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Submitted by Lavalamp 773d ago | news

Itagaki: current console model “isn’t going to work”

Console gaming isn’t going to survive if the industry just keeps doing the same old stuff, according to Ninja Gaiden and Dead or Alive creator Tomonobu Itagaki. (PS3, PS4, Tomonobu Itagaki, Wii U, Xbox 360, Xbox One)

Need4Game  +   773d ago
Guess no more Sexy Games from Itagaki.
Muffins1223  +   773d ago
You guys hate the anti used game policy micrsoft used but in honest it needs to be done if we want aaa or everything will be indie and/or free to play..your choice
NioRide  +   773d ago
Seems PC gaming does just fine, So well in fact I just bought 7 games for less than $20 yesterday.
Erudito87  +   773d ago
sony's blu ray seemed to nulify piracy on the ps3. Maybe if ms filled out the blu rays for xb1 with high quality audio and visuals it would do just fine.
morganfell  +   773d ago | Well said
What a hypocrite. Itagaki has zero right to tell anyone how financial matters will impact gaming. He jetsetted and partied his title's budget into the ground when it was at THQ long before that publisher hit the rocks. Even THQ realized this guy was a wasted mountain of cash.

You had your 15 minutes Itagaki now get the hell out of here. And take CliffyB with you.
Salooh  +   773d ago
Games should be cheaper with easier and faster to access not the other way. It's already annoying to play video games and you want it worst so the developers rip us off even more ??
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Aceman18  +   773d ago
I haven't taken anything crater face has said seriously for a long time. I wondered what happened to him since I haven't heard nor seen anything from seen.

Also how about he just let's this play out before coming out with his doom and gloom.

Also if the industry grossed over 7 billion last year how exactly is it in trouble?
modesign  +   772d ago
DRM would only create lazy developers that know they dont have to try.
SpideySpeakz  +   772d ago
Then I'll take the Indies. AAA titles are going a route of soulless, cheesy, and uncreative direction. It's becoming like the movie industry.
Enigma_2099  +   772d ago
How the hell is selling used games stopping them from doing anything besides getting more of our money?
zippycup  +   772d ago
but in pc gaming the only ones who really make money are part vendors

and lets be honest any snot nosed kid can copy pc games then go online and find a key or a hack

the only thing i miss about pc gaming is modding community if Sony and Microsoft can find a way to let us make mods and addons on pc and port them to ps4 xboxone

and the thing i love the most about console gaming is going to buy games and not having to read specs to make sure my machine can run it
JohnnyBadfinger  +   772d ago
@Erudito87
That's a croc of shit and you know it. If you have been on any torrent site you'll know you can get every PC XB360 PS3 title ever made. Bluray did nothing to stop piracy.
3-4-5  +   772d ago
Just because 10% of the industry isn't intelligent enough to realize we need options doesn't mean we NEED to give in to their ignorance.

Only thing it helps, is companies make more money.

Games don't get better or cheaper in moving to a different model.

We don't get any added content or double the value, but they make a lot more money.

That is all it is. A few guys getting butthurt because they only have 7 ferraris.
SpinalRemains138  +   772d ago
Nope.

DRM policy that MS was pushing does nothing but ensures that we get garbage crappy games more often, as devs and publishers will not have to rely on content to reach their sales goals.

One crappy game may be sold back 20 times, and the publisher would have been paid each time.

Think

If the publishers have less incentive to push monies toward a game (cough Kinect), then they most assuredly will not.
Its all about the most profit with the least overhead.

This is why Kinect is forced into the new Xbox. So that in a few years they can AGAIN focus on those games. Theyre the cheapest to make and you wont have any other choice at that point.

Its a classic bait n switch with the new xbox.
Have you seen Titanall?
tiffac008  +   772d ago
DRM on physical media is not the magic pill that will cure the industry.

Unrealistic sales expectations that leads to unbalance budgets is the biggest problem the industry has now.

When you have games that sells into the millions and not make any profit. You know there is something seriously wrong there. We are not even sure if they are losing money solely on game development or other investments.

So this DRM thing is just an easy way to get more cash out of the consumers without fixing the problem from within.
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RedHawkX  +   772d ago
what happend to itagakis face? looks like ninja gaiden sliced his face up.
zeal0us  +   773d ago
At first I thought this would a Cliffy B style rant about how consoles aren't going to survive because blah blah blah AAA budget blah blah blah.

"Having a system that just reads controller input, makes a screen image and outputs it to the TV isn't going to work, no matter how rich the media it's producing."

This method is on every platform whether its pc, consoles, handhelds or mobile devices. I doubt this will change for a long time. Sure virtual reality is on the rise but that only change POV the method of input is still controller or keyboard and mouse.
webeblazing  +   772d ago
i think he saying every gen its more of the same and people usually expect something different.

the comments the devs was saying and the article is kinda funny. most of them wasnt impress by the showing at e3. i know i wasnt it was just more of the same. and thats the way i felt too

"The show floor seemed flooded with all of these franchise titles, and as a result nothing left that much of an impression on me. The Western market has continued to mature in a way, but personally I felt like it's definitely about to face a transition period." - Toshihiro Nagoshi, creator of the Yakuza series
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MASTER_RAIDEN  +   773d ago
man...you would seriously think these devs were TRYING to get quoted on everything they say nowadays.
JohnS1313  +   773d ago
Yawn. More nonsense about console gaming dying.
Lannister  +   773d ago
The day I decide to listen to a guy who refuses to take off his shades indoors is the day console gaming really WILL die.
MWong  +   772d ago
Take in mind he uses shades to help him create the "life-like" boobs in DOA. I think if he ever takes off his shades you'll see his Terminator eye.

I bet if his games sold like a; COD, Halo, Last of Us or Uncharted game would he even say something like this. Leave the crazy rantings to Cliffy B.
IQUITN4G  +   773d ago
If games are essentially just prettier versions albeit with funky 'new' layers then certainly the industry is going hurt or even crash. And then there's this new much larger fickle audience that despite generating more money in the short term, may just about have killed gaming as we know it. It was always doomed anyway I suppose. Truth is I'm certainly not looking forward to simply more of the same and I'd be willing to bet many aren't either

I'd say films too are in danger of crashing as the thrill of in your face eventually starts to bore

It's going to be interesting to see how the next 10 years goes regarding this stuff
Valkyre  +   773d ago
Meanwhile The Last of Us sold 3.4 million copies in 3 weeks...

Just because Itakagi cant do anything else other than huge boobs and decapitations/mutilations, which results in poor sales, that isnt the industry's fault...or an indication that "it wont work"...

It wont work "for him", thats what he is actually talking about.

Maybe he should rethink about how "original" and "mature" his games are. He made ONE good game. Ninja Gaiden.

Maybe people got bored of his -mutilation mixed boobs- fetish and expect something more and something new for a change, that maybe , just maybe he will be able to sell it better...

But I highly doubt it, I dont think he is capable of greatness.
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wishingW3L  +   773d ago
Itagaki saved Tecmo from bankruptcy with Ninja Gaiden and Dead or Alive. And for the future obligatory disagrees, this is a fact. -__-
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Valkyre  +   773d ago
And has NOTHING to do with what we are talking about, which is what happened THIS generation, where he did nothing of importance and he went downhill, up to the point where Tecmo actually... FIRED HIM.

It was cool and all that he saved them from bankruptcy AGES ago (and I mentioned ninja gaiden), but how many sales has he achieved lately with his final works? And when was the last time he released something good?

Yep. Exactly.

That is the point.

And it is also a FACT.

^_^
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Heartnet  +   772d ago
so what? u compare that to farmville runescape etc and those numbers are tiny in comparsion to the dev costs for each of those

u will see a shift in how games are made and marketed as the profits are hard to get and very risky
Hicken  +   772d ago
Where's the proof that profits are getting harder to obtain? And I don't mean quotes from devs or publishers.

I mean concrete numbers.
Heartnet  +   771d ago
You want proof?

how about so many triple A developers getting shut down cause their sales didnt reach that they needed cause of CoD and battlefield monopolising every sale for an fps?

THQ went bust cause no sales even though creating an amazing game...

APB team getting shut down cause not enough sales and had to be bought and gone free to play to survive..

Zipper shut down...

evidence is all around you... a triple A games has to sell in the millions to even approach a worthwhile profit which is why ur seeing a rise in micro-transactions, day 1 dlc and more and more indie games.
Becuzisaid  +   773d ago
Ha, well here's something. My response:

Neither will your games.
BABY-JEDI  +   773d ago
Is he talking about his own work?
HammockGames  +   773d ago
I found that ironic, too.

"Itagaki" and "isn't going to work" just kinda go together in recent years.
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Knushwood Butt  +   773d ago
Unfortunately, this guy has yet to prove anything since leaving Tecmo.

I don't think anyone gives a rat's ass what he thinks.
Clarence  +   773d ago
Another idiot like cliffy B
Gamer666  +   772d ago
These guys are making valid points. People are only idiots if they don't listen and understand...

Calling people idiots for raising concerns such as these will only lead to the demise of the gaming industry.
Clarence  +   772d ago
Nope he's a arrogant idiot. Ninja gaiden, has gotten pretty repetitive.
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Heartnet  +   772d ago
yeh some1 who has made a very confortable living in the games industry is obv an idiot whereas you are the obv genius...

His words carry weight unlike urs which are just idiotic...

and idiot cliffy b? you mean the guy behind on of the greatest game engines in assistance? the guy who has made such a big impact on the industry is an idiot... then why havnt u made any impact on the industry if ur so fuking smart ...
Clarence  +   772d ago
I could care less how much money they've made off their games or their engines. My problem with them is their idiotic arrogant remarks that they keep making.

Im rasing a baby who I hope will turn I to be a good man like me. I'm currently in school for illustration and concept art. 3 more classes and im done. Along with working 50hrs a week and being a husband. I'm quite happy with how things are going for me. So what type of impact are you making in society?

Cliffy b might have help build the unreal engine but that doesn't make what he says law. Unreal engine is cool but not great. The engine that naughty dog uses is much better IMO. The new fox engine that Kojima is using is better.
WitWolfy  +   772d ago
Why does he always act like a pimp and wear glasses?? Man he is such a poser!
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Heartnet  +   772d ago
cause thats how he wants to look...

like why do u have a vegeta icon? ur obv not vegeta...

do people question how you look? he wears what he wants to wear cause thats what he wants to wear
modesign  +   772d ago
is itagaki still making games.
Lavalamp  +   772d ago
Devil's Third is supposedly in the final stage of development, but Itagaki is still shopping around for a publisher.
fastNslowww  +   772d ago
The perfect BS excuse for someone who cant keep up with the competition. I honestly respect the guy thanks to the likes of Ninja Gaiden, but with such a remark regarding current gen consoles its easy to see his frustrating efforts for something different, perhaps its reflected by his past gaming development issues. He doesn't have to be creative or do something original, Which is kinda impossible. But do it well enough with some fresh aspects...a little goes a long way if done right. Hopefully he gets a bigger dev team to back up his true potential. Shall see.
TheRealHeisenberg  +   772d ago
Ninja Gaiden clearly misses him.
MrTrololo  +   772d ago
Shut up and go make a game then we talk
Gamer666  +   772d ago
He's not able to make a game because the model won't let him make money...

His resume is impressive... Ninja Gaiden, Ninja Gaiden Black, and Ninja Gaiden II. These are great core games. But, now he can't find a publisher probably because the sales aren't going to match up with the cost to develop these types of games.
NewVegasTroop  +   772d ago
who is this guy and what did he do that make him important? I remember seeing him in a E3 press conference long ago.
pixelsword  +   772d ago
"Ninja Gaiden and Dead or Alive creator Tomonobu Itagaki"
amobius  +   772d ago
It would be nice to see some type of footage of devils third im starting to lose hope thats its ever going to be released.
mydyingparadiselost  +   772d ago
The current model isn't going to work, it's true, but all the other offered models aren't going to work either.
Heartnet  +   772d ago
f2p model and the likes have proven very much to work aswell as the social/casual market model.. small development costs and huge profits
mydyingparadiselost  +   772d ago
F2P can work but a F2P model for AAA would almost certainly mean pay to win. The casual/social only works because of extremely low dev cost and wouldn't work for much of anything outside of that particular demographic. The day I have to pay a dollar to continue in Uncharted or wait 8 hours is the day I stop gaming.
Lord_Sloth  +   772d ago
Unless you're updating me on Devil's Third, I don't wanna hear a thing out of you, Itagaki! GIMME THAT AMAZING GAME!
zekk  +   772d ago
wasn't that game cancelled?
Lord_Sloth  +   770d ago
Probably but I hope not.
CEOSteveBallmer  +   772d ago
I don't get his point? is he talking about the industry needs to do something new?? Mobile games and tablets can never replace core games. The japanese developers are under delivering games lately, resident evil, final fantasy. except for konami and hideo kojima which I like the new castlevania and MGS4 plus rising.
ShaunCameron  +   772d ago
I'm still waiting for Devil's Third.
assdan  +   772d ago
More people in the US still game on consoles more than any platform. I doubt they're going to all decide to stop now. I agree that PC's are going to start taking more and more of the market though. There is probably 1 or two good generations left if something doesn't change.
Tzuno  +   772d ago
banzaiiiiiiiii!!!!

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