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This Is Probably Why Ubisoft Wants Nintendo To Sell More Wii U's

Here's a chart released by Assassin's Creed/Watch Dogs/Splinter Cell publisher Ubisoft today. That'd be the publisher that put out a bunch of games for Wii U last year, including the superb launch-day exclusive ZombiU but now doesn't want to do more exclusives until Nintendo sells more systems. (Ubisoft, Wii U)

MadMen  +   938d ago
WiiU is dead
OMNlPOTENT  +   938d ago
Does your life consist of you going to Wii U articles and posting Wii U is dead? Your opinion is noted.
Muffins1223  +   938d ago
Honestly....wiiu is only 50 dollars cheaper than the ps4...and nintendo has said they dont plan on doing a price cut anytime soon....ps4 is going to dominate it in the next 5 i would basically say its a fail get me to buy one i want to see new good first party ips and way better 3rd party support and maybe a upgrade to its gpu and ram but i know 2 of those things aren't going to happen
Benjaminkno  +   938d ago
He's angry about how the MadMen series has gone and he wants to take it out on Nintendo because he can't afford a WiiU.
coltlokk  +   938d ago

Of course you can't announce a price cut before you actually do the price cut. If Nintendo said right now that they're doing a price cut sometime soon, then no one would buy a Wii U until then which equals lower sales (and think of how low it is already). So they'll keep saying no price cut...until the price cut, which may come holiday 2013.
justastranger10  +   938d ago
42% of sales just on xbox 360 o.0
assdan  +   938d ago
His ID on the wiiU's network is Dopeoplereallybythisthign?sad.
So you do the math lol.
I don't think that the wiiU's future very bright though.
JC_Denton  +   938d ago
". . . including the superb launch-day exclusive ZombiU. . ."

I was going to read this article, but everything changed when the blurb went full-retard.
LOL_WUT  +   938d ago
Sorry but MadMen is right ;)
psoomah  +   938d ago
It's painfully obvious by now the WiiU has been a continuous face plant.

EVERYTHING Nintendo has done with the WiiU has been an epic failure, from the last gen anemic hardware, to the miniscule storage, casual gamer deterring controller, massive and lengthy day one download, excruciatingly long load times, lack of system selling launch games and the dearth of must have games since.

It's just been an absolute clusterf*ck from day one.

Anyone still gung ho on the WiiU's future is divorced from reality.

The WiiU will never hit 20 million lifetime sales.
adventureghost124  +   938d ago

that is a valid point, though they should have just dropped the price right at E3 since they are way past late in the console war
3-4-5  +   938d ago
@mad, what happens when it isn't? Are you going to come back and apologize to everyone for being arrogant and completely wrong ?

No, you are too much of a coward to do that.

You can't even give a reason as to your thought ?
RememberThe357  +   938d ago
Apologize? For what exactly?
uncharted56  +   938d ago
Compared to Wii it is dead in sales number. There is no question that there is a serious lack of third party title support on Wii U and this needs to be a sign of worry when two big publishers like EA and Ubisoft say they are disappointed by the system and wont make any titles for the foreseeable future. There is nothing stopping other publishers from following EA's suite. That said Wii U has some good first party titles in the pipe for Wii U but even they will take time to come but when they do you can expect the system to fire up in sales just like it did in Japan with Pikmin 3. Nintendo but is not up with times though there hardware is miles behind in terms of power and internet structure and game development times are a joke. And damn it nintendo I want a real open world rpg Pokemon game for the Wii U with online play, I will buy one just for a game like that.
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Pope_Kaz_Hirai_II  +   938d ago
3-4-5 + 20h ago
@mad, what happens when it isn't? Are you going to come back and apologize to everyone for being arrogant and completely wrong

badz149  +   938d ago
it's still way off from dead but not doing so well and definitely not as good as Ubisoft or even Nintendo themselves would want it to be.

Ubisoft has strong proof that Wii U is unprofitable to them at the moment yet somehow some nobody claimed that Ubisoft was lying:

Ol_G  +   938d ago
you do understand that since marvel avengers they didn't do shit for nintendo that game came out decembre how the hell do you wanna sell if you don't bring shit to the system it's their own fault for delaying rayman like that
psoomah  +   938d ago
Nintendo is effectively dead in the console space. The PS4 and Xbox One will inherently have full hardware backward compatibility with future consoles. By the time Nintendo gets it's hardware act together Sony and Microsoft will so totally own the console space there will be no space left for Nintendo, even if they were actually competent on their next try.
MegaLagann  +   938d ago
Listen, I don't think anyone believes the Wii U will be as successful as the PS4 or Xbox 180, at the very least it'll be Gamecube era (which is fine considering the Gamecube was awesome). And I don't think anyone expects Wii U to make a complete reversal of fortune like the 3DS did. But if you expect that with a 3D Mario, Donkey Kong, Pikmin and Sonic this year and Bayonetta, Smash and Mario Kart early next year that the Wii U won't be SOMEWHAT successful, then you truly are a mad man.
kwandar  +   938d ago
Actually, I believe that over the next 3 years, the Wii U will dominate, and I have reasons for that.

1) Xbox1and PS4 will struggle with software first year while Nintendo will be past that.
2) Fundamental reluctance of PS3 and Xbox users to upgrade when their is no ability to play games library. Who wants ANOTHER console? They will stick to what they have longer, whereas Wii owners have no reason not to upgrade if there is software.
3)Price - I think at some point the chickens will come home to roost, when people find out there is a fee to play online with Xbox and PS.
4) Lowered PS4/Xbox expectations vs Wii U, when people have real products to compare.

For the next 3 years, (I know, surprising given current state), Wii U is likely to dominate.
mcstorm  +   938d ago
@kwandar I see where your coming from and kind of agree. What people seem to forget is the Wii sold very well to familys as it was shown as a console for all ages to play. Now back to the Wiiu they tried to push it to the core at the start with zombieu ac3, cod ect and if you look into the next 12 months they are keeping the core going with Zelda, super smash bros and more but they are also bringing in the big none core ip's like Wii fit now if you look back the Wii fit board was £100 on top of the Wii price now Nintendo have sais that the Wii fit board will work on the Wiiu so if they can get the base model down between £150 and 100 with wiiufit game and sell it right the none core will pickup the console to.

The only issue Nintendo may have is how Microsoft go about pushing Kinect on the one. Yes the console is expensive compared to the Wiiu but some times that dose not matter I'd sold right.

I do think the Xbox one and ps4 will have a slow start though as again like you said the big name games are still out on the 360 and ps3 over the next 12 months and some of them gta 5, gt6 are not on the ps4 or Xbox one so this will also hurt sales.

That said I could not say which one will sell the most but I do think it will be close between all 3 this gen. For me the next 12 months is about the Wiiu which I am loving at the moment and can't wait to get pikmin next week and the Xbox one as it has more games I want then the ps3 at this moment in time with KI and Forza 5.
Crillvirus81  +   938d ago
So tell me what game is going to sell more then Mario 3d land or Mario kart etc ....on ps4 or Xbox one by the time they come out Nintendo will be going into 5 million more then them in sales followed by a onslaught of games till next year ...Nintendo does one thing right and that's sell games so when there top ips come out there consoles sell so Mario and Zelda and donkey Kong etc will sell consoles ..just look at what pikmin 3 is doing allready in Japan
jcnba28  +   938d ago
Aww look at the fanboy everybody, how cute!
AbortMission  +   938d ago
The irony
LOL_WUT  +   938d ago
Exposed! ;)

OT: Just sell more Wii U's and devs will come flocking to your console its pretty simple just drop the price the games will come. ;)
fermcr  +   938d ago
"WiiU is dead"

What about the Vita ?

As for sales, 20% on the PC, not bad for a dead platform.
Shinox  +   938d ago
That's a handheld ..derp

We are talking about a brand new "Console"
fermcr  +   938d ago

Seriously, how old are you. Grow up !!!

BTW, the Vita is a new handheld "console", and it's sales are poor, just like the WiiU.
Cuzzo63  +   938d ago
I wonder when people are gonna stop puttimg up with N's arrogant ways. The created some of the best platformers ever. Has one of the best rpgs ever made. Yet they never wanna move towards the future. Look at the nes, they entered with a shit load of quality titles. Then comes the next best thing, Snes. Great system but do you remember when they were neglected to put blood in their games. Mortal Kombat with red sweat. Lol... But the system sold and the gamers flocked regardless... Then comes the N64. Our first 3D mario, fuckn 007, Banjoo.... But there was one problem... Can you imagime how those games would look then if they atleast had a CD drive... It was good while it lasted but Ps1 was coming into its own then with the CD rom based system that N didnt wanna pursue... Im jus gonna skip the Gamecube because anlittle gem that was the ps2 was on the scene. Gamecube finally went disc based but with so so specs. Good games tho but some developers were not looking at it. Then a few years later they come out with the Gamecube remix! Or Wii...Sold shit loads of systems and software. But I guess after having got comfy again like they were in the Snes days, their vision seems to get all cloudy like they dont have to work hard for our dollars. So here come the all powerful (debatable) WiiU. All the Nfannies were all up in arms... Its this, its that. "Ps3 and Xbox360 suck and is weaker"
Even tho once again N pulled out the arrogant card agian and figured they can jus throw something together and the Nfannies will go for it. And they did until now. But it seems like there are still a few loyalist out there that feels like its the greatest system ever but wat are they playing. Ps3 and xbox360 lol. When are you guys gonna wake up. I did and im glad I seen the light
Prime_28  +   938d ago
PS4 is dead
Cuzzo63  +   938d ago
Lol. You wish!.. LMAO!
arronax-1  +   938d ago
It isn't even here yet moron!
supersonicjerry  +   938d ago
it's dead for now but will be back next year with a bunch of good games worth buying. (the jesus of consoles) I'm still getting a ps4 although I wish I could get both.
showtimefolks  +   938d ago
Well this article if full of people saying wiiu is not dead when it's really dead

UBI is one publisher who actually supports wiiu but if sales trend continues than they will have to stop too



Yodagamer  +   938d ago
Meh they haven't made a title for the console in half a year and the ones they have put out are on other consoles with the exception of zombiu. It's crap, but i'm not surprised in the least since the wii u has the least console units sold of all major consoles.
PigPen  +   938d ago
The Playstation 4 and Xbox One sold no consoles, that's crazy talk.
C-Thunder  +   938d ago
WiiU will be fine, August starts a long run of new games for the system.

Will it sell like the PS4, no, but will it die, absolutely not. Too many good games coming for it.

If, by some strange reason I'm wrong, then gamers have made a huge mistake by letting 'shiny' stand in the way of 'fun'
Campy da Camper  +   938d ago
Mario kart 8 will be a huge system seller. All the dum dums chiming on about doom and gloom are the same chuckleheads that predicted sonys demise in 2007 and 2008.

Its just kids being kids. No ability to think past 6 months. No deep memory of years past. Just jump on the hate wagon and wave their e-peen around hoping it sprouts a hair.
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Cuzzo63  +   938d ago
DreamCast had good games too
C-Thunder  +   938d ago
Times are very different from when Dream cast's days.
Concertoine  +   938d ago
All these people declaring a console less than a year old "dead."? I think the wii u needs to find its place, but its not dead and the list of exclusive games coming looks promising.
It is overpriced? No, its selling at a loss.
It is underpowered? Nintendo, and platinum showed at e3 they know how to squeeze high resolutions and framerates with great visuals. Indies are very open to it, with tons of indies announced recently making their way to wii u. It is obvious that the console is capable for what it is striving to do.
No 3rd party support and the same games? Compared to ps4/one, true. But with W101, bayonetta 2, 3 exclusive sonic games with sega, fire emblem x shin megami tensei, the zelda formula finally changing, miyamoto's new IP, and nintendo hiring more devs its clear nintendo is looking to push fresh nintendo games out faster as well as strengthen 3rd party relations.
A lot of gamers i know are just waiting for a reason to buy a wii u. And by the end of next year, the wii u's library will be an admirable bunch of games.
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Benjaminkno  +   938d ago
Well said
N2NOther  +   938d ago
It's not underpowered when compared to Nintendo's own consoles, not at all. But when stacked against the next generation it's a joke. Sorry, but it's true. Nintendo released a current gen platform with a fancy controller...again.

I don't think Nintendo is dead but they are going to have to settle for a very, very distant 3rd. Even after all of the bad press the Xbox One has received it has a better chance at being truly successful.

The problem is that Nintendo doesn't get with the times. Miyamoto already said they didn't get on board with HD because there weren't a lot of HD TVs at the time. They just don't have enough forward thinking beyond controllers which isn't enough anymore.
Concertoine  +   938d ago
Compared to nintendo's own consoles? Of course it's more powerful than their other stuff. Should i compare it to the gamecube, or compare the ps4 to the ps2 lol? The wii u is NOT trying to be a ps4 or an xbox one, i wouldnt buy a wii u to play a gimped version of battlefield 4. I'll buy it to play games neither of the other platformd have, and to be able to play them in a completely different way.

To call the wii u "current gen" is simply silly, considering on paper the machine is indeed considerably more powerful and a lot of the upcoming games are at the highest resolution and framerate. Beyond everyones precious "specz", it offers features the past consoles couldn't handle.Take bayonetta 2 for example. Its the best looking action game at the moment, the previous one being god if war: ascension. GoW: A ran at 720p and a smidge above 30 frames. Bayonetta 2 is at 1080p and 60 frames. Hell just compare it to Platinums last action game Metal Gear Rising, it looks miles better.
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N2NOther  +   937d ago
That's great but in 4 months time that "powerful" machine is going to pale in comparison. That's an irrefutable fact.
Concertoine  +   937d ago
Hey im not saying the wii u wont pale in comparison to the ps4, that is fact. What im saying is its not a 360 either. You people act like the thing is a damn atari, it can still produce quality games without ps4 specs. The system offers a completely different experience than the ps4 does, with completely different games and a completely different controller. It isnt even comparable to a ps4, its apples to oranges.
N2NOther  +   936d ago
You're kind of reaching here, sorry. At not point did I say that it couldn't hold up with current gen games. The fact that it can is irrelevant because Nintendo isn't going for the less discerning casual market this time around. It's specs are not much different than what is currently available and in less than 4 months, the Wii U is going to be even more the red-headed stepchild of consoles to the large core market.

They aren't even getting Call of Duty: Ghosts. Like that game or not, it's one of the biggest, if not THE biggest third party title. Nintendo will have to subsist on it's own games because third parties are pretty much giving up on it.

This is 100% Nintendo's fault for concentrating again, on a new controller rather than power which clearly matters to the majority of the market.

Let me ask you this, if Nintendo truly put out a next gen console, and I mean in terms of power. storage and online infrastructure like everyone except Nintendo fans see it, would you complain or would you not be OK with it? Of course you wouldn't but because this is all Nintendo is offering you're making due.
Benjammin25  +   938d ago
I think in the long run the Wii U will do ok, but probably won't top the PS4 or Xbox 1 in sales. I don't get Nintendo though. If you want to change your current predicament, you have to get up off your arse and do something. When PS3 was struggling, Sony sorted it out. When the 360's RROD starting cropping up everywhere, MS sorted it out. Do Nintendo think just by twiddling they're thumbs, that the problem is just going to disappear? More games, Nintendo. That's your biggest hurdle right now.
Cuzzo63  +   938d ago
Totally agree. I dont know what their problem is. Its like they dont wanna evolve. They only do enough to get by. Sometimes it works. Sometimes it doesn't. I use to love Nintendo. I remember the fights I had with 2nd graders over which was better. Im 32 years old by the way. Now its like they still got the early 90's mentality when they had no competition. Look what happened to Sony tho they did a complete comeback, they lost most of their install bade to others. Same will happen again to N.
Brasi1989  +   938d ago
I assume that's why their fall schedule is crammed with goodies...
MegaLagann  +   938d ago
*Reads comments in article*

It amuses me that people still think the Wii U is going to make Nintendo go third party. Firstly, the have enough money in the bank where the Wii U can be a failure and they'll still be fine (if their next console after that were a failure too, well then that may be a different story) but that's not factoring in that the 3DS is making a killing now.

As for the main topic, the Wii U could make a big surge this holiday if Nintendo just does these simple things.
- Price cut
- Holiday bundles
- More deals like the Fire Emblem/Shin Megami Tensei IV deal
- Get your head out of your a**
TekoIie  +   938d ago
I also think people should take a look at the games Ubi's been releasing. After taking a glimpse I am in some ways happy they sold badly on Wii U.

In regard to what you said they're making small steps here and there. When it comes to games there are some solid titles releasing, a price cut in the UK and Pikmin did have an ad.
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Brasi1989  +   938d ago
HAHA!!! This made me laugh...


RELEASE DATE: November 18, 2012
GENRE: Fighting

It's like they don't even know!
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Cuzzo63  +   938d ago
True, but what will the share holders think of this. If it all goes sour things can turn ugly very quick. Tho I doubt it will happen, its Nintendo for christ sakes.
LOL_WUT  +   938d ago
If Nintendo has as much money as you say they have then why don't they invest that money into buying new exclusives? And while their at it why not drop the price? After all they could a take a loss or two right? ;)
Stroke666  +   938d ago
Just because they can survive a loss doesn't mean they should purposely seek a loss. They have spent money on exclusives, bayo2, sonic? They are and will be the cheapest console of the big three they do not need a price cut, I don't know what ur wallet looks like but 50 dollars is not chump change. Once the games start rolling in I think a lot of people will start seeing the wii u for what it is, a good system
Cuzzo63  +   938d ago
Because its Nintendo... Look at what happened in the Ps1 era. They didnt wanna evolve. Wii was not a upgrade, it was a casual gimmick machine. As long as the Nfannies continue to offer them money, Nintendo will never change. They are to comfortable. Too arrogant.
TekoIie  +   938d ago

Its like google doesnt exist to you...
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TekoIie  +   937d ago

You cant disagree with a fact.

"If Nintendo has as much money as you say they have then why don't they invest that money into buying new exclusives?"

Not sure why your finding this so hard:
herbs  +   938d ago
When the PS4 Xbone release the Wii U will have a solid line up of games so it will stay competitive to think otherwise is just unwise.
Campy da Camper  +   938d ago
Hey, I'm a die hard Sony user and I do serious gaming sessions on my ps3. But there is no denying how much fun a Wii U is to play. Sure, games are not plentiful at the moment but come on, like Nintendo is just going to abandon their console. Jesus Lol. System sellers are coming folks. Kids need Xmas presents. Hell, Mario kart 8 in 1080p at 60fps? Yes please!

So ubisoft and co are holding back. Makes sense since the install base is low. Let's revisit their stance AFTER the holidays, say, next March. All I know is it makes a great back up to my ps3. Laying in bed playing the Nintendo staples on my plasma and being able to go on the porch for fresh air and KEEP playing on the gamepad is sweet.
Benjaminkno  +   938d ago
Yeah dude, I think Nintendo does well when it takes risks. Sure it'd be nice to see WiiU do half as well as it's predecessor, but in my mind I'm feeling like I will like WiiU better than what Nintendo has ever come out with. This Gamepad has really won me over.
psoomah  +   938d ago
Except all the parents will be hearing is PS4 and Xbox. Over and over and over and over and over again. The push from the under 16 demographic for Nintendo will be all but non-existent.
tubers  +   938d ago
Except most parents will turn their heads several times when they hear Mario.
t3gamenews  +   938d ago
the only exclusives they released on wii u is zombi u, other than that we also had assasins creed, 3. compared to all of the games already on 360 & ps3 by them? these sales?
Stroke666  +   938d ago
That works both ways, all the games or at least most of the games coming to psxbone will also be on last gen systems why buy a new console for them. And by that time nintendo will have a nice line up of exclusives that u can only play on wii u not wii u and wii. I don't believe psxbone will sell as well as everyone is expecting and I'm getting a ps4 myself
Brasi1989  +   938d ago
Sense... you have some! +B
t3gamenews  +   937d ago
agreed apon. others dont seem to care tho, they just go oh wait a nintendo console & a game didnt sell on it, there for nitnendo sucks. & there gamers odnt want that kinda game. bla bla. instead of doing further research on why there game didnt sell.
McScroggz  +   938d ago
I was just thinking, I wonder how the Wii U and other consoles would perform if China was a legitimate market. I have virtually no insight into if this would be possible or likely in my lifetime given the very different culture China has to America. Still, it is an interesting thought.

Would the cheaper Nintendo console with much more user friendly, accessible games be a huge hit. Or, given the seemingly (apologize for relative ignorance) meager game options make the much shinier, more powerful PS4/Xbox One appeal more?

I know this is barely on topic, but it's an interesting thought.
Gameflue  +   938d ago
So your telling me that a new console, costing more than old consoles who have sold more than 150 million units combined sells less software?
D-riders  +   938d ago
wii u is the only system im currently playing
Flames76  +   938d ago
Nintendo is done as far as consoles go.So they just need to become a software company.
Run_bare  +   938d ago
Nintendo suck ass, they have the IP of Fatal Frame one of the best horror franchise in PS2 Era. They release Mask of the Lunar eclipse in Japan only on Wii without any western release.

I hope they fail, wasted money on a console. I will not buy a Wii U until they release Fatal Frame.
Smoey  +   938d ago
Just can this already and make the N64-next gen - N128
seroxat  +   938d ago
Nintendo have many great IP's. Would be awesome if they would team up with Sony in the future and act as a software company and release games for the PS. But it's highly unlikely to happen but you can dream. Sony is a superior hardware manufacturer, much better than both Nintendo and Microsoft. It would be awesome to see what Sonys hardware could do with some of Nintendos software! I love Nintendo, but my love for them is in the classic hardware as NES,SNES and N64. Wii was a disappointment imo, I'm just not a big fan of motion controls.
Dlacy13g  +   938d ago
To correct the title it should read: This is exactly why Ubisoft wants Nintendo to sell more WiiU's. My God those numbers are scary bad.
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Rhaigun  +   938d ago
Superb launch game? Totillo, you are mistaken.
FanOfRootBeer  +   938d ago
Good article, and good information, but it really boils down to:

Nintendo wants to sell more Wii Us because they need to sell more Wii Us. No amount of financial statements will change that simple fact.
mochachino  +   938d ago
While I have little to no interest in Wii U, I bet its sales will pick up one Nintendo FINALLY starts releasing it's heavy hitters and drops the price.
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Corpser  +   938d ago
Was just at The Nintendo lounge at comic con, very strong lineup incoming here, WiiU will be fine
windblowsagain  +   938d ago
The Wii u needs more mario.

Mario and luigi save the world.

Mario and peach sit in the castle together for lunch.

Peach really fancies luigi

I'm just messing, The best game coming for the system for me would be MARIO KART 8.

Vita is in need of PS4.
jmc8888  +   937d ago
That chart doesn't show anything.

It shows, like with EVERY console launched, a need for consoles to be sold or else there aren't alot of sales.

But think about it. 90 million versus what 4 million? If you know what a ratio means, this would indicate that Ubisoft SHOULD be selling 17x or so more copies on xbox 360 and 17x or so more on a PS3 then on a Wii U.

So if both xbox 360 and PS3 have 23 percent of the sales, what should the Wii U be at percentage wise to be equal console to console?

Simple 23/17 = 1 6/17

So if Ubisoft is only garnering about 1 and 1/3 percentage points of their sales on the Wii U, it is equal when you compare the number of consoles sold amongst the three.

So when 3 percent are being sold to Wii U owners, it looks like the attachment rate of Ubisoft games to Wii U owners is over double that of PS3 and 360 owners.

Plus remember that many Wii U owners also own a PS3, 360, PC, or all of the above.

The first rule about charts and percentages, is you have to know how to READ and INTERPRET the chart.

Overall sales are low, but as a percentage to the console they are rather high. Hardly a sign that Nintendo users are shunning their products.

The way to read it is that if things were able to stay constant on this ratio, and nothing has shown that it will or won't, then if there were 45 million units of Wii U out there it would be selling slightly more games on the Wii U then PS3 or Xbox 360.

My god this simple graph is being read wrong by almost everyone. It takes THREE SECONDS to figure it out.

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