As if previous titles in the series didn’t prove it enough, Infinity Ward’s upcoming Call of Duty: Ghosts will be quite linear in its approach – or at least it is judging by gameplay footage we’ve seen thus far.
Yup, ofcrouse, they are the fathers of rehash. It takes effort to do something like that and they don't know what that word means. They have amazing marketing compaigns but other than that, it is the same game over and over and over again. AND NO!, making fish move and having a dog is not good enough"
So true lol
It's soooo sad. I cannot believe they haven't really done anything new for COD. Just upgraded one or two things and call it "NEXT-GEN." COD cannot do "open-world" they would have to add additional substance to the game. Meaning BF has been open world because of all the additional elements it brings (tanks, jets, choppers ... etc) to the table. BF4 here I come.
Cod is like a hotdog... How many ways can you serve it up. Catsup and mustard one time... Relish the next. But there is one thing that always comes with it: Pore hit detection and a client side server. You want to surprise us! Designate your servers!
My opinion I don't think people are not looking for game designers to re-invent the wheel but to improve it. example: take any of the more recent cod games and just simply improve the Hit Detection because as it stands now! Cod has the worst hit detection in the industry! The title they stole from cliffy's gears 1 & 2 but not 3. Designated servers rock! It would make my heart ha ha happy if they re-did cod mwf 1 or 2 with more maps and content with Designated servers. Ghost recon made changes to there last title and it sucked. They should of stuck to their original hard core game play!
Not every game has to be open world. You are the very first bunch of people that will be complaining about "open world fatigue" in a couple of years. I see its the trend now to go open world, most of the best games this gen were linear games. Both can co-exist perfectly. I hope Infinty Ward aren't the only ones not to jump on the open world band wagon.
how the hell is open world bad? it gives a game more replay ability and more options on how to tackle a certain objective. that alone makes the game good, add in a great stoy and now you have the best of both worlds.
Open world simply presents more options, that's it. There is no such thing as open world Fatigue, lol. You can do all kind of games in open world for example: First person shooters (ex. far cry 3) Third person(ex. GTA series) Rpg (ex. Witcher 3, Skyrim ) Puzzle (ex. the witness) Simulation (ex. minecraft) Racing(ex. the crew) etc etc etc. More options is better. Honestly, if you want to tackle a game straight on, you do main missions and get on with it but if you want to mess around on the side, then all power to you. This will not only increase their fan base because it will cater to many different players, but I can see them make more money. However, we know they wont do this because when you look at the content they add year over year, they don't spend much to make, and they get heaps in return. That is what a successful business is, spend as less as possible, while making loads of cash. This franchise would need to take a fall before they stop rehashing but we know that it will be a long while yet.
Totally agree. I'm not fond of open world games and also agree that the best games we had were linear (for example: MGS4, Uncharted, Bioshock, Last of US).
SuperLupe-I know, right?! Pretty soon game developers will have us playing linear games with the same engine and rehashed storyline, add a few different maps and remixed old ones. They will even have the nerve to charge a premium for said named map (COUGH of Duty) I like CoD AND Battlefield but the formula is getting old. Just imagine a CoD game with an open world, doing vigilante missions complete with destructible environments. This formula WAS done a few years back and the game was a hit (Mercenaries on PS2) the 2nd one was trash, but it's a step in the right direction. Seriously-if I have to play anymore as David Mason in a linear world, I'm gonna get PTSD myself.
no. just... no.
I know all of you hate CoD and everything but uhhh....I have to agree, at E3 there were quite a few open world games, and when it comes down to it, it's hard to play multiple open world games back to back, I noticed one of you said something a long the lines of "Just play the main storyline" well...as a GAMER that's a little hard to do, you always wanna play as much of the game as possible, also one of you said "there is no such thing as open world fatigue", that's a lie, there is, can you imagine playing 40+ hours in an open world game for EVERY game, its too much, I personally like a linear game, the story is usually better put together in those cases, and a lot more cinematic for that matter, I was actually quite displeased with all the open world games that have been shown, the only ones im really interested in are "The Division" and "Destiny", the new MGS looks good, but I can't imagine playing all these games around the same time, not to mention you don't need an open world game to get more from a game, the perfect example is MGS4, that game was super long but linear, and there was a lot of content there, same goes for The Last of Us, took me 12 hours to beat on my first playthrough, and thats a linear game, I personally would not be happy with pretty much every game being open world because it would indeed cause fatigue.
Agreed In theory and from Adverts open world games seem more fun but then when you get into it its get old real fast... open world games are big for the sake of being big with nothing interesting between points and even if there is there can only be so much and then it will get the same events over and over and will just be a grind
open world is one of the worst things that can happen to storytelling.. it can be done properly like in GTA or Fallout .. and oblivion like others.. but this games are quite particular and wont always be the case...
I agree @ super. I dont think open world is good for all games infact I prefer linear games for most genres including shooters. It is not easy to tie story in especially shooters when you have an open world game everything needs to be accounted for its harder to transition the story especially if your going from 1 geographical area to the next which most shooters do. I am not defending COD but I think to demand they should be doing open world is kinda foolish since I think they did a great job for their campaigns. Their multiplayer is what I have grown a problem with. Leave open world to the studios that excel at it the best and leave the linear gameplay to the companies that are good at it. I like both and I dont want to see either dominate in games where only 1 type is now being made. Couldnt imagine how different UC,GoW or various other games would be. I like sometimes the endless action and the game driving the story sometimes.
"how the hell is open world bad?" I've read Superlupe's comment 5 times. No where does it say or suggest that "open world is bad" People are going to blindly disagree with him because he agreed with an idea presented by the game community's perceived Satan - anyone related to COD - but it's true; Not everything has to be open world.
The issue with the franchise is stagnation, they need to introduce a new game mechanic that makes the game more valuable. *edit* They don't necessarily need to introduce a full open-world, but they need to at least make an attempt to create a new experience... and this article illustrated how steadfast they are against change. Playing a game on varying difficulties isn't a reason for many people to play a game again. They won't change their approach to this open world idea because they know their strength is in linear maps, with cinematic set pieces... they cannot compete or come close to replicating what Dice has done with Battlefield. An open world Call of Duty would draw a substantial amount of interest from those of us who ignore the yearly installments. Infinity Ward is great with characters, and implementing an open world would allow them to convey them to us while giving them an opportunity to show us how good they are at multi-level story telling. I don't think they are talented enough to do it, they haven't done anything exciting since the original Modern Warfare. But hey, here's to Titan Fall =)
Its funny killzone on 4 and nobody complaining about them rehashing the same thing
yeah alot of people is jumping on the bandwagon. its especially funny seeing how a lot of people use to criticize a lot of sony 1st party game because they were linear and not open world. but we all know Infinity Ward are using this as a escape goat activision pump so much rehash they should be a recycling company. i wonder if want to make a open world game of any other type of game for that matter
I don't care about most changes. Just get the hit detection fixed. If gears of war can do it then so can you greedy pigs.
if you don't think that they work hard on these games then you are the person who doesn't know what hard work means -_- game development is hard and takes a ****load of effort, PERIOD
Don't you dare saying they work hard, I see game developers busting theire ass off, remaking game engines in 1 to 2 years and overhauling and improving games in such way that is beyond recognition. No sir, you do not have the right to say this campaign marketering champions bust their ass off to make a decent game, they are lazy as fuck, game developing is hard, but I don't see game developers that work the same time and with much much much better results complaining or adding dogs or fish technology that has been around since Mario 64...
You're so bad at trolling, give it a rest. Mika hasn't taught you well. 2/10 and that's being generous.
Do you even play other games besides cod? Because if you do,you should have noticed by now the abismal diference in quality between other companys that really try to make good games,dev´s like CD Project Red,R*,Naughty Dogs,Dice,Guerrila,Quantic Dream,Bungie,Ubisoft,etc..etc. .. Dev´s that give all they have,in man power,know how,and most importat love for the trade. Cod was awesome,Cod was king back when they where led by people that had this kind of sense and love for the game and now that they are gonne all you have is a reash of a greedy corp of a game.open your eyes,play something else and enjoy a lot more games,real games. I´m only sorry that Bungie also responds to Activision let´s hope Destany prevail in the next years.
Regardless of the quality of other games, (saying that CoD isn't high quality is definitely denial, it may not be innovative or mind blowing but the quality is definitely high), people who say "oh these game developers are so lazy" are idiots, let me enlighten you people from an animation, game design ,and film major [email protected] NO game company creates a completely new engine in two years that wasn't already being worked on before, and just because the cod developers don't work AS HARD, as other developers, does not mean that they don't work hard, making games, especially triple A games is not in any way shape or form easy no matter how many shortcuts you take [email protected], oh i'm sorry, I forgot that calling idiots out on being uniformed keyboard warriors who have never met a game developer, been to a game development studio, and haven't even taken a class on the subject matter but make assumptions about the amount of work it takes and have the audacity to call triple A studios who are more talented then they will ever be, makes me a troll [email protected], I have not bought a CoD game in the past three years, just because I don't like the series doesn't mean that i'm immature enough to say that they don't work hard to deliver them to us, when each person at that studio has done a ****load more work than I or ANY OF YOU have ever done in your life
Game development is difficult... unless, -You recycle the Game Engine -Employ the same Plot Structure -Re-skin maps They need minimal level designers, developers, programmers, or writers... they re-shade the game and introduce gimmicks.
it looks like alot of next-gen games are going open world i think cod just cant pull it off
CoD will never work in open world settings, not everything has to be open world, gta is my fav but open world settiung would ruin some games like if gta turned linear it doesn't always work if u want to innovate cod, let there be multuple mission routs, let or right, underwater or above it, airplane, tank, on foot etc...
doenst need to... would ruin the franchise by making it open world... game doesnt fit that style of play
Well when ur making games for shot talking 14 year old males, you really dont have to do much to impress them.
Open world would require more work. And clearly Activision's studios do not like to work.
“We Don’t Want To Go Into The Open-World Idea” yeah to much work for them. lol
I bet they are just using that excuse because they are being lazy for now and just trying to get those Cross gen sales. I bet once the PS4 and Xbox One sales get in the million and they sell more on those platforms they will change there tune and act like Open World is the next big thing when everybody else have already been doing more open games.
the stupidity of COD fans is mindblowing.
Because they wouldn't be able to do it even if they tried Too much hard work for them
Why do you think Activision hired Bungie lol?
So much words to say that they never intended to venture into new horizons and brnig a fresh approach to the series. Too much money is at stake, I guess.
This statement is as obvious as saying GTA is never going to go linear world.. People shouldnt have been even asking this question :L and people shouldnt be surprised when they said they wouldnt as it makes absoloutely no sense to change a series for no reason and would possibly ruin it
making an open world it's too much work for them, especially when they sell 20 millions every year with rehashes.
Hell, they don't even want't to make a new engine or license one for next-gen.
For all those who are dissagreeing with you, they need to read this: http://n4g.com/news/1263886... Uses the same old quake engine from almost 8 years ago. The current Infinity Ward is made up of some of the most talentless people imaginable in the industry. Just look at that trash called MW3.
they are too lazy to make their game open world
Yeah same as Naughty Dog, Quantic Dream, 343, Dice, Insomniac, Guerrilla etc. Devs who make linear games are so lazy!!
All of the devs you mentioned are way better at what they do then infintyward and treyarch will ever be.And conuntless other devs wipe the floor with them aswell.But when you have Activisons marketing muscle i guess you can sell rehashed turds every year.
@spitfire I'm not saying IW are better than any of the developers that I mentioned. I'm saying that not making a game open world is not a valid reason to call any developer lazy. what need is there to make CoD open world? I've never heard anyone say "CoD is good, but it needs to be open world". by the way I don't personally play CoD but I get really sick of people hating on it for reasons that apply to the majority of other AAA games. Assassins Creed, Batman, God of War, I could go on and on but you already know the truth. how much do sequels really change? people seem to think that the entire game needs to be overhauled but it doesn't. millions of people buy it and enjoy it so there is clearly something about it that's working
I wouldn't even try that argument on here, clatez. People on here just don't get it. They're too hardcore for cod lol.
@splitfireace85 nope IW is as good as the company he mentioned, most of those companies copied CoD4's innovation features and cinematic style. FACT how many "all ghillied up" like missions we seen in the whole industry since CoD4 these hater are mad cod is outselling tier soul mate games
Not enough fish in the sea? :P
They dont like to give their playerbase the freedom they want
So more of the same old same o. More liner playing.
Giving people more of what they love and spend countless hours playing is a bad right, correct?
Nope, it also awares others nothing new is coming so they don't waste their money. But yeah, play what you like always! :)
You guys are so fucking stupid. Not every game needs to be open world - or they arent good enough. Linear games are still the best. HalfLife 1/2 Bioshock1 Uncharted2 ... Linear means focused. Open world are for casual games and to just goof around, which generally makes them funner... Not "better." You dont want to just make Heavy Rain OPEN WORLD!!! Or how bout Starcraft3 OPEN WORLD!!
You say that as though Call of Duty games have featured really awesome, immersive, innovative single player campaigns - get off your high horse.
I'll NEVER forget the first time I played the cod4 campaign...so yeah :/
They have one of the best campaigns for a FPS there just not long enough :L very well done and some very good cinematic moments in them
"open world are for casual games".... are you serious?
Hey sc2 online and dark souls just werent hard enough for me let me try a real hardcore game ... grand theft auto. Give me a break.
have you ever heard of s.t.a.l.k.e.r or even dayz? jesus not every openworld is GTA.
Because we can't.
I actually think Call of Duty should keep doing what they are doing, especially since open world games are becoming more common with games like Battlefield, GTA, Watchdogs, The Division, Borderlands, Mad Max, Skyrim, Mass Effect and on and on and on... Its funny that I'm now of the opinion that Call of Duty gives the gaming industry more diversity just by staying the way it has been for so long. I feel that if people don't like Call of Duty games, then they just shouldn't buy them. I've skipped the last couple of CoD games since I was burned out on the series, but I might pick up CoD: Ghosts for my small map FPS fix. I've been playing BF3 lately, and while I like the game, it's nowhere near as balanced as the Call of Duty games. If the opposing team has some pilots that are really good at flying helicopters and fighter jets, and your team doesn't, its game over as the anti-aircraft guns are useless and even if you fire heat seeking missiles at the aircraft, the counter-measures will nullify the attack every single time, which can make Battlefield very frustrating to play. Because of this, I actually prefer the CQ maps in BF3 because at least it's a level playing field.
I agree. Maybe the CoD devs are lazy but I honestly dont need open world in every game. I like games like uncharted which is very linear. Why would I even need an open world for a simple shooter? I would prefer the concept of bioshock or last of us which is linear but still offers a lot to explore. I havent bought a COD for the last 3 years but I dont get the hate. I guess people will always find something to complain about. If you dont like it just dont buy it, there are plenty of other great games.
I agree, I bought a CoD a few years back, played it to death for six months, loved it (I think it was Modern Warfare II). After a while I moved on and haven't bought another CoD since. I don't have a problem with it or those who choose to play it. I know some people are a bit obsessive about it, but the multiplayer game can be a lot of fun in the right modes (I always played Hardcore modes with one life per level). I personally like variety in my choice of games, but if people want an updated version of the game they've got used to, so what, it does me no harm.
^ +bubs for some actual maturity.
Battlefield isnt openworld, it has big open-ended maps. that doesnt mean its openworld.
I like that battlefiepd series because it provides giant maps wil vehicle and longe range combat but at the same time is close quarters tight combat as well. Variety.
Bf isn't open world and what you've essentially said is bf is more unbalanced than cod because if one team has good players that team wins which isn't balance issues it's just individual and team skill whereas cod has true balaice issues with killstreaks lag compensation and laser accurate guns
FACT> "We just CAN'T do open world with our ancient engine. Then again, we CAN'T even seem to make an innovative linear game either. So we'll do the SAME OLD SHIT because there are MILLIONS of simpleton morons who will line up to buy our boring training-wheels twitch rehash." When will it be the end of the CoD series? Please please please let this be the last one, oh please do stop copy-pasting CoD, PLEASE.........please.