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Submitted by maximaz 368d ago | opinion piece

4 Reasons Why We Don’t Need Anymore Consoles

AlienLion writes:

"It’s not like you need more reasons to love the 50′s, but that’s when man invented both video games and lasers. The decade is basically the guitar solo of human existence but I digress. Ever since gaming appeared, we have been trying to use whatever available technology to make it more awesome, from vector displays to PC’s to HDTV’s to cell phones. If gaming is at all possible on a given gadget, we have put it there (there is Doom on a calculator FFS); and whenever gaming became too much of a pain in the ass on a certain type of a gadget, we have abandoned it and moved on to better things.

For awhile now, video game consoles have been a very convenient and suitable gaming gadget but perhaps it’s time to take a closer look and see if the upcoming 8th generation of consoles is about the time to move on yet again..." (Microsoft, Nintendo, PS4, Sony, Wii U, Xbox One)

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MariaHelFutura  +   370d ago | Well said
We need consoles.
Zuperman  +   369d ago
I'll continue to support consoles because of the games.
shivvy24  +   368d ago
Ratchet and Clank , infamous , Uncharted , TLOU , Halo ! Yep Only on consoles ! Even Desitiny
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georgeenoob   368d ago | Bad language | show
Shane Kim  +   368d ago
The only one pathetic here is you george.
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clouds5  +   368d ago
You guys do realize that these games could run just as easily on the PC and look and play even better?
Halo is the best example. It was meant to be the next PC hit then MS bought it and dumbed it down to push their xbox. You should have lived through the golden age of PC gaming before xbox and ps2 were out. Where all the games were developed for the PC, not ported. The half-life aera.
All the things people are excited about with the new consoles (skype voice/type chat, switching between stuff, huge open connected online worlds etc) were there ten years ago. I guess many gamers are too young to have lived through those times? But it is now that i realize that consoles held gaming back 10 freaking years.
So they have catched up? Well he oculus rift is just releasing for pc... Guess we have to wait another 10 years till console manufacturors are ready for todays gaming tools...

Btw i absolutely agree with this blogpost but most people will never see it that way because they do not want to build their own machines. Then they had to get off their couch and do something. They want to buy an overadvertised box with a brand and argue which of the essentially identical boxes is better. Marketing is key. I get slightly off topic but look at how people are praising the ps3? Thats all free advertising.

Well lets leave it at that. Cheers and gaming ftw.
jimmywolf  +   368d ago
@clouds5

even if console went away the same thing your saying would exist people would want pre made box "alienware"

their still be weaker system, that a game would look like crap compared too another pc. an their still be budget games that never pushed your pc too the max.

console are nice that you have set price an assets too create a game, console don't stop pc gamers. developers do, they don't want spend more $$$ catering too elite few.
clouds5  +   368d ago
@jimmywolf of course you're right. We are brought up to love and buy brands. And it even happens whenyou are aware of the fact its only because of the way you grew up :-)
Still it happens all over our planet and in all kind of businesses. Going way off topic now ;-)
DragonKnight  +   368d ago
Without even reading the article at all, would I be correct in saying that it has either PC or Mobile or both in it?

**EDIT** @clouds5: "You guys do realize that these games could run just as easily on the PC and look and play even better?"

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trafalger  +   368d ago
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of course people care, otherwise there would be no market for new graphic cards. how many topics here are filled with raging fanboys going on and on about how much ram each new console has or teraflops being compared? how many times did sony promote the power of the ps3 and are now talking about how fast the ram is for the ps4? people care about how powerful the consoles are just like they care about how games can look and run on the pc.

console fanboys are just as bad as pc elitists.
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DragonKnight  +   368d ago
@trafalger: You respond to something you don't understand apparently.

clouds5 said: "You guys do realize that these games could run just as easily on the PC and look and play even better?"

Obviously talking about console games on PC. I responded with the image because no one cares if console games can run better on PC. They aren't on PC and if people wanted to build a PC they would. The market for graphics cards are for PC gamers, not for console gamers. So again, nobody cares.
trafalger  +   367d ago
"So again, nobody cares."

is that why there's a petition for gtav to be on the pc? of course people care. not sure why you are speaking on behalf of everyone. you should edit your comments and say 'you' don't care.

console makers know that part of the appeal to buying there hardware is exclusives. if those exclusives came to the pc , pc gamers would care and i imagine some console fanboys would be upset because to them exclusives mean everything. i have seen a lot of people talk about titanfall for example and if it were exclusive to the xbone, pc gamers would care. but it is coming to the pc and i bet ps4 buyers want it to come to that system too. so dont try and be witty saying nobody cares because you like console gaming more.
JunioRS101  +   368d ago
Basically, yeah haha
edgeofsins  +   368d ago
@clouds5

Consoles drive game demand more then PC's do. That is why many games release only on consoles, even if they can go on PC without much trouble.

Preference doesn't deter me from understanding that. I like both PC and consoles. I currently only game on laptop, it has a 7640G and 7670M so it plays games well. I will upgrade to a better laptop eventually or build a desktop later on. I know very well how to build a desktop as I had my own last year that I put together and I have helped with people do it and recently have put together my friends PC from start to finish. I will be with PC's always. I however love consoles as well for the exclusives and features. If LittleBIGPlanet did come to PC I would absolutely adore that though. It would likely be better since level limitations would be less and such but Sony is the reason that game was made at all.
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ala_767  +   368d ago
The author of this article is CrackHead! Of Course We need console! Who the hell pays $3000 for a gaming PCs! Its not about affording, its a matter of being smart or stupid
clouds5  +   368d ago
Have you not seen the link to the 700$ pc that already has stronger hardware than ps4? In a year that will be even less...
Boysangur  +   368d ago
I don't think 90% of people posting actually read the article, even less understood the point.
kayoss  +   368d ago
To those who say pc is suffice. I'm not about to spend a freakin 1-2 hour optimizing said game so I can play it on pc. This why console exist, convenient. The majority of gamers are not computer literate. They just want sit down turn on a machine and play a game for a few hours. They don't want to spend that time wondering why ther is no sound on the game or why the color look crappy.
levian  +   368d ago
This type of article again?

I've been a console gamer all my life, but the past few years I've started gaming on the PC as well. Yes, its great. Mods, awesome graphics, dirt cheap steam sales, all of that.

Sometimes though the PC doesn't get a game that's on console. Playing on a console feels different. I prefer gaming with a controller (yes I know you can use them on the PC). Also, I travel fairly often and I usually bring my PS3 with me. I can't very well pack my 50lb custom pc in my backpack or suitcase.

In less than a year, I'm going to have to upgrade my 3 year old ATI 6850 and probably blow a solid $300-500 on a new graphics card, and possibly upgrade from my i5-2500k. On my new $500 console, it will last for 6-10 years without needing to be upgraded, until the new console comes out. And then I will keep it, and continue to play games on it.

TL;DR

We need consoles.
PotatoClock  +   368d ago
The console market dictates the specs for the multi-plats, like last gen. Why would you need to upgrade?
You can still play the same newly released games on PC as you can on console. If the next gen of consoles lasts for 6-10 years then so will your PC.

Multi-plats only scale up on PC. Doesn't mean you need to upgrade your hardware when console hardware hasn't changed.
I'm still using a 4850 and Core 2 Duo. Skyrim at 1080p works fine. Not maxed obviously, but still smoother and prettier than 360 version.

I can understand about mobility, a PC doesn't do that well.
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levian  +   368d ago
I totally get what you're saying. PC's have the capabilities of having games that would be insane to consider on a console, because we can have better hardware. But for the most part, games are based on the lowest common denominator, ie, consoles.

Since I'm playing on PC, I like to have my games maxed out if I can. I can play around 80% of current games on max, and the rest of them (witcher 2 being one of them) on high. Now that the console specs are going up, the hardware demands for PC will go up as well, so I'll be able to run less games on max shortly.

I'll either need to pick up a second 6850 for fairly cheap (150-200 I think) and run crossfire, which not all games support, or dish out some serious cash on a good gpu.
XGamer  +   368d ago
Considering all that the XBOX ONE can do and probably the ps4, I think we have more reasons then ever to want and need onsoles and less reasons to play on pc.
Spoons  +   367d ago
Agreed. As long as console sales thrive, the proof is in the pudding.
dj3boud  +   367d ago
Could we ever have a quality game like The Last of Us without dedicated gaming devices/Consoles? i believe not.

...and poor 4 reasons at that.
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slimeybrainboy  +   369d ago
No more ease of convenience- That one speaks for itself as a stupid argument. You buy it, you plug it in, you're done.

Price - Again invalid. If you can't sell your games on the PC than when you buy Bioshock, playthrough it in a week. You have just spent £30 you can't get back, whereas on console you can spend £35 and get £25-30 back. Also PS+ means that the money you spend on multiplayer is subsidised by the vast amount of content that will exceed the cost of PS+.

No value - I don't wuite understand the point? That there hasnt been a format change in any media to add value to consoles? Dumb point. I buy a game console to play games, not to watch TV, not to watch movies, not to play music. The fact there havn't been any new formats means that the consoles are just as valuable as ever.

More restrictions - true. Modding is why some people really enjoy PC, not for me. With more restrictions also mean hackers and aimbots and hackers. I will give more restrictions as a positive for PC but it does have it's trade offs.

REASONS TO HAVE CONSOLES

Ease of use
The majority of people play on one system allowing developers without having to scale down to any other systems.
The exclusives
Poor/late PC ports
Additional features on a machine built to facilitate gaming features.
Scatpants  +   368d ago
Also you don't have forums full of nerds crying about "this game doesn't work right on my videocard I am never buying a game from this company again" or this is a shoddy console port it doesn't play good, I am never buying a game from this company again" wahhhhh. I don't know how many times I've read something like this with big game launches but I know it's a bunch.
levian  +   368d ago
Couldn't agree more. I love pc gaming, but I have to jump through hoops to get a game to work sometimes. Stalker: SoC isn't even playable on my pc, so that was money down the drain.

Also its nice to actually own a physical copy of your games. I love steam and steam sales. Who doesn't like getting AAA games for like 10 bucks? But in 10 years, I don't know if steam will still be around, and if my hundreds of dollars spent will be gone. With my console games, I will have them until I choose to sell them.
SpideySpeakz  +   369d ago
I've got a master idea that will make PC and console gaming obsolete forever. I just need 10 - 15 years, with a fund of 15 - 20 billion dollars, and a massive scientific research of the human brain. No more controller. No more television screens.
GenericNameHere  +   368d ago
Uhhh... Isn't that already invented? I seem to recall me and my cousin playing this just this morning. It's this foreign thing called "going outside". However, there are no TV "outside", so I'll just stick with playing videogames with a controller and TV for now.
SpideySpeakz  +   367d ago
You don't even know what I'm talking about.
I could very well be talking about absolutely... NOTHING.
j-blaze  +   369d ago
sorry but consoles are very important to gaming industry and to me lol..90% of Japanese games are on consoles and handhelds, also, most gaming innovations came from console games
trafalger  +   368d ago
there is lots of innovation on the pc end, oculus rift is one of them. you can do motion controls, 3d, and remote play on the pc as well.

the main advantage of consoles is still its ease of use, lower entry price, unified standard and of course marketing. nintendo, sony and m$ spend billions of dollars making these things and marketing them. there really is no one voice behind the pc. steam is one of main supporters but the pc is very much an open platform. that usually means more innovation and a lot less restrictions.
KillrateOmega  +   369d ago
4 Reasons To Buy A Console:
1) Convenience
2) Exclusive games
3) True optimization due to the fixed hardware. No need for developers to scale their games.
4) Substantially lower initial price
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shivvy24  +   368d ago
one thing that matters to me the most are the exclusives ! games like ratchet and infamous are only on playstation :)
cpayne93  +   368d ago
Theres also local multiplayer, which unfortunately has decreased a bit over the years.
manageri   368d ago | Spam
Godlovesgamers  +   369d ago
"4 Reasons Why We Don’t Need Anymore Consoles"

More like...

"4 Reasons Why We Don't Need Anymore article submission from 'alienlion.com'."
N2NOther  +   368d ago
Per the article:
1) Installing a game is only required on Xbox One.
2) The PC you cite as $50 cheaper than the PS4 and 7 years of gaming? What are its specs? Merely having the PC isn't enough.
3) The consoles play games I want to play as well as serves as a media hub. Yes you can hook up a Roku box, but can I play inFAMOUS Second Son on it? Or can I play it on PC for that matter?
4) To be honest, Sony's free online is not the greatest experience. If paying $60 helps then get a better infrastructure, then I don't mind paying, plus THOSE FREE GAMES.
christrules0041  +   368d ago
I don't think this guy realizes how many more copies of games sell on consoles compared to PC. A good majority of the games actually. If you looking to sink the industry getting rid of consoles would be a good first step.

I didn't even read the article but as long as consoles sell more then PC does console games will continue to fund PC games that will port over.

Especially when you look at games like COD MW2 25 million on consoles and 2.5 million on PC. There is a lot of games that sell on consoles but not as well on PC.
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segamon  +   368d ago
what the?!! kid get the hell out of here.
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SirDjss  +   368d ago
Lol its easy why we dont need consoles , and the answer is (PC) :P
SegaGamer  +   368d ago
Again a PC fan misses the most important piece of information, and that is with a console we don't need to keep updating it's hardware. PC's cost a damn fortune if you want to play both new and older games. Your PC could be too powerful one minute and not powerful enough the next minute.
manageri   368d ago | Spam
ChickeyCantor  +   368d ago
"Again a PC fan misses the most important piece of information, and that is with a console we don't need to keep updating it's hardware."

That's why PC games come with setting options.
You don't need all of the high end hardware.

Im doing fine so far with my hardware of 3 years old. I don't need to play with every settings high and it still looks good.

Updating PC hardware after 4 years is no different than buying a new console after 4 years.
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swice  +   367d ago
@SEGAisBETTER

I agree that we need AND WANT consoles, which I will most certainly keep buying...

but, from a different point of view, if we weren't spending hundreds on console gaming and only had PC's, would't we theoretically use that money to keep our PC's up to date? If you upgrade one component at a time with some time in between, wouldn't it even out the cost a little bit?
SegaGamer  +   368d ago
They should just make 1 console per generation and 1 handheld, i know i am living in a dream world but that's the way it should be. Gamers would never need to argue about who is better.
swice  +   367d ago
This situation is ideal but Utopian.

Who would design the console and the handheld? Would there be a company that watches over Nintendo, Microsoft, and Sony? Would there be one company who's the "boss"?

(Sega I didn't realize it was you. I've already responded to one of your other posts. I promise I'm not trying to pick on you. I'm just in a "what-if" mood. Apologies.)
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bub16  +   368d ago
Im a console gamer who knows nothing about PCs. Console gaming will live forever as its for your average gamers. Not the gaming geeks

Even mums and grandparents can go in to a shop and buy a game with ps3/ Xbox written on top. We all know Pc gaming is better but it's ease as why people buy consoles
PablitoPaperito  +   368d ago
But do the real average gamers (mums and such) care if their game has super-duper graphics or just super-graphics?

What if 5 years from now the Galaxy S10 or what have you will got similar specs to a PS4?

And you could hook it up to your tv via hdmi (u can do this already) and hook a controller to it via USB otg (u can do this already) or wi-fi?

Who would buy consoles except for gaming geeks?
davidj88  +   368d ago
Don't be silly, there is so much wrong with having a phone as a games console that i shouldn't even need to all the reasons why.

I'll give you one for curiosity;

1)How will a phone deal with hours of gaming from an internal battery supply or being left plugged into the socket for hours?
kevnb  +   368d ago
we don't need games actually, we just like them a lot.
swice  +   367d ago
The older I get, the more I realize this...and the more I try to ignore it
kydrice  +   368d ago
Shut up Meg.
JBSleek  +   368d ago
10 years the mass market won't likely need consoles. Just simple ad plugging your phone to a TV and boom great experiences and amazing graphics.
Hicken  +   368d ago
... when mobile devices catch up, the ability of consoles will have surpassed them. It ALWAYS will.

It's simple: If you can fit those "amazing"Z graphics" into something like a phone, just imagine what happens when you put that same tech into something the size of a console.

Because of that, consoles will always be superior.
PotatoClock  +   368d ago
Who said the hardware will be in the phone? Could be streamed like Onlive.
skydragoonity  +   368d ago
Rubbish article. We need consoles simple as that.
PablitoPaperito  +   368d ago
The consumer market is going towards multifunctionality and all in one devices.

Either consoles become the new DVR/cable box/pcs ergo the center of connectivity for tablets/smartphones/all ur equipment or they're gonna die simple as that.

It's the same as dying PCs and dying point-and-shoot cameras, GPS, music players (ipods).

Both M$ and Sony are bledding money as is, due to their console efforts and sold 180 mil consoles combined.
And 60$ games at that.
Imagine if that number was to be halved in the next 10 years.

Unsustainable in the long run.
Lunarassassin  +   368d ago
So we stick with what we have and eventually end up being 100s of years behind PC?
Wise_potato  +   368d ago
Consoles are 100 times better than pc gaming
_LarZen_  +   368d ago
That has to be the DUMBEST list I have read for along long time.

And this is coming from a PC gamer.
Tatsuya   368d ago | Bad language | show
josephayal  +   368d ago
PC gaming is always ahead
I've always been a PC gamer, I rarely play Console games
tracyllrkn  +   368d ago
We won't have consoles in the future. They'll just be tablet consoles.
Dogswithguns  +   368d ago
PS2 still the best of all... yep, we don't need anymore consoles.
contradictory  +   368d ago
i know that i can get better hardware for pc but i don't really have any knowledge on how to make the pc build.
from what people have told me it's supposedly not that hard to learn....but i don't have the time for that...
nor interest for that matter

and if i would buy a gaming pc it would cost me up to 1700€
which is not really ideal for me at the moment since i'm a student and i don't have a steady income

so excuse me but as of now i'll stick with consoles.
now, if you'll excuse me i have some reality to twist.
manageri   368d ago | Spam
SirBradders  +   368d ago
1 and ultimatley the only reason why we do: GAMES.
jameson12345  +   368d ago
Nah, I think we do. The true gaming consoles are really accessible to the average person, have exclusive games made for the console by talented developers, and are guaranteed to work with games made for the system. Also, consoles are usually more portable than pcs, and cheaper over the long run.
Izzy408  +   368d ago
Just another article written by an angry PC fanboy. But I can't blame him/her. If i were a PC fanboy, I'd be pissed-off at the fact that next-gen consoles are getting all of the attention, aside from getting great exclusives.

Maybe consoles will die out in the future, but for now, it looks like consoles will be around for at least another 10 years minimum.
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turgore  +   368d ago
This might as well be the last console generation. Today I can buy a PC that outperforms the PS4/xbone and can play games since wayback.
urwifeminder  +   367d ago
Hope they stick around i don't want to have to find a new company to hate sony gets all mine.
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