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Submitted by TheNewSquid 933d ago | opinion piece

Where Did the JRPG Go?

GeekParty's Shelby Reiches writes: "Starting out in a JRPG always used to hit me with this tingling rush, my taste for adventure whet, my interest in the goings on piqued by writing that aimed to infuse its characters with strong, apparent personalities." (Blue Dragon, Chrono Trigger , Culture, Final Fantasy X, Legend of Legaia, Lost Odyssey, Retro, Shadow Hearts, Xenogears)

bicfitness  +   933d ago
To the portable and mobile space. More than a few stragglers on the PS3 - Atelier, Neptunia, Ni No Kuni, Xillia, etc - and "X" on the Wii U. That's about it for HD consoles.
Brucis  +   933d ago
Portables mainly, such as the PSP, DS, 3DS and Vita.
XboxFun  +   933d ago
There are a crap load for portables. I think a lot of JRPG developers got scared with the whole HD consoles and having to pretty up their games.

But lets hope this changes with the new consoles. Graphics aren't everything.
Lovable  +   933d ago
True. But seriously, would you pay $60 dollars for a PS2 graphics in HD when you can buy Western RPG games with top notch graphics?
XboxFun  +   933d ago
Yea, I can see where you are coming from. I probably wouldn't, but if it's a game like Earthbound or FF III(NA) I would gladly buy a crap ton digitally for a fair price.
Lovable  +   933d ago
I agree. But classics like that are rarity nowadays. You will probably see one in handhelds.
kalkano  +   932d ago
Yes, I would. I'd be thrilled for that. Can we finally join the PS3 gen, 7-8 years later, now that PS4 is coming out?
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rainslacker  +   932d ago
I would. Depending on the quality of the game of course. That $60 would probably provide a lot more game play and content than most other $60 games that get released each month.

Graphics don't have to be amazing, and with JRPG anime graphics being simpler by default, there is no reason why these games can't release on the home console and still sell. People who like this kind of stuff don't need Advent Children quality CG visuals. just a strong story, fun game play, and likable characters. That's the reason they sell so well on portables...because there is a market for it. In the case of JRPG's, the market went to handhelds because that's where the games were that they wanted to play. No different than in the PS1 and PS2 days when people moved to Sony from Nintendo.

These past few years PS3 has been getting quite a few good JRPG's, mostly through the efforts of Atlus and NISA. I am very thankful for it because their absence was quite noticeable the first 3-4 years of the PS3's life. I hope and pray that the PS4 does not suffer this same problem, and would love a resurgence of the PS1/2 glory days of having to pick which one to get as opposed to waiting months for the next one to come out. This year though has been pretty good for them.
specialguest  +   933d ago
Yeap. A lot of those jrpg devs don't have the square-enix budget to go HD console graphics standards. I'm hoping when next-gen is here, they should at least develop current gen level graphics games.
dcj0524  +   932d ago
Its ironic because the VITA is HD so they kind of have to do it anyway.
jcnba28  +   933d ago
3DS.
Lord_Sloth  +   933d ago
You could have chosen a better picture.
JoshEngen  +   933d ago
Are you sure? That seems like an almost perfect picture.
Unlimax  +   933d ago
OP , how about changing the thumbnail to something like this 一_一

http://samzodiac2.files.wor...
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wishingW3L  +   933d ago
because that's Tidus face of frustration because there are no Jrpgs.
Unlimax  +   932d ago
Wai-.... Ohhhhhhh

give me a sec ..
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Kyosuke_Sanada  +   932d ago
I think the teedus picture is much more superior.

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Unlimax  +   933d ago
Double post .. my bad ~ x3
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Panthers  +   933d ago
I guess the development costs were too high for main consoles. I am playing through FF7 again (Steam) and god I miss these games. FF15 looks amazing of course but its not old school.
guiltl3ss  +   933d ago
I'm guessing they went to Japan, or rather stayed whence they came since Westerners are wont to criticize them.
rainslacker  +   932d ago
No doubt. I hate seeing reviews of JRPG's from people who so obviously hate the genre. I believe they are entitled to their opinion, but most of the time their bias is so transparent. Sometimes a reviewer has to consider what the target audience wants, as opposed to deducting points because of a cultural difference in presentation.
Inception  +   932d ago
Agreed. I don't understand why western reviewer are so critical to JRPG's. They complain about JRPG is the same old thing with saving the world, same gameplay mechanic, yada yada yada. But the majority of them gave 9 or 10 like candies for games like CoD that had the same gameplay only with different skin every f*kin year!
Dj7FairyTail  +   933d ago
On 3DS and DS. Also Tales games and Three Wii RPG and Arc Rise Fantasia.

Mainly JRPG I played in the last 7 years.
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Summons75  +   933d ago
Nowhere. They are still here they are just evolving with the times, innovating and growing as a genre. As much as I love jrpg's of old, people need to get over themselves and stop pretending they died. Sure they went back to a niche status compared to other gens but they are still very much alive.
kalkano  +   932d ago
They didn't evolve. They ceased to exist, and were replaced with an entirely different genre.
Summons75  +   932d ago
>.> Jrp = Japanese Role playing game. There are still role playing games being made by Japanese developers. Just because they are adapting with the times does not mean they are dead. Turn base RPGs use to be turn by turn, then came the ATB turn based system....still turn based but with a bar that allows the progression of the battle quickly. Now we have games with real time combat in traditional battle screen or just plain real time. Final fantasy 13 used the ATB system and everyone freaked because it was difficult because of the paradigm shifts, which weren't too different from the ffx character change just adapted and added atb to keep the pace up.

Developers need to adapt with the times just like they always have. Console gaming is doing bigger and better things than it could in nes /snes/ps1 eras. Traditional turn based can work but it adds a longer play time. Handheld gaming is perfect right now for traditional turn based but that's growing up too.

Stop living in the past and expecting something that gaming will never be again.
kalkano  +   932d ago
That's the problem. Some people put it in the past, when it doesn't belong there. There is still an audience for turn-based RPGs on consoles. What you meant to say is, "I don't like turn-based RPGs". <- And that's fine. Absolutely nothing wrong with that. But, stop trying to tell others not to like it.
Summons75  +   932d ago
Are you daft? I said I love traditional RPGs, hell I grew up on them but that still doesn't change the fact that times are changing and devs need to adapt to generate sales. Not cater to adults born between 1980 and 1995. Devs needs to grow with the time and the fact is games with the traditional take on turn based don't sell well. Lost Odyssey was one of my top RPGs this gen but that doesn't change the fact it sold poor because of the traditional turn based gameplay. Even Ni No kuni wasn't the turn base you want all Jrpgs to be and that game is great too. Turn based sells well on handhelds but that's because it that's where it works now unfortunately. No where did I say I don't like turn base and you completely missed the point of what a lot of devs say in interviews. Again take off the nostalgia glasses.
rainslacker  +   932d ago
Even back in the day JRPG's weren't all turn based. The genre is actually pretty diverse. ARPG, SRPG, classic RPG, etc. I think JRPG is just a way to lump them all into a certain criteria.

The games still exist. DS, 3DS, PSP all have them in abundance. Sometimes they innovate, sometimes they play it safe, but there are plenty of good ones to choose from.

I think that the console JRPG releases have dropped off considerably this gen, particularly in the early cycle. Since to a lot of people the home console is all that matters, it gives the impression that JRPG's have gone away, however there are more JRPG's being released now than in the past when mobile platforms are taken into consideration. Not just small titles either, but ones that would be considered top notch...possibly AAA...titles.
kewlkat007  +   933d ago
JRPG's are going the way of the doo doo...

I miss the late 90's early 2000s...

SNES/PS1/Dreamcast/PS2 JRPGs
kalkano  +   932d ago
True. And I've been struggling to understand why for this entire generation. I still don't understand, and I don't think I ever will. Other people's tastes are very weird, to me.
Treian  +   932d ago
Tales games are still going strong :)
MWH  +   932d ago
this way:

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Inception  +   932d ago
Ermm, they still exist on consoles. I'm playing Ni no Kuni right now and also waiting Dragon's Crown, Tales of Xillia, Disgaea D2, and The Guided Fate Paradox. Next year we've got Tales of Symphony HD, Tales of Xillia, Dark Souls 2, Atelier Escha & Logy, and hopefully Drakengard 3.

But like the other member said, there's tons of JRPG on portable. Shin Megaten IV, Ys Celcetea, Bravely Default, Etrian Odyssey, and many more. Buy 3DS and Vita if you want to play those games :)
kalkano  +   932d ago
Of everything you mentioned, I may give Bravely Default a chance, and that's it.

Problem #1 with that list: HOLY ACTION-RPG! Almost ALL OF THEM!

Problem #2: I have a big screen TV to play my games on. I don't want to sit in the corner and look down at a tiny screen in my hand.
Inception  +   932d ago
1) Almost all of them?
- Disgaea D2 and The Guided Fate Paradox are Tactical RPG
- SMT IV and Etrian Odyssey are dungeon crawler with turn-based RPG
- Bravely Default and Atelier Escha are classic turn-based RPG.

The only tittles that action RPG are Dragon's Crown, Tales, Dark Souls 2, and Drakengard 3.

But what is the big problem anyway? Mass Effect, Skyrim, The Witcher, and Fallout also action RPG and i don't saw people complaining about that. To me, action RPG or not, if the game got great story, gameplay, and music than it's a must play.

2) Lol, why you're must playing handheld in the corner? But well, it's your problem anyway. If me, i don't really care with tiny screen cause i don't want to missed out great games ;)
Hicken  +   932d ago
It seems more like you just don't want to like JRPGS. You're not as bad as a CrossingEden, but you still seem to be trying to find reasons to not like the games, instead of acknowledging there are reasons TO like them.
AWBrawler  +   932d ago
i'm pretty sure the JRPGs are on the portables and Wii. its just a lot of people overlook those
SegaGamer  +   932d ago
I have played/heard of plenty of JRPG's this gen, yes they are not as common as in the 90's but come on, there was so many in that time it would be ridiculous to think we would have the same amount now.
TheDivine  +   932d ago
SMT4, DQX, DQ7 remake, Xenoblade, The Last Story, Xenoblade 2, Etrian Odyssey, Fire Emblem, Project X Zone, Tales of Xillia, Ni No Kuni, FF15, FF 13-2, Kingdom Hearts DDD, Devil Survivor, Lost Odyssey, Resonance of Fate, Magna Carta 2, SMT Soul Hackers, Valkyria Chronicles, Persona 4 Golden exc.

Best gen ever for jrpgs IMO. Yes big budget console jrpgs have dried up compared to the last two gens but there's still amazing ones releasing and the portables have been on fire. Anyone who says handheld jrpgs aren't as good needs to play SMT4, Fire Emblem Awakening, TWEWY, Radiant Historia, Strange Journey exc. SMT4 is better than any Persona or even Nocturne on tv. Thing about this genre is it translates well onto the small screen, its a very personal experience that certain games seem tailor made for. I do miss the ps2 era traditional FF turn based style RPGs though. Lost Odyssey was the last great one (and my personal fave) before they went handheld or moved on to more modern/action type battle systems. That's one type of jrpg I miss but the genre as a whole is alive and well. With SMT x Fire Emblem, Monoliths X, FF15, KH3 and others on the horizon its a bright future.
kewlkat007  +   932d ago
"Best gen ever for jrpgs IMO."- BS

You must of just started playing video games..

That's Ok too.
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