Examiner: "Despite reports to the contrary, Microsoft does not have plans to reintroduce the Xbox One at an alleged press event."
Too bad... I think they need this. and there is no such thing as too many press conferences before a new generation.
I think they need this because so much has changed from the original reveal that the console is unrecognisable. It isn't the same console it once was.
Gamescon and TGS are around the corner. I dont think they are sweating it too much. They can "re-introduce" it there. They dont need a dedicated conference. Nothing else major has changed since the DRM reversal. So some footnotes and side notes at Gamescon and TGS can cover it.
"My thoughts on this has changed a bit since then and that is we should still bundle the Kinect in every box but leave out the requirement of having it always plugged in. We provide the option to turn it off completely, and people are welcome to cover it up or turn it around as well. So letting people unplug the Kinect doesn't change our guarantee to game developers, plus we will get brownie points for making a consumer friendly choice. I think our execs know this. On the subject of including a headset, it's a matter if Microsoft will eat this cost and make the people who want the headset happy. Personally I want a headset as I don't want to hear my buddies' voices mixed with game audio." Xbox One Dev http://www.reddit.com/r/xbo... Their reintroduction won't be a conference but there will be announcements at gamescom. We already know they were planning to unveil self publishing. We know their 'looking into' including headsets. And the NSA scandals and Kinect are all the buzz. Don't be suprised to see these policies 180- at gamescom. I don't think MS honestly have much more to show in terms of games without saving something for the next 2 years, so I think their going to try and do a Sony E3 2013, and win gamescom with the strength of policy and goodwill. Kinect drop is a long shot, because he the quote does mention a 'promise to developers'. But if we lose the Kinect, there's a price drop and MS are right back in it.
honestly the need it because the majority of casual gamers aren't on websites like this and i still know a bunch of people who think they still are using the DRM restrictions...
They need to keep at it. At this point, XB1 is a mandatory kinect away from me considering it an eventual purchase (well, that and some decent games that actually appeal to me). From a hardware point alone, that's all that's holding me back. I refuse to have a spy cam in my home from a company known to freely give away info to the US government (or to snoop on that info themselves, remember the Skype controversy?). If they drop Kinect's requirement, and drop it's price, it'll be a much more attractive system and might actually have a chance of standing up to the PS4. As of now it's about to get destroyed though, unless those changes are made. They got rid of Don Mattrick though, so they're on the right path at least. Now if they can only keep the rest of the douchebags that represent them gagged, they'll do ok.
Why am I not surprised by this? because reintroducing the console would require Microsoft to admit they made a slew of bad decisions, and hold them accountable for it. A "reboot" of a new console is simply below Microsoft's bloated ego.
Doesn't this qualify as "clarification", rather than "confirmation".... Who writes this crap, anyways?
Still has asinine mandatory Kinect2 needing to be plugged in. Every one of Microsoft's products gives your information to the gov't and 3rd party corporate contractors. Why would Kinect2 be any different, especially when Microsoft itself plans to use such data. Why would Kinect2 be the ONLY product not to invade your privacy. At least 18 years of shredding your privacy and they have the gall to say your privacy is their priority. Hell Al-Qeada isn't the target, we're too busy arming, funding, training and shipping them off to fight in Syria, or awarding them gov't contracts in Afghanistan. YOU are the enemy. You WILL be exploited through it. Microsoft KNOWS every one of its product is used against it's customers. So WHY ARE THEY REQUIRING IT TO BE PLUGGED IN? It's a very simple equation. They know it will screw their customers over, and yet still require it. Also for those that don't understand nuance...requiring Kinect2 to be plugged in, isn't the same as packaging them in the box. Again what happens when Kinect2 has a problem like Kinect1 would have. You were able to unplug Kinect1 and still use your 360. Won't work with Xbox One. The requirement is so unnecessary it's like saying it's necessary to run a fire drill at every stoplight. (you know where everyone gets out of their car and runs around the car and gets back in) It's necessary, like that. Keep paying attention to Snowden's reveals, like XKeyScore.
it means ONE thing: other reversals will come in the future. I can feel that X1 they announced on may 21st will be back with all restrictions at some point, that's how i see it. now i hope X1 owners wont be owned by MS but things could turn that way.
Anyone who didnt hear the announcement that the DRM and always online had changed, either didn't hear the DRM announcemnt in the first place, wont see gamescom, or doesnt care. I think we overestimate the power of these PR stunts to us gamers. I don't think all this goodwill, and explaining the benefits, and giving a positive image etc. are not really a big deal in the grand scheme of things. I think most people don't care if they can't Play Octodad, or some other indie game, most people dont care about self publishing, yet us insiders act like they do. MS' real enemy is price, if they can reintroduce that the system will be exactly where they wanted, either that or change to 12GB RAM would be a real gamechanger.
So true. Not everyone goes out of their way to find news on games like we do.
While I agree with most of your point, the average person that you speak of will not know anything about 12GB of ram either. However us (the informed) would go ape shite!
The 12GB rumor is not a rumor. It only became a Rumor because people wanted it to become true. The origin of the 12GB rumor comes from the DevKits the developers received. The 12GB helps the developers relieve some of the stresses of development. It is really low that they would add more ram to a console considering it cost them a boat load of money when they did it with the 360. They went from 256gb to 512gb. Also if they did add the RAM they run the risk of adding more heat to the console. This is bad news because it could be the RROD all over again. I am sure and hope they learned from that mistake. Even if they do add the RAM it will still be slightly under powered. 1GB of DDR3 is equivalent to 512gb GDDR5. Also DDR3 is great for software process and stuff like that where GDDR5 is great for rendering polygons and stuff like that. If anything the DDR3 will make the xbox ones OS faster then that of the ps4.
Every news outlet in the world covered MS's DRM reversal, and that includes network TV.
"Even if they do add the RAM it will still be slightly under powered. 1GB of DDR3 is equivalent to 512gb GDDR5. Also DDR3 is great for software process and stuff like that where GDDR5 is great for rendering polygons and stuff like that. If anything the DDR3 will make the xbox ones OS faster then that of the ps4." This. Reintroducing One at a lower price would help, but they'd have to bring their RAM total past 12GB for it to be a game changer. 16GB DDR3+32MB ESRAM would be a game changer.
Yeah, it seems like Microsoft could win over many more people by just letting them know what their plans are now. I have to admit I am giving the Xone a closer look now because of the changes, if I don't have to buy the Kinect that would be a good thing too....
THEY DON'T NEED TO REINTRODUCE IT
Maybe not to the fanboys that spend their days on N4G hoping for good news but the public night.
@psvita I own all consoles, Im just tired of people hating on microsoft. If anything im a sony fanboy, hey there, sony fanboy.
Never assumed you were a fanboy I was more speaking about all of us nerds :) Anyways they do need to reintroduce it. Especially considering there's people out there that think ps4 games can be played on the ps3...not everyone is as up to date or educated like most of us that stay up on news.
Larry Hyrb should have been one of the first ones fired after the E3 debacle. He was a total douche, and still arrogant afterward. To this topic, he said "Not legitimate". That is total BS, MS has confirmed a press event with a one hour stage presentation. Solid sources have confirmed several devs have been contacted. So, the event isn't BS but the message is supposedly denied. The message of the proposed press conference would be for Microsoft to reiterate its core message behind the Xbox One, while also attempting to secure the console's footing in European territories. So, sticking to its "core message" isn't technically a reintroduction, but it seems to say they saw nothing wrong with their E3 presentation and will reinforce the core elements at Gamescom. This is sounding like a huge fiasco developing.
Everyone knows about the Gamescom presser. They were referring to a whole separate event to take the place of the original reveal. No problem there.
Oh please, then if they did that, the same idiots would be saying how desperate they are. MS, in the eyes in a lot of morons, are damned if they do, damned if they don't.
I agree. I see MS for they are and they are company just like Sony looking to make money. They derived a plan to maximize profits and it didn't work, so they removed it before releasing it to the public. PERIOD. Every company does this. Netflix did the same thing about a year and half ago, so I don't understand why people feel this is some new shit. They are releasing the X1 w/ Kinect and it reflects their price point just as Sony did when releasing a $600 PS3 8 years ago with BluRay and cell processing. Again, why are they not being held accountable and receiving a FREE PASS? Price an LG or Samsung TV against a Sony Viera and see what numbers you come up with
They dont need to do that at all. They just have to have better press conferences in the future.
The quote at the top of this page "Despite reports to the contrary, Microsoft does not have plans to reintroduce the Xbox One at an alleged press event" is misleading because it wasn't actually spoken by Microsoft. What actually happened was Major Nelson was asked about a if the story about a separate press event was legitimate and he replied "it is not" however the original story refers to their Gamescom Showcase.
@Mystogan - I don't think they need this. They have said enough about what you will expect come launch time. There's no policies to clarify and they have spoken about the why the Kinect is a pact-in, so the only thing they need to demonstrate now at GamesCom is the games just like Sony. We know we will be getting powerful systems and at what price, but what games are we getting to separate one from the other is the big question here. Most gamers will eventually buy both, but come launch time both need to SHOW US THE GAMES w/ actual gameplay
I think that a relaunch would defiantely help the situation. I don't see them getting ahead of the PS4 simply because of the price and power differences.
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O well. I did not expect them. Goodluck MS Although i would say it would serve them well. But hey..with their advertisement money pool. I am sure they will be fine.
Yeah they will be fine ultimately. I think it would be slightly confusing if they did reintroduce it. I mean most people when they hit rock bottom, they don't start digging. Just sayin...
Define fine. I too think they'll be fine, but I often think my idea of fine and others' are far apart. I'm thinking fine as in, will still sell a lot, but not as much as they're claiming to have sold of the 360. Which, to MS, may not be fine.
Wow, a rumor that actually got debunked lol. I'm just saying, there have been and were a lot of rumors lingering around that happened to be true most of the time this year.
Question: Can the CableBox1 play games? Yes. No. May be. We will look into it. It is more complex than it looks. Are you on the hardware design team? Wait. What? Yes. No. It could.... It may be... The amazing PR team at its best performance!
And "We can't just flip a switch..." you know what happens next lol
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And "Do you want to see the future"? That could have been the best punchline only until they had to eat their hats in not-too-distant future.
Fony will sell great...
If you truly believe the PS4 will be better than XB1 in your heart of hearts, you wouldn't spend so much time bashing XBOX One.
Hey they sticking with it an that's what their second best best see you Xbox two
Good! They've done enough damage. The last thing they need, is another idiot spokesperson speaking for MS. The nightmare that was Don Mattrick was a PR disaster. LOL
Major Nelson also said the DRM won't be removed hours before it was. I think Microsoft likes to leave him in the dark just for kicks. That being said, Cboat has also said they won't be removing the Kinect requirement or anything like that because it's essential for too many parts, so it's probably not happening.
Im glad they are not going to remove it i think its going to play a big part in the long run. Im not getting an xb1 as of yet, im still not convinced enough and this is coming from someone who was ready to buy it day one with a killer instinct launch. I want ms to do good but man have they changed a lot! Especialy their marketing wtf happened with that dept.?
Nothing happened with their marketing. Trust me, it's being marketed in places you have no interest in, thus being able to reach a broader audience. Soon it will show up on every talk show in America, probably even end up on QVC hahaha!
AuricGoldfinger, lol, I never thought about that. I might actually tune in to watch those chickens from the view try and use the thing :)
I wouldnt be suprised if 'miracuolously' they some how find the cure to cancer and are able to create a Kinect freee XB1 if the PS4 is selling like hot cakes next year. And if the XB1 is shifting the numbers they wnat, don't be suprised to see to see them say " we just can't solve it!"
I personally want them to keep the kinect and everything thats involved with it. It is the only thing (plus a few games) that helps differentiate it from the ps4. If they don't include it, developers might put it on the backburner. I don't know about you but I do not want two redundant gaming systems in my house, I want two maybe three (hi nintendo) separate gaming systems, that give me 2 or 3 (hello nintendo again) different gaming experiences.
Thats what i been trying to say mel! its like ppl want 2 ps4'! (bye nintendo) lol had to throw thst in it reminded me of the b.e.t cypher with slaughter house. I actualy like what kinect brings to the tabel and im not all scared about the government spying on me... Like really if your that damn scared then throw a shirt over it, throw out your cell phone, stay off the highway due to all the cameras. I guess you should just never leave your house cause if the gov. Wanted to spy on you they sure as hell dont need kinect to do it..
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Stupid just stupid... Wtf happened to ms marketing? All they want to do is twatter, instagram, and email shit... They cant seem to get off tgat leather rolling chair from behind the pc get in front of kinect and air all the pros on xb1. How the hell do you drop the ball that bad ms?!
Why does everyone keep saying what happened to their marketing? I was surprised to see it being marketed at the AMC theater last week when I watched Wolverine. Then I watched Pacific Rim and a PS4 commercial was shown hahaha! Although the PLAYSTATION commercial didn't show the console, while Microsofts add did.
We all know how the reveal turned out, very bad.. They need to clear ip a few things reafirm others and high light the major pros about the console.. Not put up posters.. You know how many ppl still dont know that ms removed the drm? Im sure that poster made no mention of it. Dont get me wrong they are getting better but some one needs to step up get away from twitter and all that other bs get on tv and relaunch the damn thing!
Bad move, if true. So many things have changed, and a lot of people still don't know how much has changed. Obviously, folks who visit gaming sites like we do will be in the know, but a lot of people who only get the information after it's trickled down will have made up their minds and not be privy to the new information. It would also be a good chance to reaffirm their dedication to games, and clarify their overall intentions with the device. This is all assuming, of course, that Microsoft knows what it is their intentions are. To be honest, it's hard to tell at times whether they do, indeed, know their own strategy for their device.
With as many preorders as the next-gen consoles have already gotten, I think it's safe to let the consoles speak for themselves at this point. If they are as good as their developers believe they are, people will continue to support them.
True... I would just love to see them realy redeem them selves from that mess. I realy want ms to win me back but if they no longer want to talk about it then i guess i will just have to keep up with the console via internet while i play and spend money on the ps4.. Ill say it a million times.. Wtf happened to ms marketing?
I don't think they plan to literally try and re-introduce the box... I mean, its out there... you can't really do that BUT I think they will do their best to paint a better picture of the Xbox One (figuratively re-introducing) that will differ a lot from what we saw at their reveal event and in many ways at E3.
I agree - I think it would nothing than a huge admittance to how bad the last few monthsnhave been for them, and how much they've had to reverse. (For being wrong) It would do little than highlight the shortcomings for those who don't already know about them. They're best bet is to move on, and continue to makes the policy changes they need to.
I do not think that they needed to re-introduce the console, while it sounds good, think about how stupid it would look once its actually done. "Ladies and gentlemen.......the xbox one, there is not longer any restriction on used games, and guess what, remember that 24 hour check in that we talked about a couple of months ago?......GONE". This would actually be a waste of time and money, and I just don't think it will be worth it. The best and smartest way for them to get this done is to announce and confirm all changes at gamescom.
They'll be just fine without it just show us more impressive GG's Like at E3 Graphics and Gameplay I still haven't seen at least 1 Ps4 game that I'd want :( sad face for Sony Lol
Since this is just you, it's not a universal feeling (and with more favoring the PS4, right now, you're even more in the minority).
Too bad, I think it would have done them some good. Oh well, there's always the next xbox in 5 years
There was No need to re-introduce the console it has picked up enough momentum to carry it thru the holidays and next year.
There are still people out there (People who don't keep up with gaming news) that still think the Xbone needs an always-online connection, and have anti-used game policies. So a re-introduction could do some good. But oh well..
Re-introducing the Xbox One could work very well in Microsoft's favor if there was an intelligent strategy in place which allowed for them to contrast the significant advantages of the Xbox One against the PS4. On this note, I am surprised Microsoft has not taken more advantage of offering developer video shorts discussing the hardware edge as well as videos which reveal exactly how the Xbox One user experience and gaming features offers more value over the PS4. This is something you see Sony effectively doing at every turn. If it's not a list of uber PS4 features from Playstation Access, you see more PS4 updates talking about this is free and the hardware enables us to do this and so on and of course PS+ is just relentless with its monthly offerings pushing the PS4 point further. If Microsoft is not going to reintroduce their next-gen hardware then they really need to start approaching their Xbox One marketing strategy more aggressively. This whole "we'll see you at launch" approach is truly hurting them.
PS4 will have a better games overall. so bitch please
I Disagree sorry! Each console will have good and bad games. Personally I prefer XB1 games and have yet to see anything on PS4 that has really caught my attention. Of course I may get a PS4 later down the road but for me right this moment XB1 has done a better job bringing games and features I'm excited about.
A reintroduction of the xbone would be like them saying they fucked up before so no I wasn't expecting a reintroduction from Microsoft.