Expect "very intense missions from the start", says Rockstar.
I am glad the "won't let you do crazy things for no reason" is more to do with the plot than the free roam element of the game
Well thats the only reason i played GTA3 and all others and thats why GTA 4 sucked ass. Now i know not to buy it there story was wasnt that good to start with and the fun of all the games was making the game and story your own. So its gone in the wrong direction for me so ill skip it thanks for the heads up. They should have made the game just like the Gay tony expansion now thats was a proper GTA game, not crawl up its own ass like GTA 4 did.
Apparently, you didn't read the article but rather just the headline. There's a reason why there's an article included. It's there to read.
As Phear said. Read the article. The exact quote is: "...all of it will be plausible, carefully framed by the plot. You won't see anyone doing crazy things for no reason. " Says nothing about the sandbox elements of the game. I am sure, just like all GTAs, you can take the protagonist(s) and go do whatever you feel like.
People read the article. i suspect there's Some illiterate people in n4g.
Grap: If they could read the title they wouldn't be illiterate :)
I really liked GTA IV (was I the only one?). I actually hope it plays more GTA 4ish and less of the past GTA's aka Saint Row-ish. I actually like the more realistic, mature overtone approach. Plus it'll really start to set itself apart from the Saint Row Series, they each can have their own lane and approach the open-world differently. Now if that is what Rockstar's hinting at...the article wasn't laced with overwhelming details, but I hope that's what they were getting at.
Reading is hard and takes up to much time... /s
GTA4 was trash, besides the graphical overhaul it was garbage. With that said it didn't stop me from playing it twice. But yeah it was a step back from SanAndreas. But what are you gonna do...? Play saints row? Lol pass..
@b163o1 Yes i played saints row 3 and it was a tie for my game of the year with Skyrim it was that good.
Buy the next Saints Row game that comes out August 20th instead if u think GTA has gone in the wrong direction. I will be getting both.
@Scholla I liked GTA4 as well. Don't really get why people think it's not any good but throw massive praise towards GTA3 and Vice City. What's in those games that you can't do on GTA4? Literally nothing. The shooting from Scarface the World is Yours was used in all current gen Rockstar games, You can either auto aim and it'll allow you to target body parts, or you can manual aim. In Scarface the World Is Yours there was a benefit for using manual aim.
@kupomogli For one thing you could cause more mehem in the old games without the police showing up. And they made getting away from the police alot harder and they also kill you faster.
yeah i think they mean they wont have you getting in some circus cannon and getting fired out of it with a dildo or something to beat up some regular street thug.
im sure pretty sure thats a side mission in Saints Row 4... lol
Well you'll still see me doing crazy things for no reason.
The more I hear, the more I like. Hope it's not too bombastic though, I like to be able to explore without interference early on in an open world game.
This is disappointing. There needs to be an element of over-the-top, madness inducing violence and action, both in the story and the free roaming experience. And things that don't really make sense. No one ever explained why there we're gangs of elvis-imitators in GTA2 and yet it was awesome.
I think Trevor has you covered. I can't wait to play his parts of the game.
That kind of stuff ends up turning into a gimmick (see Saints Row 3)where they try to shove the over the topness down your throat by the beginning. I think a healthy balance would be to give the player the tools to be creative and do over the top things like steal a jet from the military and start bombing area 51 (San Andreas) but not making it painfully obvious that that is the type of thing they want you to be doing.
Stealing a jet and bombing area 51 doesn't sound a lot like "...all of it will be plausible, carefully framed by the plot. You won't see anyone doing crazy things for no reason. " now does it?
@anticlimax, This is where reading would do you some good. Nothing has been written/said that would make me think that there is not going to be some insanely over the top moments in the game. What they are saying is that everything in the campaign is going to have context as to why you are doing it and that it will be plausible, not impossible. This isn't Saints Row (great game by the way) and that is a good thing. There is still going to be crazy ass shit in this game you can bet your ass on that. It will just be in the realm of reality. Have you even watched any of the trailers? Also, when you are not doing missions, you will be free to do any crazy things your little mind can think of. It just won't be shoved down your throat ala Saint's Row.
@Fragmntagmn edit: read the update, consider me (mostly) reassured Naturally I hope you're right, it's just that I felt that the balance between crazy-ass-shit (eloquently stated) and realism-immersion kinda ruined GTAIV. That said, the Trevor character is a good indication that (even in the campaign) there might be some fun to be had. (Though a trailer of funny/mental action would be reassuring)
Have you watched any of the trailers at all? Read any of the previews? Read this article?
The 3 Character thing is good and bad,because now you wont get to focus all time into one character,now will have to balance it out.But wat does "You won't see anyone doing crazy things for no reason." mean?Because if they refere to you as player then it means they are taking away freedom.
What they are saying is that everything in the campaign is going to have context as to why you are doing it and that it will be plausible, not impossible. This isn't Saints Row (great game by the way) and that is a good thing. There is still going to be crazy ass shit in this game you can bet your ass on that. It will just be in the realm of reality. See my comment above...
I don't like the idea of "won't let you do crazy things for no reason". That's the main point of why I love GTA, I love performing over the top actions. If it is grounded in realism it's not GTA anymore.
I think they meant unrealistic crazy things like swinging dildos around or wear weird costumes. The article said that the some crazy things will be there but a lot of it is included in the plot of the story. I think they are comparing their game to saints row franchise.
"If it is grounded in realism it's not GTA" I disagree. When it comes to story, I thought GTA4 was a masterpiece specifically because it was grounded in realism. This was pure, adult entertainment rivaling some of the best episodes of the Sopranos or the Wire. That's what I loved about GTA4, and one of the reasons this was the first GTA I actually played through to the end after having played all the others. Rest assured, the mayhem you can create in the open world will remain, but there's nothing wrong with creating characters and stories that are down to earth. You want something more goofy, pick up Saint's Row.
GTA 4 was a great game but from personal preference, I skipped most of the story missions cinematics in the game and didn't care about the character at all... it needs more customization to feel like your own... like in san andreas your character was fat or skinny or muscular based on what you did with him... it was more connected. The coming to America to start a new life was a good angle, but not really new or groundbreaking... I think the era approach worked better.. miami vice, hip-hop 90's, I think a 50s Al Capone style GTA would be great.
You see, and I (and I know I'm in the minority here) didn't like a thing about San Andreas. I tried multiple times to get into that game but it just didn't have the plot and characters that I associate with GTA games. The customization seemed like a complete waste of time to me, I wanted story and characters, and I just didn't feel attached to either with SA. It was too generic, like just some mindless, gang stereotype movie montage. The characters and story of GTA4 was why I stuck with the game. But for me, story is one of the main reasons I show up for videogames. I've slogged through some pretty terrible games over the year because I've been hooked by the story or characters.
ya just goes to show how people's preferences work, its all relative.... I can't slog through a bad game because of a character... it needs to be exciting and fun... also thanks for the pm who informed me that Al Capone era is actually the 20's lol...i was only 30 years off. See for me San Andreas was mindblowing because my friends and I had stated after Vice City "wouldn't a 90's hip-hop/gangsta west coast game be sweet" and boom they delivered it. Notwithstanding some loooong travel distances, I had a great time in san andrea
I really like the idea that everything will be plausible. I can't play Saints Row just for the fact that I can't take it seriously.
Totally. I can't take that game seriously - namely because it tries so tirelessly to not be. I get that that's the point, but there is a limit to how tasteless a game should be.
I hear this a lot but I'm not sure where people are getting it from.. you dont have to do the stuff they put in there... I have been playing sr3 lately and I have been doing it fairly seriously, no crazy costumes or weapons, and it doesn't seem that over the top... I think you have to take it there for it to be really twisted...
what exactly do they mean won't let me do crazy things? do they mean putting in a cheat code for a tank or helicopter? When I play open world games I want the freedom to do what I want, when I want..creating an open world and keeping the player from exploring it is terrible.
read the article.
I did..it didn't clear it up.
Christ man it's in the update right at the start, "Update - I've changed the headline to reflect the fact that Benzies' comments about "doing crazy things for no reason" apply to character antics in missions, rather than what's possible in GTA 5's open world. Apologies for any confusion." You've confused the title for the article. Read again.
Nobody said you can't explore it, and to even think otherwise is ridiculous. It simply means you can't do ANYthing you want, ALL the time, likely referring to story missions or specific situations.
And this is why Saints Row is more worthy of the GTA spiritual legacy than GTA itself. At least when we are talking about the last 'GTA' game released.
GTA 4 was no 10/10 game like most sites gave it, in fact I found it disappointing. I am passing on this one and will be interested to see what the next game in the franchise looks like and offers on either the PS4 or XOne. Frankly there is only two games I am looking forwarding to playing on the current hardware. Castlevania Lords of Shadow 2 and Dark Souls 2, I have moved on to next gen. Have both PS4 and XOne launch day versions preordered and ready for the holidays. I have gotten much enjoyment from this gen and was there at the 360 launch day, so 7+ years and I am ready to move on.
GTA IV is over hated. It definitely isn't a 10/10 game but people act like it was horrible or something. I personally would give it an 8.5-9/10. Had some great moments, and for a 2008 game it brought a lot of new experiences to this gen for an open world game. Coming off of San Andreas (the game everyone and their mother played) is the reason GTAIV is shit on so often
You bring up a good point. GTA4 wasn't a bad game at all. They made some good strides in physics, travel (skipping taxi rides is crucial), graphics, and some other elements. And for that I am thankful... but following san anreas was a tall task and you are right it was almost impossible to best.
i read the article im confused about " won't let you "do crazy things for no reason" line. that means i cant on my free time shoot people or something
If you read it again, they were referring to the arsenal of weapons your characters has - they're saying that right from the start there is going to be some plausibility to why you're stocked with guns, and taking names.
Which is a problem for me. The greatest thing in GTA is being able to go on a massive and totally unrealistic killing spree, followed by a police chase, SWAT chase, FBI chase and then a complete army invasion, ending in tank-to-tank battles. Or just have a nice day in the sun on top of a carpark sniping my way to the headshot-hall of fame.
@anticlimax You're still misunderstanding. They aren't saying you won't be able to do those things - they are simply saying that the plot gives reason to why the player would be doing those things. Because the protagonist are wanted criminals. They're trying to say that the actions will fit the characters. As in, criminals doing criminalist things (like you listed) Not, ahem, say the president of the United States skydiving naked, and beating people with dildos. Not that kinda of implausible ridiculousness. All of what you said, imo, fits under the plausibility of being a wanted bank rober - cause it gives reason to why you might be going on killing sprees in the street, and chasing the FBI in tanks. And, also one of the characters is a sociopath - Trevor - so his character will have more than enough justified ridiculousness from his lifestyle. (lol, for example, perhaps skydiving naked, like forementioned)
Gonna hold off on that pre-order then...
I probably won't get into the story from the start. I'm going to go on a suicidal rampage, and take out hundreds of cops. I'm just being honest.
spiderman has spoken.
Everybody gets one
forgot about that reference lol nice one
Clarification: you won't be able to do too many off the wall things during missions(unless the mission asks for it) but it doesn't mean you can't go nuts when just roaming around.
Good thing. I don't want to have all the things in the first half of the game.
"You can meet each character if you know where they are," adds lead designer Imran Sarwar. "For example, if Michael leaves after a mission and you play Trevor, you can go to meet him. You can also force things, if you wish, from one character to another and make them meet. They can then become friends and spend time together. We thought to make the characters appear on the map to be able to follow the day to day in the city, but we chose to focus our efforts on the system of interchangeable characters." http://www.videogamer.com/x... I wonder if I was playing Michael and met Trevor/Franklin somewhere with police after me... would they help me fight them off/escape/escape with me? :D My guess about order of appearance of the characters are: Michael, Trevor then Franklin.
I never beat GTA4, I found the plot too boring and the missions so pointless.
sonic fighters is better
They aren't taking out free roam and what I can do with it so I don't care. I thought GTA IV was a great game and had an amazing story. I spent countless hours on it. "HEY COUSIN, IT'S YOUR COUSIN!! WANT TO GO BOWLING" that was slightly annoying though. I like the gritty realism. It's fun. I can't stand Saints Row. It's just too... Gimmicky. Rockstar knows how to make a Top Seller. I won't be disappointed. It looks amazing.
The very first two things I do in any new Grand Theft Auto game is: 1) Kill somebody 2) Steal someone's car
Mines 1)Steal a car 2)Run down everybody on the sidewalk yeah, we're evil.
wtf why all the jabs at saints row? the sr games r fun and r nothing like the gta games.the 2 r great in their own right.
JUST as long as I can pilot a jet and fly around the city and strafe run traffic, that is all I ask for... that and I want a dog.
I'll be sticking with a game that focuses more on FUN. SAINTS 4 LYFE!!!
Reading Comprehension goes a long way. Saints Row= We will spoon feed you mayhem GTA= Create your own mayhem Pretty much sums it up. All it is saying is that the missions in the game will have some plausibility. It is not going to give you a ten foot dildo to smack people on the street with in the story. You might be able to do that when free roaming though.... Get it now? Is reading really that hard? This country is so F%*&ed if this is the type of people we are raising now...
My favourite GTA is still Vice City and I am hoping that this knocks it off the perch I put it on. GTA 4 was kind of dull to me. The gameplay trailer for this though....jaw dropping.
As long as its got a jet pack and a combine harvester I'm happy as fook. I can't be doing with all that saints row silly stuff, its ok for the kids, gta needs to stick to the real world parody routine that's always served it well. Sometimes less is more.