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"We are Looking into lack of Headset in Xbox One Box" says Lead Planner

According to Albert Penello , The Lead planner for Xbox One, Xbox 360 and Kinect says that they are looking into the lack of headset in the Xbox One box (Tag Invalid, Xbox One)

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Insomnia_84  +   929d ago
Another 180? Keep them coming MS, your fanbase will thank you.
I'm still waiting for that mandatory kinect 180 to lower the price. Come on MS! Give it to me!!
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darthv72  +   929d ago
Kinect can stay, I like it on 360 and it will be better supported on the x1. As far as headsets go, wireless is always an option considering the controller lacks a direct input for wired ones.

on a side note, its like sony and Ms have changed sides. PS3 didnt have a wired headset port on the controller and now the ps4 does. 360 controller had a wired headset port and now the x1 does not.

Or going back to the xbox had a hdd built in and the ps2 did not (optional). then the ps3 came with a hdd built in and the 360 had a model that did not (optional).

Whats next next gen going to be like? What standard this gen (coming up) will be optional next next gen? And what option this gen (coming up) will be standard next next gen?
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Black-Helghast  +   929d ago
Most people I know IRL don't care about Kinect. They just want to play games with controllers and most of them are shifting to PS4 because of that. MS think they're doing good with this obligatory Kinect thing.. but they are so wrong. And I haven't seen these many 180's since I played Skate 3, its like the console is BEGGING you to buy it.
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andrewsqual  +   929d ago
They're looking into it. Sweet somebody must have let Microsoft know they left it out and they are now looking into it. I'll admit, I thought it would have been something they are aware of but its great to see them looking into it 3 months after the console reveal.
JohnnyBadfinger  +   928d ago
The Xbox one does have a direct input for a wired headset... By the looks of things it's a mini USB input not an auxiliary jack. It's located in the same spot as the 360 controller
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darthv72  +   928d ago
@johnny...thanks for that. i figured that usb was for charging the controller if you were using the recharge battery pack.
mewhy32  +   928d ago
This should be a no brainer. You have to include a headset with the box. That's just craziness. Put the stupid headset in the box micro$oft.
BISHOP-BRASIL  +   928d ago
I wouldn't say they switched places on headsets... Not at all.

Aside from bundling headsets or not, PS3 was pretty open for headsets (any bluetooth or USB would work) while 360 had a more restricted format (2.5mm audio jack, not proprietary, but not exactly common, fortunatelly the adaptors are common). On PS4 not only you can still use USB and Bluetooth headsets, you can also use the highly common 3.5mm jack. On Xbox One now you are completelly bound to a proprietary format (and whatever those allowed to make a headset decide should be the price).

As you can see, although you can argue Sony went for providing a headset while MS isn't anymore (or wasn't previously to this new), Sony had it easy on us to buy our own headsets for cheap even back when PS3 launched, while MS wasn't so easy. Now Sony went even more open, while MS completelly closed the system to their own format.
malokevi  +   928d ago
I'm looking forward to the X1 as well, Kinect included. Its a whole new playing field with guaranteed support and majorly improved hardware.

I wouldn't complain if they threw in a headset and dropped the price by 50 bucks... but at this point it doesn't make much of a difference to me.

I guarantee you will never see an SKU sans Kinect.
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JokesOnYou  +   928d ago
No X1 as designed NOW will not work without Kinect v2 if you think they are going to make a change that would require them to delay the console and go back and redesign the X1 at the OS/hardware level this late in the launch process then you are not paying attention.

"Xbox One Will Not Function Without Kinect Attached"

Personally Iam glad it was designed that way, it shows commitment to their vision and ensures real support in core games over the lifecycle of the X1 instead of "peripheral" support we've seen in the past across many other console platforms. 

The inclusion of Kinect is why the headset is not included however at least a cheap headset would be appreciated in every box or better for me would be that adapter so you can connect old 360 headsets and I will be able to use my Turtle Beaches.
abzdine  +   928d ago
now xbox fanboys must be so happy!
the fun thing is that they won't admit X1 is following PS4 footsteps.

PS4 is definitely the way to go and everything has been well thought from the beginning, no change in plans everything is as it has always been.
H0RSE  +   928d ago

The input on the new X1 controller, is proprietary dataport, meaning no input currently on the market, will fit into it. This has caused a lot of discussion in the realm of third party headsets, since this port effectively makes them all obsolete and useless - Astro, Razer, Turtle Beach, etc. all current headsets are not useable on the X1, for voice chat. However, there are talks going on about how to resolve this issue. The Xbox support team tweeted: (June 26, 2013)

"We are working to develop an adapter for current wired headsets to connect. More details as we approach launch."

As for wireless headsets: (June 27 2013)

"I'm afraid due to the new architecture in Xbox One, current wireless accessories will not be compatible."

I use an Astro mixamp with a Sennheiser headset, so I have been checking in on what Astro is saying, and here is a recent Mod post on their forums:

"We are working closely with Xbox to create the best ASTRO Audio System for that console. We are still going through our design process and other feedback behind closed doors so we have nothing to announce at the moment and we are taking our time to ensure it gives the best user experience to both home users and professional gamers. Because of this, I don't have anything to share regarding a date either.

Xbox Support on Twitter have announced they are working on an adapter which will allow you to connect Xbox 360 Headsets to the Xbox One controller. This should allow anyone with an A50 Wireless Headset, A40 Audio System or A30 Audio System to connect their equipment to the Xbox One Controller for voice chat. We're keeping an eye on their progress and will announce anything in the future regarding this.

- Mitchell"
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fossilfern  +   928d ago
I have an XB1 pre ordered but honestly I wouldnt stop them from making the kinect optional. Im hoping they announce it at gamecom but I dont thnink they will :/
Death  +   928d ago

I don't remember the PS1, PS2 or PS3 including a headset in the box. The Xbox and Xbox360 did. I'm pretty sure what you are saying is the XboxOne is following the PS4 following the Xbox360. The ability to use voice chat is still included with Kinect2. Some may prefer the optional headset. It's hard to tell until people actually use it.
fermcr  +   929d ago
Microsoft need to release a cheaper X1 (without Kinect, but with a headset) if they want to compete. A lot of Xbox fanboys aren't interested in Kinect.
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koolaid251  +   929d ago
I am I love technology.
andrewsqual  +   929d ago
@koolaid251 Well not a one single person gave a crap when they left the purple seal of death "Better with Kinect" off such Microsoft published titles like Halo 4 and Gears of War Judgement. Microsoft are terrified of their own device but it was okay to force people like Bioware to use it months before that. I'd say you are absolutely gutted you can't get Kinect Sports Rivals with your console in November too, oh wait, nobody on the planet is.
kreate  +   928d ago
Don't underestimate the xbox fanboys.

Xbox one will do fine in usa due to the xbox fanboys while it'll pretty much die in the rest of the world since Microsoft already gave up on the asian continent.
Kurt Russell  +   928d ago
I sense all the comments above referring to "xbox fanboys" are actually nerdy fanboys themselves... Especially as they're not even in response to a pro xbox comment :P
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Darrius Cole  +   928d ago

We may not all be fanboys or fangirls, but I'm pretty sure anybody posting on N4G qualifies as "nerd". That's you, me, and all the others.


I don't think we are getting a headset in the X180 box. To go back and add a headset now would add cost to a box that is already $100 more expensive than its more powerful competition. Adding a headset would take the price up over $500, which is something I am sure that MS wants to avoid like plague, because that would be plague. If they add the headset and the rechargeable battery pack like people are asking for then the price might end up being $550. No way Microsoft does that.
Gildarts  +   928d ago
no not kinect.
MWong  +   928d ago
Adding a headset or an adapter will help justify the $499 price tag. I don't think M$ is looking to reduce the price of the XBone. They should've went bluetooth.

PS4 doesn't have to include a headset since you can still use your headset from the PS3, but they do give you your standard earbud mic headset.
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dj3boud  +   928d ago
you guys want them to include a $25 peripheral with the already expensive $500 console? they will lose $25 for each console sold and MS do not want that i guess.
JunioRS101  +   928d ago
If they pull yet another 180 after this headset thing, that would make it 4 x 180...

Or in other words, Xbox 720.
Virus201  +   928d ago
How is it another 180? I don't get some of you people. The console is even out yet, and nothing is set it stone. If they decide to actually put in a headset (which I think they'll announce at GamesCom), some people will see that as a bad thing.

I don't understand some of you guys.
allformats   929d ago | Trolling | show
jizzyjones  +   929d ago
Whatever next, putting rechargeable batteries in controllers? maybe thats too much to ask
Heartnet  +   928d ago
especially since there is no need for it...

some people prefer built in lithium (or w.e) batteries but those battereies get less and less charge each tiem and then when its so low its eitehr a wired controler or u get a new one...

since ps4 people are all about choice i thought this would be a pro in x1 favour... use normal batteries and technially never run out of power or use rechargeable ones...
MRMagoo123  +   928d ago
I still use my original ps3 controllers with my original fat ps3 and the controllers still hold charge for about 4 to 5 hours minimum non stop play, so i dont get your point.
FlunkinMonkey  +   928d ago
haha! what? people prefer buying batteries?? seriously clutching at straws..
I've had my DS3 since launch and it works perfectly fine...

what are you on about..
Major_Glitch  +   928d ago
Wait what?! Are you serious?! "Some people prefer built in lithium"?! Who the f*** are these people?! People that WANT the pleasure of stopping their game session so they can drive to the store to buy batteries? Cell phones, laptops, toothbrushes, etc. all come with rechargeable batteri...oh nevermind. I'm obviously wasting my time with you.

OT: Jeez obviously have a fanbase. Take good care of them will ya? Don't limit what headsets they can use with their X1s!
1Victor  +   928d ago
Theheartnet You're Right And Have Your Batteries Die On You In The Middle Of A Heated Online Game Weeee Loooovveeee It Don't We Sarcasm
MizTv  +   928d ago
Never had a problem with mr ps3 controllers
I have has them for years and they still charge great
H0RSE  +   928d ago
If you want rechargeable batteries in the controller, you can easily put them in yourself. The controller currently uses standard AA batteries, meaning you could just use AA rechargeable ones - I have a couple charging in my wall as we speak. You don't need a battery pack for them to be rechargeable.

And as mentioned, some do prefer batteries? Why? Because they are simple and easily accessible. If your batteries die, you can buy them virtually anywhere, be it a grocery store or a gas station, and lots of people tend to have spare batteries laying around regardless, due to so many other household devices using them.

If a proprietary battery pack dies, or stops keeping charge, (I heard the PS4 controllers battery pack isn't even removable/replaceable)how easy will it be to replace that? Of course much of this irrelevant anyway, since MS is releasing a play and charge kit, which comes with a rechargeable battery pack, so I don't see where PS fans have any argument.

(and in case you were wondering, PS4 will charge $60 for their controller as well)

Perosnally, I have no use for a wireless controller - I actually do not like wireless anything - keyboard, mice, headsets, etc. I will choose wired every time. Currently, my main controller is a wireless xbox 360 controller. It hasn't had any batteries (pack or standard) in it for years, and instead I just plug the play n charge wire in and use it as a wired controller. I do all my gaming on my monitor, so I don't need the "freedom" that comes with a wireless controller.
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eezo  +   929d ago
i think Microsoft should go for a re-reveal of Xbox One....
Heisenburger  +   929d ago
Xbox One: JK Edition?

I'm just playing around.

I hope, for the fans of xbox, that they give their customers what I feel they deserve for their money.

I'm a playstation guy personally, but idc about brands when people that love my hobby too are getting the shaft.

I'm not trying some underhanded insult to an inanimate object either. Just fyi.

The more they change the more I feel happy for the xbox gamers out there.
TomShoe  +   929d ago
Adding a headset this late in the game? I believe it might be a bit too risky at this point, because now they'd probably start selling consoles at a loss, and we all remember what happened to the PS3.

Probably not a good idea, IMO.
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Insomnia_84  +   929d ago
Think about what hardware each console had 6/7 years ago and compare them.

7 years later, 2013, Microsoft is using hardware that the PS3 started with in 2006 when the components where more expensive like BluRay, Touch-sensitive buttons, wifi, no disc tray. Xbox 360 still doesn't use Bluetooth and not even for the Xbox One.

Everything in the Xbox One now is cheapet than it was 7 years ago, Xbox One's memory DDR3 is cheaper than the PS4 GDDR5. They can definitely put a headset in the box with no problem but this is Micro$oft we're talking about so don't expect cosumer friendly from them.
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dethpuck  +   929d ago
Not everything. Microsoft is using proprietary tech for audio and their wireless controllers. Both machines are pretty awesome. It is definitely more expensive to game on Xbox. I'm ok with that because the online experience will be much better. Which is the most important thing for me. I wil still use my ps4 for the great exclusives
Virus201  +   928d ago
Xbox One uses WiFi Direct which has faster Bandwidth than Bluetooth.

>> "The Xbox One uses a technology called Wi-Fi Direct to connect its controller, while the PlayStation 4 relies on Bluetooth 2.1 + EDR. On paper, Bluetooth 2.1 + EDR's theoretical 3Mbps maximum speed is clearly outclassed by Wi-Fi Direct's 250Mbps theoretical throughput. However, whether this difference will result in any tangible difference remains to be seen. In the Xbox One's case, this could end up being important if Microsoft chooses to release add-ons, like a microphone for voice chat, and an updated version of its keyboard pad."
lastofgen  +   929d ago
these consoles are in it for the long term. Make a loss or break even the first few years and then start to make a profit. That's normally how it works and for a company as big as microsoft, I'm assuming they can take the hit.
kneon  +   929d ago
Adding a wired headset would only cost them a few dollars, it's not like they will actually ship a really good headset with either console.

But if you want a decent headset you're better off buying it separately.
jessupj  +   928d ago
Normally that would be correct, but unfortunately MS and their typical wanting to control everything to squeeze more money out of their customers has created a proprietary port that only their specific customer built, expensive as hell headset is compatible with.

So if they wanted to include a cheap headset inbox they couldn't just buy in bulk from a 3rd party, they would have to design, build and test a device themselves.

I'm no tech expert, but I don't think 4 months is enough time.
kneon  +   928d ago
I wasn't aware of that, I expected that it was just going to be a standard headset port. In that case it will be more than just a few dollars and will take more time and effort.
strifeblade  +   928d ago
According to patcher ps4 costs 275$ to produce while xbox one costs 325$ in terms of parts- how does a headset cost to make? well it retails 25$ so its probably dirt cheap (10$?).

The question is not if they would lose money but they will have lower profit margins
shibster88  +   929d ago
Ms can take a hit but im guessing this is there last console,they can't get it right you would of thought with the people they have on there pay roll they would kills all competition, but they don't sad really, ps4 all the way buy buy my beloved 360
OpieWinston  +   928d ago
Consoles haven't released and you're declaring that it's going to fail? They're doing a lot of good things and you people still think they'll die out? Hell no, I do hope you enjoy your PS4.

But competition this generation is going to be awesome, mainly because they are both throwing strong punches now.

BTW I suggest you hope that this isn't MS last console, because if it is PS5 will be really shit because Sony will have no major competition for consoles.
Wikkid666  +   929d ago
Or just add in a adapter so we can use current headsets.
Pascalini  +   929d ago
They better include one!!!!!
adamandkate  +   929d ago
too little too late?
Darkfist  +   929d ago
Dont care, thanks to all those 180 i dont trust Microsoft, ps4 here i come, i always wanted to play infamous.
Campy da Camper  +   929d ago
Infamous is one of the best IP this generation my friend. I have a plat in both installments and 100% in the dlc. You are really missing out if you don't play those games.
Burr_Rabbit  +   929d ago
I like Playstation better than XBox anyways. It's a good thing MS has all of those people brainwashed into liking their stuff, otherwise the xbone company would not exist! Lol!
safsaan  +   929d ago
its called preference. how do you get brainwashed by using a piece of tech? i PREFER xbox because its a more streamlined experience for me. Even tough i have a ps3 i prefer the xbox. Be a little mature and dont bash on the consumers of other products. the hate is strong in you, young one.
LogicStomper  +   928d ago
"It's a good thing MS has all of those people brainwashed into liking their stuff..."

You draw such conclusions without any basis of information resulting in 100% uncertainty in your conclusion.

So applying your logic with this quote of yours:

"I like Playstation better than XBox anyways."

Is it not questionable that maybe Sony has brainwashed you into liking their stuff?

So in conclusion, your argument = invalid.
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gamer2013  +   928d ago
The 360 had superior online, better multiplats and a larger overall library of games due to being released a year earlier than the PS3. The XB1 has more games, superior online and more functionality than the PS4. Just facts, no need for brainwashing here.
Scatpants  +   929d ago
All these 180 make Microsoft look desperate. It's like they are begging people to buy their console.
murderek  +   929d ago
You don't have to beg people to buy a console that supports mods, functions as a dev kit, connects to a PC, xbox 360, cable box, etc, includes a 1080p night vision camera, utilizes 300,000 servers, has dedicated servers for ALL games, has a controller with rumble triggers, a secure and reliable online network, cloud processing (and soon to return.. cloud based game sharing) and a great launch lineup.

It's the only true "next gen" console on the market imo, and real gamers know it.
deadie  +   929d ago
What? Haha. Yeah everyone - hear the REAL gamer murderek!

"true next gen"? Yeah theyre trying to do everything Sony does as of now. Right after their attempt of deceiving the public with "true next gen" policies.

But hey we are not worthy - were not "real" gamers.

Wake up.
OpieWinston   928d ago | Trolling | show
jessupj  +   928d ago
Well lets see...

X1 HDD can not be replaced period. PS4 HDD can be replaced with any HDD that can physically fit.

PS4 comes already with a solid stable network that has dedicated servers for most 1st party games. So I will be a slight edge to the X1.

PS4 can use any previous headset that worked with the PS3. MS forces you to buy their overpriced headset because that's the only one that will work for the system, because MS is all about the consumer. s\

The D4 has been declared from many different sources to be better than the new X1 controller.

PS4 is cheaper and a lot more powerful. Expect to see superior multiplats and 1st party titles that are noticeably better than X1 exclusives in a couple years or sooner.

Sony never tried to royally F the gamer and has built their system around gamers and developers. MS has built they system around advertising and TV.

And the biggest one. Sony has an incredibly strong track record of supporting their console right through out the generation. Remind again how many quality AAA exclusives MS has released in the last 3 years compared to Sony? And tell me how many exclusives are coming for the 360 in the future?

I could go on, but I'll stop for now. But judging from the disagrees all the pro sony comments are getting I expect this information (most of it factual) will be blindly disregarded and probably make a lot of people angry.

PS4 is the obvious choice for gamers. But let me know how that works out for you in a few years when MS drops support again for the core gamers of the X1.
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gamer2013  +   928d ago
I don't think I could have said it better.
LAZL0-Panaflex  +   929d ago
They are. I'll never forget the gears of war judgement sneak peak on Xbox live.....(days after ps4 announcement) nothing but awkward silence and dorky comments. The tension was visible.
Darth Gamer  +   929d ago
How did this thread get approved, It's a duplicate of another on the next page!!
Ripsta7th  +   929d ago
Kinect has a built in mic tho
FITgamer  +   929d ago
The problem with Kinect, at least the current one is even if the back ground noise doesn't get picked up you can barely hear person talking. It sounds like they are talking from another room.
ma1asiah  +   928d ago
In respect of Kinect 2.0 (which remember is 10x more powerful than Kinect 1.0)

It comes with a new microphone, an advanced ray microphone supported by a multi-channel echo cancellation algorithm which allows the Xbox to zero in on speakers, dialing down the volume of nearby sounds in order to hear you clearly (it can also work out who's talking by looking for open mouths). The effects are "kind of like when you're at a cocktail party and you listen to someone's conversation across the room and kind of tone everybody else out, that's basically what the microphone can do", according to Leo Del Castillo.
Virus201  +   928d ago
So does the PS4 controller ....and your problem is?
Exiled_Samurai  +   929d ago
I see a lot of dumbass comments about how they ate doing another 180. They can just add the adapter or headset. NOT A BIG DEAL like most of you Sony fanboys are making it
Cryptcuzz  +   928d ago
My opinion is, its quite shocking to know that MS themselves have yet to know what will or will not be included with the console this late in development.

The Xbox One is supposed to be out in November of this yeat, so to be uncertain of whether a simple headset will or will not be included shows a lack of direction for the console.

I hope they get their acts together and stick with a plan, its getting confusing what is included out the box, what features are now included or removed, etc.
Scatpants  +   928d ago
The point is originally they weren't going to give you one, instead making you shell out more money to get one since your old one won't work. Now that everyone is calling them out on all their shitty anti-consumer BS now they are thinking about throwing one in.
Also the reason they didn't include one in the first place wasn't that it would raise the price of the system, that shitty basic headset probably costs a dollar to produce. The reason they didn't include it was so you would have to buy it and that thing is almost all profit for them.
vigilante_man  +   929d ago
This is old news. I am sure it was mentioned a few weeks back that they were gonna put one in. They did with the 360 and it is Sony who have copied them on this.

Why they even thought about not including one in the first place is beyond me. (Mind you, DRM, ALways connected, etc.).

Edit:* They got rid of the brick power at last (they have, right?) wish they would have a controller with built in power supply like DS3 & DS4 - still using AA batteries to force customers to buy their rechargeable is bad. Include it as standard!
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KentBlake  +   928d ago
Another 180. That's the third one (DRM, self-publishing for indies and now this). When they make the fourth one (probably no more mandatory Kinect) they'll finally say that this was all an ellaborate prank to reveal the REAL name of their console: Xbox 720!

...and the internet was right all along.
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LogicStomper  +   928d ago
Although technically incorrect, that was some good light-hearted humour!
SITH  +   928d ago
I love how people call this 180, flip flopping, and back tracking as if the console launched already in its final and complete consumer form. MS can do what ever the hell they want between now and launch. Nothing is finalized till then. The real reason people are upset is because the changes which are at their discretion, is leaving little room to complain for Sony gamers.
gamer2013  +   928d ago
Kinect will always be mandatory with the XB1 because the whole system is built around its features. So selling an XB1 without Kinect would be like selling a game console without a controller. Plus, MS wants it to become standard that developers incorporate hand gestures and voice commands into their games. This is why a Kinectless XB1 will never happen.
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chuckyj1  +   928d ago
If they do end up including a headset it will be better than that POS thing Sony claims is a headset..
tommygunzII  +   928d ago
With X1 the headset will be the least of their concerns.
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SITH  +   928d ago
All current headsets will work with Xbox one. How despite the headset not connecting to the controller? You can plug your headset up to the console using the optical audio port or your TV's ports. That takes care of incoming sound for the game. You can then use kinect 2 as a microphone just like you can right now for kinect on the 36o. Personally that is how I will do it, regardless if a headset is bundled in or not. Biggest drawback with this method, no mute without navigating dashboard options.
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Excalibur  +   928d ago
I'm still waiting on the 180 on the mandatory Kinect 2.0
They said the system will not work without it but given M$'s history I just don't believe them.
feraldrgn  +   928d ago
With all of these 180's, the question has to be asked.
Why didn't they do this on day one?
H0RSE  +   928d ago
Here's an update for anyone using a third party headset:

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