Capcom did a fine job handling the multi-platform Devil May Cry 4. You know, making sure all versions looked the same. But was that easy? Producer Hiroyuki Kobayashi explains.
i swear, if capcom doesn't do the same with RE5, news will come out that i killed everyone in Capcom..
No doubt. If RE5 requires a freakin' 5gig download to run, I will *definately* be buying the 360 version. Rumor has GTA IV is requiring an "install" to run on PS3... what is up Sony ?
of course they will. It's a big game and PS3 should have a pretty healthy user base by then.
Please explain to me what does Sony have to do with third party games?
Sony seems to be doing pretty good regardless of your complaints with some 3rd party companies requiring installs. Personally I don' base purchases on whether or not there is an install. I purchase them based on final product value. To say you are going to purchase a game before we know anything about it based on a possible install speaks volumes.
"Please explain to me what does Sony have to do with third party games?" "Hiroyuki Kobayashi explains: The Xbox 360 and the PC are close in structure, so it was easy to switch over. The PS3, the CPU and the design are unique... our programmer is extremely talented, and was able to figure it out. I think after repeated meetings with Sony that we were able to tap into the PS3." "repeated meetings" means they have something to do with third party developers and their games.
it's seems to be less and less of a problem. I mean compare what the original Rainbow Six Vegas looked like on PS3 compared to part 2.
ya no doubt rv6 looked like a ps2 game
Well now that they know how the insides work it'll just be that much easier to make a game for the PS3.
this is what we hope for. It seems like some dev's just don't get it. I'm starting to think Ubi won't ever get it. I know EA will never get it. Valve doesn't even want to try lol.
Ya, because Gabe Newell is a jackass.....
The fault lies within their pc engine. It uses DirectX libraries and I think thats what the installation was for on the PS3. To install those drivers to run the game. The BS about loading was nothing but BS. Think about it, why force the installation?
has butifull graphics. the game is a bit repetive but that dosent change a bit. the game is a 8.9- 9.3 in my book. I think that RE5 will do better becous the devs is learning how to use the power of the ps3.
...we only ended up using 20% of PS3's TRUE POWER!!! ;-P (+ we used up ALL the 100% of xBox360's FEEBLE power!!!) ;-D
And it used 20% of your hard drive.
Jason you never give up do you...
Why would I wan't to stop somthing thats fun?
It may have been tricky but at least we got the superior version. HAHAHA.
at least every ps3 comes with a hard drive, not like xbox 3rd60
well..... being the picky [email protected] that i am, im going to point out that it in fact took up: 12.5% of your HDD if you have a 40gb PS3 8% of your HDD if you have a 60gb PS3 6% of your HDD if you have a 80gb PS3 and like 1% or less if you upgraded the HDD in your PS3 (a feature not available on the 360, well you can- but you'd have to purchase one of M$'s sh!tty HDD's that only go up to 120gb and cost a almost as much as the console itself....and are not SATA like PS3's HDD and thus are slower)
it's lazy development. Blu-ray is faster than a dual-layered DVD, sorry if you can't figure that out bots.
I see. Ken Kutaragi makes a xbox joke everybody laughs, but Jason makes a ps3 joke all hell breaks loose.
I see. Because clearly the Xbox is owning the crap outta PS3 and Wii... </sarcasm>
Thank you CAPCOM For gimping DMC4 due to DVD9 with more then 90% Recyled content. Its one of the worse DMC ever.
understand how they gimped DMC4 because of dvd9. When it was a ps3 exclusive they game looked graphically the same as when they put on 360. When it was still a ps3 exclusive they game even looked quite bad. And how can you say its shorter because of dvd9. Uncharted is on bluray and is only 7 hours long , 10 hours if you only got a left hand , lets not even talk about Hsword I cant believe you people are still pissed off because dmc4 went muitiplat Anyway its a good thing becausee you cant be sure Capcom arnet ever making another ps3 exclusive as long as the 360 has a bigger install base , Im very happy since Capcom makes quality games.
Blu ray has nothing to with the Length of the game. Thats up to the developers. Did Super Mario(SNES)or any other lenghty game use Blu-ray? no. Wat Blu-ray offers, is making making higher quality games. Something the 360 will never have compared to the PS3 exclusives. JUst look at Halo. DMC4 has 20 missions with huge amount of recycled content. 10 with nero and then 10 with Dante. With both having the same bosses. Could this be because of the DVD9?? or because of Lazy develpors? We will never know...unless DMC5 is a PS3 Exclusive. Im not trying to flame on the 360, but DVD9 puts out a strong argument aganist the quality of the games.
it wasnt bad. just becuse 3fix me gets it dosent mean that the game is bad ( okey it means shoretr but nothing else and worser graphics). but the game was acually good.
i have a 60GB and i didnt buy the game so it used 0% was never a big fan of DMC but still Its not like you cant delete stuff. Im sure many 360 owners using memory cards do it weekly...and if they need a bigger HDD they get out the lube and bend over....
Feel like singing " Money for nothing and Ken's d!ck for free ....I like my 4D...."
Just like your mom taking 4D D!KS at once with out any lube. LOL
Heck, I guess that would explain 98% of "all" inferior multiplatform games on the PS3. Well... that or the PS3 is an inferior platform to design on. One or two devs get it right here and there, but they have to spend months to a year extra just to get it right.
oh yeah the inferior versions are always on ps3, cause youve alwayss played both versions right? Cause you actually own a ps3 right?
Just because something is new and hard doesn't mean it'll be bad forever. At least that's what I hope.
The PS3 reminds me of the PS2 in terms of development. These quotes from developers sound like dejavu and since we all know how the PS2 sold and is selling so well despite it’s difficult learning curve for developers, I guess we could say that the PS3 will also sell well since it seems to be following suit with it’s predecessor. You fail at these arguments little one, perhaps if you didn’t wear your insecurities on your sleeve, or in this case, in your user name (*cough* 360 *cough*) you might actually be a better contender in the discussions.
instead of building the game from scratch to take advantage of the system's strength, they just port the 360 version onto it. In my opinion, that's the only thing that would make it "inferior." And yet, I still think it's hella fun...
And what is with all this installing before playing? I'm really sorry for the 20gb PS3 owners...I know they could easy go out and buy a bigger HDD, but I guest they don't care. It must really be annoying when you want to take your DMC4 copy to a friend's house and you have to wait 20 min to play.
And I cant believe I spent 65 bucks on the freaking game. Thats why Im choosing carefully on the games I get now. All the games that came out early this year and all last year cost the same as all of the AAA titles coming out this year and beyond. Ive finally realized that, and come to the conclusion that I wont be buying any games that dont offer any less than what a AAA title like Metal Gear, GTA4, Fallout 2, Mercenaries, Killzone 2, and Final Fantasy 13 and versus. Its ridiculous how these lame companies like Capcom, can make crappy games like DMC4, or Turok, R6V2, AO2, ATV vs Mx, and pretty much make money off of half assed games. It sickens me, and I vow to not purchase a game that will not truly make me feel like it was worth every freakin penny. Ubisoft is crap on the PS3, and I learned that by rainbow six one and two. End War and Hawx look good, but I have a feeling that they are gonna half ass them games on the ps3. I really dont know what else to say other than I will not be part of the problem. I will be the solution. Thank you brother Zero Tolerance for that infamous quote.
HAHA the funny thing is Capcom is like the only Company that has Installs for the PS3.. No game I own has it.. Capcom is just stupid and doesnt know what its doing...If im not mistaken hasnt all PS systems been difficult to dev for in the begining and then 2 years and beyond you start seeing a HUGE Jump in graphics and gameplay.. I mean I could be wrong but Sony seems to be following a familiar path... a path that usually leads to victory...
Now that you mention it... it could be ! Lol
My only problem with the Install thing is how can a game as pretty as COD 4 on the PS3 not require a Install but other games do. I think the Install thing is a work around until developers get better at making games for the PS3.
Of course it was. PS3 is sh1t.
funny, not xbox 360 is the biggest pile of sh*t on the planet :D you seem to have a sh*t/t*rd fetish :D you bought a pile of sh*t anyway
both were logical and well thought out statements with plenty of facts to back them up and an unbiased analysis to follow........
But, but, but... I love my Xbox360 is not fair to call it Sh*t T_T please apologise...
Oh look this poster only has two bubbles...I wonder why. Take this fool down to one... nobody wants him here.
Hot shot golf for ps3 is made by sony and requires a 5gb installation! Care to explain that?
All of Capcoms other ports sucked beyond belief.
Was making the PS3 difficult to program - that made a lot of developers make the 360 the lead platform (cause they kinda need to sell a game eventually in order to make payroll). The architecture was poorly thought out and doesn't make sense for gaming code. That being said - you can make it work if you try. But that is why Gabe said it does nothing for anyone other than develop a hatred for the architecture. MS's mistake was releasing the XBOX 360 with a cooling system that was marginal - it caused (or will cause) the initial batch of XBOX 360 to fail much sooner than they should. The issues have been mostly fixed but the number of people having problems has tainted the XBOX 360's image. Sony's advantage is Bluray, MS's advantage is cost. It will be interesting to see how everything works out in the end. Will the additional value of having a bluray player (along with a large number of popular sequels) be enough to overcome the cost advantage MS enjoys? Time will tell - but it seems like Sony has no chance to easily win this generation so I wonder if Sony regrets their strategic decisions. I am sure MS does (cause no one wants to make an unreliable product).
Gamecube was easy to dev for too.. Easy to dev for usually means the Max will be hit much faster.. IF you know your systems PS systems are always difficult in the begining.. and always come out with the best games after year 2.. as far as MS advantage being cost.. The 40 gig ps3 is cheaper than the ELite, although not as big as HDD it offers more.. Blu ray and Wifi and free Online.. So that point is well pointless.. And as far as sony NOT easily winning this war.. Its gonna be easier.. 360 has No HD movie options.. (those compressed HD RENTALS are a joke).. Besides Gears halo Mass and Bio.. 2 of which have a chance of being PS3 games as well.. They dont have the much more to offer.. Most of the capabilites of XBL are coming to PSN for free.. and you cant even vid chat with 6 friends on XBL.. So take your achievments and gamerscore and have fun cause your the only one lookin at em
As someone who has moved from PC games to PS3 games ALL of the people whining about installs are a bunch of babies. Change your diapers, take this pacifier, and STFU! You cannot run a PC game without installing some part of that game on the hard drive. I expect patches for games when they dont work the way the developer intended. You all make it seems like life as you know it will end some how if you have to spend a few minutes when you first boot up a game with downloads. You're trading a few minutes, maybe an hour before playing a game for faster load times as well as hours and hours of pure unadulterated fun without having to worry about other subsequent downloads. I will ALWAYS support downloads that improve game playability or quality regardless of the system. I rather wait at the dinner table for a proper metal steak knife to cut my $50 fillet mignon then struggle like a ravenous dog trying to cut that same portion of tender beef with a dull plastic butter knife. In the end I'm still eating that same cut of meat and enjoying it a bit more because I waiting for the proper tools to enjoy it. For those people who must have immediate gratification I hope you go the way of the dinosaur, or the Tasmanian wolf, the days of games not having patches and updates is OVAH. Especially now that the line between PC and Console games is getting more blured by the minute. Keep it moving b**ches!
thats what was supposed to separate consoles from PC's. the pick up an play ability an not having to spend alot on a rig to run these games!! on the PS3 a few games are taking away that pick up a play ability!! an DMC4 isnt the only game with an install. VF5 has one also an last time i checked capcom doesnt make VF. the installs arent that big a deal as long as they dont take over 3-4 minutes anything longer than that is a problem(for me anyways)
I'm not complaining considering the PS3 has the best version and outsold the 360 version by 2:1 worldwide.
But know you know how to do it and can make the next game made for PS3 better right? Great, thanks for listening.
The ps3 version was not better than the xbox 360, unless you read a sony magazine
lol :) OWNED!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"It's harder to program for new tech with new architecture than for old tech with common architecture" Wow. I seriously wouldnt have guessed that. Is this the 360 trolls trying to dig up bad news on the ps3? 'Cos if this is the best you guys can do.....FAIL
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