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Submitted by uneasiest 461d ago | opinion piece

Could the Xbox One be Microsoft’s Trojan Horse?

OmniGamer writes "Gamers, we are now witnessing the arrival of the next generation of consoles; better graphics, animation, physics, expansive worlds, and the possibility for developers to reach the uncanny valley are great things. After all the anger and disappointment Microsoft still comes out on top in the end. Their introduction to there new console was less than stellar but in the end the Xbox One is still major competition to the PS4." (Microsoft, Xbox One)

Need4Game  +   461d ago
What's that? Will that be in Ryse?
black0o  +   461d ago
i see what u did there! xD
gaffyh  +   460d ago
It's a Trojan horse for advertising IMO, all the stuff they showed at their original reveal just screamed advertising, and the fact that the console had to be always online was part of that idea I think, because it would have allowed them to collect statistics on a daily basis on what games you are playing, what you are watching, what you are searching the Internet for. Coupled with kinect, they could even target ads at the people in the room, so kids get ads for toys and kid games, and older people get ads for movies and tv shows.

They could still do most of that too, and I personally believe that is the point of the Xbone, or at least was the point of it until the backlash. It explains why they wanted always online so bad, and why they are insisting of having Kinect othe box, when we all know it is a $150 extra cost that most will only use for UI navigation.
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Bathyj  +   461d ago
that was Greeks, not Romans.

@Janice
no one gives a crap about your classmates half sister
Kingthrash360  +   461d ago
time will tell is all I can say....me and.many others have had bad experiences with the 360....rrod..twice...then the first party game drought it suffered the last 3 years. honestly, I was too scared to play my 3rd xbox because of the rrod...so I only played first party games on it an played the rest on my ps3....needless to say my 360 started to collect dust while I enjoyed the ps3.
long story short the rrod was a headache and looking at the drama tgat the xb1 has already had..and still have turns this gamer off dramatically. thats not to say im not getting it...ill get it next year ill be getting ps4 at launch....ill wait for the "trojan horse" to arrive before I spend $500 on a machine thats rumored to be inferior in power to a $400 ps4. that just my opinion...im not knocking ms or hypeing sony...im just a gamer who had bad experiences with the previous ms console and dont want to repeat my mistake.
aceitman  +   461d ago
me also I just cant trust to buy x1 being 2 1/2 years in the making that is just scary .. I refuse to get hit like I did with the 360 rr of death .
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badkolo  +   461d ago
really, oyu think they just scarpped it together, cmon, lets use our brains just a little, no one will punish you for putting the sony defence shield down for a second
Scatpants  +   461d ago
Yeah they probably didn't learn anything from that. Im sure they will just go ahead and make systems that red ring again.
HammadTheBeast  +   461d ago
Some may see me as a Sony supporter, but after I got RROD even after having it fixed twice for $120 on both my 360's (they were not repairing or giving warranties atthe time, in fact, they blatantly ignored the problem) I was done.
Utalkin2me  +   461d ago
Amen to that brother....
gnothe1  +   460d ago
@hammad....did they refund your money for the repairs?
Urusernamesucks  +   461d ago
To tell you the truth, the 360'Rodd disaster was pretty predictable. It had nothing to do with hardware, what realy cause it to fail was the consoles design. Notice how small and few the ventilations are on the launch xbox360. Plus remember that this system was runing on hd dvd player, forcung it to run faster and generating more heat where as the ps3 had blueray and the disc ran slower and cooler.

Theres realy nothing to worry about the xbox one considering many of these flaws wont apply to it this time around. Its runing on bluray and is WAY MORE ventilated.Heack it has more ventilations than my 360 slim and that one Hasn't rodd on me so far after 4 years. Lol its also the only xbox i have ever bought and if it were to rodd on me i would consider on getting a ps3, But it Hasn't soo...

Im realy starting to belive these rodd storys are made up bs since failure rates have been crushed by the recent console models. These stories would have been Believable if this was 2006.
fei-hung  +   461d ago
you clearly never had a launch 360. The HD DVD player was never built it but an external player that you purchased separately.

The problem was not just the RROD but also the disc scratching due to poor and rushed design. It was not only causing heating problems, but they also forgot to put rubber protectors above the disc reader which was causing many games to get a circular deep scratch around the game disc.

No one knows how good any of the systems will be, whether it is the PS4 or XONE until 6 3-6 months into launch.

The concern for some gamers really is getting hardware problems in case the systems are not put together well. Commonsense will tell you, a system which has only been put together in the last 2.5-3 years may not have had sufficient time to have been properly thought through. Hell the software went back and forward between the reveal and now and there are still a lot of uncertainties on how it will proceed and if more changes will be made.

Saying that, we will all just have to wait and see.
Kingthrash360  +   461d ago
I wish they were made up...but no, ln my experience alone I had two..you should feel lucky and relieved this hasnt happend to you...I wish it hadn't to me. the points you made are valid and they may hold true...I sure hope so..but im taking no chances...rumors about raised clock speeds and such.....but I will WWABNY (wait.watch.and buy next year) if all is well..if you get it day one keep us posted on how it runs....mmm'kay champ . :-)
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GodGinrai  +   461d ago
@Urusernamesucks

you got EXPOSED by fei-hung! lol

EDIT: I would just like to add im on my forth. I have one of the last of the old shape X360s. been working just fine since 2007. up till that point I just went to GAME with my reciept and they let me swap it out ( thanks to MS 5 year warranty). the only hassle was going to the store and swapping it. But i never paid an extra penny. Not once out of those three times I experienced RROD. This last one has been solid as old boots.
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thetruthx1  +   460d ago
Nothing new here still beating the dead horse with the rrod weapon I see. Most of the ppl spewing this probably never owned a 360 but read about the error
Kingthrash360  +   460d ago
"beating a dead horse" is inaccurate. more like "fu** me once shame on you.... fu** me twice shame on me."
do you realise how high the failure rate on the 360 was? chances are its happend to most of its launch buyers......what makes it even more fuuuuu up is they didnt even recall them. so to say people are making this up is bs....it just annoying when people know the truth but deny the obvious....reminds me of one of my favorite Chappell show episodes...."did Michael Jackson molest a young boy?"...."No".. ..."So you would you let YOUR kid spend the nite at Michael Jackson's house?"......"HELL NO!"....lol still funny
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kostchtchie_  +   461d ago
What do you mean will they re activate DRM and all the other garbage they were going screw gamers over with at some point through the next gen? yes i believe they will unleash all that crap as Trojan, why stop habit of screwing consumers..
JokerBoy422  +   461d ago
If by trojan horse you mean do I expect that whoever brings one in their house will be raped and slaughtered by Micro$oft,Then yes, yes I do.
True_Samurai  +   461d ago
Laaaaaammmme -_-
JokerBoy422  +   461d ago
Not as lame as being Xboned
True_Samurai  +   461d ago
^^^ looks like some one is having daddy issues. Is that why you place an x in front of bone to get rid of your horrible dreams :-0 lol
DarkZane  +   461d ago
Doesn't matter if it's a marathon or a race, Sony has them beat in both.
HammadTheBeast  +   461d ago
PS2 destroyed Xbox.

PS3, Sony stumbled, got a bit cocky after smashing success with PS1/2, but made up for it, took the silver in the end (Wii fluked to massive success, congrats Nintendo).

With PS4 we see a humbler, more confident Sony like in the older days, making focused decisions with some of the industry's biggest players, looking to take the lead.

It will be a fun year indeed.
StoutBEER  +   461d ago
Really? THAT stupid? Come on!
Grimhammer00  +   461d ago
NSA Trojan?
MS ad analytics sold to advertisers via kinect Trojan?
Hackers Trojan?
SonyKong64  +   461d ago
to disagree with your statement, is to be stupid, unaware and easily controlled by corporate propaganda, aka mainstream media aka television/news print.
StoutBEER  +   461d ago
And to go against you're statement is to go against the mainstream of n4g. The people that bash a console before playing anything. :D
DigitalRaptor  +   460d ago
Fanboys went mental that the PSN was hacked and user details were compromised, yet these same people are happy to let Microsoft hand over their more sensitive data to PRISM and NSA. They are happy to have their Skype calls monitored via Kinect, and they are happy to be listened to so Microsoft can gather pervasive analytics to use for forced personalized ads as "part of the experience".

You don't even have to ask me to remove my tin foil hat, because Microsoft have been caught invading privacy time and time again, and whether the same people want to deny this doesn't change the fact that one of the key reasons behind a required, always-listening camera for a gaming console was to use as a monitoring tool.

This is the true reason Xbox has always played to dominate the living room.
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elhebbo16  +   461d ago
only time will tell.
MASTER_RAIDEN  +   461d ago
People. Just stop. Come to grips with the fact that the xbox brand's home is LAST PLACE.

the very first xbox was words ahead of the ps2 in terms of capability. most people are ignorant and jsut think the differences were slight. absolutely not. the difference between the ps2 and xbox was pretty comparable to the current difference between xbox 360 and ps3. original xbox didnt even sell a quarter as much as the ps2. original xbox shares last place spot with gamecube.

like it or not, the xbox 360 is a damn fine machine. A DAMN FINE MACHINE. not only did it have a year head start, but it also had a much lower price point as well as an insane first party library with some premium multiplayer experiences. the first 3 years for ps3, gamers actually worried that sony was going to shut down the ol' ps factory. all these doom and gloom articles? how could they not?!? fast forward to today and the ps3 has actually OUTSOLD the 360. considering the fact that wii sales have stopped dead in their tracks, its even possible that years down the road, the ps3 will be the best selling console of its gen.

people keep trying to pain this vivid picture of 2 titans going at it for the top when its really never been that way at all. playstation just dominates the console market every time. i say that with no fanboyism intended- its just a fact.
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gnothe1  +   460d ago
So you consider sony tying MS dominating?...from having 70% market share to 30% dominating?...selling less consoles in the MOST IMPORTANT REGIONS dominating..then ok...can we admit that the ONLY REASON sony survived was because of the name brand PLAYSTATION...that allowed sony to rebound..if it was xbox that had the shitty online service..the inferior ports an the hacked network it would have been closed curtains for xbox..so lets get the playstation popularity its props.it helped saved the day..so sony dominated in no way....did they eventually rebound HELL YEAH...but dominate...HELL NO...
paranoid1971  +   461d ago
So, the author honestly thinks that people with no interest in gaming are going to pay £425 for a voice activated tv remote?
I don't know who is more deluded, the author or the people who approved this.
flunkers  +   461d ago
I will he buying an xb1 myself, but that is a fair point about the article. Microsoft will neend to be very clever with their advertising to generate sales to the mass market.
super_cuddles  +   461d ago
I'm buying one so I hope not!
KwietStorm  +   461d ago
Yes it could. But then again, it might not.
leogets  +   461d ago
yes ms will release their trojan virus
cool cole  +   461d ago
How can it be its trojan horse? Wasn't the trojan horse an appealing package that ended up being bad? How does that relate to the Xbox One looking bad to end up being good?
Funantic1  +   460d ago
Ok finally an author who gets it.
cyclindk  +   460d ago
Sure... it's just like the condom, it's restrictive and more fun without it.
Foxgod  +   460d ago
Japan its economy is suffering worse then that of most western country's.
They would have to offer the X1 at a ridiculously low price.

I think its smart of MS to wait out for now, on releasing the X1.
Also, they need to secure some exclusive killer franchises for the X1.
The exclusive J-rpg's early on on the 360 where cool, but not strong enough to get the Japanese crowd running toward the 360, the hardware failures didnt help either.

And lastly they need a different marketing strategy in Japan, gaming pretty much became mainstream in the west among all kinds of people, but in Japan gaming is still for the nerdy kind of people only.

Ms their strategy has to cater to that select group, or find a way to sell their consoles to the non nerdy Japanese, which is gonna be difficult, as the general Japanese looks down on Anime and gaming, kind of the way it was in the west before gaming became mainstream.
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Godlovesgamers  +   460d ago
"Could the Xbox One be Microsoft’s Trojan Horse?"

Delusional much?
level 360  +   460d ago
At the time being with all the negativity and constant persecution from all sides and even with the changes made by Microsoft, you can say it's all speculative until we actually hear factual and unbiased comments from gamers' who have the XBox ONE at their fingertips in their homes.

Lets' wait and see. Calling it a Trojan Horse is just another addition to all the other bad media.

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