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Submitted by xHeavYx 931d ago | opinion piece

Don't Expect Anything New From the PS4 or Xbox One

Each new generation of games consoles brings with it new ideas and new innovations. For example, the original Playstation popularised the idea of disc-based games, and the Nintendo 64 which followed it not only introduced an analogue thumb-stick controls, but was also optimised for people with three hands. And of course in the last generation we saw the Wii introduce motion controls, and the subsequent scramble by Microsoft and Sony to half-heartedly match Nintendo's offering (PS4, Xbox One)

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Kingthrash360  +   931d ago negative.
xbox t.v. bs is new
ps4 share button new
wiiu tablet conteoller new
lastly I just want new fun games.....not gimmicks.....the most significant things mentioned in article is n64 thumb stick and disc introduction. thos were game changers but motion controls 3d even voice commands are gimmiks no I dont want gimmicks I want great engaging games to satisfy my gaming needs. note on motion controls: it was a gimmick to me because I got tired of swinging the controller around like a light saber......loved zelda, hated swinging at air.
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jujubee88  +   931d ago
VITA/PS4 remote play is new. The previous remote play was okay, but the new console hardware and software is built from the ground up to support that for VITA.

(Just being a geek and butting in to your list!) :P
JokesOnYou  +   931d ago
"These commonalities are no bad thing as it means you can more quickly pick up a new game - so when you load up Far Cry 3 for the first time, you immediately know the gist of what you have to do because you've played Call of Duty. But if we added cameras into the mix - I wonder what this would add?"

"Perhaps we'd see gesture-based controls - maybe nodding your head up could bring up a HUD-type menu, maybe leaning a bit (whilst still sat on the sofa) will change the parallax and enable you to peer around corners or over cover, perhaps narrowing your eyes and holding the controller closer to your face could stabilise your aim? That sort of thing."

-He's sort of rambling, first he basically says all peripherals are gimmicks, then he thinks games would be better if devs know everybody has a camera, but because ps4 doesn't he's suggesting that nobody will making AAA game will take advantage of it, but he wants to see different gameplay mechanics(actually as long as he isn't expecting "spectactular" game changing stuff AAA devs are using Kinect)....but of course we won't see anything new according to him, as if this gen is already over.
nukeitall  +   931d ago
I think Remote Play is stupid, because todays internet connection cannot support it well as internet upload speeds are atrocious for most broadband users. It's a gimmick for the vast majority unless you are limited to being on your own network, which completely negates remote play!

Essentially, it becomes a Wii U playing off screen with a little bit more lag to boot.

Why would you not play on your big screen when you are home? Hence the stupidness of it.

I personally think the only new arena with the way consoles are now, only Kinect is the wild card.

Wii motion control style has been well explored and it's limitation is blatant. It can only detect motion. The PS Move is practically identical with Wii Motion Plus.

Kinect on the other hand relies on voice and full body tracking, facial tracking and gestures. This is how you communicate with the world normally, albeit more crude with Kinect.

Pair Kinect One with Oculus Rift like device and virtual reality is achievable.

In the meanwhile, I think a interactive heavy story based game using Kinect One could be very compelling something along Milo interactivity and Bioshock world. Use the cloud for some crazy AI and you got my money!
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user5575708  +   931d ago

remote play is for parents who want to watch tv but their kids want to play games. it actually makes it so everyone gets their way and people can enjoy media and gaming at the same time.

kind of weird that microsoft doesn't have it though considering they advertise as an all in one media hub yet they're missing one of the best family oriented features
mcstorm  +   931d ago
@nukeitall I agree for me Kinect is the most interesting one out of the 3. I love the Wiiu but its not new as I've had a 3ds for years and its kind of the same things.

As for Kinect the devs are coming up with some interesting ways of tracking you like the KI devs have come out as said if you swap controller with someone else with an account it will automatically change the controller to fit there style of play.

For me all 3 have something to offer but at the moment its all about the Wiiu and Xbox one for me.
malokevi  +   930d ago
"kind of weird that microsoft doesn't have it though considering they advertise as an all in one media hub yet they're missing one of the best family oriented features "

Xbox One will have remote play on a second screen. It can be done from any Smartglass device... which is awesome.

All the new consoles can do it. Unless they are coming out with a PS4 app for tablet devices, your going to need a vita to do remote play on your PS4.

Makes sense if Sony is trying to spur sales of the Vita. But, in this case, MS definitely makes it easier.
jammy_70  +   931d ago
I can't see the step from this to next gen will be as big as last to this gen. Console gaming can only go so far...
Crazay  +   931d ago
I don't see the voice or motion control options as gimmicky. As long as the accuracy is there, I think that the more creative minds who make the money coming up with new ideas and concepts can bring us some pretty sweet game play additions.
jeffgoldwin  +   931d ago

You can share videos on xbox without a share button in the menu, so that's not really the end all be all (already that is semi-cool). As far as gimicks, Kinect is guility but so is the ps4 touchpad gimmick. Wifi direct is nice.

Can't just be a total fanboy here, gotta call em like you see em.
Hicken  +   931d ago
Are you saying YOU, personally, can't be a total fanboy here?
dcj0524  +   931d ago
Extra controls/buttons is good. More pc games.
Kingthrash360  +   930d ago
jeff..look I just mentioned my positives and negatives. im far from a fan boy. I dont care about ANYTHING but great games.....thats all. I mentioned the positive for all systems including wiiu and the negative for all. BUT PLEASE UNDERSTAND that they are nothing but my opinion. if you don't agree then fine but just because you dont agree doesn't make me a fan boy.
Godmars290  +   931d ago
The Xbox TV BS is and has been done on the 360 and the PS3. Better on the PS3 in countries other than the US.

The PS4's share button adds nothing new to any actual game. As does - doesn't? - the WiiU's tablet other than an inventory or map screen removed from your TV.

If anything is really going to change then game development needs to step back from the gimmicks on controllers, the chase for realism and especially first person perspective. There needs to be AAA level arcade titles, but right now the only things which even comes close if Knack and Ratchet and Clank.
nukeitall  +   931d ago
Actually, if you want massive changes to experience then you have to look at Kinect full body motion control and devices like Oculus Rift. New ways to interact and be immersed.

Otherwise, you get just more pixels, more button hammering and maybe better story telling. That's it!
nirwanda  +   931d ago
The best new thing I see is persistent worlds like the division or all the various driving games or destiny.
Also dropping in and out with things like tablets too.
nosferatuzodd  +   931d ago
maybe maybe not lol
Pope_Kaz_Hirai_II  +   931d ago
we have teh clouds baby true next gen 50 times the POWAH
madpuppy  +   931d ago
yeah! the power of the cloud here in Florida is really important, the sun can get really hot here so, clouds are a relief sometimes, and what we get back from the cloud...rain. good stuff.

cellfluid  +   931d ago
Your right.. Motion control was introduced with Nintendo as well but it was called the power glove!! Gimmicks.. Lolol
madpuppy  +   931d ago
This is mainly what I look for in a new console, more power to bring new or improved experiences that were not capable before. anything that is added to that formula is icing on the cake.
Rockstar_5   930d ago | Trolling | show
I expect new things from ps4 cuz sony has the devs..

Naughty Dog will blow most 1st party xbox devs away.


Halo can sell all it wants. I want ni no kuni 2 lol
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-EvoAnubis-  +   931d ago
I see what this guy is trying to say, but he's not thinking far enough ahead. The way we play games is changing; just not the way we thought it would be. People can say that motion gaming is the future all they want, but until I can step onto a holodeck and play Uncharted 3 as Nathan Drake myself, that just ain't happening.

This generation will be more about how we interact with games while we're not in front of our TVs at home. Ubisoft already has this one figured out; look at what they're doing with games like The Division and Watch_Dogs. Microsoft has their Smartglass as a base for it, and Sony has a app that interacts with the PS4 as well.

When more companies start thinking more along the lines of a persistent game world, we're going to start seeing some interesting things that yes, will change the way we play games.
PositiveEmotions  +   931d ago
Pshhh everything about those two consoles are new!!!
KwietStorm  +   931d ago
Expect nothing new. Got it. Because I get all my gaming news and insider opinions from Huffington Post.
Knushwood Butt  +   931d ago
Oh, OK, I won't then...
Crazay  +   931d ago
There's some innovation going on with these 2 systems but for the most part will continue to be status quo based on certain technological barriers and the general public unwillingness to see the bigger picture or embrace some radical movements.

HOWEVER, I think on a gaming front we're about to embark on some truly next gen experiences from a gameplay and presentation standpoint and i'm very excited to see how this plays out.
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Fireseed  +   931d ago
Comments on public's dis taste for embrace radical movements... bashes Kinect in every other comment he makes on this site.... seems legit.
Crazay  +   931d ago
I really can't recall any time I've "Bashed Kinect". I don't love kinect but I've had fun with the few games I own for my kinect. I play it with my daughter and my wife. So I have absolutely no idea what you're speaking of here.

The public distaste I have is regarding some of the features MS was looking to implement with XBox One. Give your head a shake.
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Crazay  +   931d ago
Thaaaats what I thought. Thanks for trying smart ass.
GamerSciz  +   931d ago
"And of course in the last generation we saw the Wii introduce motion controls, and the subsequent scramble by Microsoft and Sony to half-heartedly match Nintendo's offering"

Stopped reading there. Wii uses Infrared lasers as does Kinect. PS Eye Toy has been around since the PS2. While it didn't have the PS Move peripheral they now have, it was what helped introduce motion controls long ago. Plus PS3 Eye Toy and PS4 eye toy don't use infrared which is an old technology. Instead it simply is a camera that reads you within a 3D space. True augmented reality.
andreasx  +   931d ago
Lol, we have already seen tons of new features, including new hardware. Have these people been living under a rock or something?
nitrogav  +   931d ago
These articles are getting really boring .
xReDeMpTiOnx  +   931d ago
Who knew rocks give full life support............
Ripsta7th  +   931d ago
Just graphics,performance and newer tech, and games .what else more could we want?
jeffgoldwin  +   931d ago
Ya that's the main thing. New controller designs are looking good too.
Sarobi  +   931d ago
Nothing new you say?.. brb as I cancel my pre-order. /s
fenome  +   931d ago
Uh, okay, just 'cause you said so I guess I'll cancel my pre-order....riiiiight..

Oh, but wait, new IPs are...NEW, right?
I don't care if my console can levitate when I'm playing it (although that would be pretty freakin rad, I ain't gonna lie), I'm using it to play games on.
Dlacy13g  +   931d ago
I think a major thing both new consoles will do is actually just improve on what both the PS3 and 360 were doing. The reality is that neither Sony or MS really figured in their initial designs of their systems that "Apps" would be such a hit or there would be a need for simultaneous things running. If they had, the RAM situation would have been vastly different for current gen. So PS4 and Xbox One will indeed primarily just improve upon what the PS3 and 360 currently do...but I don't see that as a negative, quite the opposite. There will be some new features, etc... but over all these systems are going to allow for more....more of everything and be more efficient at everything.
jeffgoldwin  +   931d ago
Thier magical crystal ball to predict the future may have been offline. That plus more ram was cost prohibitive at the time they released compared to nowadays.
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Caffo01  +   931d ago
no new games?
xActionBasturdx  +   931d ago
This article described in one word
Fireseed  +   931d ago
And this is a article where it's very clear why journalists =/= developers.
thebudgetgamer  +   931d ago
It's hard to bring new things to an industry that is over forty years old.

"Nintendo 64 which followed it not only introduced an analogue thumb-stick controls"

BattleTorn  +   931d ago
Nothing new, you say?

OK. I'm still getting both.
corvusmd  +   931d ago
This article is just wrong. There are plenty of innovations and improvements coming this gen...however that being said, I just watched the Killzone Gameplay demo clearly for the first time....honestly that game does NOT look next gen at all. All the textures and gun skins look flat and matted and looks like mid current gen. The character AI looks dumb, and the animations are just basic...I am not a huge Killzone fan anymore anyway, but even then this lets me down so far...true it was just a demo, but I saw nothing to like about it. I admit when they showed the very first intro cinematic, I thought that it had taken a HUGE step forward and looked amazing, but now seeing actual gameplay on a PS4 and not a canned animation on a far it looks like a huge let down. I know I'm gonna get downvoted for this, and people are going to yell at me and call me names, but the gameplay demo and try and tell yourself that I'm wrong...
saint_seya  +   931d ago
Yup you are beyond wrong.
Stop streaming video in 240p, or stop been a fanboy/hater. The game looks great, i can understand if u tell me the gameplay is not your thing, but graphics, no way.
corvusmd  +   931d ago
Actually the problem was that for the first time I watched it in a good resolution
Clunkyd  +   931d ago
Dont expect anything new from PC gaming.
lgn15  +   931d ago
Sure, technically nothing is "new". But a lot of stuff sure as hell is innovative! Learn the difference between the two terms
smashcrashbash  +   931d ago
So when you say 'new' you basically mean stupid gimmicks that barely work that get forgotten very easily.Well then I am glad they don't have anything 'new'
southernbanana  +   931d ago
Nothing new. Damn, you mean I have to play the same games all over again. :-)
GamingMachine  +   931d ago
typical negative pc fanboy
Flipflopp  +   931d ago
To the author of this article,,,, BRO, DO YOU EVEN GAME?
PSN_ZeroOnyx  +   931d ago
It's sad some ppl will read this thinking he knows what he is taking about.
Neo-Axl  +   930d ago
"Don't Expect Anything New From the PS4 or Xbox One"

Expect new games! that brutal reason why everybody's buying them anyways. Silly article
shibster88  +   930d ago
Xbox one aka gimmick box, which is why
I am getting the ps4, multi media centre......f**k off, console and controller an awesome game(bf4) a few mates and some beers, not flapping our arms around to play a game no thanks ill stick with the old school, im a 360 boy soon be be ps4 boy.
mkotechno  +   930d ago
PC master race doesn't like competence.
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