Microsoft to Game Front: "We have no plans to introduce an Xbox One without Kinect. We believe in Kinect and the value it brings to both games and entertainment, and believe $499 is a great value for what consumers receive with their Xbox One.”
Hope it's true Was it that hard to listen to what most gamers actually want. I find it a little funny how they would be going back on everything they revealed the Xbox One to be. If they had done a DRM-Kinect-less console in the first place they wouldn't have such a huge s*** storm on their hands.
Thats a shame they're not actually doing it, the Xbox One would appeal to way more people at a cheaper price and without forced Kinect
it can still appeal at a cheaper price but kinect still comes with it. for many, price is the only factor and those that cant get it at the initial price will likely get one when it gets cheaper. Price is an obstruction and when you remove the obstruction then there is no more excuse to hold out. Unless there was no desire to begin with. edit: its easy to say now that you "dont want to use" because we dont have it yet. The implementation and how it integrates is something that needs to be experienced before we decide. It will be better than the existing kinect and the existing kinect isnt that bad to begin with so I am optimistic that it will be better received and supported.
@darthv72 Not really because in most peoples eyes your still paying for something in the box which you don't want to use. Everytime the price comes down you'll still be thinking in the back of your head "This could of been even cheaper without Kinect"
From the article UPDATE: We received a comment denying this story from a Microsoft spokesperson. Here’s the quote: “We have no plans to introduce an Xbox One without Kinect. We believe in Kinect and the value it brings to both games and entertainment, and believe $499 is a great value for what consumers receive with their Xbox One.”
It would be a terrible shame if revolutionary technology was ignored by developers if it didn't have the proper push and adoption by consumers. MS keeping Kinect standard and included in every box is the right decision. If you are so against Kinect, don't buy an Xbox One and buy a PS4. Don't turn my Xbox One into an suped up PS3! I want to see what Kinect can do!!!
When they realize that their console isn't selling due to the high price they'll think twice. But they're definitely unsure about what they want. Soon they'll say exactly opposite off what they just said like they said digital and always connected is the future. To be continued...
"It would be a terrible shame if revolutionary technology was ignored by developers if it didn't have the proper push and adoption by consumers." It wouldn't be the first time tech died because of consumer apathy, but I don't see how Kinect is revolutionary tech since a lot of what Kinect does is already doable with other products. That includes using voice and gestures to control devices and making Skype calls on your TV. Those things will be standard in new smart TVs before long, and there are already devices that allow gesture control without a camera, which does away with PRISM related concerns.
They already invested so much money on R&D, If they do so then investors wont be happy.
Kinect is part of the package. It is not a forced peripheral, its an essential component. Anyone who says otherwise is kidding themselves and spinning BS. Lets hope morons let this issue lie sooner rather than later. Though, if they haven't gotten the message by now, they probably never will.
abzdine...digital and always connected are the future. Even sony knows that. anytime you see sony talk about the PS4 they touch just a bit on the offline part but they focus more on the online part. they know a connected console is the direction they see the industry going. People want to whoop and hollar at being offline when sony doesnt want people to do that. its there but how many will really buy a ps4...an internet enabled device...just to sit offline? the percentage will be extremely low. Given the success of the ps3 online the ps4 is pretty much counting on it being the online successor and drive home the idea of being online is where its at. As far as digital goes...we have been digital for many years now. It is just the evolution of convenience and distribution. will there be a much higher DD presence this gen than last? Absolutely. will people really care about the increased number of Day 1 digital? Absolutely. will it be a negative response? not in the least. There is more benefit to the DD this gen than previous. that convenience is something that will not be overlooked this time around.
Nope, Kinect now, not later. We already know what happens when they introduced Kinect later in the gen before, and it wasn't pretty. I think people need to quit wining and deal with Kinect being in there. MS will have the ability to market the entire premise of the console. Instead of separating the market as well as its fanbase. People complain now but in a year or two they'll get over it, trust me.
@AngelicIceDiamond Thats your solution..."get over it" <sigh> No wonder companies treat us like crap when people like you just tell us to deal with it. Like Adam Orth Junior.
@ darthv72 "As far as digital goes...we have been digital for many years now. It is just the evolution of convenience and distribution." While the above is true; It's also true that MS did not have to mandate that future. The mandate was the problem. It's far better to let natural consumer progression take place. I personally only buy digital music.. but could still pick up a CD if I really wanted to. We can agree on this :)
It's crazy people are complaining about something that come with the console that would more than likely would be more if sold separate. Besides the fact that the console is built from the ground up to include the device just like the normal controller, it cost's $400 for the windows version of Kinect 2.0.
I agree with Abash. I would be much more interested in the xbone if I wasn't forced to take the kinect spy camera and they reduced the price to 349.99. I mean without the camera and with weaker specs 349.99 would be a fair price.
@Malokevi: "Kinect is part of the package. It is not a forced peripheral, its an essential component." Please explain how it is an "essential component" if the UI can still be navigated and 99% of games can still be played with Kinect's functionality completely disabled (but not unplugged). If the console can still be used without Kinect functionality, then by definition it is not "an essential component."
@ShwankyShpanky ...because it needs to be there for the console to work? lol...
bull s#it, the Kinect is the biggest defining difference between the XBOX ONE and the PS4. If MS was to take that away, it would be the biggest mistake to date.
Thats stupid everyone shut up they have to go all in or developers will not use it. See how much developers used the PS3 controller for motion control, yeah they didnt because it was half assed.
once everyone sees the advantages of having Kinect you will all want xbox one.
^^^ - said no one ever. There, finished your sentence off for you.
Maybe MS should meet consumers half way.... Make the One usable without an attached Kinnect? At least it's there if a game requires it.... Would certainly comfort people concerned about the privacy issues.
Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hah *croak. I just died laughing. Seriously though forcing kinect down peoples throats as a box in, then the next thing you know every game will require its use. Then people will revolt about it online. Then they will launch a kinect-less bundle with another 180. Man the corporate adbox 180 is in a serious tail spin.
@Abash keep pushing for it and maybe they will listen. the DRM is no more, now self-publishing is in place...who's to say that there won't be kinect-free Xbone later?
So sonyfanboys with a history of trolling xbox want a X1 without kinect, yeah sure OK, fortunately it ain't happening.
@jokesonyou Are you joining on the "only sony fanboys hate on Xbox" bandwagon? No matter how many times you or anyone else tries to play down the scale of the Xbox hate, it doesn't change the fact there are a good number of Xbox 360 owners and former Xbox fanboys who have no interest in Kinect what so ever and most likely won't be buying an Xbox One on launch because of that/higher price.
Your proof? nah, you got nothing to go on, you're just here to troll another Kinect thread. Unlike you heres my logic based on what I see + understanding human behavior + reasonable assumptions, n4g is the test sample, I don't know every xbox or sony fan on n4g but I've been a member here long enough to know the vast majority. A quick count of lets just say the last 10 kinect related threads and I cant find more than one member who has been mostly a supporter of xbox or clearly unbiased history who wants kinect removed from X1. As for 99% of those who have clearly been negative about anything xbox/micro related its no question they have been and continue to be negatively biased towards kinect. So therefore understanding this and knowing they have a history of trolling 360 its quite obvious this is more hate, and its laughable for them to even pretend suddenly they want a X1 without kinect, basically nothings changed. Nobody, not even sonyfanboys believe that sonyfanboys want a X1 without kinect, you and I know sonyfanboys don't want an X1 period, its rhetoric to hide your jealousy for fear somebody might enjoy something different than the ps4.
Hope its not...
Wasn't going to buy one anyway, but if they did decide to do a kinect less bundle I might have considered a look into one. Oh well.
Kinect is the only reason I have am buying the PS4 over it. I don't like the idea of having a camera on me all the time. I am not worried about what it means for gaming, I am just a bit 1984 paranoid. Now DRM is gone, the other elements of the console, including its game line up looks pretty good.
@Kurt The lineup looks good only game that has my interest is Quantum Break the others not so much, but I can see it does for others. Microsoft has to prove to me that they can provide me with a variety of exclusives that would make me want to spend my money on it. As for kinect I don't care about and since its mandatory looks like there won't be one in my apt for the foreseeable future.
Yeah games are subjective, different strokes for different folks ;) Personally the two games I want most are multiplat. BF4 and the Division. So I am happy to get them on a PS4.