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Microsoft Partner Calls Xbox An 'Entirely Justifiable' Business Expense

Microsoft last year shuttered its once popular Small Business Server product, but one of its Most Valuable Professional (MVP) partners says the Xbox One is a viable small business videoconferencing and networking platform.

When the $499 Xbox One hits store shelves in November, its built-in Skype and 1080p Kinect video camera will be as powerful as a PC with a microphone and a Webcam for doing group meetings, Marques Lyons, a Gardena, Calif.-based Microsoft Xbox MVP, said in a post to Microsoft's Support For Small Business blog.

Lyons described the Xbox One as an "affordable option for small business owners" and said it has features that "could help it rival even the most modest of video conferencing and networking platforms."

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Kingthrash3601486d ago

wow...sup with Microsoft? seems like they are still focused on more than just gaming.... that's cool and all business wise but as a gamer wanting a gaming console is hate to see my $500 machine focus on anything other than gaming...I guess I just feel that all this tvtvtvtvtv and kinect stuff should be done on pc.... leave the x1 for gaming and apps like Netflix.....just saying.

Geezus1485d ago (Edited 1485d ago )

what's wrong with having more features? the more features the more bang for your buck. i would hate to pay $ 400-500 for something that just played games. In this day and age Tv's, phones, mp3, Gaming consoles, cars...etc. are adding more non- standard features that add functionality and enhance the experience to stand apart from the competition. The pS4, xbox, and wii have to be multi-featured these days to justify the price points. And its not like The xbox is not a primary gaming machine have you seen the launch lineup and slated games for 2014!? If you want a console that just plays game scoop up an older gen console off of eBay or something the kind that dont even play movies.

Gamer19821485d ago

The argument is about the features there giving you here extra its about the fact they are trying to use them as there main selling point rather than the real reason people will buy consoles. How many people will buy for just skype and kinect? I bet there wont be anywhere near 2 million. Most of those 70 million Xbox owners from current gen bought there consoles for the games. Kinect sold decent as ppl thought it would change gaming as we know it. Now they know it won't they won't want it again but this time it's being forced upon them.

You think if MS released a $100 cheaper Xbox without Kinect the Kinect version would sell a tenth of the amount? Not a chance. That's the point here nobody really want's it yet you have to pay for it as it's in your consoles cost. That's gotta bug people..

malokevi1485d ago (Edited 1485d ago )

"The argument is about the features there giving you here extra its about the fact they are trying to use them as there main selling point rather than the real reason people will buy consoles."

So, because MS has put out a few releases suggesting that XB1 might be a good buisness tool... now its their "main focus".

lol.

There's something for everyone. That's Microsoft's approach. If you're so self-righteous that you feel like you need a console built just for you... well... you can try PS4... but even they have TV/social networking on the table.

Patrick1485d ago (Edited 1485d ago )

Yeah, see this is the point. I dont need my console to do TV. Why? Cause my TV already does TV with the push of a button that I can push faster than I can tell my console to do it.

Plus you still have to have a cable box for your all in one... (or two) entertainment package.
I'm sorry.. but I just dont care to talk to my console or TV that doesnt talk back. Its an inanimate object and to have to shush everyone or talk over them just so I can talk to my console to turn on my system is a no go for me. I would just as soon quietly pick up my controller and push a button.. Simple as that. Plus I have everything running through my 7.1 receiver so I would still have to turn that on plus my TV... I don't live alone and there is always to much going on in my house to have to deal with the inconvenience of hand gestures and voice commands. I can see it now
"OK everyone get quiet and please give me clear line of sight to my TV so I can turn on my console" lol... ah no.

Now, if they make it where it can talk back and have an opinion and a sense of humor (even a dry one)... I'm all for that. That would be cool.
"Good Morning console"
"good morning Dave"
"Whoa, what did you call me"
"What? oh I meant Patrick, Good morning Patrick"

lol.. cool as hell, and freaky.

JokesOnYou1485d ago (Edited 1485d ago )

@Kingthrash, What about this news implies small business is the main focus of X1? or anthing besides games?, lol E3, EVO, & Comic Con says hi...frankly sonys Comic Con showing for games(Driveclub, Knack and Octodad) aren't generating any buzz, while it seems X1 games have been receiving alot more positive press and interest since E3. Also with micros new 1 billion investment in games over the next year and mores studios I'd say everything points to them being better off and more focused on games than last gen.

@Patrick, I heard something like this from my Grandma:

Yeah, see this is the point. I dont need my cell phone to do pictures. Why? Cause my camera already does pictures with the push of a button that I can push faster than I can push the button on my cell phone to do it. 

-Poor Granny she's still in the basement looking for her old polaroid camera. I dont know where shes going to buy film, lol.

DigitalRaptor1485d ago (Edited 1485d ago )

@ JokesOnYou

See this is the problem of the apologising shortsightedness that is prevalent right now.

Arguments like: "oh i wouldn't carry a camera or a calculator around with me, my phone does it fine."

Sure, I can agree that a modern phone can take pictures quicker, but it can't produce images to the same quality as a dedicated DSLR camera for its very purpose. And a phone having all these features doesn't and won't ever detract from the focus of a phone which is to communicate. That has never changed and likely never will.

Having more non-gaming related features in a gaming console doesn't make it a better gaming console. It means its focus is not as pronounced, and acts as a distraction. More bang for your buck in XB1 is more of an illusion when a computer or phone can do the majority of these things, things that most people buying a gaming console would clearly own.

What I'm seeing here with Microsoft and Xbox One is a situation of jack of all trades - master of none.

Patrick1485d ago (Edited 1485d ago )

@jokesonyou

Yes but do you have to hook a camera to your cell phone in order to take pictures... cause thats the way the xbone works... you have to hook a cable box to it..lol. soooooo, whats the point of the xbone again? lol.. let me know when it talks back. Then I might be interested.

Plus.. you do know if Sony thought gamers wanted it, the PS4 could do voice commands as well since its just software and a mic.. but we want games. MS on the other hand only wants to push stuff on you, like kinect since it fails at games they had to do something with it, and like DRM for instance. Luckily for yall Sony did the right thing and gamers fought back on the DRM so .... your welcome. lol

Greatness Awaits and U R NOT(red)E

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EZMickey1485d ago

Many people feel as you do, that the Xbox One could end up being a Jack of all trades and a Master of none. Its worth noting that its always been Microsofts intention to be able to sell the Xbox One to more than one market. That could be as much a strength as it could a weakness depending of course on how well its done.

That's what we're waiting to see. How well does Kinect 2 work, how well does TV integration work, etc. Will those features end up being worth the extra money for those purchasing the Xbox One primarily as a gaming platform and will Microsoft do a good job of selling it to those who aren't?

fOrlOnhOpe571485d ago

Jack of all trades sprang to my mind straight off too - which can be a good thing. But MS must have their focus on gamers. After all, isnt that what a gaming console is primarily designed for?
The messages MS have sent out have been totally f****d up right from the start.

mcstorm1485d ago

I agree with Geezus. I cant wait to get a One 1st for Forza and KI but I am intrested in seeing what the tv side is like. I have become very Microsoft at home with what I own as there devices offer me more than the others on the market. I have a Surface RT, Lumia 925, 2012 server and a 360 which I use to all link together to use Movies stored on my Server, Xbox Music, SkyDrive, Netflix, Skype and adding Sky into that as well as Skype when playing games could be a big +. Its not for everyone but for me it is just another reason to get a one over the PS4 at the start of the gen.

I own a WiiU as well and love the console and I will be picking up a PS4 in the 1st 12 months of it being on the market but right now I see the One as the device that fits my own life better than the others.

Maddens Raiders1485d ago (Edited 1485d ago )

Once certain businesses and networks like Fox Business Channel find out how it can be used to data mine the derpa-liscious masses X1, will be lauded as the best thing since the telephone in 'Merrica. Prepare for a Mountain Dew Dorito Taco Avalanche right into your piehole while you sleep.

"Commercials? We don't need no stinkin' commercials, we'll just watch you, errm monitor you and let you show us what you like."

Marques Lyons: "it has features that could help it rival even the most modest of video conferencing and networking platforms."

Personally I would not purchase a gaming console that /requires/ me to purchase it's camera; the benefit of businessmen who want a modest vc'g platform be damned, but that's me.

Fireseed1485d ago

Yeah I don't really have a problem with more features, I can't honestly see a problem with jamming as much as they can into the box... but hell one thing were used to with Xbox is that if theirs a feature of the console itself that is underdeveloped it will be improved, just look at what the 360 used to be.

Funantic11485d ago

The majority of gamers are just casual players. Hardcore gamers are the minority and are more concerned about strictly games. But the the money is in the casual players who are not concerned about achievement points and stay on Netflix and other apps. I got plenty of Xbox Live friends who play games during the day and watch Netflix all night or vise versa. Women are especially concerned about other things besides games. The whole family can watch Netflix, Hulu, Skype, browse the Internet or cable channels. I could get a cheap Obama phone just to make calls but I prefer using a smartphone cause it does so much more...same kind of reference. When the PS3 had the slogan "It Only Does Everything" it actually was a good concept. It's not all about the games but the X1 can please the hardcore players.

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die_fiend1485d ago

Entirely justifiable waste of money for businesses and consumers alike?

HammadTheBeast1485d ago

Yes, as a small business, let's spend $500 on a videogame console for video conferencing and chats, because a $100 laptop or tablet or even your phone can't do the same.

die_fiend1485d ago

It's called desperation. If 4 months before release, they're restructuring the Xbox division and trying to suddenly sell xbox's to businesses then you know they're cramping themselves. How many businesses have 360s?! None. Because they don't have a place there

rainslacker1485d ago (Edited 1485d ago )

Well, for a hardware solution, he's actually not wrong. Dedicated video conferencing hardware tends to be quite costly, ranging from $2-10K per unit depending on what you're looking for. Usually this stuff has to be on both ends as well.

For businesses that need high quality video conferencing(ie not sub par jerky random online software video conferencing), the X1 could be a viable alternative. OTOH, so could a $500 PC which is serviceable and upgradable by the IT department is probably a better choice, since software tends to be cheap and constantly improving.

The dedicated units tend to have special processors in them for formatting, compressing, and decompressing the video, which tends to make them a lot better with less lag, so really the X1 is nothing more than a PC substitute for video calls. As I recall the PS4 had this type of chip in it, has video conferencing, so perhaps it's a better choice if you don't mind a slight downgrade in the camera resolution.

tubers1485d ago (Edited 1485d ago )

I'm sure MS will do just fine with the X1 in the U.S. market.

Might be awesome for profiling for businesses.

from the beach1485d ago

All for this.

The more different groups of people they can sell Xbox One to the better. As we saw at E3 the videogames are front and centre so all of this stuff is bonus.

die_fiend1485d ago

Yeah...we didn't see that at E3 at all. There was nothing to get excited about at all. The only good looking game on the entire console is Forza, and that's the 5th game in the series so hardly unique.

At least you'll get a charming, soulful experience in Ryse. Oh no, it'll be unbelievably bland, like everything Crytek touch

DiRtY1485d ago (Edited 1485d ago )

Exclusive games MS announced at E3 (games we have not heard of before):

- Halo 5
- Sunset Overdrive
- Kinect Sports Rivals
- Dead Rising 3
- Project Spark
- Killer Instinct
- D4
- Below

Exclusive games Sony announced at E3 (games we have not heard of before):

- The Order 1886

die_fiend1485d ago

Yeah that's true. But did any of those games look great? No not really. You can pump out loads of crappy exclusives, but that's devaluing your brand. Sonyake sure that their exclusives are high calibre.

Halo, Gears, Dead Rising is all old news - games that have stood still

DiRtY1485d ago

"But did any of those games look great?"

Yes, there was a big variety and I can't wait to play Ryse, Dead Rising 3, Quantum Break, Killer Instinct and Titanfall. And that is just the launch lineup for exclusives.

"Sonyake sure that their exclusives are high calibre."

Sure like Twisted Metal being a offline only game in Europe for months, because the netcode was such a mess.

Or Starhawk, the game noone asked for and did sell a whopping 200k units.

Or PSABR, N4G called it a fan service, yet it only sold 1 million units... on Vita and PS3 combined.

Halo 4 outsold all PS3 exclusives for the year, but you called it "old news". You need to get a reality check and put things in perspective.

die_fiend1485d ago

Ah, the classic 'halo sells well' defence. Genius!

I'm one of the people who bought it and its quite good but it's almost the same game as halo 3. Like I said, they've stood still. You're telling me Halo 4 is better than last of us or uncharted? You're a lunatic

from the beach1485d ago

It wouldn't sell like that if it was 'old news', and I'm sure there are plenty of people who think it's better than Uncharted.

There are so many folk on this website who can't seem to acknowledge that opinions different to their own exist.

HammadTheBeast1485d ago

@Dirty

Exclusive games MS showed at their reveal?

-Forza

That's why.

DiRtY1485d ago

@Hammad,

please stop trolling and stay with the facts.

exclusive XBox One games we knew about before E3:

- Titanfall
- Forza
- Quantum Break
- Ryse

Thank you.

@die_flend

Actually yes, I prefer Halo over Uncharted, because I like the multiplayer and a deep storyline. But that is just me.

I am not lunatic for having a different taste than you do.

The point is, you say Sony would never release low quality games and I just mentioned 3 examples. We can even go on and mention the biggest PS Move game: Sorcery!

Or what about LittleBigPlanet Karting? ModNation Racers? Ratchet & Clank: Full Frontal Assault?

Sure as hell Sony had some low-quality games in their portfolio. Everyone does. Somehow on N4G every Sony exclusive is high quality by default.

And why is "Halo sells well" a defence? Why should I defend myself for a random trolling comment with no substance at all?

And again, double standards. Halo 4 is almost the same game like Halo 3 is somehow bad. But Uncharted 1 is like Uncharted 3 as well is good and the franchise does not "stand still".

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rainslacker1485d ago (Edited 1485d ago )

At what point can we say that many of the X1's sales are due to businesses needed video conferencing hardware like was done with the PS3's blu-ray buyers argument?

Hate to tell you this, but MS makes money on games, not hardware. They may make a small profit on the hardware, but it's nothing compared to the money they make off games. MS would be much more apt to release it's own video conferencing solution and charge a buttload of money for it.

DiRtY1485d ago

N4G will make something stupid out of this, like they won't care about gamers or some nonsense like that... Oh I am late, they already did!

Still, the Xbox One has by FAR the best launch lineup (release date and launch window).

But N4G needs something to rant about, so they take a small blog post that the console could be used for a video conference as well and try to spin this like it would be a major thing for anyone.

paranoid19711485d ago

I'm pretty sure I can already video conference on my ps3 :-)