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Submitted by halocursed 400d ago | news

Contrast Dev: "Very Little Difference Between Versions on PS4 and High End PC"

"It's often been the case that the PlayStation 4, and the Xbox One for that matter, won't be as powerful as the most high-end PCs. Of course, given the architecture and how easy it is to developer for the PS4 compared to the PS3, it would make multi-platform development all the easier for the next generation." (PS4)

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Smoovekid  +   400d ago
Great news.
The_Infected   400d ago | Trolling | show | Replies(17)
MariaHelFutura  +   400d ago | Well said
Great news is what the Ps4 does. Seriously, everything you hear about the console is positive.
Bathyj  +   400d ago
A far cry from the ps3s launch. Its been an incredible turnaround for peoples perception of Sony. They just seems to be ticking every box.
hellvaguy  +   400d ago
Well besides mandatory paid online. But its really not too terribly expensive.
malokevi  +   400d ago
What it does, it does great. However, there are a few things it doesn't do, which adds credence to the competition.
andibandit  +   400d ago
Youre all reading way to much into this....

First of all the article should read:

Indie Game "Contrast" will look almost the same on PS4 and High end PC.

Second of all we can begin to question why that is. Is it because:

1. PS4 is as powerful as a high end PC?.
Answer = LOL

2. Is it because it's a indie game, that could hardly stress a high end PC?.
Answer = Perhaps

3. Is it because Sam Abbot is the PR manager at Compulsion games and dosn't want to downplay either version.
Answer = Bingo

Now dont get me wrong i have my PS4 preordered, but im not gonna loose all sense of criticism because of it.
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JunioRS101  +   400d ago
@ hellvaguy

Well, I'd actually rather pay for online multiplayer this time around so that they can actually raise some money to work on making their service faster/more dependable etc.

It seems like a very reasonable policy. After all, I've been paying $60/year for XBL for the last 6 years, so it'll be nice to cancel that and pick up PS+, which is clearly a better value, and in my opinion might even become the better service if Sony invests the raised PS+ funds into it.
stevehyphen  +   400d ago
@andibandit got it.

@JunioRS101 got it, too.

PS4 is not going to be more powerful than a good PC, although the hardware consistency allows for developers to get more out of a PS4 than if you had a PC with the exact same specs. A high or top end PC will always have more raw power to put out though.

I'm perfectly fine with paying to play online. I expected, and wanted, it to happen. Anything to make the service better. I'm not saying it was bad to begin with, but it definitely needed improvement. This benefits the consumer in another way in that Sony is now more accountable for anything that could happen in terms of outages and whatnot.
AuToFiRE  +   399d ago
I highly doubt its as powerful as a "High End PC." The specs shown at E3 would deliver 1.6 teraFLOPS while my 2 generation old graphics card ALONE still pumps out over 6 teraFLOPS
meetajhu  +   399d ago
It's a indie platformer and Ps4 image quality will be poor compared to PC.
RedHawkX  +   399d ago
yep thats why i dont understand why some people are getting an xbox one instead. it boggles my mind and xbox one is the one with a bazillion bad things about it.
Corpser  +   400d ago
Would it be great news if he said "very little difference between versions on ps4 and Xbox one?
Smoovekid  +   400d ago
Why are you bringing the Xbox One into this?
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dc1  +   400d ago
It would be better news.

Competition is always a good thing. The XBox Two is very likely to be much more performance orientated because of the associated criticisms at the One's architecture and lack of targeted high end graphic rendering (not my words, but MS's).

The 360 came out like gang busters because of previous lessons learned on the OXBox as well as building/improving on what made the PS2 dominant.

The PS3 services improved because MS had there stuff together with the 360. Sony couldn't just match them. They had to surpass expectations (PSPlus) to present a compelling argument (as there was none before) and to change the narrative at the time.

The PS4 (general launch experience and general perception) improved because Sony learned some hard lessons.

The XBox Two (general launch experience and general perception) will improve as well because MS will learn from prior mistakes as well.
MysticStrummer  +   400d ago
"Would it be great news if he said "very little difference between versions on ps4 and Xbox one?"

It wouldn't be any kind of news, since parity is the name of the game with console multiplats.
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Corpser  +   400d ago
@smoovekid

Because people here would have the opposite reaction. Ps4 fanboys want developers to take advantage of ps4 when compare to xb1, but don't want to heAr pc version looks better than ps4
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MasterCornholio  +   400d ago
Your hoping for him to say that or something?

This is just my opinion but developers should maximize the hardware on each platform. If console A is capable of rendering much better graphics than console B then i dont expect the two versions of the game to be the same. But if a super powerful console is limited by a vastly inferior one then the only ones who suffer are those that made the investment in the more powerful system which is unfair to me.
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NeoTribe  +   400d ago
Would it be great news if he said "very little difference between versions on xbox one and wii u"?
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Lior  +   400d ago
A low end AMD CPU and a low end GPU do not compare in any way to a high end CPU like a i7 4770k and a GPU like a gtx 770 or 780
wishingW3L  +   400d ago
and again you can't compare PC and consoles like that due to the fact that PC developers can't program to the metal, so most of that power of that high-end GPU will remain untouched.
HammadTheBeast  +   400d ago
Planetside 2 Max settings PS4.

Gtfo.
badz149  +   400d ago
@lior

don't take this the wrong way but you're being a dick! Steam statistics has shown that majority of pc gamers on Steam are on middle range setup! don't just come in here listing the highest end of cards available out there and pretend that all pc gamers have the same setup!

back on topic, what this Contrast dev is saying is, his game doesn't need thousands of dollars of a pc to be optimized. that is all!
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TIER1xWOLFPACKx  +   400d ago
You seem butthurt, have a snickers it will make you feel better. Anyway your disagreeing with developer that knows what he is talking about.
Joe913  +   400d ago
Who cares are your feelings hurt because he compared the next gen consoles to a high end pc. You must be a dev too or and has had first-hand experience with both of the next gen consoles right that’s how you know more about the next gen then this dev right lol are you trying to be a dick or are you trying to get ppl to game on pc instead of a console because I don't think it will work. Like I said before if that was such a huge factor I think more ppl would be gaming on computers and not consoles right. I really want to know why pc gamers come to these articles and try to sway ppl to game on pc or to try and trash console gaming IMO it is stupid I don’t get on pc website much do console gamers get on pc websites and bitch about how console gaming is better or is it only pc gamers that do that lol pathetic.
MasterCornholio  +   400d ago
Try playing Planetside 2 at max settings on a computer with a weak GPU and a Weak CPU and see what happens.
NeoTribe  +   400d ago
You must feel threatened coming out with a whiny comment like that. Go play minecraft.
Eldyraen  +   400d ago
Specs matter but games>specs. I game on PC as primary platform ATM but the article is right as nearly all PS4 games look as good or better than at least 75% of PC games of today. When it releases that might change though as new engines scale better (both up and down) so PC will see even better looking games as well.

To be honest I would be happy if many PC games looked as good as Killzone 3 or Infamous SS. We have some that look better but not all devs can afford or attempt that level of quality. When they do yes its usually better but that's the minority to be honest.
andibandit  +   400d ago
@TIER1xWOLFPACKx

"Anyway your disagreeing with developer that knows what he is talking about."

Sam Abbot is not a developer, he is the Public Relations Manager at Compulsion Games.....and the last thing he is gonna go out and say as PR manager is: our game on X totally sucks compared to our game on Y
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Metfanant  +   399d ago
And here comes Lior, another butt hurt PC fanboy that either A. Can't read or B. Simply can't comprehend what they are reading...

Once again NOBODY has said that the PS4 is more powerful than high end gaming rigs...yet the PC nut bags come running in here like their hair is on fire screaming about $600+ gpu's that cost more than an entire PS4 and how much more powerful they are than thr "low end cpu" and "low end GPU" found in the PS4...

Yet they all fail to realize that no by is arguing against them...and that there is NO WAY they could build a $400 complete PC that can match the specs/performance of a PS4
kikizoo  +   399d ago
Theory =/= real world

Even ps3 after 10 years can make games on par with best pc games, so for ps4, it would be ZERO problem.
ATi_Elite  +   400d ago
Contrast Dev: “Very Little Difference Between Versions on PS4 and High End PC”

So they made the game for the PS4 then ported to the PC. FACT.

I don't see a lot of bells and whistles in Contrast anyway. Right Now Arma 3 is the god of graphics and the upcoming StarCitizen will eclipse Arma 3.

Contrast is about as Graphical as America's McGee's Alice. (which was a fun game)
Metfanant  +   399d ago
There is no FACT that this is a PS4->PC port...what IS fact however is thay this game is not a technical tour de force and should run very similarly on a PC and a PS4...
Pain  +   400d ago
Compare a Console to a PC and in come the PC trolls.. and moron Xbots .. this generation is going to be full of idiots.. more so then the last.. fun times ahead all..
SignifiedSix91  +   400d ago
Don't forget the annoying sony zealots!
Autodidactdystopia  +   399d ago
you mean compare one person and another person and GOD forbid both of them want to participate in the discussion?

what?

I also do not consider myself an idiot, I feel that you just lack the knowhow to build a pc yourself, otherwise you would not be calling us idiots.

think outside of the box you just put yourself in.
Pain  +   399d ago
@ Auto llack of knowhow to build a PC? u talking to me lol? my rig is 2k+ i know how to build a rig..

Like i said this gen is going to be fun and full of idiots.. both sides..
Autodidactdystopia  +   399d ago
Yeah! ;) sure bro... sure
GDDR6_2014  +   400d ago
Great news when a developer doesn't optimize their game to a more powerful platform?
Metfanant  +   399d ago
Has nothing to do with optimization...this is not a technical monster of a game...its a smaller indie title...its never going to push hardcore PC hardware...and is not intended to do so...
gamernova  +   400d ago
The ps4 can play at resolutions beyond 1080p? PC gamers can :P
Smoovekid  +   400d ago
Hold on I'll go find someone who cares.
Major_Glitch  +   400d ago
Can PC gamers play while lounging on a couch? No? Moving on. The pc trolls just don't get it. Most people don't want to spend hundreds of dollars every few months constantly upgrading a rig, just so we can play our games hunched over a desk. I'll pay the one time fee to purchase my console of choice so that I can play games on me 50" hdtv while relaxing on me couch.
aquamala  +   400d ago
@Major_Glitch

of course we can, my gaming PC is right next to my consoles connected to the same 55" TV
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Autodidactdystopia  +   399d ago
@major.

yes. my daughters pc is connected to a 120 inch screen and it is entirely controlled by the xbox 360 controller.
It has all of their movies, all of their music, all of their games (snes,genesis,master syetem, n64,dreamcast,psx,ps2, gamecube, wii, and of course bout 30 PC games ranging from mw3 to crisis 2. its got a blu ray drive wifi N and a wireless 360 receiver all in a small compact package. about the size of a 360 original.

the only games it doesn't push 1080p with is crisis 1 and 2

the card they have installed is the 6770 low profile edition

all of this was built for 600 bucks in hardware.

all of the software can be launched closed and controlled no matter what console is playing via the 360 controller.

so in a long ass answer.. Yes and my kids love it.

oh and this pc has never been upgraded and is still trouncing the ps3 and 360 in terms of horsepower over a year after I bought it and built it.
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kikizoo  +   399d ago
Yep, better resolution...but less great games, and ugliar, like each generations.
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JunioRS101  +   400d ago
"Titanfall this, Titanfall that"

I'll take The Order: 1886, please.
ATi_Elite  +   392d ago
LOL you dam well know your butthurt cause PS4 is NOT getting Titanfall.
JsonHenry  +   400d ago
This will probably be the case for a short while like it was with the X360/PS3.

Typically the only differences were things like higher rez textures, advanced depth of field, farther LoS on objects, higher world density, stereoscopic 3D, and higher resolutions than 1080p and higher FPS than the standard 30-60fps.

So no, there won't be hardly any differences. /sarcasm

Enjoy the PS4 guys. Its going to be a monster of a console. But at the end of the day it is a console. PLEASE stop comparing it to other products like the PC. The comparison isn't fair and in the end it only makes you sound like an idiot.
ChrisW  +   400d ago
@Decrypt,

No one around here likes hearing such nonsense about PC gaming being better than console, regardless of how truthful or factual your arguments are.

So, plain and simple... You're a troll. But only because you're against the lowbrows of the gaming world.
otherZinc  +   399d ago
I'm sick if all this dam* talk...make a game that's 1080P native, running at 60fps at launch then...Or, stfu!

Talkin all that s**t!
Smoovekid  +   399d ago
BF4 and COD: Ghosts
RumbleFish  +   399d ago
The Infected gets Agree(144) | Disagree(20)and is bubbled down for trolling. This site's system is a mess.

Also the fanboys on this site are a shame.
ChrisW  +   399d ago
I agree... But, you've been a member here since 2008 and you're still complaining about stuff like this?
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RumbleFish  +   399d ago
You're right. I am supposed to give up idealism.
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TurboGamer  +   400d ago
Translation: The PC version will be a crappy ass port.
Ducky  +   400d ago
It's an indie platformer that isn't trying to be on the bleeding edge of visuals.

The fact that both versions look nearly identical is to be expected.
... and calling it a crappy port is a bit unfair when the dev is considering Steam Workshop support. They seem to care about each platform they're on.
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decrypt  +   400d ago
@TurboGamer

If history is anything to go by, its Playstation that gets the crappiest version of all platforms. PC being the best version most of the time at least ;-)

Check: Skyrim, BF3, Metro, Mafia 2, Dragon age for reference.
ravinash  +   400d ago
Might have been the case with the PS3.
But the PS4 with the PC like design should mean that devs don't have any excuse to do any lesser job on the playstation than any other platform.
HammadTheBeast  +   400d ago
Shouldn't you be petitioning for Red Dead?

Also Last of Us, never "better" on PC. Lulz
decrypt  +   400d ago
@hammad

Thats like asking why isnt there Dota 2 on PS3?
sync90  +   400d ago
Fanboy we don't wanna hear it. you sound butthurt, sticking up for your beloved pc. What a nerd!
poopsack  +   400d ago
A port from what, itself?
Lior  +   400d ago
Ok everyone just listen they do not optimise the games nvidia and AMD release drivers which get the most out of the games
NeoTribe  +   400d ago
Even if pc does get a port, its because nobody, even developers give a damn about pc. Pc is not supported like consoles are because there niche. Quit nerding out on articles not even relevant to your interests.
aquamala  +   400d ago
PC is niche? here's EA's Q1 FY2014 financial report, revenue by platform

PC 298 million
Xbox360 256 million
PS3 238 million
chaldo  +   399d ago
@turbogamer

Tell me more about your non-existent PC please. You really know how the games are on PC eh?
TurboGamer  +   399d ago
Coolermaster GX550 PSU
intel Core i5 3450 ivy-bridge
MSI nVidia GTX460 768MB (waiting for next years GTX860 Maxwell)
Gigabyte B75M-D3H
16GB DDR3 1600MHz CL9 corsair vengeance RAM
2TB WD Green for OS and games.
3TB WD Green for everything else.

Does that answer your question?
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mafiahajeri  +   400d ago
Can't wait to play the elder scrolls online beta exclusively on the PS4 as well the amazing planetside 2!
porter470  +   400d ago
Get a gaming pc then you don't have to wait
mafiahajeri  +   400d ago
Hmm I do have to wait if I want to play elder scrolls and I already play planetside on the PC is specifically said on the PS4 not PC it's a different experience.
Tatsuya  +   399d ago
I'm a PC gamer as well, but what you just did is a disgrace. He was talking about the PS4. I have an awesome gaming rig too but do I talk shit about it? Nope. PS4 is my lead gaming platform come next gen. Why? because I want it to be, it is the epitome of a perfect gaming machine. So take your shit out and STFU.
LoveOfTheGame  +   400d ago
Except the beta isn't exclusive to PS4, so your dumb.
mafiahajeri  +   400d ago
I meant console exclusive.
LoveOfTheGame  +   399d ago
It's also not console exclusive, so your dumb.
nirwanda  +   400d ago
Looks like a really good game but it's not really pushing any graphical boundaries.
iconic56  +   400d ago
exactly, this article would mean something totally different if it were CD Projekt Red saying the PS4 version will be 99% of the ultra settings on a PC.

Edit: Even though, they probably will look pretty close.
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Corpser  +   400d ago
So a platformer that will be a straight console port that won't take advantage of powerful PCs.
nosferatuzodd  +   400d ago
this is what i want to hear its a indie game not bad for a indie
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kingduqc  +   400d ago
I don't know man, ps4 barely do 1080p and 30 fps while pc can do 40-50 fps in 4k right now.
nosferatuzodd  +   400d ago
you're kidding right ? he's kidding right
Bolts  +   400d ago
PCs can't do 4k at 40-50 FPS yet, that is if we're talking the latest core games. However most PCs can do BF3 at 60 FPS 1080p with no problems.
HammadTheBeast  +   400d ago
Most PC's $700+ you mean.

No PC under $600 can run BF3 ultra at 60 FPS and 1080p.

Feel free to prove me wrong though.
MidnytRain  +   400d ago
HammadTheBeast

Can ANYTHING under $600 run those settings? lol
kingduqc  +   400d ago
http://www.tomshardware.com...

600$ bf3 1080p Ultra with 4x MSAA, by the release of ps4 thee will be new cards out that will bring 20-40% more performance for the same price.

Skyrim maxed is around 80+ fps.

Many peps out there disagreed with me but it's the truth, a single 780 can do just fine in 4k if you don't max out AA and tune down a bit to console level details. I guess sony fanboy are buthurt.
MidnytRain  +   399d ago
kingduqc

That's actually impressive, but the only thing it's missing is the 60fps.
SnotyTheRocket  +   400d ago
BF4 is 1080p @ 60FPS, soooo....
TimeSkipLuffy  +   400d ago
actually there is... the price ;D
andshesays  +   399d ago
you know the Ps4 is cheaper than a PC?

@_@"
TimeSkipLuffy  +   399d ago
actually that's what I meant XD
sorry for the confusion ;P it was to late for editing ^^'
andshesays  +   399d ago
dont worry about it Lol
voodoogts  +   400d ago
Of course a dev would say that. ;)
dcj0524  +   400d ago
Call me when dice or bethseda or ubisoft says. No really link me to it. Planet side 2 developer said ps4 version will run on ultra and thats really cpu intensive.
nosferatuzodd  +   400d ago
lol
SatanSki  +   400d ago
...and mid range pc too
_QQ_  +   400d ago
I didn't realize this indie platformer was pushing graphical capability?even then, that shows the PS4 can't handle a simple indie game maxed on the PC, imagine the graphical difference from games that actually push specs.
nosferatuzodd  +   400d ago
the ps4 cant handle a indie game you're the one to talk Xbox one couldn't manage non of the games at E3 so what they do is run them on Nvidia graphics card and windows 7 lol you need to stop calling the kettle black dude
_QQ_  +   400d ago
I don't give an ass about the xboxone.
Halochampian  +   400d ago
That's some run-on sentence you got going on there.

And who said anything about xbox anyways. He was just talking about the differences in graphical fidelity between ps4 and pc games.
kingmushroom  +   400d ago
But can it destroy the world ?
rdfarber  +   400d ago
Better yet, does it blend?
Einhert  +   400d ago
Yes because a linear platformer is really pushing hardware.....
vCx-ReDeMpTiOn  +   400d ago
Legendary
shibster88  +   400d ago
I dont care about pcs at all im a console gamer, pc guys think they are so cool and know it all, I work I building sites work very hard and I uave a family and a console, all I know is console is more social, how many people do you know that nip to there mates to play on his pc........? How many people go round there mates for some beers and food and console gaming..........?
If you play pc to me you live in your mums attic and work in a supermarket to pay your mum and buy pc/porn gear.
Einhert  +   400d ago
Oh Dear, we have a silly post on our hands
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andshesays  +   399d ago
LOL
Bolts  +   400d ago
Lol it's an indie platformer. This guy is obviously speaking to the fanboys because if they were to ask him what's the difference between the Xbox One and the PS4 version he would probably say the truth...none.
Benjammin25  +   400d ago
PS4 and my gaming laptop are all I need this gen. Can't bloody wait. :)
jp_footy2  +   400d ago
I don't know much about specs but 8gb GDDR5 sounds pretty good. Which pc gamer here has more than 8gb GDDR5?
gamernova  +   400d ago
I have 2 different types of ram. Instead of sharing it all I have DDR3 for hosting programs and such and I have dedicated gddr5 for pure graphical purpose.
jp_footy2  +   400d ago
How much GDDR5 do you have? Isn't 8gb quite good for a console?
gamernova  +   399d ago
I have 16 gb of ddr3 ram for hosting the games themselves (also background tasks and what not) and I have my 4gb gddr5 for just pure gaming. Remember though, that 4 is not shared with anything else. That 4 is just for pure graphical power.
SnotyTheRocket  +   400d ago
Yeah, PS3 had 256 megabytes of Ram, so, yeah, 8GB of GDDR5 is awesome.
sGIBMBR  +   400d ago
I think people forget how under powered current generation consoles are, yet they've been able to achieve so much due to closed architecture via optimisation.

Put next gen consoles into the hands of talented developers and I think we will all be surprised at what they can do.
wishingW3L  +   400d ago
there's no difference because is just an indie game....
DEREKTROTTER  +   400d ago
you can obviously build a better PC than the PS4, but at a much higher price.
$399 is quality for the spec of PS4, plus i never found PC gaming as fun
windblowsagain  +   400d ago
People need to stop throwing the TFLOPS about.

I'll show you what i mean.

In one of my PC'S.

I have a amd 6870. which is 2 tflops.

A 6870 is not as powerful as a 7870 which is at 2.56tflops

A 7870 has 156gb/s bandwidth, while the PS4 does more.

Also Sony's version of GPU is custom, by both amd and sony.

Most things that slow down GPU'S. Poor code.

Shadows,Shaders,particles,lig hts etc.

PS4 is a highend custom PC.
jp_footy2  +   400d ago
That's a pretty good explanation, thank you for making my visit to N4G worth it.
dogdirt2000  +   400d ago
The primary difference comes about from the abstraction penalty we find with graphics apis on a PC versus the specialized apis we find on the consoles due to their fixed-hardware. For example, our current consoles are capable of pushing out 2-3x the number of draw calls than would be possible in a similar PC counterpart. "Poor code" doesn't really come into it.
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Justinakach0ppa  +   400d ago
Define High end PC please...
Justinakach0ppa  +   400d ago
I think the difference was already proven when they were showing the unreal tech engine, framerate was subpar compared to pc performance, texturing was much lower res, I am not PC fanboy but claiming a console with significantly lower specs to a $4500 PC will be equal is just a bare faced lie.

However I will still be getting the PS4 for the exclusives.
windblowsagain  +   400d ago
That Unreal4 demo.

Update: Brian Karis, senior graphics programmer at Epic Games adds some more insight in the comments below, explaining some of the more obvious differences - particularly in terms of the very different lighting schemes. At the technical level, the two demos are closer than it seems:

"The biggest changes actually came from the merging of two separate cinematics, the original Elemental and the extended Elemental we showed at PS4's launch event. Each had different sun directions and required some compromises to join them. This resulted in some major lighting differences that aren't platform related but were due to it being a joined cinematic. Another effect, in the original you could see the mountains through the door where in the merged one we made the view through the door white since the mountains outside were no longer the same. Same deal with the mountain fly by. The old mountain range doesn't exist in the new one. These changes from the merge make direct comparisons somewhat inaccurate.

"Feature wise most everything is the same, AA resolution, meshes, textures (PS4 has tons of memory), DOF (I assure you both use the same Bokeh DOF, not sure why that one shot has different focal range), motion blur.

"Biggest differences are SVOGI has been replaced with a more efficient GI solution, a slight scale down in the number of particles for some FX, and tessellation is broken on ps4 in the current build which the lava used for displacement. We will fix the tessellation in the future."
wishingW3L  +   400d ago
edit: I was going to post the same thing windblowsagain posted.

But anyway, they made this demo in like a week with very early development kits.
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FrigidDARKNESS  +   400d ago
Well the ps4 design considered by many tech engineers as a md level pc.

On PC world as 2012 (remember not 2013)
7770 + Jaguar = low low spec
7770 + i7 = med spec
7870 + jaguar = med spec
7870 + i7 = med spec
7970 + i7 = High end PC
7990 + i7 = high end pc
7990 + Overclocked i7 = highest end pc

2013 will be change a little bit, >8 TF = Highest end PC
as the highest end will have > 7-8TF on PC

5-7 TF will considered to be High end PC
Titan 4-5TF = High end PC
8970 = high end PC, 6TF
8990 = Highest end PC 2013, > 8 TF

PS4 = 1.76 + 200Gflop Jaguar = medium pc lower bound
T2  +   400d ago
blah blah blah , seriously who gives a f? All I see is a wall of numbers that mean nothing on their own. Show me all the games and I will decide where I can play and have the most fun and entertainment.
sync90  +   400d ago
So what! The PC will never have the exclusives that the PS4 will have.
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ExCest  +   400d ago
Well, anyone could argue the opposite. Different preferences for different people.
NioRide  +   399d ago
And ps3 will never have the exclusives PC has.

Your point is pretty moot.
reko  +   400d ago
@frigid

B.S B.S B.S comment
ZoyosJD  +   399d ago
The 8000 series was just a rebrand. Essentially all OEM in fact. The 9000 series on the other hand is extpected to intoduce the 9970 as a ~8.2 tflop single gpu card with a timeframe set for october.

If you are only playing at 1080p a card like that would be overkill.
Funnymonkey013  +   400d ago
I think the main point is PS4 is a great cheaper console that u can own if u wanted something that comes close to a PC in terms of high end graphics. 4 me the biggest thing that I'm really excited is that devs have been saying that pretty much all high end games on PC can easly be done 4 ps4 in 3 months now that's tells u that PS4 is not far behind at high end PC. Truth is ps4 is more powerful then most PCs that people own that is few that own a high end pcs that r above 900$.
SpideySpeakz  +   400d ago
After seeing Planetside 2 max out on the PS4, I can believe this.
Einhert  +   400d ago
Got a link to that gameplay?
taiyed80  +   400d ago
exactly. It doesn't exist. The fanboys are just running away with some quote from somebody trying to hype up the game so the uninformed buy it.
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sk1234  +   400d ago
That's very good and I will definitely be buying a PS4 but the thing is PC components are always improving and getting better so next year there will be better GPU's, CPU's and so on.
The_Truth_24_7  +   400d ago
As expected. PS4 with the edge.
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