"Now that there's another Naughty Dog game with a 10 from IGN, does that mean Drake's Deception means less?"
In my opinion TLOU takes the story telling and the immersion to a whole new level, but it doesn't "downgrade" UC 3 at all, for me. What I think of the game hasn't changed a bit even after playing TLOU.
Uncharted 3 is just as much of a 10 as The Last of Us is a 10, if not more so. Uncharted 3 was the third installment of Uncharted and had to find some way to top and improve upon Uncharted 2, which many considered one of the best games ever made. Ucharted 3 did just that, bringing even more amazing set-pieces, evolved melee mechanics that made it even better, fantastic character development and a story with nice twists and huge action moments and was bold enough to put the characters before the treasure this time around. I just think Uncharted 3 and The Last of Us are two masterpieces
Uncharted 3's aiming mechanics to this day are awful. I got through it first time I played it but after getting it again on ps+ its hard to play through it again.
I hate questions like this. What's one 10 got to do with the other? Two different games, two different franchises. So The Last of Us is now considered Naughty Dog's best game. Let me go back to Uncharted 3, another 10 game, compare it to a survival action game, and figure out why it's not a 10 anymore. Does this make any sense to anyone? It's pretty idiotic. Uncharted 3 is a 10 game, just like Uncharted 2 is. The Last of Us is just as much a 10 as both, if not more, considering so many people are seeing it as Naughty Dog's best now. Naughty Gods reign supreme.
How can you even act as if UC3 has an even remotely decent story. It was as if they wrote 4 complete storys and cut them together. None of the twists had any impact on the story, none of them made sense. They flip flopped around different locations with no real reason for being there. They built on a sense of betrayal. But no one betrayed anyone. They acted as if there was a mystery to Drake but there wasn't It was Michael Bay kind of stuff.
I played some Uncharted 3 multiplayer lastnight for the first time in around 8 months, and I forgot just how much fun it is, and how great the graphics look.
Uncharted 3 was never a 10 in my book. It wasn't a bad game but it definitely wasn't better than Uncharted 2 or in this case The Last of Us.
Same. I thought U2 was the epitome of the series. TLOU is on a whole different level though.
"Immersion to a whole new level" Yeah, sure.. Like a clickers which have a finely tuned ears that hear your quietest movements. And yet, your companions speak all too loudly near enemies or stand blithely in the open, all while the grotesque monsters obtusely ignore them.. or when a gang of savage monsters waits patiently for you to open a door to freedom, and watches ambivalently as you close it securely behind you.
ND made that happen in case the partner AI decided to act wonky. They didnt want all the hard work of stealthing through a section to be busted by your partner's AI.
What about the georgous environments, the incredible amout of details in each of them, the stellar soundtrack and sound design and stuff like that ? Don't they contribute to the immersion ?
@ShugaCane Yeah they contribute it, but it doesn't take immersion to 'a whole new level', many good games have that, nothing new
Yes, in terms of time. We do not re-grade games 4th dimensionally or else where do you stop? The first Uncharted? Earlier consoles?
My thoughts exactly. You can't go about questioning review scores each time a new (arguably better) game comes out; when U3 came out, people thought it was worthy of 10/10. When TLoU came out, the tens rolled in again. Yes, there are obvious advancements in visuals, story etc. in the latter, but the former is still stellar. I played U3 after completing TLoU and love every second of it.
I love both games, but for me Last of US really out did it. I like UC for what it is and last of us for what it is. Both are 10's OT: Also, lol that's my image (featured) I PS a while back XD.
i would not give TLOU a perfect score, I kinda don't like that enemies ignore AI partners, even when they are running in front of them. either they should sneak better or just get attacked. it really annoys me...other than that, I think it's a great game, even though I get a bit frustrated with Survivor difficulty.
that was ND choice they didn't want them to break your stealth when enemies spot them they become visible when you are in a fight
A 10 on a different level. Dont forget it's an older game as well.
Uncharted 3 was never worthy of a 10 but Uncharted 2 was.
Exactly, Uncharted 3 would need to be a 10 for this article to even exist, and even then, there is no reason a game should lose its score just because a newer game (specially one that isn't from the same franchise) gets released.
"Exactly, Uncharted 3 would need to be a 10 for this article to even exist," This is IGN, the site that gave Uncharted 3 a 10/10. So what the hell are you talking about?
Uncharted 3 is not a ten when compared to Uncharted 2 but it is compared to it's other peers. I think some people are confused on this. UC3 is better than a lot of games, and in the absence of UC2, it's right up there with TLoU. I think it's not really fair to compare a really good game in UC3 with two legendary titles like UC2 and TLoU.
@Riderz1337 IGN only seems to be relevant around here when it comes to Sony exclusives and I don't even dislike Sony at all, just sayin'...
Yes, because it's not a 'comparative' 10, it's symbolic of a great game. Games improve all the time and it would be ludicrous to assume future quality in order to justify downscaling the score of recently released games. We are not blessed with hindsight in the 'now', we can only assess something as of this moment, this time, this era. Perhaps, given hindsight, we could argue that TLOU is more deserving of a 10 but we can't argue that Uncharted 3 shouldn't be a 10.
TLOU = Uncharted 2 > Uncharted 3
He's saying The Last of Us is of the same quality as Uncharted 2, and that Uncharted 3 is not as good as either of them. I think that Uncharted 3 is technically a better game than Uncharted 2, but I actually enjoyed UC2 more. The Last of Us stomps on them both, both technically and by how enjoyable and memorable it was for me. But opinions, eh?
^ Yeah, the 1st sentence of what Digital Raptor said
When was Uncharted 3 ever a 10? IGN gave this game a 10? I don't remember that. Wow.
I remember it. IGN had been undergoing massive criticism at the time for giving PS games lower-than-expected scores. It was getting bad, and then UC3 happened and the score surprised everyone.
Why would Uncharted 3's score change just because The Last of Us also got a 10? :S
Because people need ridiculous things to write about.
Agreed, the concept is ridiculous.
For me, Uncharted 3 > Uncharted 2 > TLOU. Uncharted has huge set pieces, wonderful environments and cool music. TLOU is well-writter with a good atmosphere, but doesn't quite reach Uncharted in my heart.
Don't compare Boring Ass Uncharted 3 2 a gem like TLOU.
UC2-10 UC3 -9 TLOU-9.5
Uc2- 10 Uc3- 9.5 TLoU- 9.8
UC2 - 10 UC 3 - 9.5 TLOU - 11
UC1 - 7.5/10 UC2 - 9.5/10 UC3 - 8.5/10 TLoU - 10/10. TLoU > UC2 > UC3 > UC1. If you don't agree with my scores I'm sure the vast majority of people agree with my order. I can't believe IGN's Greg Miller gave UC3 a perfect score. Watch this to see why UC3 didn't deserve that score: http://www.youtube.com/watc...
I didn't like U3, I loved the first two but the story of U3 just kinda fell flat in the ending, though it was very pretty and had some cool parts in it. TLoU is on another level though, one of the best games I have played. But I prefer a darker more vicious story so it has that edge.
Exactly. Uncharted 3 is amazing from a technical stand point. But narrative wise they felt flight when you compare it to Uncharted 2 and The Last of Us. A lot of of Uncharted 3 sections were a copy paste the from Uncharted 2. The ending to it felt rush and Idk it just didn't do it for me. The Last of Us narrative is truly amazing because that didn't revolve around the set pieces like Drakes deception did.
They're totally different games. So I'd say no, it doesn't change what U3 is.
UC3 is one of the most overrated games this gen.
Uncharted 2&3 and the last of us are all 10s to me.
I just couldn't get into UC3. I loved 2, but the third one just didn't do it for me. The Last of Us is just on a whole different level completely though, in my opinion. That game is still staying with me in the back of my head even after multiple play-throughs. I just can't stop thinking about it, it's crazy.
Uncharted 8.5/10 Uncharted 2 10/10 Uncharted 3 8/10 (halo 3 ending)
Uncharted Drakes fortune: 7.9/10 Uncharted 2: 9.9/10 (I never give 10's sorry still my favourite game of all time) Uncharted 3: 9.0/10 Uncharted Golden abyss: 8.8/10 Platinumed them all =D
If you never give 10s why have a rating out of 10?
@PirateThom What should I have a rating out of? Apples? The only reason for not giving 10's is maybe a bit too rational on my part but IMO no game's perfect.
Spot on with Uncharted 3. I would score Drake's fortune higher though, and Among Theives lower because no game is perfect.
I much prefer Uncharted 2 to Uncharted 3. UC3's aiming was just... off. And it took way to long to get into the combat setups. Some of the set pieces were absolutely amazing, and I love how they kept the "supernatural" a bit more questionable, but something still felt off. If only they didn't butcher UC2's MP with a ton of "balance" patches. Le sigh.
And you will find that the aiming is still off to this day. I thought they patched it, obviously not. Ruins the game for me, it's so clunky.
I prefer aiming pre-patch. After the patch, it was so sensitive you could barely nudge the stick and you'd move your reticle. Before the patch, the dead zone was larger, but at least your weren't waving your gun everywhere like an idiot. I got used to the original controls, so I prefer them over the new controls. Uncharted 2's aiming was perfect in every way though. No idea why they felt the need to change it. Also, Uncharted 3 had a lot of texture pop-in areas and even The Last of Us has a few texture problems in certain parts of the game. I like all 3 games though. Uncharted 2 was the best though.
I didn't know Uncharted 3 was a 10, but I like The Last Of Us more. Much deeper gameplay, and more of it. Almost felt twice as long by the time my first playthrough was done.
After my 4th playthrough in TLOU, It took me a few days to find a game that will satisfy my gaming needs so I tried playing UC 2 and UC 3. The UC and TLOU are quite different. UC is very fun while TLOU is somber.
Just wait for the inevitable "Is GTAIV still a 10 after GTAV" video/article from IGN. j/s
To me GTA was maybe an 8.5. Red Dead Redemption was a MUCH better game. Hell, I even preferred LA Noire to GTA 4. GTA 5 does look sick though.
If the game was worth a 10 when it was released then it's worth it later too. Downgrading a good game just because something new comes out is silly.
I think Uncharted 2 is a 10 still. That game was just an overall blast to play. They arent really similar games in anyway, so i dont think its fair to compare the 2. Uncharted was going for the adventurous fun factor, TLoU was going for a deep story telling level..and they both succeeded what they were going for
not really how reviews work ign
Is Ocarina of Time still a 10 after TLoU??????
Imho Uncharted 3 is 9/10 material not 10 , now Uncharted 2 that's a whole different story . the Uncharted games to me are : Uncharted 1 : 8.5/10 Uncharted 2 : 10/10 Uncharted 3 : 9/10 to be fair not the whole team worked on Uncharted 3 like they did on 2, i believe they split into two teams and hired some new members so one team works on Uncharted 3 and the other which has most of Uncharted 2 crew works on The Last of Us. at least that's what i think i heard.
The Last of Us is getting way too much praise. It was a good game, but it's far from perfect. There were sections where I was just plain bored... I didn't feel like I was surviving, just walking around picking up stuff. Plus, the game got a little tedious toward the end. Every part felt the same (hey, help me up there... grab a ladder or a wood plank... rinse and repeat. There was also way too many boring walking parts. The story was good, but I think the tension could've been a little better. The Last of Us was also a walk in the park (and I played it on normal). I thought Max Payne 3 was a lot harder and had better shootouts.
Mp3 is a totally different game and every single game gets repetitive. MP3 shoot enemies in area - move on to next - rinse and repeat. Also you played TLOU on normal TLOU Normal = Action/Stealth game TLOU = Hard especially Survival = Survival/stealth/action game TLOU is a totally different game on Survival.
I just feel like I had a lot more fun with shooting in Max Payne 3.
Who cares? A score can mean anything people want it to.
It doesn't change the status of Uncharted 3 - awesome game BUT AFTER playing TLOU, then going back to Uncharted 3, you can so easily tell TLOU is on a whole different level.
Apples and oranges. Also, personally, I give Uncharted a 9 while The Last of Us gets an 8. Could not play TLOU more than once while I played U3 five times.