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Submitted by CaptainofCrush 575d ago | opinion piece

Xbox One success vs. PS4 failure, justification attempted

InEntertainment: "Regardless of Microsoft’s U-turn over the used games and always-on restrictions, we get the impression from many gamers that the PS4 is just about edging it in the battle of the next-gen consoles. But one blogger is trying to justify why the Xbox One might beat the Sony PS4 when it comes to wining over the masses.

As we look into reasons why this perspective has arose, it’s worth mentioning that the reversal of Microsoft’s anti-consumer DRM policies concerning the Xbox One has evened up the score, as the PS4 seemed liked a much more attractive proposition prior to this. Highlighting a few reasons why the Xbox One could accumulate more custom Beta News discusses how Microsoft’s playing the long game with a system that is not only a games machine but also a family entertainment theatre.

They acknowledge hardware specs alone will not be a deciding factor when it comes to the Xbox One vs. PS4 war." (PS4, Xbox One)

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jujubee88   575d ago | Off topic | show | Replies(1)
Septic  +   575d ago | Well said
Really, it depends on what experience you're after. Both consoles look impressive and whilst MS has really struggled with a lot of flak that it received with the X1, the console itself is turning out to be an impressive piece of kit.

For me, the user interface and online elements are the key decision. It is what made me, and my friends pick the X1 as the primary gaming device at this stage. Things like Skype intergration, Twitch TV support and promise of dedicated servers are attractive to us. MS has a much better track record in the online game space as far as we're concerned.

But, the thing is, Sony appear to have learnt from their mistakes and their UI and online features might even surpass that of the X1 so that's something we need to see. Hopefully we can get a hands-on at Gamescom.

But the console race is quite competitive, contrary to what many are trying to depict.

Thinking of this as Xbox One success vs PS4 failure and vice versa, is just two dimensional. It doesn't really serve any purpose.
christrules0041  +   575d ago
I think the competition is great. It pushed Microsoft to get dedicated servers for stuff like Titanfalls servers. It also pushed for Microsoft for exclusives and Sony is pushing for exclusives as well. They are both also pushing Indie developers as well. It doesn't matter what console someone picks up it will always benefit them having competition.

Fanboys that want to whipe off a company off the planet can't understand this logic though.

Before anyone says Microsoft has the cloud I said dedicated servers because the cloud is remote computers that do calculations over the internet... Just like the cloud(That last paragraph wasn't point at you. Some people get pissed though) LOL
Clarence  +   575d ago
I agree with you as a far as the Xbox live interface goes. I like how fast live moves through different screen. The PSN is not as fast and the interface needs a change. With that said I prefer the Playstation over the Xbox.

My reason is games and better hardware. Live will not help the Xbox 1 beat the PS4. Plus with the PSN network you get free quality games. After I finished gears 3 I canceled my live subscription.
_FantasmA_  +   574d ago
Same here. After Gears 3, I just decided that paying the full price of a game a year to play one game was a ripoff. I only wish I would have seen that I was being ripped/raped off back in 2006-2007. I could have saved so much money and gotten a fat PS3 or even 2 PS3s. All that money spent on Live and I have nothing to show for it. Still, I switched to the right console and its better late than never. I'm here to stay and I'm never going back!
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Bennibop  +   574d ago
Nobody has used the latest incarnations of PSN or Live. Live could be a slow juddery mess for all we know. We all know sony makes better hardware we will have to wait to see what the online services handle like!
n4rc  +   575d ago
Well said..

My circle of gaming friends feel the same
iMixMasTer872   574d ago | Spam
slampunk  +   574d ago
@Septic

Great comment mate......
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iMixMasTer872   574d ago | Spam
badz149  +   574d ago
what a stupid article! clearly fishing for hits trying to promote the Xbone! what is the PS4's failure? and what is the Xbone's success? if it's otherwise, I can think of many but the way the article trying to imply it...really hard to come out with any point!
showtimefolks  +   574d ago
both will succeed overall, i don't think we will ever see a gen where ps2 dominated and other 2 barely survived. This gen the way it looks like ps4 will end up selling a lot followed bu xbox one than wii-u will be a very very distant 3rd

ps4's price point alone is gonna make it sell like hot cakes for first year or so, and when MS drops the price let's say $100 which i don't see them doing within 12 months, sony can drop it another $50

This is the best way i can put it,

PS4 has to loose them gen for MS to win, its all in ps4's corner.
Kr155  +   574d ago | Well said
I think we are starting to see Microsofts huge viral marketing push here on N4G.
mechlord  +   574d ago
very well said and thats good for you.
Me myself i prefer the PS4, as ive had the PS3 and didnt miss a thing. One thing people tend to forget (and i think SONY is kinda counting on this happening) is Gaikai. If everything else hadnt convinced me, i would buy the Ps4 just because of this feature....which no one really knows exactly how it will play out :)
avengers1978  +   574d ago
PS4 has been, and continues to be a success. I'm not sure what failure there talking about, it's pre order numbers are great, it has a lot of positive momentum going into launch.
XB1 has done well since there policy changes.

All anyone can say right now is that both consoles are doing well in pre orders going into launch. But neither is a success or failure yet... That knowledge will come a few years down the road. If one has 30 million sold and the other 5 million sold a few years from now then you can say what one is a failure. But if they both sell around 80 million like this gen, then both are a success. It is possible for both to be successful.
danswayuk  +   575d ago | Intelligent
I'm still going PS4
Kayant  +   575d ago
Same I want a new experience this gen and more variety of games (less shooters) and more value in online and PS+ offerers that. I still need to get a PS3 at some point also can't miss the gems there ;). I joined this gen pretty late :(.
schlanz  +   574d ago
Sony has shown a continued commitment to gamers by producing the most games and providing the best value for their subscription model. Compared to what MS has done, regarding increasing the value of their subscription service and providing exclusive first party content, any gamer should be able to clearly come to the conclusion that Sony is a game company that won't abandon the core gamer.
HugoDrax  +   574d ago
I'm still going PS4 & XB1 & Wii U next gen. I already own the latter and I never play it lol. Which makes me think how often will I play my Wii U once I pickup both PS4 & XB1 at launch.

Here's hoping the consoles release 2 to 3 weeks apart so that I can enjoy RYSE,Dead Rising 3, and Forza before I get to enjoy Killzone, and Watch Dogs or vice versa.

Can you imagine the chaos if both consoles released on the same day? Hahaha PANDEMONIUM! Speaking of Pandemonium, that reminds me of the game that i completed from PS1 days hahaha!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...
TheTwelve  +   575d ago | Intelligent
Sales-wise it won't be close. PS4 will own worldwide this gen.

This doesn't mean that the WiiU or the X1 won't be good consoles in themselves over time. Sony just has too many good things going for them right now all at once and at the right time.

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JBSleek  +   575d ago
I think they may gain a sizable lead in the beginning but to think Microsoft is going to sit for seven years and allow Sony to kill it in sales for that long seems unlikely.
aiBreeze  +   575d ago
Thing is though, Xbox 360 was way in front of the ps3 at one point but the ps3 won the overall console sales. The other big difference I see is that I don't see any ps3 owners turning to the Xbox One while I personally know a ton moving from Xbox to PS as they feel betrayed by Microsoft/prefer the cheaper option.

I wouldn't count Microsoft out by no means but I think they still have quite an uphill battle.
wishingW3L  +   575d ago
they did it with the Xbox 360, that's why the PS3 is at 80 millions while the X360 is at 78 or something. No matter what they do they will never win Japan and most of Europe will continue to be PlayStation like always.

And now without a year head-start the Xbox One will not be able to cash-in on North American sales like the X360 did to compensate for the lack of World Wide sales compared to the PS3 either. The XB1 is at a disadvantage on every front, and not to mention that its price it $100 higher too.
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JBSleek  +   575d ago
"Thing is though, Xbox 360 was way in front of the ps3 at one point but the ps3 won the overall console sales. "

So is it possible that those roles reverse and now that MS has their back against the walls they reverse the roles?

"No matter what they do they will never win Japan and most of Europe will continue to be PlayStation like always."

Europe is also a big place for MS as well actually I believe that MS sells more in Europe than Sony does. Japan is Sony but that is to be expected.

Look I'm not saying that MS will outperform but it takes your back against the wall for you to really come out and perform. Sony didn't come back out of the kindness of their hearts...MS pushed them into a corner and forced them to compete. We could be looking at the exact same thing this year.
XabiDaChosenOne  +   574d ago
They did it with the PS2, they "sat there" and allowed the PS3 to overtake it in sales and guess what? They are going to sit there and watch it happen again.

#deal with it
" I believe that MS sells more in Europe than Sony does. Japan is Sony but that is to be expected."
You can sit here and fantasize but it holds no weight against documented historical sales figures.
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Kryptix  +   574d ago
@JB
I'm not into the whole, sales define something thing but...

Worldwide Sales
PS1: 104 million
vs
N64: 32.9 million

PS2: 157 million
vs
Xbox: 24.6 million

PS3: 78.4 million
vs
Xbox 360: 78 million

The Playstation brand holds the most weight out of the big 3 worldwide. See how Sony slipping up on the PS3 still gained it more sales than the 360? Also Microsoft had a 1 year advantage and the PS3 still caught up. Wonder how much Microsoft slipping up on the Xbox One has cost them. Now that Sony and MS are both releasing a console in the same year, I really don't think the Xbox One will outsell the PS4.
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koolaid251  +   574d ago
I think that the xbox 2 will release before the ps5 if the ps4 outsells them this gen I also believe that this will be a short gen like we use to have when we got new consoles every 5 to 6 years remember those days?
n4rc  +   575d ago
Just because I feel like pointing out the obvious and love dislikes..

You forget the ps3 was bought by many simply because it was a bluray player. Ps4 doesn't have that huge bonus this time around..

Looking at ps3 (or 360 for that matter) sales is irrelevant to this gen
ShwankyShpanky  +   574d ago
That may have been true initially, but the PS3 maintained sales strength long after lower-priced BluRay altertives were available.
McScroggz  +   574d ago
Yeah, but at the time Blu-rays weren't the dominant format either. Certainly the PS3 gained sales through being a cheap Blu-ray, but it's unlikely it was a significant edge early on.
Ju  +   574d ago
PS4 is still $100 cheaper, offers pretty much everything the XBone does and is the better (faster) of the two (money for value).
filipakos  +   574d ago
At least it served as a blu-ray player not tv controller
Rimeskeem  +   575d ago
Although this is true I hope that the Xbox one can keep selling and I really want it but money is tight so I was I my able to get one and that was the PS4
swerve121  +   574d ago
Sorry bro things change and fast. All it takes is a slip up by Sony and boom everyone will go with M$ or Nintendo. And you have to think can Sony handle the demand? Cause if people want the next gen system and the X1 is there and the PS4 is not there gonna spend that money on the X1.
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AceBlazer13  +   574d ago
i think sony has been dealing with hardware long enough to meet demand. ms on the other hand they're another story.
Jeff257  +   574d ago
Sony had their slip up already. It was called the PS3 launch. They were extremely arrogant about what people would do to buy one at the high price they wanted for it. Even with that and the lead Microsoft had the 360 is still behind in hardware sales and for the last few years in exclusive games. People were yelling that Sony was doomed and that they had no games. But they turned it all around to again show gamers why they are the best choice. I still don't understand why people want Sony to fail so badly though. They have had their missteps but they have shown with each system they have produced that they know what gamers want while constantly adding more to each generation.

I'm not saying I want Microsoft to fail but they showed people what they had planned and it backfired. Unfortunately for them they also don't have the stellar track record for how they support a system with games over the entire generation. They do great at the start and then fizzle out by the end. They have said they created more studios to finally bring out more and better games. But so far we haven't seen anything from them. Maybe they can finally do better. But until they actually show a reason to trust them many people just won't.
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mechlord  +   574d ago
@swerve121
" Sorry bro things change and fast. All it takes is a slip up by Sony and boom everyone will go with M$ or Nintendo."
I think your logic is flawed. Its not like people will overnight ditch their consoles and g buy another...it would need to be an astronomical blunder (i cant think of something at that level considering we had the RRods and the PSN hacks - events on both camps and people didnt significantly switched consoles)

"And you have to think can Sony handle the demand? "
I think any of the two can handle the demand. they are planning for it, you can see the preorder frenzy going on, so they have solid data on which to plan. Plus, at least Sony, has been releasing hardware for eons now, so i think they can handle their stuff.

" Cause if people want the next gen system and the X1 is there and the PS4 is not there gonna spend that money on the X1. "

I think this will happen the most after the first year or the first 6 months...remember, initially those that will buy the systems are people well informed that know what they want. If i set my eyes on the X1, im not gonna buy a Ps4 just because... or vice versa
Avernus  +   575d ago
Oh gawd... another fanboy bait article. Is there anything worth reading anymore?! I can't wait for these consoles to come out so these "PS4 vs XBOX 1" articles will disappear for a while.
GodGinrai  +   575d ago
man..when they release its gonna get worse! lol

On a side note, I would like to suggest that all fanboys meet up at Brighton beach for a big melee.

Xbox fan:" these PS fanboys fink their well 'ard..you wanna have a barney, then, boys?"

PS fan: "dont you give it, all that lemon, sunshine!..caaam on then!..I`ll faakin 'ave ya!"
Heisenburger  +   575d ago
Idk what i just read, but I guessed and went with a Scottish accent.

Was I correct?
SniperControl  +   574d ago
Huh, Brighton beach in the UK right?

Surely it shoud be "Cooey darling!" While mincing down the beach
"O-M-G! Is that bitch wearing a green tank top with those trousers"
"Fabulous!"

Before anyone gets confused, Brighton is the gay capital of the UK.
Lol
GodGinrai  +   574d ago
@Heisenburger. No its more of an east london "cockney" accent

@SniperControl

I take it you never seen quadrophenia....
iMixMasTer872   574d ago | Spam
sly-Famous  +   575d ago
BLU-RAY!!!!!! GAME SET AND MATCH SONY!!!!!!!
Dlacy13g  +   575d ago
Man you know its a slow news time when we see article after article like this one and countless others comparing & listing "their" reasons. Gamescom can't come fast enough so we have some real news to discuss.
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Avernus  +   575d ago
plus more "PS4 vs XBOX 1" articles comparing what they saw at Gamescom :D
aiBreeze  +   575d ago
*facepalm*

I don't know what's worse, the fact there will be loads more PS4 vs X1 articles or the fact I'm going to look forward to the inevitable drama that they bring.
Magnus  +   575d ago
Ultimately besides online features and what PSN has to offer and what XBL has to offer. It ultimately comes down to the games that both companies have to offer for first party exclusives. And how those first party studios use hardware to its potential. Anybody can predict which console may come out on top and that prediction maybe right or wrong. Right now as it stands I am going PS4 because Sony has some great studios to back them up like Naughty Dog, Gurilla, Sucker Punch. Just to name a few studios which have produced games that are fun to play.
koolaid251  +   574d ago
I just need madden, Nba 2k14 and Call of duty and I'm good lol.
mechlord  +   574d ago
I dunno about yall, but i got some backlog that im planing on clearing via Gaikai...so, its an easy pick for me.
Roper316  +   575d ago
problem is the same scumbag company is behind the product and it's just a matter of time before they start trying to put all the BS back in via updates & new TOS's.
PositiveEmotions  +   575d ago
The difference in xbl and psn.

Psn = free with wifi.

Xbl = $9.99 with wifi.

Psn plus less than $5.

So imo the psn/ps+ is still better than xbl when it comes to prices.

As for features well the xbox is faster but they both do the job right regardless.
shibster88  +   575d ago
I cant wait for my ps4, just how the hole system looks and just the features it will have, and get driveclub free with psn and
Games like planet side 2 that you can download for free and play online for free work out psn,now would xbox ever do that............ ?answer is no they would not, ms is all about take take and take amd give nothing back,but some xbox fanboys would say they changed all the drm for the gamers lol....nope again for the money. But I do how xbox sells loads of consoles so sorry getting money from Ms for the blue ray lol as song own the rights. ...... see ms using song gear wow just shows who's boss hay,ps4 nation♥♥♥♥♡♡♡♡♡
hazardman  +   575d ago
Its not Sony gear! And Microsoft's VC-1 codec is in Blu ray, one of the best codecs on the format. Do some research......
Pancit_Canton  +   575d ago
Congrats Xbone you win lifetime season pass of COD AI fish, Mocap Dog and unlocked Achievement: Don Mattrick is laughing all the way to the bank. Xbox fans in the other hand wins nothing.
Apocalypse Shadow  +   575d ago
it seems rather simple on what company and system should win next gen.and what company should lose.competition is good only if one is offering something equal or better than the other.this has never been the case.

to put it bluntly,microsoft are hella greedy.and they show and have shown poor support.

microsoft abandoned the original xbox community and basically asked you to get a 360 or get no more games.they release the vision cam but abandon it in favor of kinect.kinect is being abandoned in favor of the new kinect.xbox 360 is being abandoned becuase most of xbox one titles used to be 360 titles.

this is besides,the knowingly selling a faulty system,all the price gouging,the points system,the proprietary hdds,the ridiculous wifi adapter price,the paying for online,the lack of value for paying but get ads when it should be silver users getting ads.this company has billions to throw at the gaming industry but it DOESN'T.microsoft throws it in a way that the gamer really gets nothing.but they get billions more.then for next gen,they wanted to stick it to gamers without any LUBE.and some gamers are saying THEY DESERVE SUPPORT???

really?......REALLY???

sony has done more for the gamer for years.putting what's NEEDED in the systems they sell so that it can last.they offered it at a discount and lost money on sell it.they spend LESS on ADVERTISING but more on core games.which is why they have been getting GOTY nominations.microsoft has received NONE since sony dropped it's bombs.sony offered free online gaming.and there were fools who laughed at that.now they are laughing at getting free games to play and discounts.they laugh at giving $50 but getting back $200.

sony still supported ps1.still supported ps2.and are still supporting psp and ps3.they still will support ps move as it can be used next gen.headsets can be used next gen without adapters.

seriously....who should be winning and getting more support from gamers???especially after all that DRM bullsh......
gano  +   574d ago
This cat legend here.
i think some did notice the screw over, but marketing is prob doing it's job.
Confusion.
robotgargoyle  +   574d ago
I'll admit MS has done some questionable things,but abandoning the original xbox was a smart move. The 360 helped pave the road for this generation. What was the point of supporting the original xbox when I wasn't widely successful? Sony continued to support ps1 and ps2 because they were pure profit after exceeding their goals. It's a no brainer business move.

The failure rates, proprietary hds, expensive wi-fi adaptor were awful. They lost alot of support for sure.

Xbox One was made for a world reluctant to change. I still want physical media that I can do what I want with, but Gamestop likes to rape customer's wallets. The friends/ family list was a unique and could have worked if people were not so bull headed. You still could share your games as ling as you logged into your account on your friend's xbox one. They could access your library from cloud and play as long as you wasn't playing game.

So far, things are back to normal. Just remember, 3rd party games could still end up with DRM. On xboxone, on PS4. Both said it was up to the publishers. So, it could change back for xbox1 or happen to ps4 users too. At least I'll b ready.
Chevalier  +   574d ago
Why would any publisher let 1 person buy and 9 others play it for free? That would put companies out of business! Anyone that thinks this would happen is dreaming.
ZBlacktt  +   575d ago
People tired of this stories yet? I know I am... I don't even read them anymore.
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baraka007  +   575d ago
yeah no one wants to talk about gaming.. These weirdos and their hate have scared everyone away and now it's just fighting on all the gaming sites. Someone needs to make a gaming website and moderate it so we can go back to talking like civilized normal people.
ZBlacktt  +   575d ago
Totally agree, when did it all become about BS and not playing video games? Let people buy what they want to buy and not made to feel bad about it.
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gano  +   574d ago
Simple.
Bring back open zone.
Truth is not everyone agrees fully on all games.
Singleplayer with 2p was enough to an extent.
But if double dragon was better then battletoads,
and we cant agree, lets have fun in the open zone.

The truth will come out.
But n4g went pg on us.
Otoshigamisama  +   575d ago
I always ask myself this question when I see articles like this Does it even matter? As long as it does its role well then I'd buy it heck I'd buy both as long as it plays the most important role in gaming PLAY GAMES! that is all
ZBlacktt  +   575d ago
It's like so much drama that is SO not necessary. It's like a turn off from the hobby.
solidworm  +   575d ago
Coming 2nd is no bad thing and thats something Microsoft will have to accept this gen
hazardman  +   575d ago
Thats what i dont get. Why cant it just be products finding their own niche within the game industry there is plenty of room and $$$ to be made by all sides.

Most people think Iphone is the best #1 phone in world. But I prefer Samsung Galaxy and even my Droid Razr M over it! It might be wrong analogy but maybe you understand what im saying...
AceofStaves  +   575d ago
I'm sure MS will do well in the domestic market (at least initially), given that XBox has a sizeable fanbase, but digital licensing agreements prevent its entertainment-focused features from being usable outside the U.S. Couple that with PS4's lower price, and I think Sony will dominate globally.
fsydow1  +   575d ago
Who wants to watch TV on a xbox, or skype. I want to freaking play core games and not play shovel ware kinect crap. The Microcrap fanboys are out in full force after microsoft tried to force their Drm and always online ,spying kinect on the gaming world. Now these fanboys want to justify it all, sorry buddy but something is smelling rotten which must be the shit inside every xbone. Sony was the savior of gamers around the world with no DRM. if sony was not involved in gaming ,microsoft would have gotten away with all there crap,SONY ALL THE WAY!!!!
ShinnokDrako  +   575d ago
Uhm... well... ok... still getting a PS4, thanks.
paracardium  +   574d ago
Ps4 for sure...never buy a xbox180
Monkeyonfire13  +   574d ago
XBone would Only win if Sony didn't release the Ps4....
PS3PWNSALL  +   574d ago
Xbox One, Day One!
christocolus  +   574d ago
I'm lookin forward to Rare's games (kameo 2,Perfct dark,Battle toads,BanjoKazoie,ConKer esp), Gears of war or anyother thing frm epic , halo 5, pgr xbox 1 and crackdown. If it wouldn't be too much to ask then ill add blue dragon2 and lost odysee2 and yes project milo and phantom dust 2 to the list. ms pls pls make this happen....they just keep coming..Age of mythology xbox 1 would be great.
ZHZ90  +   574d ago
PS4 is a failure uuummmm ok... You know what?

I am still getting PS4. ;)
Tatsuya  +   574d ago
Flamebait article is dumb. I'm still getting a PS4. There's absolutely nothing that Xbone have/will have that is going to impress me.
e-p-ayeaH  +   574d ago
PS4 is simply better all around but some just cant accept that so they make blogs and articles.
jensen86  +   574d ago
i fink sum ones been smokin crack or sumfing cos there forgetin the ps4s a hundred dollars cheaper and the fact its 50% more powerfull plus all the extra stuff and most importantly its sony rather than shitty microsoft
IaussieGamer  +   574d ago
Geez these troll articles are coming now lol.
REDAVUTSTUVADER  +   574d ago
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BONAIRE 7790 V PITCAIRN 7850
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as we know many websites are saying XB1 Is using an HD 7790 Bonaire and that PS4 uses a 7850 Pitcarn. What they fail to mention is the 7790 is more powerful than the 7850 according to chart on
http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...
it also states
the 7850 Pitcarn had 2gb of ram against 7790 Bonaire 1gb of ram the bonaire out performs it with less ram and stream processors.

GFLOPS
128 BUS 7790 896 stream cores 1,792 GFLOP
256 BUS 7850 1024 usable stream cores 1,761 GFLOP
The 7790 Bonaire (march 2013)was released after the 7850 Pitcairn (march 2012)causing the Pitcairn to be discontinued.
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Radeon HD 7800
Codenamed Pitcairn, the Radeon HD 7800 series was formally unveiled on March 5, 2012, with retail availability from March 19, 2012. Products include the Radeon HD 7870 and Radeon HD 7850. The Radeon HD 7870 features 1280 usable stream cores, whereas the Radeon HD 7850 has 1024 usable stream cores. Both cards are equipped with 2 GB GDDR5 memory and manufactured on TSMC's 28 nm process.[11]
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Radeon HD 7700
Codenamed Cape Verde, the Radeon HD 7700 series was released on February 15, 2012. Products include the Radeon HD 7770 GHz Edition and Radeon HD 7750. The Radeon HD 7770 GHz Edition features 640 stream cores based on the GCN architecture, whereas the Radeon HD 7750 has has only 512 usable stream cores. Both cards are equipped with 1 GB GDDR5 memory and manufactured in 28 nm. On March 22, 2013 another card, Radeon HD 7790, was introduced in this series. This card is based on the Bonaire architecture, featuring 896 stream cores based on GCN 1.1 technology, an incremental update of GCN. After the introduction the Radeon HD 7790, AMD discontinued the Radeon HD 7850.

Now though I believe XB1 is based off Kaveri, it's just funny to see all over the web it seems none of these journalist or tech sites know that the 7790 Bonaire is a year newer and the replacement for the 7850 Pitcarn
REDAVUTSTUVADER  +   574d ago
Why XB1 is most likely a Kaveri based APU
Digital Foudry as well as many other sites claim PS4 IS AN HD 7850 PITCARN AND THE XBOX ONE IS A 7790 BONAIRE. They are basing XB1 ones off of MS tech guy stating it has 768 op/sec , That gpu cannot produce The XB1 E3 showing of graphic power. These tech sites must know that. THE BEST contender for XB1 GPU is AMD's NEXT GEN Kaveri GCN 2.0 HSA HUMA APU.

AMD's Kaveri APU is the base roadmap for M$ Chipset.
It's AMD' next gen APU
It uses DDR3 still
It's 768sp at the specialty high end range
It's in the 100 watt range like XB1
It's capable of fulfilling Kinects 2.0 feature set.
It uses steamroller dual thread cores
Its over 1 tflop
768SP HSA HUMA GCN 2.0 AT 12SC ON XB1 KAVERI BASED GPU IS MORE POWERFUL THAN 1,152sp ON PS4 NON HSA GCN 1.1

768SP IS ASPECIALTY HIGHEND VERSION OF KAVERI (XB1 IS 768SP COINCIDENCE?)
http://wccftech.com/amd-kav...

AMD'S FIRST HSA APU IS KAVERI
http://us.hardware.info/new...

AMD HSA HAS KINECT FEATURES
http://www.youtube.com/watc...

video
http://www.theinquirer.net/...

ON the other hand PS4 is not HSA this is why DEV's told Digital foundry

"Behind the scenes, developers have suggested to us that we shouldn't jump to conclusions about the extent of the PlayStation 4's superiority, and that the 50 per cent boost in GPU power emphatically won't result in a likewise boost to in-game performance."
DF stated this in paragraph 2 of
http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...
the title even say's IN THEORY. XBOX 1 AT HOTCHIPS 2013 should blow PS4 dinosaur tech out of the water. At Hot Chips: A Symposium on High Performance Chips ( http://www.hotchips.org/ ) Microsoft will display it's new breakthrough technology in the XBOX 1 in a presentation
Tue 8/27 after 5 P.M.
XBOX One Silicon John Sell and Pat O’Connor
see at http://www.hotchips.org/
M$'s Gpu is future AMD TECH BASED
SONY stated in their
" Sony Management Discusses Q1 2013 Results -Earnings Call Transcript "
PS4 is all existing Off the shelf TECHNOLOGY
( http://seekingalpha.com/art... )

This is why Microsoft's Albert Penello stated,
"Given the rumored specs for both systems, can anyone conceive of a circumstance or decision one platform
holder could make, where despite the theoretical performance benchmarks of the components, the box that
appears “weaker” could actually be more powerful?"
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swerve121  +   574d ago
And that how you back up your statements bro with pure facts
REDAVUTSTUVADER  +   574d ago
Thank you swerve121, glad someone else can see through the subjective tabloid media circus.
gamer2013  +   574d ago
:)
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robotgargoyle  +   574d ago
I hope you are right. The Sony fans are drunk on their own Kool Aid and need to be knocked down a peg. You can't declare a winner before the battle/ war has begun.
Metfanant  +   574d ago
WOW the original BetaNews article is biased...WOW WOW WOW...

but thats the place that tried to convince everyone that HD-DVD was going to beat out Blu-ray...right up until that bitter CES press announcement regarding some big studios going Blu-ray exclusive a few years back...
robotgargoyle  +   574d ago
I honestly didn't see Blurays winning, but they did. If u look at their (Sony) past formats, (betamax, mini discs, umds) you'd be hard pressed to believe bluray would have taken off. Sony notoriously backed the wrong horse repeatedly before scoring with bluray. As long media isn't proprietary to one device, we all win. I enjoy my bluray player immensely!
Metfanant  +   574d ago
My point was simply that BetaNews was waving the HD-DVD flag and proclaiming blu-ray's demise even when any normal person could see the writing on the wall...

Studios had started going blu-ray exclusive...the sales numbers were lopsided...etc...yet BetaNews was still yapping on about how HD-DVD was going to win...

Their bias was EXTREME...I still remember reading the comments section over there when the last major studios announced bluray exclusivity at CES...it was, interesting to say the least
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