONSOLE is considered a gold account an can do an share everything...if you buy ANOTHER SYSTEM then you have to buy ANOTHER GOLD ACCOUNT...whats funny is..you guys are bashing MS for this but...this is the same policy as the PS4...any PS4 that has a PS Plus account can share that PS plus account on that same system ONLY... if they buy another PS4 then they have to buy another PS plus account...

http://www.playstationlifes...
LeCreuset  +   253d ago
Since I own Sony game systems, I haven't bothered to comment in this article. But if you want to make the conversation about Sony, I'll jump in to correct your false equivalency.

This isn't about what you can do on Xbone. What people (not just "sony boys" but current 360 owners) are upset about is that family plan 360 users with multiple systems under that plan are getting the shaft. Stop typing in caps about every account on one console. We already know that. You're not ahead of the rest of the class. You're behind. That's not the issue. If you only have one 360, then great. If you have multiple consoles, then you're being screwed on this one.

The PS4 comparison is ridiculous. It would make more sense to compare it to the PS3, as the complaints are about 360 family plan users. The equivalent would be Sony coming out and saying you could now only use Plus on one console. Despite requiring Plus for PS4 multi-player, online multi-player will still be free on PS3. They aren't forcing your hand. It just seems like you're always waiting for the other shoe to drop with MS, and the nickel and diming to start.
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gnothe1  +   253d ago
lecreuset..the gold family plan was supposed to be a way that a family can share an xbox..but since it came with 4 xbl codes people was using them on other Xbox's, but that wasn't the initial planned use for that..online multiplayer gaming requires xbl gold an if you wanted to play online with more than one profile,that profile was required to have gold..hence the gold family plan..MS is just forcing it to be used the way they meant for it to be used in the first place...is there a family PS plus?..i don't think so...so why is it a big problem for MS?
LeCreuset  +   253d ago
gnothe1

Come on son. Do you think MS is that stupid? They knew you could use them on other 360 units and had no problem with it. It's the same way Sony knows I can get Plus games through my subscription and my friend can use my subscription to get games for himself without ever having to pay for plus.

Don't fool yourself. MS knew what they were doing with Gold. It's a much more enticing reason to buy more 360 units, instead of sharing with family members, if a person doesn't have to worry about shelling out for gold every time they decide to buy their kid, wife, et al. a 360. Now that they're moving away from the 360 and rolling out the One they coincidentally decided to implement gold "the way they meant for it to used in the first place"? Yeah. Okay.

As for your question: Don't ask a question and answer it yourself. It's pathetic. Why would PS3 owners need a Plus family plan when ANY PS3 with, or without, Plus can play online for free? Are you serious? Now if Sony were to change that up on their PS3 customers that have already bought the system by forcing them to convert to the PS4 style Plus with multiplayer behind a pay wall then that would be equivalent to what MS is doing here.
sovietsoldier  +   253d ago
"more money! we want more money!"-microsoft

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SynestheticRoar  +   253d ago
Fleecing of america.
GusHasGas  +   253d ago
NOO!!! :( damn you Microsoft
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wotsit99  +   253d ago
they're trying to get more and more money but why cant you use one account for the family?
KingKevo  +   253d ago
Actually even though I dislike MS, this is not too bad and very logical to make, since Gold on Xbox One offers features for everyone with an account on the console even though they don't have Gold. But it does suck for people who own a 360 I guess.
shorty74a  +   253d ago
I have been reading post about how are upset about family plans going away because now they have to pay more per each account. It is 60 per month vs 100. How many Xbox ones are you really going to have? Family plans came out a few years after launch of the 360. Maybe they will come Back a few years after X1 launch. But all I see in my case is a 40 in savings a year.
PrimeGrime  +   253d ago
Is this the awesome continued 360 support they were talking about? Looks like they have plans for the 360 for years to come after all. /s
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ma1asiah  +   253d ago
At Home with Xbox One

If you’re an Xbox Live Gold member, an unlimited number of people can enjoy many benefits of Xbox Live Gold while they are using your Home Xbox One console. Friends and family will simply create their own account and gamertag and be able to enjoy Xbox Live online multiplayer gaming and access to entertainment apps.

Friends coming over to play? No problem. They can log in with their own gamertag and play online multiplayer. Even if you sign off, your friends and family can enjoy multiplayer gaming while they are playing on your Home Xbox One console

At a Friend’s House with Xbox One

On Xbox One if you are an Xbox Live Gold member, you will be able to go to a friend’s house and play co-op multiplayer– even if your friend is not a Gold subscriber. Once you log in with your Xbox Live Gold account, everyone using that console can access multiplayer and entertainment apps for as long as you are logged in.

At Home with Xbox 360 and Xbox One

If you are an Xbox Live Gold member today, you are already set for Xbox One. Your Xbox Live Gold membership for Xbox 360 will seamlessly become an Xbox Live Gold account on your Xbox One and you will be able to enjoy Xbox Live Gold features on either console. You can even be logged in to Xbox 360 and Xbox One at the same time. Home Gold benefits are exclusively for Xbox One.

What Home Gold Means for the Xbox One Experience

With Xbox One everyone in your home has a personalized account, which will enable powerful and personal experiences, and that’s one of the reasons why we wanted to create Home Gold. It means that your account and your gamertag are truly yours. You don’t have to share your gamertag for multiplayer gaming with others in your home, or see recommendations for your kid’s cartoons next to the recommended first-person shooter for you. It also means that you can introduce new games and enjoy multiplayer with friends while they are at your house. Last but not least, it also means that when you buy one Xbox Live Gold membership, multiple people can enjoy the best benefits of Xbox Live Gold on your Xbox One at no additional charge.

http://news.xbox.com/2013/0...

* This is what happens when people ONLY see what they want to see. Which in this case is looking for negatives where none exist.

As you can see all the features offered behind the Gold XBL subscription can still be enjoyed by others who do not have Gold.

One Gold account and everybody reaps the benefits, which if I remember right is 10 accounts per console maximum.

Stop trolling and spouting rubbish as fact.

Enjoy whatever console you prefer and leave the rest of us to enjoy the X1 as it was never intended for you but for those of us who ACTUALLY Like the X1.

The PS4 is an awesome console and I love what they are trying to do with it, but the X1 with all the changes that keep rolling in just gets better and better.

No matter what console you choose we the gamers win, there are no loosers ONLY happy gamers who are now reaping the benefits of this console war.
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