Submitted by Rchillis 798d ago | opinion piece

BioShock Infinite is Perfect; The Last of Us is Better

GamR Mag Writes: "It seems as if every time a console generation begins to dwindle into oblivion, and the hype for fancy new products are on the cusp of everyone’s mind, there will always be a game or two that really stretches the limitations of the current hardware. It is no surprise as developers become more familiar with the hardware, they begin to have more confidence to explore different avenues of creation and really push the boundaries of the platforms for which they create. This has never been truer than with this console generation." (BioShock: Infinite, Culture, The Last Of Us)

chestnut1122  +   798d ago
Yup. Although I love Bioshock, Naughty Dog's The Last of Us is truly a masterpiece :)
dboyc310  +   798d ago
I think the reason that people connect more with The Last of Us is simply because of how much depth the main characters have and the struggles that they're going through. But I will say that Bioshock had those moments where you did sympathize for Elizabeth. For example the part where she's dancing at the beach is just magical and also the area where she sings while Booker plays the guitar. Both games are great though and truly deserve the props they get.
dboyc310  +   798d ago
"This is a new age; an age where video games can do the very same things that books can do, that movies can do. They can really evoke passion, discussion and a mindful lucidity that they were never originally created to do. The Last of Us is a testament, a beacon of relevance that the gaming industry is something that can be, and should be, embraced by all."

I slap anyone in the face when they tell me that gaming is for kids. God how I love to be a gamer for that same reason the writer said of how far games have come narrative wise.
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ANIALATOR136  +   797d ago
completely agree
AirJohnston  +   797d ago
That scene where Booker plays the guitar while Elizabeth sings and feeds that homeless kid is one of the best scenes in the entire game
allgamespc2012  +   797d ago
or just because this is N4G and its full of sony ffanboys.
allgamespc2012  +   797d ago
Elimin8  +   797d ago
So TLoU is Perfect'er?
showtimefolks  +   798d ago
Bioshock is very good but no way even close to last of us, now the first bioshock you can say maybe one of the better games of this gen

Infinite was a huge let down

Room after room of combat
Once you found your favorite power that's what you stuck with
Handyman were cool idea but when they show up in every combat arena room they sort of over stay their welcome and th initial shock value
The ghost boss
The end boss

Both tedious and sometimes frustrating

Elizabeth can open tears such a cool idea yet never got anywhere during gameplay

The character development wasn't as good

Also the moment you start fight all the people who usually populated the world disappear

Don't get me wrong it's a sold 8/10 but the promise of infinite was so much while I felt like the end product under delivered maybe it was over promised to begin with

Borderlands 2
Bioshock infinite

2 of my most hyped games yet both didn't live up to its original and both published by 2K(2K one of the best publisher thought give credit where it's due)

To each their own but for me personally bioshock infinite doesn't even come close to last of us, while original bioshock is still a lot better than infinite for me
plmkoh  +   798d ago
Bioshock Inifine actually brought the series to an all time low. You only have to look at the Vigor (plasmids) and weapon system. Why can you equip all your Vigors but yet only carry two weapons. The weapon system is made even more regressive by having you lose your expensive upgrades just by dumping them, which you have to eventually due to set-pieces contexts and insufficent ammo.

You only have to watch this video to understand the long lists of flaws (which are not small nitpicks) (WARNING CONTAINS SPOILERS) http://www.youtube.com/watc...

I'm not a hater of the Bioshock series, in fact I bought Bioshock 1 + 2 + infinite premium limited editions and also a copy of System shock 2, in my opinion Bioshock Infinite did not understand whether it was an action RPG FPS hybrid or just a action FPS.
showtimefolks  +   798d ago

I agree man that 2 weapon system was just a head scratching decision by th development team

I agree that in a way the game didn't have it's own identity, in a way it was trying to live up to the original bioshock which was like system shock but at the end of the day it's was a good FPS that gaming media over Hyped

Also the rails throughout the city sound great but when you have to deal with that throughout t wasn't as much fun for me at least
NukaCola  +   797d ago
My biggest issues with Infinite are the lack of exploration and 90% of the secret areas where with lock picking. I loved the metroidvania style of exploring in Rapture. I wish you could revisit Columbia as you progressed.
Salooh  +   797d ago
Story is great but i had a lot more fun with dishonored in gameplay side.

The only game that come close to the last of us is MGS4 . Both are mature and use logic and reason in the game...
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RedHawkX  +   797d ago
The last of us is just amazing. a must play experience.
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ArchangelMike  +   797d ago
Bioshock Infinite is a very good game, but nowhere as good as TLOU.
starchild  +   797d ago
I like both games equally. Superb.
Relientk77  +   798d ago
Both these games are incredibly amazing
McScroggz  +   798d ago
Don't get me wrong, I absolutely love BioShock: Infinite, but it is absolutely not perfect. While I cannot say it is factually imperfect, it is clearly and objectively imperfect.
JunioRS101  +   798d ago
Bioshock Infinite was definitely not perfect, it was great. A little better than great even, but not perfect.

The middle of the story was very stretched out and bland, running back and forth to tie together parts of the story, which left me uninterested in the middle part of the plot.

Haven't played the last of us, but I've heard the story, and I think it's a pretty good one.

I wish I still had my ps3 because I would have definitely bought it.
FlunkinMonkey  +   798d ago
Completely agree.. The middle section was utterly boring with infinite. The beginning and end made up for the story aspect.

The gameplay was a massive disappointment for me with infinite too (coming from some one who loved the original Bioshock.. It was dumbed down beyond belief, the upgrade system was lacking substantially, and the 2 weapon system (that works for a lot of games) just didn't work for me - where were my visible upgrades on weapons?!

The setting for me just wasn't as enticing as Rapture for me, but it was still fantastic, and was my game of the year until The Last of Us reared it's head..

In my eyes i can't see anything remotely competing with it for Game of the Year.
JunioRS101  +   798d ago
Absolutely. And I felt that they veered more toward "typical fps" than the "classic bioshock" feel of the weapons...

They just played it too safe. They were afraid to make it too ambitious, too different... Never realizing that that's what made the first two games great in the first place.
Gigaguy777  +   798d ago
Ugh, Bioshock Infinite was amazing, The Last of Us was boring and poorly designed. Granted Bioshock had dull points too, but at least it did what it did well. Survival horror/action and yet I have a surplus of supplies at all times? This isn't Dead Space 3 guys.
Lovable  +   798d ago
I completely disagree. Playing the game in survival says otherwise, but whatever. Talking to someone who hasn't played the game will make no difference. :)
NeoTribe  +   798d ago
Poorly designed lol... if last of us is poorly designed than there has never been a well designed game. As for you having to much ammo and supply, try playing on hard plus.
xPhearR3dx  +   798d ago
Bioshock Infinite wasn't even amazing. It was a good game. Not great, not amazing, just good. Don't play a survival game on easy and then complain you have supplies. People like you are "scared" per say, to play on a higher difficulty because you think it will be too hard or "unfair".
Hicken  +   798d ago
Surplus? Yeah, right.
Boring? Get real.

You can always tell when somebody's just trolling for the sake of being different.
Picnic  +   797d ago
If you have a surplus of supplies in The Last of Us it'll be because you've been scavenging in between fights. You fulfilled your duty in helping yourself to stand more chances of 'survival'. If you didn't pick up anything, a) why are you playing the game not to try to be a survivor? and b) you would have found it harder.
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SnotyTheRocket  +   797d ago
Play on the hardest difficulty. I had 4 bullets for about 3 hours.
BlaqMagiq24  +   797d ago
If you had a surplus of supplies at all times then you weren't playing The Last of Us.
Cheese_rawl  +   797d ago
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Zodiac  +   798d ago
Not the best choice of words for a title when talking about degrees of quality.
SIRHC13  +   798d ago
Bioshock is not perfect by any means. Sorry, but the gameplay simply felt subpar.
bumnut  +   797d ago
First BioShock was amazing, infinite was boring.
SnotyTheRocket  +   797d ago
Why does everyone here not like Bioshock infinite anymore? When it came out, everyone was all like "OMGWTFBBQ BIOSHOCK IS OUT! ITS AWESOME" Now everyone doesn't like it. It's an awesome game.
ginsunuva  +   797d ago
Not it was just a massive disappointment.

3 skyline areas total, boring enemies, subpar gunplay and out-of-place vigor system, and practically no story until the last 10 minutes.

All those pre-launch demoes were scripted lies that were never in the game.
SIRHC13  +   797d ago
Calm yourself, I really liked the atmosphere, but the gameplay didn't do it for me by the game's end.

Doesn't mean I 'dislike' it. It's just flawed.
starchild  +   797d ago
It happens with any outstanding and successful game (or movie, or anything). First it is praised, then come the hipster morons that try to tear it down.
Hazmat13  +   798d ago
rule 34, rule 34 everywhere.
slimeybrainboy  +   797d ago
I thought rule 34 would be some n4g thing, like don't bash a game. I just googled 'rule 34' and clicked on the Bioshock link, I just saw the Elizabeth in a whooole new light. Holy shit.
chris13gt  +   798d ago
Bioshock 1 better from both games.
Harpers_Ferry  +   798d ago
The big problem with Bioshock Infinite is that it felt like it was trapped in the "Bioshock style" of gameplay, which I personally found to be an uncomfortable fit for the rest of the game. Of course, Infinite wasn't going to get that kind of budget without the Bioshock name, along with everything that comes with it.

Both games are great though, so it's a good year to be a gamer.
MikeyDucati1  +   797d ago
Give me a break already with the bowing down to TLOU and Bioshock gods already. Pull it away from your mouth...
Totoro17  +   797d ago
Go play some Call of Duty.
MikeyDucati1  +   797d ago
I don't play COD you moron.
Hicken  +   797d ago
You're tired of people talking about the two games, so you go into an article to complain?

That makes sense.
MikeyDucati1  +   797d ago
Another idiot.

So riddle me this, brainchild. Is their some way that N4G can allow you to block some article submissions that you don't like?

So riddle me this, brainchild. You effectively do what you try to ridicule me for?

So riddle me this, brainchild. What is it with the internet cookie cutter responses and the logic behind, "if you don't like something, don't say anything about it, just ignore it for it to go away". If I slap you two times, do you think I would go away if you just ignored me?

Yea...that makes sense.
Hicken  +   797d ago
Oh, feel free to keep commenting about it; won't change anything.

But you SHOULD expect some restrictions for the personal attacks.

Brainchild, really? Riddle me this? Geez, that's lame.

In any case, nobody is forcing you to read, click on, or otherwise interact with these articles. It's a bit different from the example you give, as that's something that's directly affecting me. It's not something I can avoid.

You, on the other hand, CAN avoid reading anything about these games you don't like. But you don't. You could avoid commenting. But you don't.

That other people praise these games doesn't make them idiots. That we don't understand why you'd want to spend your time around something you can't stand doesn't make US morons.

You need to be asking yourself what's going on, and whose intelligence needs to be questioned, if you're actively seeking out things you hate.
MikeyDucati1  +   797d ago
LOL at that first line because the same can be said to you.

So let me get this straight, I should receive personal attacks because I am an individual that knows what I like and what I don't?

Nobody is forcing you to read, click on, or otherwise reply to my comments.

And I didn't say people praising the games are idiots. You idiot.

How could you be so dumb to think I actually said that when my words, unedited and there to see, doesn't say so?

I called you an idiot because you responded like one.

How are you an idiot? You tell me to just avoid and ignore the article if I don't like it...yet, you comment on my opinion that you don't like.

Riddle me that batman. You deserve to be called an idiot.
_FantasmA_  +   797d ago
Shhh! I'm playing through Bioshock Infinite right now stop spoiling it for me guys :(
RandomDude655  +   797d ago
You have a gun and shoot things....in a first person viewpoint. Sorry Bro
oIITSBIIo  +   797d ago
Bioshock is great . TLOU is crap .
Cam977  +   797d ago
You're a PC gamer.
Fail troll.
starchild  +   797d ago
No, they are both amazing games.

I'm a PC gamer, but The Last of Us is a fantastic game and it makes me glad I also have a PS3.
slampunk  +   797d ago
Loved both games.....the end.

Why does there always need to be a winner?
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ghostrider32  +   797d ago
They're both great games. Seems like considering multiple games equally enjoyable is severely frowned upon here.
ANIALATOR136  +   797d ago
Both games are amazing. For me the artstyle will always bring me back to bioshock infinite. Truth be told I prefer Liz to Ellie and that Songbird summon pipe organ still sends a shiver of excitement down my spine. I just can't really put into words why I prefer Infinite. I guess it just has a brilliant story albeit some stunted gameplay mechanics. The last of us is absolutely brilliant to play though, it actually feels like a film at times. Animations and narrative are superb. But even after playing both through may times, infinite still holds a special place in my heart
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mochachino  +   797d ago
Bioshock Infinite is great but the gunplay is far from perfect
Ryder49  +   797d ago
The title really bugs me. This is just like people saying, "Aw man this game needs an 11/10". There's only a finite amount you can go.

Bioshock Infinite was my favorite of the two, but neither of them deserved a 10/10.
Blacklash93  +   797d ago
Christ, why does it matter? Why must people insist one pitting these two games against each other to the death?

And neither are perfect. I did like TLoU better, but I have my criticisms for both.
RIP_Cell  +   797d ago
people are still in the honeymoon phase with TLOU, let's wait a couple of more months, way over rated
Picnic  +   797d ago
Hear hear Rip Cell. Look at Resident Evil 4 - universal critic praise but now - any Resident Evil fan worth their salt tends to say that part 2 was the best.
I would still like to play Resident Evil 4 again because it is often a very good horror game. But it is far too cheesy sometimes hence why Devil May Cry was actually a spin off from early attempts at making RE4.
testsubject  +   797d ago
Both are amazing;GOTY worthy titles and should not be compared. Bioshock Infinite being a FPS and TLOU being a third-person survival horror game.
MikeyDucati1  +   797d ago
Bioshock Infinite was not perfect or great. But when you had too much wine (aka game hype) you're bound to overlook much.

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