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Submitted by MariaHelFutura 339d ago | opinion piece

Can the Xbox One Match the PS4 Before November?

Microsoft (NASDAQ:MSFT) may be closing that gap that was established immediately after it and Sony (NYSE:SNE) announced the technical specifications of their upcoming gaming consoles. Sony took the lead right away with a number of higher-performance elements, but that may not stay true until November. (PS4, Xbox One)

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Xwow2008  +   339d ago | Well said
"Though Microsoft’s marginal increase of the Xbox One’s graphic processing performance may not be enough to catch up to the specs on the PS4, it sends a different message: the current specs of the Xbox One might not be the final ones. Microsoft could potentially continue making changes to the system to make it more powerful in the months before the November launch of both consoles."

ROFL..some ppl living in dream land.
LostDjinn  +   339d ago
Really drives home how little most "journalists" understand about the field they find themselves in.
NewMonday  +   339d ago
they could have delayed it to change the GPU after the PS4 February 20 reveal, but it is too late for that now. XB1 will start next gen vastly underpowered.
Ilovetheps4  +   339d ago
newmonday,

I do agree that it's too late to change the specs of the system too much. But I don't think it's THAT underpowered. I think the X1's specs will be much closer to PS4 than people are thinking.

The multiplatform games should look almost identical in my opinion, but the exclusives on PS4 will show off the hardware. But I still the the X1 exclusives will be comparable.
TheGamingArt  +   339d ago
Really shows how much research amateurs do before writing an internet article...... and how they can know nothing about a topic and just put it out there like a discussion.
mcstorm  +   339d ago
What I find funny about gamers on here is all they ever talk about now is power when it comes to Sonys consoles. Gamers on here have very short memory's about the Playstation as last gen was the 1st gen where there console had more power than the other consoles on the market.
Power really is not as big as an issue as is made out on here in fact remember the PS one logo (Don't underestimate the power of Playstation)

Yes its nice having good looking games but it is not looks that make games. Game play is what makes the games and the reason why games sell well. Look at the best selling games from last gen and how many of them were the best looking games of this generation?

Even go back to the gen before and you will see the same with sales.

Power is not the reason why one console will out sell another it is the games and it will be the console that has the right games that appeals to the masses that will sell the most consoles come the end of the next gen.

That said people should buy the console they want to buy not what people on here say and if your a core gamer then you will own all 3 any way so it really dose not matter to you if you do.
nukeitall  +   339d ago
@mcstorm:

spot on!

Specs matter little when they are so close. If it was about power, PC would have killed console market a long time ago.

Ultimately, consoles are about content, ease of use and access, and features. Just look at past history!
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redwin  +   339d ago
Xbox will never catch up to the ps4 in specs without having to worry about a loud and overheating machine. The Xbox was design to use the power if the cloud not the machine.
AngryTypingGuy  +   338d ago
Xbox One might not be as powerful as PS4, but to say that it will start the generation vastly underpowered might be a bit of a reach. Most games will probably look roughly the same. I'll be getting a PS4 first so I hope that most games perform better on it of course, but I'm guessing that most noticeable differences will be with the exclusives.
BitbyDeath  +   338d ago
The power difference is obviously greater than 360 vs PS3 but I don't think it is on the same level as PS2 vs xbox. Really we should all just let the games do the talking.
fr0sty  +   338d ago
Without a delay, there simply is not enough time to make a drastic upgrade to the hardware (which means redesigning the architecture, creating new devkits and drivers to take advantage of it, and getting those tools in the hands of developers who then have to take the time to upgrade their games as much as possible before launch, if it is possible at all). Not only do they have to get the hardware built and delivered, but it must also go through rigorous testing to ensure it can hold up to the heat and that it functions properly. The drivers must be tested for bugs. Just to name a few of the steps needed.

These are not things you do when you are supposed to be giving your manufacturing plants enough time to churn out millions of consoles for a semi-worldwide launch.

If you expect MS to upgrade Xbox One any more than a simple overclock of a few mhz, you should also expect many launch game delays, extreme launch system shortages, and a high console failure rate in addition to games riddled with bugs.

We're already in the final stretch. Whatever they've built at this point is what they're committed to. The factories should already be pumping out final hardware if they plan on meeting launch targets.

As for the power difference between the two... Expect higher resolutions and framerates in some cases for multiplats. It's quite likely that the majority of early multiplats will be made to be about the same for both systems. However, judging by what I've seen, I think towards the end of the generation XB1's hardware will show it's age first, both on multiplats and exclusives.

Time will tell though. The difference is definitely more than with PS3 and 360. With 360, it had a stronger GPU, but weaker CPU (that was easier to program for). PS3 was the opposite. With PS4 and Xb1, they have essentially the same CPU, but the GPU in PS4 is a good bit stronger. Then you factor in the additional RAM and it's higher bandwidth... There will be a larger difference, but it isn't going to be anything most gamers will care about. They didn't care about Xbox's advantages over PS2. PS2 still went on to sell hundreds of millions more consoles.
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iamnsuperman  +   339d ago
O dear. He should stop dreaming. Microsoft couldn't make it more powerful. Launch is too soon. However, they can add extra functionality via software updates
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OlgerO  +   339d ago
I will go with the PS4, but im sure that the games on xbox one will look about the same in the beginning. I think that the differences will become more profound as the years go by
HugoDrax  +   339d ago
@mcstorm

I'm a core gamer, and you're exactly right sir. I own every console and handheld besides the VITA. That will all change eventually as I do have my launch day PS4 & XB1 pre ordered.

Happy gaming people
slampunk  +   338d ago
A sensible reply to a sensible comment..... something you don't see very often in the N4G comments section.... :)

and you got 4 disagrees!!!! LMAO
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n4rc  +   338d ago
I'm not going to get into this again with people.. But the specs are only part of the story..

Just like a car.. HP is important.. But weight, drive line etc all make huge differences..

For sake of argument.. Ps4 has more HP but what if its less efficient?

Having more power on paper is all it is right now.. Maybe it will still be the case come launch.. But.nobody knows for sure
NewsForge  +   338d ago
1.84 Gigaflops is considered mild range. 1.3 Gigaflop is considered entry level (Low end garbage). The Xbox One is severely underpowered. They wanted more TV features so they invested in that instead of a proper GPU. Have fun with your new cable box this holiday while I game on a PS4.
n4rc  +   338d ago
I will..thanks
NeoTribe  +   339d ago
They cant go changing hardware a couple months before release. Unless ofcourse they feel like having the rrod all over again. It did help them sell more consoles -_-
hellvaguy  +   339d ago
How exactly did they "sell" free replacements for 3 years after rrod was discovered? Thats not exactly selling consoles when you have to repair or replace free of charge.
stuna1  +   339d ago
Because a large amount of people didn't want to wait for their consoles to be repaired, especially if a high profile game had come out, like say "Call of Duty"! So most opted to buy brand new consoles. That has played a bigger role on why you have so many gamers saying that they have 2 and 3 Xbox 360's in their homes.
creatchee  +   339d ago
@stuna1

"Because a large amount of people didn't want to wait for their consoles to be repaired, especially if a high profile game had come out, like say "Call of Duty"! So most opted to buy brand new consoles."

I have heard people spouting this off for years and its ridiculous. First of all, there is absolutely no documentation to support this claim - only anecdotal "evidence" that comes mostly from the pro-Sony people. If anybody has any published proof of this "buying because I can't wait for a replacement" phenomenon, I'd love to see it.

Secondly, if people are so desperate to play a video game that they can't wait 1-2 weeks for the replacement program to do its thing, then we live in very sad times indeed. There are books to read and flowers to smell and women to kiss. And, if you are that hardcore of a gamer, you probably already have another console to play. I know because I played my PS3 during my second RROD.
ShwankyShpanky  +   338d ago
Go on over to the official Xbox forums and read about the "pro-Sony" people buying RRoD replacements.
creatchee  +   338d ago
@ShwankyShpanky

Anybody can create an Xbox forums account.

Also I didn't say that it didn't happen - I said that it was a rumor propagated MOSTLY by the pro-Sony crowd. I've seen numerous posts of people trying to add 10 million or more sales to the 360 total because of these impatient rebuyers. It's bull, plain and simple.
TheRealHeisenberg  +   338d ago
@ stuna1

I have three PS3s in my house. Does your "logic" apply there as well?
stuna1  +   338d ago
Just because you! The ones who replied to my comment didn't take that route, doesn't mean no one took that route! Was there concrete documentation of RROD for the Xbox 360.in the beginning? No! It actually took the government to step in before Microsoft owned up to the issues! And yes theres documentation to the facts! If people want to walk through life with blindfolds on, fingers in their ears, singing the smurf song, it still doesn't change cold hard facts.

EDIT: It's also a known fact that those cncerned about their K/D ratios would have no problem investing in another Xbox 360. Especially if squad members could pass them up! What cracks me up is the fact that Microsoft incompetence can be blaim on Sony supporters, did they somehow create the RROD? Talk about Jedi mind tricks.
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Ninjews  +   338d ago
@creatchee there is no hard evidence to dispel the claim either. I don't really know what kind of "hard" evidence Someone will be able to provide this they bought another 360, because theirs rrod and they couldn't wait for their replacement. Remember common sense does not apply to gamers. In my experience gamers well do anything to get their fix, especially for one specific game they have been looking forward to.
Hicken  +   338d ago
RROD wasn't "discovered." It was known. The damn consoles were dying days after release.

Does it have to be said AGAIN that it took a year and a half before MS started covering the RROD? From November 2005 to July 2007, any system that died was replaced at the consumer's expense, NOT Microsoft's. July 5th was when MS acknowledge the problem and extended the warranty to 3 years. And it was during this time that the failure rate of ~54% was recorded.

And yes, even then, quite a few people bought backups, so they could play while their main system was being repaired.
Chevalier  +   338d ago
I sold plenty of replacement 360's in my store so yeah it happened a lot. Peoples systems did die after getting replaced as well it's not infinite for the coverage. But what do I know I only work at the busiest EB in my city for over 6 years.

As for xbox one equaling ps4 by November, while it isn't impossible I would say based on such low xbox one allocations I would say it is extremely unlikely. Currently my ps4 preorders are about 241 units and Sony just opened up day one to us again whereas our xbox one preorders are at 39 units and I haven't had a new preorder in a week, in that time we sold a dozen ps4. Our smallest store has well over 100 ps4 preorders and there are 9 stores here. It will take 3 weeks to sellout of our remaining xbox one units remaining and you'd be surprised how little units I am talking about for our district as a whole, that is how slow it has been on preorders. So if there's another article about Microsoft blowing preorder numbers at Gamestop I will laugh.

Although our MS rep did say that they had to change design last minute since the design for DRM was literally built to the hardware. That to me is not a good thing.
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Septic  +   339d ago
It's not going to happen.

Does the X1 have to match the PS4 though? The difference in specs doesn't appear to be that startling (at this stage anyway. The console is fine as it is.
stevehyphen  +   339d ago
They are both fine consoles. They both ended up a lot more similar than I would have expected and wanted if you had asked me a year ago.
People fighting over the specs is getting old. People fighting over sales is getting old.

The fanboys out there fervently trying to "convert" others to their "side" are just like the Mormons or Jehovah's Witnesses showing up at my door. I can do my own critical thinking, thanks.
Foxgod  +   339d ago
They already match, theres a 5% difference between the two at best.
There will even be situations at which the X1 may perform better, such as AI and physics heavy situations.

Some people act like comparing the X1 to the ps4, is like comparing an I5 to an I7, which is over stretched.
Both the X1 and Ps4 are of the same class, theres has never been a generation before with two competitors releasing hardware with such similar specs.
pacostacos  +   339d ago
idk why people think the difference is huge a lot of devs have been coming out of the woods saying the difference isnt that much and that theyre pretty much close to each other in power
B-radical  +   339d ago
We have already seen such good things from both consoles i believe xbox one so far has shown its on par with ps4.

How long will it take for ps4 to slip away from xbox one graphically?
Foxgod  +   339d ago
Wont happen, how many exclusives where actually able to run 30fps Full hd on the ps3? not too many, 99% of them where 30 fps and 720p.

Same with 360 games, they where 720p and 30 fps, both consoles could not do better.
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Nekroo91  +   339d ago
i have no idea since when a difference between 1.3 tflops to 1.8 on the ps4. 32 rops vs 16 on the xbox, 1152 sharders cores vs 768 on the xbox and 25gigapixels/sec vs 12 on the xbox is a 5% between the two at best. LOL
ah and not to mention the ddr3 vs gddr5...overall its a 20% power difference in multiplatform games...not 50% like some fanboys think but 20% something is still something
XabiDaChosenOne  +   339d ago
If you truly believe that the difference is only 5% while having knowledge of both consoles respective specs than you failed elementary math miserable. Stop damage controlling and accept the facts.
Pope_Kaz_Hirai_II  +   338d ago
Foxgod you on crack son.
McScroggz  +   338d ago
I would truly love for you to try and explain to me how there is "a 5% difference between the two at best."

Actually, instead of answering that I'd prefer to know why you constantly spread misinformation?
fOrlOnhOpe57  +   339d ago
No. I think the specs are more or less finalised before the respective launch dates.
I think MS would be asking for trouble if they try to push for any further performance improvement.
I will be so glad so all this ' mines bigger than yours' crap can have a rest.
Foxgod  +   339d ago
I would like to see it rest too, its redicilous that people bicker about specs when it comes to consoles.

At best it means your bragging that yours is one nanometer bigger, considering that if you wanna brag about specs, you better be ready to spend a 2000 euro minumum on those bragging rights.
PlayTheGameBro  +   339d ago
Still getting One.
jatakk  +   338d ago
Me too, I've already preordered mine on the microsoft store!

Those who want to pretend the PS4 has so much more power than the XboxONE, can listen to John Carmack's keynote at QuakeCon: http://n4g.com/news/1324237...

I'd rather listen to him than any other 'knowitall' here on N4G!

Happy gaming!
xReDeMpTiOnx  +   339d ago
Ok seriously this whole spec talk is like gouge my eyes out with a wooden spoon.

Xbox fans need to accept that on (paper) the ps4 specs most defiantly out class the x1 specs that's just a FACT

But Sony fans need to understand it is also going to come down alot on how the devlopers utilize what they are given, but in saying that Sony first party devs have been able to prove what they can do given that they worked on a much harder ps3 architecture and were able to show true ps3 power late in the games cycle but those games like last of us and uncharted 2 heavily beat any 360 games graphically and technically.
Foxgod  +   339d ago
Actually, Sony fans need to accept that on paper the ps4 doesnt outclass it at all.
The ps4 stays slightly ahead at best.

An I7 outclasses and I5, but both the Ps4 and the X1 are I5's, in terms of performance.
With the Ps4 being an I5 with a higher clock, but theres not way that the Ps4 performs an entire class higher.
xReDeMpTiOnx  +   339d ago
No where did I say it was an entire class higher.

They are both using customized chips, but simply on paper the ps4 is over 20% more powerful which is a good margin.

DF tried to recreate the specs as closely as possible and even gave the X1 the benchmark of matching the write speed of the ps4 with the esram and x1 still came out over 20% less powerful. The article is somewhere on n4g.

No matter how you try spinning it, ps4 on paper (if you don't understand what on paper means that's your fault) has better specs than x1.

It seems like you are worried about specs so much and don't want to come to grasp that x1 is underpowered compared to ps4. It's not that big of a deal both systems will have great looking games. It's not known which will have better in the future tho.
Foxgod  +   339d ago
You said yourself that x1 fans need to accept that on paper the [ps4 outclasses it.....

20% is nothing.
That translated to 5fps more.

The difference between an entire class (for example I5 vs I7) is more then a 150%.
Logical, as an I7 is easily twice as expensive.
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Nekroo91  +   339d ago
well the xbox uses a 7750 performance wize wich is a low quality gpu the ps4 uses a 7870 medium
but the diference is 10fps . but about the grpahics we wont see any difference except in 1º party games. the cpu is the same but the other components are more powerfull so stop talking about the cpu
Rhythmattic  +   338d ago
I think everyone needs to stand back here and wait for confirmed specs as at this point it is all speculation regarding performance.

Both machines have heavily modified PC architectures that in the end, benefit each.

Lets all wait and let the games do the talking...
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JBSleek  +   339d ago
Hardcore Games: Specs vs Price
Average Consumer: Features vs Price
fractured74  +   339d ago
Great another trolling article.
chrissx  +   339d ago
IMO both consoles are going to be ok. xbone will do ok in u.s as expected,but Ps4 will win the global war. Aint no stopping that.
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JBSleek  +   339d ago
If MS markets this correctly it could easily dominate.
thetruthx1  +   339d ago
I think Microsoft are very satisfied with the power of the X1

And Microsoft's engineers wouldn't give Sony that big of an advantage they're too smart

Carmack made his prediction on the xbox one winning based on tiled resources

There won't be a huge performance gap games like Dead Rising 3 and Forza compared to Infamous and Driveclub already prove this
1lawrence  +   339d ago
Forget carmack tell him make another good game before I take him serious stop living in the pass I don't have a genesis anymore so until he makes something crazy again I'm not payi g attention I know he smart but I've seen way better games this gen then rage
deadie  +   339d ago
Earliest november 2017 - with new hardware and the disastrous reveal of 2013 as a reminder of how not to do it.
JBSleek  +   339d ago
The average consumer which MS wants doesn't give a damn about any of what just happened.

Oh I could get a PS4 or Xbox One... Well I can talk to my Xbox One and TV and all these other stuff I'll get that one instead.

That's the thought process not DRM which they won't know what that means
Mikeyy  +   338d ago
You've obviously never worked retail if that is how you think the public will view this.

The public does know about the DRM, thanks to Gamestop, and the public Doesnt know about the DRM reversal.

The XB1 has a terrible image with the public, if you didnt dwell in your basement you would know.

Ask yourself, how many xbox 360 freinds are getting PS4? Now ask how many PS3 freinds are getting XB1?

I have yet to read a single story about a PS3 gamer switching to XB1.

Microsoft hemmoraged its userbase bigtime at the reveal, and when the last gen was as close as it was, MS couldnt afford to lose any of them. it was over before it started.
Cherchez La Ghost  +   339d ago
Fact is this. There have been so much rhetoric and blogger fueling fanboys for months now about both systems. Credit is given where credit is due. "IN MY OPINION", MS had a great presentation of "GAMEPLAY" of games at E3. They did less talking and more presentation they ever did in the past several years. Don Mattrick being an ass towards the Xbox fanbase and the PR DRM timebomb that exploded has left a scar on MS. I think this is a changing point for the company.

I don't like some of the things that MS has done, but I won't hold a grudge and keep beoitching against them (like most here in N4G). Neither of us (except for Dev's) have these systems. You have 20+ blogs with "Specs" and people jumping on bandwagons stating the X1 is "inferior". You have to give both systems at least 2 years to see what they can do. Yes, MS bumped the clock speed up. That's what companies do! You optimize your product to peak performance. I give credit to MS on trying to get on the right track with Dev's and their fanbase.

P.S. I cannot take these articles seriously no more. Look what this dude stated...

"Without Don Mattrick, the former head of Microsoft’s Xbox unit, it may be an extra steep struggle to make the Xbox One look like a strong competitor for the PS4".

???!!! I'm done...!!!
Mikeyy  +   338d ago
Why OC the hardware if the cloud was supposed to supply 600% of the power?
Red_Devilz  +   339d ago
53MHz at a time.
sAVAge_bEaST  +   339d ago
What about the _1nf1n1te pwar of teh clowd?_
Whitey2k  +   339d ago
N the funny part is sony could change the hardware aswell
KontryBoy706  +   339d ago
I think it's a sign of defeat that Microsoft has to play "catch up" to the PS4. The fact they are doing overclocking, not by much, and changing graphic drivers is a sign of them scrambling.
gnothe1  +   339d ago
You say MS is playing CATCH UP is a sign of defeat...lmao..wow...well what about sony playing CATCH UP on all the online features that the 360 had over the PS3 that sony is JUST NOW doing with the PS4.is that a sign of defeat for sony aswell?
TrollCraftTales  +   339d ago
What are all the online features M$ Had that Sony didn't... cross game chat? That's about it... And then there is M$. Just now getting BluRay. Now everything Sony announces for Ps4. M$ announces a nerfed version...
Mikeyy  +   338d ago
Besides cross game chat, I still fail to see how our Call of Duty experiences differed?

The flipping game developer made the same UI's and features for both versions, how did LIVE make your experience that much better?

both are p2p garbage laggfests.

(and don't lie to me because I have access to both)
KontryBoy706  +   338d ago
gnothe1... MS has been playing catch up since the 360. Yes the 360 did revolutionize console online gaming. How about this though.

Microsoft played catch up to the PS3 with 360 by
Adding HDMI
Adding WiFi
Increasing the HD
Adding 1080p support (yes they did that via patch after HDMI in 2006 look it up)
Making a black console (trying to look like PS3)
Adding Cloud services to xbox 360 (Sony did it first with PS+)
Blu-Ray with the XB1
Now giving away monthly free games with XBL Gold (like PS+)

It goes on and on. The only "feature" Sony is adding that MS had is cross game chat. Other than that the services were pretty much on par. Like Mikeyy said... what was better on 360 what could it do the PS3 couldn't besides cross game chat?
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josephayal  +   339d ago
PS4 seems to be way ahead of Xbox One
Urzusix  +   339d ago
love how people say that the PS3 was more powerful and look what happen, but the PS3 used the cell process that was not the standard CPU map, making it much harder to program for compared the to 360 CPU. Where at the PS4 uses a standard CPU this negativing that issue
TrollCraftTales  +   339d ago
Well it was more powerful. That's why you see games like The Last Of Us on PS4 and no games as prettyon Xbox. The problem with the Ps3 is that it was too complex, and no one could unlock the true potential of the Ps3 till now. With the Ps4 it is both 10x more powerful than Ps3, and it is less complex, now we will see The Last Of Us much earlier, which means we will see much better games later on after TLOF comes out, pretty much what I am saying is games will get better faster...
Mikeyy  +   338d ago
The CELL was much more capable, but as it's widely known, Many developers couldnt grasp the complexity of it. It was needlessly difficult, and Sony also gimped itself with the split RAM in the PS3, again making it very difficult to work with.

Thats why 3rd parties stuggled with PS3.

Speaking of RAM, looks like MS is making that same Mistake with the XB1. Don't be surprised when 3rd parties get lazy with XB1 ports and don't bother with the crucial esram. If that RAM doesnt get utilized properly the XB1 will suffer.

This Gen Sony decided to make the console as easy as possible to develop for, and threw in the strongest hardware of the 3 to boot.

I can't see where the PS4 can possibly go wrong, and should edge out all the graphical comparisons this gen. There isnt a single bottleneck thats below the XB1's capabilities.
FrigidDARKNESS  +   339d ago
It don't need to match the ps4 it has already passed it.
Mikeyy  +   338d ago
Based on what exactly?
Jamaicangmr  +   338d ago
Come on man you gotta stop this. You're better than this. Unless you are doing it to get a rise out of folks then by all means continue.
ZHZ90  +   338d ago
Just accept that PS4 is more powerful & easier to make for it than for Xbone.
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reko  +   338d ago
@frigid

say what?
Kryptix  +   338d ago
I'm guessing Microsoft sent you a super secret VCR tape showing off the cloud for special folks like you. It was all words about how it will make the Xbox One 3 times more powerful and a big word saying "Believe!" flashed once in 60 second intervals. Now you're here to spread the message like you just saw Jesus on a Doritos chip and it's worth a lot of money. And that's how Microsoft supporters back up the cloud and try to justify it, on a bunch of nonsense.
deadie  +   338d ago
behold stupidity in its purest form
KYU2130  +   339d ago
FrigidDARKNESS...Its still to early to say that. You can't really base sales on just pre-orders alone.

Right now this is a popularity contest. And MS is calling themselves the All in one entertainment console. WEll i want a gaming console first. MS is also declaring themselves the next-gen winner before the gen even starts, a little premature i think: dont you.

my point is just wait and see.

i eventaully plan on owning both so dont scream fanboy at me. I currently own both the ps3 and the 360. guess which gets used more. neither. the kids use the 360 and i use the ps4
isarai  +   339d ago
too late to start changing any hardware specs now, even the recent slight change was just slightly upclocking what hardware was already there. so yeah PS4 is still going to have the hardware advantage. that being said we have not seen that necessarily translate into any difference so any graphics whores who want to jump on the "graphically superior" train is going to have to wait till we get the final games in our hands and on our consoles to actually see if that makes a difference. I personally don't care all too much, for exclusives? yeah it matters, but for the most part multiplatform games never really do anything drastically different between the consoles no matter the power so as long as it plays them i don't really care.
Bolts  +   339d ago
They will both be grossly outdated in two years so any advantage one have over the other is pointless as 4K starts making in roads into the TV markets.
isarai  +   339d ago
both support 4k, though not for gaming, but it takes one hell of a PC to even do 4k gaming and even then the settings have to be turned down. Gaming as a while is not quite ready for 4k. Also it doesn't really matter how fast a console is outdated, it can still provide amazing experiences, hell look at this gen, games releasing now are still great looking, if you seen Far Cry 3 running on consoles back in 2006 everyone would be calling bullshit, same goes for GTA V. Given the familiar architecture next gen i'd say it's going to be even progression better down the road
S2Killinit  +   339d ago
you can have the most powerful PC imaginable, but your games will play only slightly better than the most recent consoles. The exclusives on those said consoles would play just as well or maybe arguably better than those on PC (because of the extra effort and attention to detail). This is a fact, every console generation opens up graphical leaps on PC which are slightly better than those on the consoles. In other words the utilization of the power of PCs is held back by that of consoles. So I have to disagree with you when you say extra power in a console "wont matter."
TrollCraftTales  +   339d ago
They could match Xbox to Ps4 in value if they somehow raise the specs by November and get more system selling games... but I will still be buying a Ps4 because of the PR disaster and the kinect... I am sorry Xbox Fans, but I do not trust M$. I do not care about the exclusives they have, I am much more excited about the games Sony could do than what M$ could... and I hate the current kinect with all my heart, it just doesnt work, and now its.MANDITORY! You can't say it is improved because you havnt played any games on it yet, until I hear it is the best thing ever I am going to base it off of kinect 1.0 which is horrible... For me Xbox is out of the question... PS4 this November hands down....
MxRBrobaFett  +   339d ago
Lol why is this still a thing? Buy the console you want and stop worrying so much about the differences. "My cars window rolls down .4 seconds faster than yours does"
Kita2950  +   339d ago
Haha, these days to have over 200 comments on your article, all you need to write as headline is "PS4 VS XBOX ONE".
LOL!!!!!!!
corvusmd  +   339d ago
It already has. XB1 is already showing it's a superior machine. Yes I KNOW that the GPU in the PS4 is more powerful, and that the RAM is faster, but if you ONLY look at that you're being ignorant and only seeing what you want to see. XB1 was designed differently than PS4...different does not equal worse. If you just look at those two specs on paper, then OF COURSE you'd think that PS4 is hugely more powerful...however there is a lot more going on here. PS4 relies on it's RAM to do ALL of it's heavy lifting, XB1 does not....Sound for the XB1 will be done on a separate high tech sound card that won't rely on RAM (Yes the PS4 has a sound card...duh, but it relies on RAM to process it), XB1 has an ESRAM chip that help with the movement of data that the PS4 does not have, YES the XB1 will also benefit from the Cloud computing (at first this will mostly help lighting and AI, but as internet becomes faster it will do even more...and being as the machine was designed to work this way, Sony will NEVER catch up on this area) and this will also relieve the console of the full burden of processing games (by roughly 20%...which seems to be a huge number when PS fanboys talk about it), more important than ANY of those stats MS has proven that is has found better ways to utilize their console with 100% customized GPU driver tested by developers and exclusive use of DX 11.1 and 11.2 which apparently means games like BF4 will look better on XB1. So you can start to see that PS4 NEEDS that extra power to keep up with XB1, not the other way around. We can talk about this on paper/in writing all day long, but really we just have to actually look at the games. To me the best comparison is Killzone vs BF4...because it gives every advantage to Killzone. Killzone was first shown on PC just like BF4, but since then when showed on consoles, Killzone runs at 25-30 fps (meaning it should look amazing due to all that freed up processing) is in SP mode, with very little particle effects on screen, maybe a little placed fire or blowing sheets, and Killzone was designed specifically for PS4. BF4 is cross gen/cross-platform runs at 60 fps with 64 player in MP mode...when playing on the XB1 console with DX 11.1 it looks just as good if not better with destructive environments and many more particle effects going off (that aren't scripted) than Killzone does. The proof is right there, and PS4 had every advantage...not to mention that Killzone is supposed to be PS4's graphic masterpiece. Not like it's being compared to Forza 5 or Ryse.
corvusmd  +   339d ago
*sorry ran out of room.

Most games on XB1 run at 60fps no problem, most games on PS4 are struggling to reach that benchmark. SO something isn't right here, with PS4 being more "powerful". I know I know PS fanboys will say, but Killzone isn't finished yet, well all these games are launch games so they all release at the same time....except BF4 which will release earlier because it's on other consoles as well.

However, more important than all of that, since both consoles perform so similarly is which games do you like better, and what kind of online experience do you want. I prefer XB1 exclusives by far (only the Order on PS4 interests me), for me and the kinds of games I play (MP/MMO/Sandbox) XBL will greatly help those games play better. From my standpoint NOT choosing an XB1 would be stupid...but to each their own...either way we are all getting spoiled as gamers this gen.

http://www.respawn.com/news...
http://www.digitaltrends.co...
http://www.gameranx.com/upd...
http://www.info-pc.info/201...
http://www.bit-tech.net/new...
neoMAXMLC  +   338d ago
Uhh... maybe the reason why most PS4 games run at 30FPS is because they are more graphically demanding?

TitanFall, not a very next gen looking game. 60FPS is expected coming from ex Infinity Ward members.
Forza, a racing game that's BEEN running at 60FPS since last gen.
Killer Instinct, A fighting game. Need I say more?

Everything else on the Xbox One that is actually pushing the system seem to be struggling to maintain 30FPS as well. IE Ryse and Dead Rising 3.
DigitalRaptor  +   338d ago
neoMAXMLC nailed that specific point.

And corvusmd, what you are saying is that we should all have to rely on our Internet connectivity for XB1 if we want to have an experience on par with PS4's out-of the-box performance?
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EXVirtual  +   338d ago
Whoa, whoa, whoa, wait. The cloud? Really? Your still on that? And BTW, Dice never said that it will run better on the XB1 and that GMNX and GMN is also superior to DX11.1 but has access to the PS4 hardware making it better? And I really hope you realize that MS was using high end PCs at E3.
I'm getting sick of you fanboys damage controlling. Accept the facts. And @Foxgod, 5%? Lol. Just admit it. The PS4 is more powerful and easier to develop for.
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S2Killinit  +   339d ago
There is no way they will have a console as powerful as PS4 at this point. xbone will be underpowered (in comparison) they can try and make the best of it though.
Akuma2K  +   338d ago
And the Xbone damage control continues, give it a rest already.....lol
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Rhinoceros  +   338d ago
John Carmack says

"I pity tha fool who talks about spec superiority!"
Akuma2K  +   338d ago
Lmaooooo....good one...bubbles for you.
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