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Mark Cerny Reveals that Destiny has 700 Devs Working on it, Probably the One Mentioned by CliffyB

PS4 Lead Architect Mark Cerny thinks that the PS4 will be accessible to development teams of every size and scope, from the smallest to the biggest, but what’s his example for a really enormous one? That would be the team working on Destiny at Bungie, marking as the probable title that "neeeds to sell 10 million copies to break even" mentioned by CliffyB

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JoelT3939d ago

If accurate, that's literally 3 times the amount of a normal game. Also, it should be noted that Destiny is also a current gen game, right? So it could be multiple teams on multiple platforms.

JoGam3939d ago

Cant wait for this game. Is there a release date yet? Or time frame?

Abriael3939d ago

"2014" is all they said.

mewhy323939d ago

This game will be epic. Hopefully they'll take full advantage of the power of the PS4 and not program for the lowest common denominator. I can't wait for this to release.

Benchm4rk3939d ago

@mewhy32

It already is. You can't seriously expect a game that is being released on current gen as well as next gen to use the full power of either the ps4 or One. It will take a while before any game uses those machine to there full potential.

justastranger103939d ago

Destiny plays too much like Halo. Why play a carbon clone when I can get the real thing. :)

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NewMonday3939d ago

with this much working on it I bet it will have lots of DLC and micro transactions like MMO's

Muffins12233939d ago

Its more for next gen but it can run on previous gen

3-4-53939d ago

teams of 200-300 are considered big/large teams.

It's not a bad thing really. If they don't make money and don't sell 10 million, at least they gave us a great game. Yea we won't get another like it anytime soon if this fails, but at least we got the initial game and sometimes that is better than getting an ok game that made a good profit for a company.

A different way to look at it I guess.

devwan3939d ago

Bungie's deal with Activision is for 4 games over 10 years. Making an unprecedented new IP on such a scale, they don't have to make all those initial costs back with the first title - much of the costs should be offset over the 4 titles and 10 years of the deal.

LAWSON723939d ago

Bungies deal are you talking about the that said ms platforms get the games a year earlier.

devwan3938d ago

@LAWSON72

You can read the important parts of the deal here in the context of Destiny and more recent developments:

http://www.joystiq.com/2013...

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Belking3939d ago

They should get 10 million. It will probably do about 6 million on xb360 and xb1.

InTheLab3939d ago

Don't know why people disagreed. Bungie is a legendary dev for Xbox. Why wouldn't the already large fanbase of Halo not check out Destiny?

Between X1 and 360, I can easily see them grabbing 6 million in sales. Surely they'll do at least as well as Titanfall, which is inexplicably being predicted as a CoD like franchise...

KillrateOmega3939d ago (Edited 3939d ago )

"Don't know why people disagreed. Bungie is a legendary dev for Xbox. Why wouldn't the already large fanbase of Halo not check out Destiny?"

Because Destiny was demoed at the Sony's E3 conference? Because more people recognize the name 'Halo' than they do the name 'Bungie'?

InTheLab3939d ago

So you're saying more people will buy the game on ps4 than xbox? Does that same logic apply to MGS5?

And you're kidding yourself about the Halo being bigger than it's creators. Everytime you load Halo, Bungie splashes across the screen. I'd be shocked if any Halo player doesn't recognize who Bungie is.

TronEOL3939d ago

@ your comment i can't reply to:
What you don't understand tho, is Metal Gear Solid was known as a Playstation game (even tho only 1 of the games were truly exclusive), where as HALO is known as an Xbox game.

Destiny, on the other hand, has no allegiance besides it being massively pushed by Sony. The only people who will know the makers of Halo are making it is the folks who follow all things Bungie.

Still, I do agree that between Xbox1 and 360, it'll probably sell around 5 million copies, at least. But I don't doubt it'll get around the same amount on PS3/4 given all the news of Xbox fans jumping ship. That and a lot of Halo fans aren't too stoked on what 343 is doing, so why not follow Bungie to their new masterpiece?

Kryptix3939d ago (Edited 3939d ago )

@Belking
I thought getting answers from your magic 8 ball combined with your birthday wish almost never works. lol Hope Destiny gets all the support they deserve. It's going to be amazing and I know Bungie are great developers. Definitely going to be a jaw dropping game once we're able to enter and see the rich world for the first time.

@InTheLab
It was shown at Sony's E3 and all the gameplay videos Bungie releases on their YouTube channel is showing PS4 gameplay. I think there won't be much of a sales difference. Depends on what other games are releasing around Destiny's release date.

Belking3939d ago (Edited 3939d ago )

Doesn't mean anything dude. The majority of Bungies fanbase still is on xbox. They showed the game at sony's conference to widen it's fanbase. Why do you think MGS was at MS conference? It's because they already have a large fanbase on Playstation. You fanboys need to learn something before you start bumping your gums.

Kryptix3939d ago

By your logic, Oblivion sold more on the PS3 because a Skyrim preview was at Microsoft's E3? Yea right, not close...the reason why Bungie was at Sony's E3 is because Bungie had the exclusive content to announce. Just like Call of Duty before and now Battlefield had timed DLC to announce at Microsoft's E3. Why was Splinter Cell: Blacklist shown at 2012 Microsoft's E3 when they already have the fans that played Conviction? PS3 players haven't gotten a fresh SC game since Double Agent in 2007. And what about Kingdom Hearts 3 being shown at Sony's E3 when Xbox never had a KH game. Don't they want to widen the audience? I just showed you many examples how that's mostly not the case. Activision which have published Destiny has sided with Sony now. While EA is favoring Microsoft, Titanfall/Battlefield timed DLC. Activision are that ones that decide how to market the games they publish and they chose and planned Destiny to be at Sony's E3. Just gave you more to think about, come back when you got something less delusional to say. :)

HammadTheBeast3939d ago

Actually it's been proven over and over that Xbox gamers don't like any games other than CoD, Gears, Halo, or Forza.

Bungie isn't the main thing, it's Halo which rings with the Xbox crowd. And with the anticipated sales for PS4/Xbox One, I doubt it'll sell all too much on the One, especially since PS4 is getting exclusive content,

Belking3939d ago

"Actually it's been proven over and over that Xbox gamers don't like any games other than CoD, Gears, Halo, or Forza."

lol based on what? if you are gonna use that logic then ps gamers don't care about anything but naughty dog games....lol Either way you look at the situation xbox gamers are the winners because they still get bungie games plus they still get Halo one's too. That's a win-win right there. The One baby!

HammadTheBeast3939d ago

Ok. Given the deterioration of the quality of Halo games, you have fun.

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MooseWI3939d ago

I hope they reach their target. I would love a game supported for so long, by free content that is and not paid DLC for 10 years.

ramtah3939d ago

I know i will buy it for my ps3 and ps4!!

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New Shark Tank Inspired Wolves’ Den Game Contest With Spatial, Youtube, and Gaming Legends

Rapper/Actor Ice-T, and YouTube, Gaming Legends, Cliff Bleszinski, Welyn, And Barji To Judge First ‘Wolves Den’ Game Jam Series On Spatial Platform

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N4GTG45d ago

This could be great for some indie developers

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Gears of War Creator CliffyB Offers His Thoughts on Xbox Exclusives Going Multiplatform

During a recent Game Rant interview, Gears of War creator CliffyB comments on Xbox-exclusive games possibly adopting multiplatform models.

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S2Killinit46d ago

Im sure he would love it. More money for him.

OtterX46d ago

Yea, I remember seeing him and his Lamborghini at one point in history. Lol, I think that kind of gives it away.

rippermcrip46d ago

Doubtful he gets any residuals from anything Gears related.

rippermcrip45d ago

Bunch of clowns down voting without any explanation of how exactly he is getting money off Gears. You think Notch still gets Minecraft money too?

jznrpg45d ago (Edited 45d ago )

Depends on the contract. Some contracts have residuals some don’t

Whitey2k46d ago

Sometimes I don't get what he says half the times. He could of put gears on the playstation from the start but he's fanboyness for xbox got in the way

Notellin46d ago

I imagine this is exactly how fanboys feel how this went down. Microsoft paid for all the development and took all the risk off Epic games for a new IP.

It has nothing to do with anyone being a fanboy. Well other than yourself who oversimplified this entire franchises history.

LoveSpuds46d ago

I agree Notellin, however, once he was in bed with MS he did become pretty 'anti Sony' ans was such a shill for MS.

Hofstaderman46d ago

This. And Sony also does this with titles these days.

shinoff218345d ago

I thought it was said cliffs shopped it around hence rumors of a ps3 demo being out there. If ms took on all the cost, why is there a ps3 demo?

Rude-ro45d ago

Not true at all.
Microsoft had to buy the ip because the contract ran out on keeping it exclusive.
Microsoft took no risk, they just marketed the game and payed for a contract.
Not hard to find out.

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Ironmike46d ago (Edited 46d ago )

Your the the fanboy

Sciurus_vulgaris46d ago

No, Epic signed a development and publishing contract with Xbox for Gears of War. After Judgement Microsoft still had the Gears of War publishing rights. Epic then sold the Gears of War IP to Microsoft in 2014. Cliffy B never owned Gears of War, he was just a lead designer of the series.

rippermcrip46d ago

Ya I don't know what people are saying about CliffyB making money of Gears sales nowadays. He was never the owner and Epic no longer owns it either.

ChasterMies46d ago

“He could of put gears on the playstation from the start but he's fanboyness for xbox got in the way”

It has nothing to do with fondness for the Xbox platform. Microsoft paid for exclusivity.

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Travesty46d ago (Edited 46d ago )

Well when you look at the sales perspective of ps5. It has a big audience selling over a 2 to 1 ratio. It makes money sense.
Fanboy era was at its prime during the ps3-360 generation. It’s not as toxic as it once was, thankfully. People grow out of it eventually. I have my preference just as the next person. That being said it’s coming to be more about expanding availability instead of standing behind a brand. Much more Microsoft than Sony. But Sony will probably move up its time of PC release for increase revenue.
We will see, it’s just speculation.

Psychonaut8546d ago

CliffyB is like David Jaffe at this point, always quick with the opinions but haven’t made a successful game in over a decade at this point. Do any of us really care what they think about anything? I certainly don’t.

shinoff218345d ago

I never liked the guy tbh but he's got more relevance in gaming then we do.

Skuletor45d ago

CliffyB, I haven't heard that name since Lawbreakers flopped.

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Sorry, CliffyB, But "Gears of War" Doesn’t Need A "God of War"- Style Reboot

Shaz from GL writes: “In an interview, Cliff Bleszinski says that he’d be interested in helping develop a Gears of War reboot akin to God of War. Unnecessary? I think so.”

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Jin_Sakai172d ago

Regardless, Gears of War gameplay feels outdated this day and age.

spicelicka170d ago

I completely disagree. Outdated in what way? There is literally no other cover based TPS multiplayer game like it and the core gameplay is so good that people still play Gears 1 today. I can't think of any games that has shotgun battles like Gears. The real issue is that there is simply no new audience for it, because the learning curve is so steep. It just needs to market itself better and the work needs to be done on the campaign side. Better to just split up the single player and multiplayer as two different projects and releases.

Also, this who "reboot" discussion isn't considering the fact that God of war doesn't have multiplayer as a significant portion of the game. Single player only games have a lot more freedom to change. With Gears you have to consider that there's an entire community still playing every day, so you can't just change the core gameplay balance. On top of that they can't dedicate as many resources to single player as God of war, because the budget has to be split with multiplayer.

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Gamingsince1981169d ago

There is no other one like it because there is no demand for that style of game, kinda obvious really. If there was an interest in gears style games the market would be flooded with them.

lucian229169d ago

Gears of War 1 and 2 were bad combat wise.... Story wise too. I beat both of them because of the hype and gave up after that.

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GamerRN169d ago

I agree. It needs done kind of overhaul, but I don't think a God of War style would suit this game.

I gotta be honest I don't know what it needs, but it needs something ... And 5 wasn't it

terrorofdeath169d ago

Maybe it's a reboot more in the sense of a more emotional storyline or something like God of War, and some small tweaks in terms of gameplay.

anast170d ago

They don't have the talent to do a GoW style reboot.

DOMination-170d ago

Do you have a genuine reason to come to that conclusion, other than it not being a PlayStation studio?

The Coalition probably have the best and most knowledge team on Unreal Engine 5 outside of Epic. I'd have thought if anyone "had the talent", it would be them.

Rude-ro170d ago

Because they did not do a fantastic job when they took over the ip.

In fact, the majority of ips under Microsoft shows complete signs of cheap development with bigger marketing budgets.

More make up on dated engines can work… but can not be mistaken for innovative.
No innovation equals no ability to push a franchise into anything new.
Take the “open world” introduction in the last gears…
Empty vast traveling areas to get to pre determined “random” encounter areas is a cheap developing approach.. not innovation to build any trust into.

kneon169d ago

Even if they were the best in the world at UE5 that would only mean that they might make a great looking game. It takes a lot more than that to make a great game.

anast169d ago

"Do you have a genuine reason to come to that conclusion, other than it not being a PlayStation studio?"

History and current output.

jznrpg104d ago

Look at the last 10 years and you have plenty of evidence

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rgraf77169d ago

God of War is overrated. Those boring boat rides talking and backtracking.

GamingManiac169d ago

Bruh, that made me laugh lol

anast169d ago

I'm not big on the game, but it isn't overrated.

Inverno170d ago

A reimagining that continues the lore, and story of established characters is absolutely a great way to continue a series that needs a refresh. I agree that any long standing franchise that has run it's course definitely needs a "God of War" style reboot, because GOW did it right. I might have my issues with the last two games but they did right by the series regardless.

Ra3030170d ago

There's no helping Gears of Woke. Microsoft killed this franchise when they forced the woke culture into the story.

itBourne170d ago

God of War did the same, just in a more subtle sly way.... They could of probably made a few cuts and bam, PG rated movie right there. God of Rainbows and Daisies.

itBourne170d ago

Dang, so many dislikes lol, willing to elaborate, just didnt want to throw out a bunch of spoilers. If anyone wants to discuss as to why, im always open to discussions. Just shoot me a DM.

343_Guilty_Spark170d ago (Edited 170d ago )

How is it woke? Because the lead is a female?

Is Horizon woke also?

CantThinkOfAUsername169d ago

It is, but not due to the gender of its protagonist.

zeuanimals170d ago

There's no helping you. Anti-woke culture killed your brain when they force fed you the idea that diversity is the worst thing ever.

Ra3030170d ago

Lol....good to see that you agree as do I with the fact Microsoft went woke as Disney with the Gear franchise. Microsoft tried to save the franchise by taking the formula that was working with the strong Bro leads and going to the woke weakass female formula that no one cared about.

Binarycode169d ago

Diversity isn't a strength. Look at the world. That's the reason it's in the state it is.

Gamingsince1981169d ago

Forced diversity is the reason people don't like diversity, you should just hire who is best for what, not have to tick boxes first then worry about talent next.

zeuanimals169d ago (Edited 169d ago )

@ra3030

Every company has gone woke, even successful ones. Those don't fit your narrative though. Yeah no, the only two things Microsoft and Disney have in common is that they're woke /s

Totally not that they're risk averse companies that don't wanna innovate in fear of it being a waste of time. They've got bottomless pockets and limited time. So they spend their time trying to crack codes, find patterns, create money making templates out of whatever property they're working on. It needs to be as mass produceable as possible. Disney and Microsoft, bringing sweat shop factory made quality to gaming storefronts and theaters near you.

zeuanimals169d ago

@binary

Right because the world was so much better segregated... and there's a million other reasons I'd put ahead of diversity as to why the world is the way it is, but way to show how much diversity is on your brain by how dangerous you think it is. It's literally the cause of everything to you.

@gaming

Actually forced diversity is the only reason people like diversity. If you don't force people to do it, they won't do it. The only people who end up liking it due to having met new people with different perspectives only ever got to because they were kind of forced to. That's literally part of the reason diversity is being advocated for, because it promotes innovation. Having dozens of people with too similar of viewpoints can lead them to being too likeminded and unable to think of different solutions, or even different problems that weren't even recognized. There's more than one way to be a useful hire, and having a genuinely unique perspective is one of them.

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Crows90170d ago

I thought they were doing a soft reboot with gears4 but then it turned out to be the exact same as all the others.

A more horror oriented and tight corridor renewal would work for that franchise....also...why they got guns? They're alien like...they should have other types of weapons entirely.

OMNlPOTENT170d ago

dang why do most of the different species in god of war use swords, axes, and bows? They should have other types of weapons entirely.

Crows90169d ago (Edited 169d ago )

They don't... Okay you obviously haven't played god of war. What a way of owning yourself man! Lol

The draugr are pretty much the only ones...and besides we're comparing established mythology with made up bug aliens

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