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As Xbox One Looks More Like PS4, Sony Still Has One Key Advantage

The Xbox One keeps changing. After Microsoft previously announced that all developers would need to find publishers for their Xbox One games — effectively shutting down the burgeoning indie gaming scene — it has now walked back and announced that self-publishing is allowed after all.

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Gildarts1101d ago

I think Microsoft has the advantage right now, In terms of all the things the X1 can do that the PS4 can't.

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No_Limit1101d ago OffTopicShow
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No_Limit1101d ago (Edited 1101d ago )

@aiBreeze, the fact that both require paywall for online gaming really gives the edge to MS. Remember, the Live service is still considered the best online gaming service and now will be migrating to dedicated servers really is a BIG PLUS for MS. Sony will not get near that capacity anytime soon.

The Kinect. Since it is a built-in feature of the Xbox One and not a separate accessory, developers are encourage to create games, even multiplatform games, with new functions, features, and gameplay idea that aren't available on PS4.

Xbox and Windows integration. I can look forward of seeing Live games be cross-compatible between the Windows ecosystem. The game, Project Spark, already shows some of the potential of this ecosystem integration which allow players to play a game on their Xbox One and can continue to play the same game at the same level on a PC. User created contents will also work with both PC and Xbox.

HammadTheBeast1101d ago

Those aren't really advantages as much as side features. It's great that Ms can finally afford dedicated servers, PS3 games like Killzone, Warhawk, Starhawk, GT5 and others have all had them for years.

PS+ destroys XBL Games for Gold, sure we can all say that the connection is better, that argument holds no weight at all considering it's a new Gen, PS+ is required for MP now, and the fact that XBL was marginally better than PSN this Gen because of the lack of updates/downtime.

There is 0 connection advantage, I've played on both for 6 years now, CoD, Halo, and Killzone all play the same on both, with ups and downs.

nukeitall1100d ago (Edited 1100d ago )

@Smoovekid:

Out of the box on top of my head in no particular order:

* multitasking between tv, games, internet browsing and apps
* hdmi in supporting another device such as another console (PS4? :D) or any other device, including smartpone, tablet, pc, and cable boxes
* voice control of the entire console, "xbox on" and voice chat without a headset
* gesture based (or motion control) interface and games
* interactive tv such as polls, notifications of events (your favorite sports team just scored, watch the replay now!) or fantasy teams
* rumble in the triggers

DigitalRaptor1100d ago (Edited 1100d ago )

@ nukeitall

1) PS3 has had a PlayTV add-on for years that allowed you to record TV to your hard drive and show a detailed TV guide. There's little reason to think that Sony won't have the same thing for the PS4, especially since they've registered "PlayStation TV".

PS4 has also been confirmed to be able to perform multitasking and state switching between games, applications, whatever media features they have and internet browsing.

2) Is there any actual confirmation PS4 cannot do this? Just curious.

3) How do you know the PS4 camera doesn't have this ability? It's very simple voice commands that even today's laptop microphone's could handle if setup right.

4) PS4's camera means that developers WILL be using it for gesture based gaming, and that means that the interface can be adapted to motion gestures. But I will more often than not be using my controller, so doesn't make much difference. Jut cause Microsoft have Kinect, it doesn't mean they have been the only ones doing motion control over the past few years

5) Interactive TV has existed for years and it's just not that interesting. If you're a sports fan, then go to town.

6) The Dualshock 4 has brand new controller wide rumble, though not on the triggers so you're right there. Not sure if XB1 also has this but it means that developers can provide subtle touches of rumble more so than has been possible before. Just read the Playroom feedback and you'll understand what I mean.

DragonKnight1100d ago

@No_Limit: Your comment made me lol. Seriously. To think anyone thinks that MS is going into the next gen with an online service advantage despite the fact that Sony has proven that they are not only offering everything that MS is in terms of online gaming, but at a cheaper yearly price and with so many more perks, is quite laughable indeed. Live may be "better" (highly subjective because PSN right now has everything that Live has, cross game chat is not a service of Live, it's a device function) than PSN right now, but there is literally no way you can say that it's going into the next gen already better than PSN will be. You also can't make the claim that Live is the only one that's going to have dedicated servers when Sony had more dedicated servers this gen than MS and there's no indication that they won't continue having dedicated servers next gen.

"The Kinect."

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!

Great advantage over the PS4 there. A camera with a history of not working the way it's been promised to.

"Xbox and Windows integration."

First of all, Windows 8 is nothing to be proud of. Second of all, Playstation Cross Play/Buy. Third of all, Playstation is the only console brand thus far that has had cross platform play with PC, and that's with the PS3 BEFORE Microsoft. So welcome to the party, but you're late.

"User created contents will also work with both PC and Xbox."

Proof?

MoveTheGlow1100d ago (Edited 1100d ago )

The PS4 certainly has the advantage at the moment, but I wouldn't discount the new Kinect. That thing looks like what the first one should have been before they stripped the initial Tel Aviv design of what made it work, resulting in embarrassing controls for stuff like Steel Batallion.

And yet, they hardly sell its functionality in games at all right now. Harmonix is jumping up and down in the background about something that's at least *original* using something unique to the Xbone, and instead Microsoft gives more time to Rome Normandy QTE Game and Call of Duty: Dog Edition.

Maybe at some point in the future we'll see this become a pretty good kids' console. Really young kids. I mean, I was fine with my NES around age 5, it's not that tough to pick up and use a controller. Still, it'll have its place for better dance games and maybe a working version of Steel Batallion, for what it's worth.

AndrewLB1100d ago

One thing Microsoft definitely has an edge with is xbox live. PSN is complete garbage in comparison.
Also, hardware wise I think having the power supply internally like on PS4 could be problematic. I still don't know how they're planning on cooling the PS4 because it also has the power supply heat to contend with.
Regardless, both consoles are for the most part Laptop parts in a media center type case. People who continually claim these consoles will be anywhere near the performance of gaming PCs are delusional. Gaming PCs typically have 700-1kw power supplies and their performance is reflected in that when compared to Sony and Microsofts lap... uh.. consoles. Yea, that's it.

Kutaragis Revenge1100d ago SpamShow
Thomper1100d ago

HDMI 'in'

No amount of Mark Cerny jiz can get around that one.

I wouldn't be surprised if PS4 suddenly develops one on launch. Oversight fail IMO

dragon821100d ago

@AndrewLB

You do know the PS3 has had it's power supply internally since launch right? I wouldn't worry too much abou the PS4 having it that way if I was you.

Also, the only thing that is better about Xbox Live on 360 over PSN is the party/cross game chat system. That's it. PSN does have both of those features on the Vita which is also free like on PS3.

The actual online experience is up to the individual game's servers. Give it a rest with that crap already.

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gaffyh1100d ago

@DigitalRaptor - PS4 only has HDMI out, port. The rest of the stuff you said is valid, also i'd argue that PS4 has multi-tasking as well. You can at the very least suspend your game, like on the Vita, switch the console off, and pick it up exactly where you left off, without needing to wait for a checkpoint. That's a fantastic feature even on the Vita, so really happy that they brought it to PS4.

sentury1111100d ago

@dragonknight
Shadowrun was cross platform play in 2007. I played it on PC against Xbox players and eventually got it on Xbox to 100% it years later after I lost my copy.
That was an original fps to bad it didn't do better.

badz1491100d ago

wow...the Xboners are bragging about HDMI-IN now?

you guys do know that the PS3 has been doing what the Xbone are going to do with TV since 2010, right? ever heard of Torne? it's only available in Japan but even without HDMI-IN, the PS3 has been doing DVR thing before. so, what's so innovative/new about the Xbone HDMI-IN again? it's good that MS has finally caught up to the PS3 with their Xbone lol!

s45gr321100d ago

It has kinect and live tv and probably the illumini room. It cost $500.00 that's a plus no

TomShoe1100d ago

LOL @ The people who reported those comments because they're butthurt fanboys...get a life

The_Con-Sept1100d ago

Here is an example of how the Xbox has barely anything when it comes to an "advantage."

The Xbox One now has a tattle tail system.

It is also built with ads in mind.

It is great for business meetings.

It can connect with the Microsoft surface.

It comes with a camera in the box.

Skype is now accessible on the unit.

Browse the web while listening to music.

Dedicated servers so you never miss a conference call from your boss.

Remember kids. The Xbox One was built with ads in mind. Get your corporate adbox one-80 today!

I love that dedicated server crap. It is not just for gaming. It is for every device. And in case you forgot Microsoft is trying to push this onto corporate America to use for their "all in one. Input one."

Maybe now you will better understand just what you are buying when you get an Xbox one. Yeah it is a machine for conferences. Gaming is just the side show. Good luck homies on the Xbox one.

Meanwhile in PlayStation nation....

Indie corner! It is already established in the PlayStation store. If you dislike indie games; WHO CARES ABOUT THAT OPINION?

The share button. Instantly show your friends how its done. Help them out by taking control of their controller on a tough boss. If you don't think that you will never say "give me the #&$%ing controller!" Then you are wrong because we know you've said it. Upload your gameplay so that others can find new exploits.

PS Vita. Yeah it exists. But don't forget that it is another screen to distract you. View messages when you have time to glance at the screen. Use it as a mini map to track soldier positions and relay tactics to your friends!

Instant purchase playable while downloading. First tried by Blizzard and Diablo 3. The PS4 can start playing a game while it is still downloading. Never miss a heart beat again because of installs. Keep your purchased store items forever on your account and share it with at least 1 of your friends. (Yes this can be done on PS3 and PS4.)

Tired of fps warfare and garbage mouths? We've got racers, puzzles, action, adventure, pretty much any stretch of imagination in the range of genres for games! Each category is a host of titles to choose from!

Need I go on?

hiphopisdead1100d ago

xb1 has tv integrated capabilities (which region and cable provider support is unknown), kinect bundled/required (which is nice to some, but i see it as creepy that it always needs to be on), minified windows os (great for app support, but might take up too much system resources).

ps4 has simplified os (less apps but more resources available to games), optional eye cam, sony world wide studios (this is huge! they've built a team to focus on great games... naughty dog, guerilla games, media molecule, polyphony, etc...), $100 cheaper, and most importantly:

Even if all things were equal (which they are not), the microsoft xbox team made their business strategy clear with their initial plans of DRM, Always Online, no used games / lending, no self publishing, etc. Microsoft planned and built this business model over the last few years. I'm glad they reversed these policies, but regardless, that was their original intention and I feel they need to earn my trust again before I even consider looking into them for a second console.

Over the next few years, let's see if they introduce anything new ahead of sony that makes us excited about (instead of just trying to keep up with what sony was fighting to keep alive).

I mentioned the sony world wide studios because I believe that is HUGE. With all the money both companies are making on their consoles, it is much harder to sit down with that money, and invest in internal teams of dev studios, manage that, as opposed to take the money to an external studio and say "crytek, please make a game just for us". As a gamer, I am excited getting a playstation console because I know I am getting access to amazing third party games as well as games from awesome first party studios. I dont care if a game is "exclusive"... I care that it's a naughty dog game, or a guerilla games game, or a polyphony/media molecule/sucker punch/santa monica/etc... game.

I hope more people realize that just because microsoft is changing stuff last minute, shouldn't put them on an even level with sony.

Even with the "gaming" advantages outlined above for ps4, bottom line, Microsoft tried to do something to us, they failed. If the ps4 wasn't coming out in the same year, and if it were just the xb1 releasing this year, I'm sure these policies would have stayed.

Keep that in mind when you pick your next gen console.

Marked1100d ago

HDMI in !?!?!?

Really? has is this a mention-able feature. My fricken 4 year old tv has four HDMI ports. This feature doesnt save you anything beside changing the source on your tv. OMG....ugh why must push a button.

I'm willing to bet, with the muscle used to blow air across your larynx and moving your lips and tounge to pronunciate clear enough for Kinect...you will have exerted more effort and energy then pressing the button of the controller thats already in your hand.

This xbox 1 is like trying to prove the need of a forskin....

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punisher991101d ago

"I think Microsoft has the advantage right now, In terms of all the things the X1 can do that the PS4 can't."

Name 5 things the xbox1 can do that the ps4 cant.

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Saigon1101d ago

See what pisses me off about his comment is that it is fanboyish to the max. The PS4 and Xbone have the same components only difference is the PS4 has a better GPU and faster ram. Xbone might have an advantage with esram but we need to see how they implied it and if their isn't any yield issues. Because their innards are identical, the PS4 can pretty much do what the Xbone can do.

PFFT1100d ago

Better GPU really?? Highly doubt it. But whatever

nukeitall1100d ago (Edited 1100d ago )

Out of the box on top of my head in no particular order:

1. multitasking between tv, games, internet browsing and apps
2. hdmi in supporting another device such as another console (PS4? :D) or any other device, including smartpone, tablet, pc, and cable boxes
3. voice control of the entire console, "xbox on" and voice chat without a headset
4. gesture basedm(or motion control) interface and games
5. interactive tv such as polls, notifications of events (your favorite sports team just scored, watch the replay now!) or fantasy teams
6. rumble in the triggers

TKCMuzzer1100d ago

@nukeitall
Now alter your list for 'out of the box' in the rest of the world.
Try to include something that makes gaming better, I mean it is a games console.

DigitalRaptor1100d ago

@ nukeitall

(cloned from above)

1) PS3 has had a PlayTV add-on for years that allowed you to record TV to your hard drive and show a detailed TV guide. There's little reason to think that Sony won't have the same thing for the PS4, especially since they've registered "PlayStation TV".

PS4 has also been confirmed to be able to perform multitasking and state switching between games, applications, whatever media features they have and internet browsing.

2) Is there any actual confirmation PS4 cannot do this? Just curious.

3) How do you know the PS4 camera doesn't have this ability? It's very simple voice commands that even today's laptop microphone's could handle if setup right.

4) PS4's camera means that developers WILL be using it for gesture based gaming, and that means that the interface can be adapted to motion gestures. But I will more often than not be using my controller, so doesn't make much difference. Jut cause Microsoft have Kinect, it doesn't mean they have been the only ones doing motion control over the past few years

5) Interactive TV has existed for years and it's just not that interesting. If you're a sports fan, then go to town.

6) The Dualshock 4 has brand new controller wide rumble, though not on the triggers so you're right there. Not sure if XB1 also has this but it means that developers can provide subtle touches of rumble more so than has been possible before. Just read the Playroom feedback and you'll understand what I mean.

YNWA961100d ago

Look, everyone is fighting like crazy! The big advantage right now is the Sony Fanboys are louder right now! Its Obvious! Every dog has its day! I still wonder, what do you call those who enjoy gaming on both or 3 systems?? Are we fanboys too?
Hammad, sometimes you need to be humble too, sure PS4 looking better, but nothing is really out yet... better specs have never guaranteed nothing.

elmaton981100d ago

@ tkcmuzzer

Sadly all the features that the xb1 brought to the table will only be available on the US, and the rest of the world will have just a gaming console for quite some if not longer

The_Con-Sept1100d ago

@Nukeitall:

#1. Only certain XB1 games can actually support that function. And the PSPGo already did it.

#2. Uh what? Most HDTV's come standard with 2 HDMI inputs. Putting an HDMI signal through a hoop is scientifically unsound and a waste of power. Why the hell would I want to put a PS4, Cable box, or any other HDMI input into the Xbox one just to see it on my Xbox one? I already have a second input and I don't feel like paying more money to my electric company. Nor do I want another pay wall disfunction. Your #2 reason is not an advantage at all.

#3. Valid. But I could just see it now as I did at my friends house with the current kinect. It will listen for you and you might say something similar to "socks are put on." And the console will misinterpret it as "Xbox turn on." Why do you think no one ever talks about the wave functions on the Xbox 360 kinect?

#4. Ahahahahahaha. Sorry had to let it out. Look at the current kinect. Any movement while playing a game or watching movies it will think you are trying to give it a command. Again no one likes the wave control scheme. That's why no one talks about it but you.

#5. Distractions. Ever listen to sports radio today? All I hear every ten seconds is "hashtag." Why? Because they are twit faces. So I guess the twit face mode has made it on to the Xbox one for tv that you have to pay for. Have fun being distracted on a stupid poll instead of actually watching and or playing the game.

#6. Oooooo. So innovative..... Seriously Nintendo tried this with a full body suit.... It didn't work out too well. The touch pad on the PS4 Dualshock 4 makes Xbox one gamers flailing their arms around look like monkeys..... Laters.

RememberThe3571100d ago

@Gman0174: Or maybe Xbox fans aren't making very good arguments. I love that I can switch from TV to game seamlessly. But to say he PS4 couldn't or isn't going to do that is just ill-informed. And dragging about rumbling triggers and an HDMI in? Really? SO I have to press a button on my controller instead of my TV? Not too enticing.

I love the Xbone now but Kinect can kiss my ass. And I've said this all along as long as Kinect is needed I will not buy this console.

BallsEye1100d ago

@DigitalRaptor

You fanboys are so funny. You name features of ps4 that were never mentioned anywhere before. Each time someone says XO1 can do something you just slap" ps4 can do it too but better!" I'd love to see it do those things, or atleast hear from some official PR.

H0RSE1100d ago (Edited 1100d ago )

@punisher99

"Name 5 things the xbox1 can do that the ps4 cant."

Challenge accepted:

1. Can work with the Kinect
2. Will use XBL for online gaming
3. Has access to Azure
4. Can work with SmartGlass
5. Will play the next Halo game

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Mikeyy1101d ago

Suddenly every Xbox fanboy thinks they are game developers and know how to program...

None of you will be using the dev kit features its not a selling point what so ever to the consumer.

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CerebralAssassin1101d ago

Yet everyone was using the fact ms wasnt supporting indie games as ammo like it was going out of style less then a month ago. Hypocritical comment there.

quenomamen1100d ago

No kidding, yea I expect there to be a crapload of indie games made by people who think DDR3 RAM is equal to DDR5 or who think " Teh Cloud " is gonna make their system more powerful. Im sure the guys over at Naughty Dog are pissing in they pants right now, Lol

nukeitall1100d ago

I used XNA, which is an identical system for Xbox 360. Yes, it was before Sony's newfound love for indies.

Many might not use the dev kit feature, but many will reap the rewards that come from that (albeit 99.99% of indie games are pure [email protected]).

DragonKnight1100d ago

I predict the devkit feature will not last and will be next gen's "OtherOS" scandal that Xbox One fanboys will try to put under the rug.

SephirothX211100d ago

I'm a programmer and have created my owner game engine with DirectX 11 that can probably be used for Xbox One so it does interest me. Only problem is I use PhysX and Xbox One has an AMD gpu meaning the physics computations would be done on the cpu which is significantly slower. Though I can change to Havok or Bullet. I agree though that most gamers can't program so it won't be a big selling point but it is a nice feature none the less.

I_am_Batman1100d ago

It's still a really great feature for people that can develop games. No need to play it down. The price of the console doesn't change and it could make developing for the X1 very easy. I think this is a huge step for MS. I hope for more details soon.

kenshiro1001100d ago

@ DonFreezer

You didn't even refute what he just said.

RememberThe3571100d ago

@Seph: Sorry to break to you but there aren't that many of you out there. When your talking about features that make a console desirable and one guy out of a hundred chimes in, you know it's not a selling point. However, at the face of it, it does seem like an awesome switch.

Bladesfist1100d ago

Another game developer here. You will be suprised by how many game developers are on this site.

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andrewsqual1101d ago

@No_Limit
-How is releasing games 4 months after their release date on your servers to avoid any major bandwidth great?
-Xbox Live doesn't have a subscription that when you first sign up you get to download 14 games that averagely total 90gbs.
-Xbox Live digital games always had a measly cap of the times 2gbs being the current limit in 2013 (PSN in 2006 never had a limit whatsoever).
-Xbox Live games are very limited in advanced terms i.e never got an advanced shooting game like MAG 256 players in 2010 and Resistance 2 60 player online in 2008. Let alone awesome omline only games like Warhawk in 2007!!!

Sorry just thought I would give you a list since you wanted one so much above. A list above that you are requesting that you yourself won't even do.
Xbox Live doesn't touch PSN in terms of advancement.
You just pay a fee to play online.

If Microsoft introduced a Gold membership tomorrow that was €15 a year just to be able to play online and not do any of the other stuff Gold forces you to pay for and 100 people's membership was running out in 2 days, I guarantee you, that over 90% would get the cheaper membership because THAT is the only reason they are paying for Gold because they have to.

You would think at this stage they would have announced "cross buy" between Xbox One and Windows 8 games because THAT is what matters to you the customer. Oh and having to own Windows 8 and a rip off tablet device too to take full advantage of the "integration" as you call it.

Edit why am i even wasting my time? Its like talking to s stubborn mule. Keep telling yourself Kevin Bacon wasn't in Footloose too :)

CerebralAssassin1101d ago

Fyi MAG was terrible. Just because it was 256 players it doesnt make it good. The game lagged like hell. And it didnt even feel like 128vs128. Not saying i disagree with u but the mag game was a bad example.

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blanket141100d ago

resistance is 64 players online just sayin

ThanatosDMC1100d ago

@cerebralass

Wtf are you talking about? MAG did not lag.

RememberThe3571100d ago

@Ass: I played MAG quite a bit. It never lagged. It wasn't very good but that was purely on the design side. Planetside 2 would be a better example but I do wonder how big those battles can get with so many people and how well the servers will be able to handle that.

PickAShoe1100d ago

@CerebralAssassin Goes to show that not everyone have good internet connection :P

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SeanScythe1101d ago

Please enlighten us as to what that is, and don't BS with "The Cloud" crap.

HiddenMission1101d ago

@No_Limit

You do a lot of assuming in your comments. I know many of my friends who own both prefer PS+ over XBLG. Even if you do prefer the current version of XBLG how can you say it will continue to be superior to a future service that has yet to be released or even fully demonstrated...so yeah you assume a lot.

Godlovesgamers1101d ago

Well it's too bad "thinking" doesn't make it "reality".

Laneljh1100d ago

Microsoft has had to alter their policies more than once, whereas Sony has not had to change a single thing. If anything, Microsoft has been a huge embarrassment this year so far. The Xbox One is in fact bringing some cool things to the table, but I don't think anything they are doing is a deal breaker. The $100 price difference IS a deal breaker, though, which is why Sony has a huge lead on Microsoft right now. Granted, the PS4 Eye does not come with the PS4, but it also isn't required. Unlike the Kinect, which is required. But stating that there are things the Xbox One can do that the PS4 can't is a statement that can go both ways, as there are also things the PS4 offers that the Xbox One cannot, such as screen sharing and remote play via the PS Vita.

JamieL1100d ago (Edited 1100d ago )

That’s because Sony is taking the 360's proven successful model and used it for the PS4. They don't have to change anything they already know the strategy works, whereas MS is trekking on unexplored soil. Now I’m not going to take too much time wasting my breath positively talking about MS, well not even positively, just objectively is plenty enough to get mobbed here at N4(Sony)G, but at least MS is trying something new. I mean don’t get me wrong we know what we’re getting from Sony. A bad ass gen full of good games with cutting edge graphics and all the power you can handle. Sony is very good at what they do, and they will deliver. To me though the simple fact we know what to expect is the biggest fault with Sony's plan to me. I mean it’s the same thing as this gen, and to be honest besides the major focus on internet connectivity from this gen it’s been the same since the PS1. I’m ready for something new. I don't just want prettier games with more bad guys and no loading times. I have no clue if MS will deliver on anything they say, they have a lot to prove, but I do see them working towards the future a lot more than the PS4. I understand why too, Sony has to play it safe and smart this gen. MS has more flexibility in this regard, in my opinion, and that’s why I am more interested in the XB1.
How much stuff did Sony change with the PS3 with each new model? See even the great Sony’s changed policies before.

DigitalRaptor1100d ago (Edited 1100d ago )

@ JamieL

Do any of us really know what Sony/developers are going to do with the DualShock 4's touchpad and new rumble motors that have the ability to provide more subtle touches of rumble, or the light bar that can enhance player mood, or change based on a gameplay element or detect player position and switch around in splitscreen games?

Do we know in detail what Sony are going to add to the OS? The PS4 OS is going to be completely different to XMB so it's all brand new stuff, the multi-tasking and instant gaming and sharing and connectivity features are all new. We haven't even seen half of what it will do.

Have we been clued in on the breadth of Gaikai and PS+ with PS4? We know about game streaming but you can bet that it won't end there.

The PS4 camera, just like Kinect will afford new possibilities. What these are, who knows? It won't be for everybody and it's not going to be the future of games, but it's a nice addition and will provide something different.

PS4 remote play and deep native integration with PS Vita means that if you own both systems, they have the ability to feed off each other for some really inventive things. Think Wii U, but broader.

The PSN has recently undergone reconstruction to take advantage of many different devices such as tablets, phones, smart TVs, PCs etc. What you saw in Dead Rising 3 demo with the person calling in an air strike from a tablet? That is also similar to what Sony has been working on and putting R&D towards for PS4 and there have been a few examples. Did you see the Playroom demo? New things are happening all the time if you look out for them.

This all sounds like I'm trying to sell it I know, but this stuff is just common sense. I'm just thinking logically about what the implications of all of the assets are for PS4 and PSN, that many people are labelling as PS3.5 - the ones who REALLY want it to just be a PS3.5.

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What do you refer to when you're talking about Microsoft and unexplored soil and "flexibility"? The cloud? Or something else?

JamieL1100d ago (Edited 1100d ago )

@ DigitalRaptor
No I'm saying MS is trying new things and Sony is doing the same thing the xbox 360 did. LOL I find it so funny folks like you will hype a touchpad and dismiss Kinect as a gimmick. I mean we all have a right to form our own opinions, but to not see Sony's playing it safe as hell this gen your lying to yourself, or blind, or just plain stupid. I understand why, Sony tried that this gen and it failed, yes they picked their asses up, learned their lesson and kicked ass after, but back then YOU were fine with Sony doing it, to the point I could see you really going to war and killing people to defend Sony's honor, but now all of a sudden everyone is talking about how much they want everything to stay the same, just prettier. I do think MS has a lot to prove and there's no doubt about that, but I'm going to see FIRST before I make such "matter-of-fact" judgments about it, and apparently folks like you on this site don't tolerate that kind of logic.

Allsystemgamer1100d ago

Wow. Uh. The ps4 can do everything the x1 can.

T21100d ago

"no HDMI in sez hi" LOL ....
wake me up when MS makes a game console with great games i can't get anywhere else...

1. HDMI in ... and my yamaha avr has 6 hdmi in, who cares?

2. Voice activation. "xbox on"... uhh... what about my ps3, avr, tv, etc... its called a logitech harmony remote... let me know when xbox reveals their "play ps3 bluray" voice activation and then .... I will still choose to push just one button, LOL

3. Sports - I watch a ton of sports, fantasy sports, etc... That's why I have apps on my phone and my laptop so I can monitor them while I game on my TV.

4. Multitasking ... that's what the xmb on ps3 was for.

5. Better online service = long standing fallacy only put forth by foaming at the mouth xbots. EA has terrible servers, Warhawk, Halo had better ones... not related to console.

6. Motion control - PSEye (yawn) apparently the new pseye has all sorts of innovation, still don't care.

7. rumble in the triggers - really? this is just getting desperate now... ps elite headset has a bass "thumper" too, but you don't see every ps fanboy raging about that in every article.

Basically show me a system with games, more better games, and fast load times, cool features (for GAMES) and I'm there. but nukeitall's list is terrible

JamieL1100d ago (Edited 1100d ago )

Wow Joe, so you would rather bring 20 different devices into your living room than just one?
Let me see if I'm getting your message clear, the XBone sucks because there exist devices that can do one, or a couple of the same functions it can?
I mean with that attitude couldn't I say I don't need a PS4 because my SNES plays games, my laptop can get online, and my DVD player is already black. I mean getting one device that does everything you just listed sounds cool to me.

SegaSaturn6691100d ago

I think PRISM should subsidize the XBone to reduce the cost, then I might consider buying one.

Omegasyde1100d ago

If this is true, there will be an exploit to run pirated images.

Once someone figures that out, Xbox1 will go back to DRM policies.

Sure you could do this For Ps4 dev kits, but those are itemized. Once Sony figures out who it is, they can put a block on it via Hardware MAC address and then punish the person legally.

If every Xbox can run in debug mode and the Window's OS Kernal is hacked. Xbox1 owners are #%$@#%

Don't believe me? Look at why Sony took out Linux support.

kenshiro1001100d ago

After that PR stunt at E3 and their press conference, I doubt it.

assdan1100d ago

There really isn't anything. I don't really care about my voice being replaced by the tv video button.

showtimefolks1100d ago

the only advantage MS has is that they can produce more xbox one units at launch, other than that sony has it all for me personally

People say MS had to target the casuals with kinect and TV/Entertainment crowd because the core market isn't that big, and that is why ms supported casuals more in last 3 years. Than how come ps3 kept selling and passes xbox360 with a year late start? core market is as big as 150-200 million but mostthink its 20 million

sony has the development studios
120 games in development
40 exclusives/exclusive content
12-15 new Ips
20 games coming within first 12 months
drive club free with psn plus
psn plus better service to me than xblive
priced $399
doesn't force me with motion controller/camera
controller has been improved and many developers have said they now prefer it over the xbox one

Sony has a long history of delivering games, their word means more to me at face value than MS. MS will push those DRM policies down the road even phil spencer said that in a tweet

Someone asked "If I buy a Xbox One, do I have to fear that the DRM stuff will return this generation?"
Response "Split will likely be digital vs. physical. Physical will feel like today. For digital we'll push features we discussed at E3"

so yeh sony has the advantage, people are saying well ms have taken back everything and now self publishing, well sony had that back in February 2013, sony announced many of these self publishing features at GDC while MS is doing it now

sony has the advantage in Japan
sony has the advantage in Europe
sony has gained back the US market in a big way, if it was 75-25 before in favor of MS now its 50-50 if not sony getting more than 50%

Jury1100d ago

Agree with what you wrote mostly but evidence seems to point to Sony is producing more units at launch

showtimefolks1100d ago

Jury

believe me that would be great so as many people can get it. There was a report few days ago that said MS may be able to put more systems in store shelf during launch, but i think the reason for that is sony is launching world wide while MS in 21 countries

more systems on shelf maybe just for USA.

ps4 is gonna sell like hot cakes world wide, here in the states some maybe have an opinion of only buying american product but world wide quality counts, and sony is known for quality

what also helps them is the lower price point

there was a ps4 on ebay that sold for $850 so if there is a shortage of systems watch the price spike

i have 15-20 gaming friends, 4 of us had ps3 while others xbox360, now all 20 of us are getting ps4 and we all live in USA. so i don't believe the news that MS has the USA market pat down, i also know many others who have told me and others that they are making the switch to the Darkside lol

i guess time to bring back my avatar

come to the darkside we have cookies lol

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