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Submitted by nabgil 365d ago | interview

Mark Cerny: "they know how to design PS4 so it won't overheat"

GR-UK writes: Gamereactor Spain caught up with Mark Cerny shortly after he delivered his Road to PS4 presentation at this year's Gamelab in Barcelona.

As part of a longer GRTV interview, we asked Cerny how the PlayStation 4 would cope with the intense summer heat that Spain's currently sweltering under.

"I think it will be fine," he replied. "They know how to design the console so it doesn't overheat. If you notice that PlayStation 4 is smaller, it's because power consumption is less; simple as that." (Mark Cerny, PS4)

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Cam977   365d ago | Offensive
first1NFANTRY  +   365d ago | Well said
amazing team over at Sony. You can tell they really know how to design hardware with their history of expertise.

the fact ps4 doesn't even have a power brick while being so small is ingenious.
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Animal Mutha 76  +   365d ago
Yeah apart from the localization reason that MS tout for the xbox I don't know why they cant get all the transformer into the box ala PS3. The xbox brick even on the newer slims is still far too big.
RavageX  +   365d ago
I assume it adds to heating and they'd rather keep it outside of the system than in.

That's just a guess though.
IcicleTrepan  +   365d ago | Well said
It is a more modular design as well. Power supplies do tend to fail, especially if not protected behind a surge suppressor. If your Xbox power supply fails, you can get a new one without sending your whole machine in. Also there are third parties selling power supplies for Xbox so you can always replace it if it fails and are waiting for a replacement. Playstation design, while more elegant, offers the downside that if the power supply fails, you have to send the entire unit for repair.
dennett316  +   365d ago
There's no room in their case thanks to the ENORMOUS fan they've put directly above the CPU/GPU. They also keep the PSU outside to reduce heat...basically, they're taking no chances on another RROD situation. Also, they're just not quite as elegant when it comes to design as Sony or even Nintendo.
darthv72  +   365d ago
power supply, internal or external doesn't matter to me. Im just glad we have moved past the days of the wall wort style (think nes, snes, genesis...2600) those big blocks that you cant fit on a power strip because it blocks another outlet on one side or the other.

As to the failure of a power supply, yeah it sucks when that happens. The PS went out on my PS1 and it was easy to get inside and replace but of course if i open the system i void the warranty (at least back then).

The argument of internal vs external is just as petty as replaceable batteries vs rechargeable ones. Its moot because if the batteries go dead in either case you still need to plug in or replace and that takes what...10 seconds at most?

Not to mention that in either case, if your controller loses connection the game pauses instantly (at least on the 360 it does).
fr0sty  +   365d ago
icicle, power supplies do fail, however in many cases the failure doesn't just stop there. I've seen PSUs take entire systems with them when they died.

Also, PS3's PSU is about the easiest part to self-replace other than the HDD, though I do agree that just being able to buy a new one is more convenient than having to repair your system.
Utalkin2me  +   365d ago
@dennett316

The 360 had/has power supply on outside, how did that work for them?

@IcicleTrepan

Power supplies do not tend to fail. I have had 2 power supplies to go bad in 2 decades, one was a original xbox and the other was in my PC.
MWong  +   365d ago
I was hoping XBone didn't come out with another power brick, oh well. At least my PS4 will be small and sleek looking. I gotta buy a side stand too.
ShinMaster  +   365d ago
There's a reason why Microsoft is primarily a software company, not a hardware one.
It's not their strength.
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GrandTheftZamboni  +   365d ago
@IcicleTrepan

Sure, make the design so modular so all components CPU, GPU, memory are outside and easy to replace when one fails.

BTW, if the power brick fails, the main box won't be usable until MS ships a new one.
SkyGamer  +   365d ago
Laptop specs people. Mobile components. Of course it uses less wattage than desktop counterparts.
rainslacker  +   365d ago
In my time, I've repaired over 300 PlayStation systems, along with various other systems with internal power supplies, when I did that stuff for a side job, and never once has a repair been for a power supply. Anything power related was always a fuse on the motherboard due to internal design of other parts drawing too much current. A fuse is exponentially more difficult to replace than a power supply.

Yes they can go bad, but it's exceedingly rare. More often than not, if they are damaged it's by surges, and in that case it wouldn't matter if it were internal or external as the damage would be done on the internal motherboard components at the same time. External power supplies aren't some magical surge protection device.

Otherwise, I find the power brick argument silly. Consoles cords typically sit behind a Tv, and they are rarely just laying out on the floor like many people claim to be some sort of eyesore. Hardly something worth basing a purchasing decision on. At most it's interesting to see how well a system is designed.
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Persistantthug  +   365d ago
I still have my 80GB PS3...so if I bought a PS4, I'd be very confident with it.
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Buljo  +   365d ago
Hmm, I had two 60GB PS3s. Both got the YLOD. I plan on getting the PS4, but I will be sorely disappointed if anything similar happens out of warranty.
Utalkin2me  +   365d ago
Still on my original phat 40 gig PS3. I did upgrade the HDD though.
starchild  +   365d ago
My 80gb PS3 shows graphical artifacts in most games. The GPU is bad. This happened only after about 2 years of owning it.

My PS3 and Xbox 360 both had hardware failures, while my PC has never had a hardware problem at all and I use it the most.

This makes me a little reluctant to get a console at launch. But I'll probably cave and get a PS4 anyway.
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lento  +   365d ago
Launch 60 with a upgraded 500 gig hard drive still working like a charm.
LonDonE  +   364d ago
Exactly i have a launch fatty PS3 which i gave away to my little brother and it still works flawlessly, and so does my 80gb fatty and slim 160 gb, PS3 is a great console and is infinitely more reliable then a xbox 360, hell i had 7 xbox 360's due to red ring of death, i had all the models too, it didn't make a difference, a bad and flawed design is always a bad and flawed design, it shocked me how bad Microsoft treated their consumers, after owning the arcade model,the premium, the elite, the slim, and in some cases multiples on said version, still all failed on me, and its not because i didn't take care of them, i am a core gamer and so game for long periods at a time, and the simple truth is the console was designed like shit!!! i take better care of my gaming stuff then, my own 2 kids, LOL

And what made me more angry was that most companies after you send them a faulty piece of hardware send you a replacement which has said flaw rectified, Microsoft did not do this, instead they were giving refurbished still flawed faulty consoles back to its customers, this is why i will not be buying a xbox 1 NEVER!! in my opinion, the red ring of death factor, and the forced atrocious policies, which they didn't change due to gamers outcry, they only reversed them when they saw pre order sales were terrible compared to PS4, and the mandatory spy camera, these are why i would never buy a xbox1!

I did love my 360, but it was so flawed, and ms did nothing to rectify the problem,until years later with the slim, which also had problems like the red dot of death, and with that they can get screwed!!! my Sony and nintendo consoles have never failed on me!
I still own all my Sony and nintendo consoles from the past, for each gone generation, and all work flawlessly, just like my Sinclair spectrum, and my Sega consoles, even the o.g xbox of mine is working as is my o.g soft modded crystal xbox, but the 360 is another story all together!!

I am not worried at all for the reliability of the PS4, i know Sony build great products, i always buy Sony, my Sony bravia hdtv, my Sony Ericsson phone, my Sony xperia smart phone,my Sony surround sound hifi stack system,my Sony lap top, EVERYTHING, and all are great pieces of tech,i got the Sony bug from my parents, who also always bought Sony tech!! they are a great tech company, PERIOD!!!

Its xbox1 customers who should be cautious of buying the xbox1 at launch my advice would be to everybody pay that bit extra and get the extended warranty, its well worth it!
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showtimefolks  +   365d ago
i love the design of ps4 also xbox one is very nice design

what i really like about ps4's design is, its small and has bunch of fans so no over heating hopefully

mark cerny better start working on ps5 lol
Auron  +   365d ago
power brick helps keep extra heat out.
Gameratheart  +   365d ago
Yes, they know how to design systems... The ps1 failed constantly(flip it upside down to play it), the ps2 failed constantly (disc read errors caused by poorly designed lasers), Sony lost a class action lawsuit over the ps2... But yeah! Sony are the greatest designers! Even the ps3, ylod, wasn't perfect. I have the ps4 pre saved and paid in full, I just hope it doesn't fail on me.... Like ps1-2-3 did. This is Sony's last chance with me.... Yes the 360 was a POS, but it never cost me a dime when it failed.... So don't crown Sony yet.... Nintendo has the lowest failure rate, you can look it up yourself, if you don't think so.
AceBlazer13  +   364d ago
lol you have really bad luck with ur consoles
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timl241  +   364d ago
"I think it will be fine." - Do I even need to say anything. He thinks it will be fine? Damn, if Phil Spencer and Bullmer ever said those words it would be the end of the world.

"They know how to design the console so it doesn't overheat." - Okay...Doesn't mean they are going to make it withstand 100 degree heat plus the heat that comes from the PS4.

If this was an Xbox One article people would be shitting down the throats of whoever said this and you all know its true.
Reborn  +   365d ago
"I'm ready, Cerny. I'm on my knees, ready to feel your warm glory all over my face." I expect that line to catch many off guard.

On-Topic: Sounds good, Mark. I can't wait to get mine.
SilentNegotiator  +   365d ago
I don't think too many people read past the first sentence before hitting "agree"
WeMilk   365d ago | Spam
Cryptcuzz  +   365d ago
You made me almost spit my coffee out while reading your comment!

Mark Cerny is a genius that deserves all the success he has had in his life. I could not see anyone more fitting to being the system architect of the PS4 and I am so thrilled that he is.
iceman06  +   365d ago
Be glad that it was just COFFEE!!! LOL
Cryptcuzz  +   364d ago
@iceman6

You weren't so lucky as to spit coffee but something else? LOL
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greedybear88  +   365d ago
The PS4 is an absolute beast. Can't wait to get one!
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Tatsuya  +   365d ago
That's what I like to hear! It's the little things like this that makes SONY a winner!
Gunsmoke  +   365d ago
Sony is far from a winner. They have lost billions over the years and could only post a profit after they sold real estate.
dcj0524  +   365d ago
Sony as a whole is fine. Its the electronics division that isnt doing so hot. Mainly because of samsung.
kewlkat007  +   365d ago
Looking at Sony that past 10 years, t hey have been far from doing fine...
https://www.google.com/fina...
kenshiro100  +   365d ago
Go preach doom and gloom elsewhere. This has NOTHING to do with their financial state. If Sony was in such bad shape, there would be no PS4.

Nice try troll.
Gameratheart  +   365d ago
Wow, tell it like it is, and some fanboys can't handle it. Sony is not doing fine "as a whole".... They need to make some serious money, and quick, before they are anywhere near fine.... I hope they do turn it around, my ps4 is counting on it...

And shadowgeist.... So by your guestimation, sega was doing great
When they released
The dreamcast, right?..... Right???? Because the dreamcast would never have come out if sega were hurting, right??? Yeah, ok.... Sure.

Look, Sony is ailing, it's a fact. This happens to the best of em. Hopefully they can turn it around, quickly. I would hate to see my ps4 stop being manufactured, losing a historical company, like Sony, would be terrible. I hope they turn things around, and looking at the way they're handling the ps4, it's a good sign. I'm excited for it, that's why I paid for one.....
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kenshiro100  +   364d ago
Gameratheart: What does Sega have to do with anything I just mentioned? I never implied that everything at Sony was rosy and peachy. I said that their situation isn't as dire as some of you trolls make it out to be.
Ashunderfire86  +   365d ago
Finally my room won't feel like summer when I turn on the PS4. When I turn on the PS3 my room was just to hot, but it is really good for winter lol!
first1NFANTRY  +   365d ago
do you live in a cupboard or something? lol jks

i know what you mean. i have a phat 80 gig ps3 and with the noise it makes i fully expect it to explode at any moment now.

oh well, i'll just fix it for cheap and trade it in for a ps4 problem solved :)
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Ashunderfire86  +   365d ago
I had an 80 gig also, but now I upgrade it to 300 gig hard drive. Still hot like fire lol!
TheFutureIsBlue  +   365d ago
My phat PS3 sounds like a vacuum cleaner lol. Im hoping it lasts until the PS4 comes out.
ShwankyShpanky  +   365d ago
I've been saying "gotta crack open my phat and vacuum it out" for the last six months. :-P My slim is still quiet as a mouse, though.
NeoTribe  +   365d ago
Thats funny, my original phat did that. Literally heated my room. The first slim i have now doesnt do it and is quite. It actually was good in winter lol.
RedHawkX  +   365d ago
no one should even be worried about a sony console lol. the real people who have to worry are day one xbox one buyers. I have no idea why anyone would buy that console day one. get a ps4 first for cheaper so you can have the most powerful hardware thn later on when you know for sure xbox one wont blow up on you and when it gets a price drop then you can get that console if you still want the 1 or 2 exclusives it will have. i just dont get how some people are getting an xbox one lol
Ashunderfire86  +   365d ago
I will get it When Titanfall(June 2014 rumored), or Halo 5 comes out. Perfect time to get it. What is Xbox without it's mascot. I no fanboy just a gamer. I will get the PS4 first though. As a matter of fact, I preorder it June 10th in the evening seconds after Sony announce the price. All I had to do was refresh the page on Amazon and Bam! It said you can now preorder PS4!!! Man I was happy lol(Gonna save big). Amazon, Gamestop, Bestbuy, and etc had the price in their hands, but waited for Microsoft and Sony to announce the prices before they release.
Sayai jin  +   365d ago
It's down to person taste. Some people want the games that will be on the PS4 while others don't. Others want games that are coming out on XB1 and others don't...and some want both.

The 360 had a serious issue in the red light o death. not doubt. The PS3 had a very minor issue in the yellow light. The first xbox did not have any significant issues, but the PS2 had a serious disk read error on it. So even though Sony makes great hardware, but they do not always make perfect hardware.
zpoc  +   365d ago
just to keep things in perspective - i've had one xbox 360, one ps3 and two wiis all hardware fail on me so... just because the 360 is more known for it doesn't mean it doesn't happen to the others, too...!

but yeah, i'm with you - buying a ps4 now, and waiting and seeing what happens with the xb1. i'll probably get one in a year or two once the price drops if there are a bunch of exclusives i want to check out.
SatanSki  +   365d ago
Solution was simple - put low end components that dont generate much heat inside
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dcj0524  +   365d ago
Lol
dennett316  +   365d ago
If the PS4 is low end, what's the Xbone?
Cryptcuzz  +   365d ago
That would make it lower end, unless someone is buying it just as an add on to their cable box.
RedHawkX  +   365d ago
the xbox one is no end just empty space inside the thing lol. you use your imagination and dont even have to turn on the tv lol. pretend like you are playing games and such.
SatanSki  +   364d ago
If Xbone is even lower end, whats WiiU? Who cares. The fact that MS decided to make even weaker console doesnt change anything.
PSN_ZeroOnyx  +   365d ago
If Sony has low end parts the xbox got their parts from the recycling bin.
SatanSki  +   364d ago
What an intelligent response. COngratulations
edgeofsins  +   365d ago
Low end components generate more heat.
Zhipp  +   365d ago
What are you talking about? A 7850 generates less heat than a 7970, and a jaguar CPU generates less heat than AMD's top of the line desktop Visheras. Low end doesn't necessarily mean shoddily built, it simply means it's on the lower end of the power spectrum. They're still quality components, and a perfect fit for small boxes like the PS4 or Xbox One.
edgeofsins  +   365d ago
@Zhipp

Try getting a 7850 to the same performance as a 7970. It won't be nearly as cool as the 7970.

Higher performance parts run cooler. Sure a higher end card tends to have higher temps. But the point is that a lower end card clocked up to that performance is either not going to work or it will overheat or be much higher heat because it has cheaper/lesser components.

As you definitely should be able to tell, the newer series of cards runs similar temperature or cooler in some cases then the older series while having significant performance upgrades.

Welcome to PC hardware.

If you think Xbox 1 isn't terribly built by being so huge with the kind of hardware it has and still having an external power brick to cut down on size isn't bad then just wait.
Zhipp  +   356d ago
I know that this is an old post but I feel that I need to tell you that you still missed my point entirely.

Here's a hint: I'm not trying to defend the Xbox.
edgeofsins  +   356d ago
@Zhipp

Who said you were defending X1?

Things go right over your head.

I assume you are referencing when I said "If you think Xbox 1 isn't terribly built by being so huge with the kind of hardware it has and still having an external power brick to cut down on size isn't bad then just wait.".

Which is my reply to when you said "They're still quality components, and a perfect fit for small boxes like the PS4 or Xbox One.".

You don't have an argument. Explain to me how a low end card can't run as powerful as a high end card at the same temperatures. Going by your first reply you are saying everything high-end is higher temperature, which is not true whatsoever. I have a 6870 and my friend has a 7950 and another has a 7970 and theirs run so much cooler then mine. Higher performance means less struggle and that means higher framerate with less heat ups.

If you noticed, I never said low-end components meant shoddily built, it was all you being ignorant and saying a bunch of things, that aren't true. I just hope you have the decency to admit you are wrong. If I am wrong then go ahead and prove me wrong. Right now that possibility is 0 seeing how I'm telling you the facts.
dontbhatin  +   365d ago
Edgeofsins is right. Low end components do create more heat due to being cheaply built and inefficient.
bumnut  +   365d ago
You are misunderstanding what low end means, like Zhipp said.
edgeofsins  +   365d ago
@bumnut

1. He misunderstood what low-end meant by talking about low-end-rated hardware when we talked about actual construction and components.

2. Zhipp was wrong either way.

3. He mentioned a high/mid-range GPU compared to one of the top of the line GPU's.

He is just going off-topic.

Once again, talking about the same hardware he mentioned. Underclock a Vishera and it will run cooler with higher performance then tons of processors because it is newer and built better. It isn't just higher clock speeds. If you really think AMD has been using the same chip the whole time and just increasing clock speeds then you are wrong. They have better build quality and components now to achieve higher clock speeds while running cooler then what they used to be. Try getting an old CPU to 5 GHz without liquid nitrogen. The AMD FX-9590 can run 5 GHz without overclocking and doesn't need that extensive of cooling hardware.
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tigertron  +   365d ago
Hopefully this means the fans will be quiet and if that does turn out to be the case then Cerny and Sony will gain even more respect from me.
sAVAge_bEaST  +   365d ago
larger fan = less noise. GDDR5 gives off less heat than the DDR3,. word on the street is its supposed to run very quite.
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a_squirrel  +   365d ago
Quite.
MasterCornholio  +   365d ago
I wouldnt worry about the PS4 however the size of the XBOX One and its huge fan and external power brick are signs that the system produces more heat than the PS4. Because if the PS4 produced a ton of heat it would be just as big as the XBOX One and it would have a power brick.

IMO
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Lunarassassin  +   365d ago
I'm glad that i won't be worrying about the overheating.
But it's even better knowing that i can leave my ps4 on for days, whilst i'm away and play my games on my vita.
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G20WLY  +   365d ago
It should only need to be on standby and you turn it on remotely with Vita. That's how it works with PS3, so you'd expect it to be the same or better.

Here's hoping so! :)
Lunarassassin  +   365d ago
Ahh. Thanks for the info. I haven't actually gotten my vita yet, getting one around mid september and wasn't really sure how it would work.
dontbhatin  +   365d ago
I remember when i would have a game running on my PS2 for 3 weeks straight just cause id pause it turn the tv off and walk away. it was so quiet i forgot about it.
Tundra  +   365d ago
These are the same people who have somehow had a power brick stuffed inside the console for the last 3 gens.

I think it's safe to say it'll be fine.
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medman  +   365d ago
Sony engineering>Microsoft engineering, and by a wide margin.
sAVAge_bEaST  +   365d ago
What would you expect from a hardware company vs. a software company.. -Kinect can read your moods, though.
medman  +   365d ago
I expect that when I purchase an electronic product (or any appliance) that it is built to function properly. The red ring fiasco was appalling. Would you accept such failure from an automobile company? How about your refrigerator or microwave manufacturer? Could you imagine the outcry if flat panel tv's were so unreliable and prone to failure? Microsoft has proven only to be incompetent, at just about every level. How anyone could have confidence in their new Xbone considering how ill prepared they were for it's unveiling and the subsequent confusion of their message is beyond me. I guess the early adopters will have to pray that it isn't prone to the same overheating issues as the early model 360's.
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o-Sunny-o  +   365d ago
I got 4 RRoD I feel really stupid for not getting PS3 sooner. My brother hates Sony with a passion so I never got PS3... :( I got an PS3 one day in fall in 2011. I got Vita day one and fun fun fun. That's all I played since now. I finally played God of War wow It's great. I tried everything else also I now an full fledge fan on Sony. Sony and Nintendo I will be with this gen. ^~^ Also no brick yay!!
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bumnut  +   365d ago
I had 4 RRoD's too, not too bothered about a power brick though.
Kamuymintar  +   365d ago
Summer in Japan is severe.
So Sony will certainly take their products' endurance for high room temperature into consideration.

I remember the episode that Sony failed to develop their first transistor radio TR-52 in 1955 because summer heat warp its cabinet.
(So TR-55 is their first one.)
WeAreLegion  +   364d ago
How old are you?!?
TheGrimReaper0011  +   365d ago
I hope so!
I had to buy a new PS3, cause my old one overheats and turn off in less than 10 minutes and as a result, I had to cancel my PS4 pre-order -_-
There are just still quite the few games that are coming out for PS3
new ratchet and clank game
beyond two souls
GT6
GTA5 (yes "pc-master race" my pc cant handle it)
kingdom hearts 1.5 hd remix (my most anticipated game)
final fantasy 14
Besides, in time when I actually will go out and buy a PS4, it'll cost less AND be bundled in a neabry store!
dennett316  +   365d ago
GTA 5 isn't even announced for PC yet...it may take quite a while for that to come out, at least into next year.
There's still a fair bit of life in the current generation, so don't blame you for sticking with the PS3 for a while yet.
ShwankyShpanky  +   365d ago
Get out your screwdriver, vacuum, canned air, and thermal paste, and that old PS3 will be right as rain.
sAVAge_bEaST  +   365d ago
True story,.. did it to my phat. --

Grim Reaper,. -start with vacuum and canned air,, sounds like that should fix your issue. no need for thermal paste,. yet. (then sell it)
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ShwankyShpanky  +   365d ago
As far as the thermal paste, if you've got it opened, might as well paste it. And if you separate the sink from the chips, which you should do for a thorough cleaning, you should clean them and reapply the paste.

I did this to my old phat, and I've fixed a couple YLoDs, which also includes a thorough cleaning.
dcj0524  +   365d ago
My fat ps3 got clogged up with dust. Made it ylod. My slim hasnt yet. The ps4 vents look massive so I dont think dust will be a problem
MrChicagoWind  +   365d ago
I hope they include a screen for those vents, otherwise, by it being so massive it can collect hella dust. Game systems should have removable air filters like air conditioners, that can be cleaned every 6 months or so.
dontbhatin  +   365d ago
PS2 had sort of a dust filter. open up the expansion bay pull it out. run it through water. dry it and put it back in. :)
farhad2k8  +   365d ago
I'm hoping because the vents are so big, a simple vacuum clean every 6 months will keep it nice and clean until you have to open it up to give it a proper clean. I'm fine with that, and I know I'll be doing that.
wishingW3L  +   365d ago
dust is a much greater enemy than people realize.
TheFutureIsBlue  +   365d ago
That is good to hear for those of us who got the launch day edition. I see Cerny singing "Don't worry, be happy!" haha
quenomamen  +   365d ago
Well has been designing and making all matter of stuff from TVs, home and car audio, etc for years so i'd say they know something about hardware engineering to cope with things like proper heat dissaption. Sony has been making stuff since before ol' Billy gates was stealing other peoples software and starting MS.
PSN_ZeroOnyx  +   365d ago
Don't forget he sold DOS to IBM (and kept all rights to DOS) with nothing at all to sell. Then bought DOS for $50,000 after he already sold it.
jjb1981  +   365d ago
Sony does well with their Vaio line. Because of this I know the ps4 will do fine considering laptop parts are designed to withstand high temperatures.
DogtagDuke1992  +   365d ago
N4G is a sony fanboy site if ive ever seen one....in the article next to this one- "XBOX HAS ENDURANCE ISSUES!!! IS IT WORTH IT TO BUY IT? IT MAY NOT LAST. .......then this article
"PS4 CANT EVER OVERHEAT. IT CAN GO AND GO AND GO!!! ....ehem.....bias much? Im pretty sure MS has a good idea on how to get a console working well- after the RROD fiasco, im sure they are not taking ANY chances whatsoever in terms of questionable hardware.
dennett316  +   365d ago
No, it's not bias....though they do often pick stories with inflammatory titles to get hits. But have a look back a bit and you'll see critical stories and positive stories for all major consoles.
Screaming bias at the first sign of criticism of a game/console company you're currently a fan of is never a good idea....makes you look pretty silly.
Krosis  +   364d ago
No, this site IS pro-Sony . You're an idiot if you think otherwise.
TidePride  +   365d ago
I'm feeling confident they are built very well cooling wise, but I will still be buying a 2 year extended warranty for piece of mind.
Npugz7  +   365d ago
Cool! Good to know!
PSN_ZeroOnyx  +   365d ago
I have a feeling Kaz is going to conquer his white whale this upcoming generation.
Ps4ours  +   365d ago
I'm thinking the ps4 will have a slight failure rate
As any electronic product will have, being built in third world
Countries. Would you put all your effort into building something
For pence an hour? No doubt the xbox one will do too.
Saying that, I'm talking minimal amounts of units worldwide being effected
So nothing to worry about. Well here's hoping I'm not the one who gets one
That's faulty. Fingers crossed
Izzy408  +   365d ago
Note* for anyone thinking on posting something negative about the PS4 or something positive about the X1 on this site, you're gonna have a bad time. I mean just look at the overwhelming PS4 fanboyism. Say something good about the PS4, everyone kisses your ass, say something bad and the disagree button gets pushed like the fire button on a FPS. This has nothing to do with the article, so i'll just leave this here and move a long now.
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duli14  +   365d ago
Off topic!
Izzy408  +   365d ago
Did you read the last sentence? Of course you didn't. Why would I even expect anyone to read everything before talking out of their ass.
WeAreLegion  +   364d ago
N4G is not a Sony fanboy site.

Reddit is not a Sony fanboy site.

IGN is not a Sony fanboy site.

Gametrailers is not a Sony fanboy site.

4chan is not a Sony fanboy site.

Sony just happens to have more fans, in general. I'm not sure I have to explain why that's the case, either.
fsfsxii  +   364d ago
Why do people get butthurt over disagrees?
Ps4ours  +   365d ago
^^ yeah move along troll. Ps4 is a mentally cool next gen
Console. True gamers are going to have some amazing times
With it and the amazing games that are coming out. I personally don't have
Anything against the xbox one but fact is its not as powerful as ps4. But it's still pretty cool too.
But I've always loved and played Playstation and will continue to. Love you all xx
Izzy408  +   365d ago
Thanks for proving my point, and it only took 6 mins.
-_-
Cryptcuzz  +   365d ago
well first of all you're just a tad bit off topic don't you think?

Second of all, I never get why some care about agrees or disagrees so much. There is no system in place like trophy's or achievements that could be shown and bragged about.

Just post a comment about the subject at hand and that's it. If someone responds to said comment, simply reply back or not about how you view said subject and move on. That's what I do at least.

I agree that there seems to be more PS fans on here but I wouldn't see why not. If you were around at the beginning of the X360 and PS3 days, you would know that being a PS fan on here back then is pretty ballsy.

The PS3 was an easy target for ridicule because of its shaky start, which resulted in a lot of X360 fans doing the same thing you are saying the PS fans are doing now with agrees/disagrees.

The PS3 has been doing great compared to its competitor the past few years and thus resulted in the shifts between PS fans/Xbox fans on this site. Now with next gen on the horizon, there will be more PS fans on here simply because of how the PS4 has been doing so great in the media/ public opinion etc.

That's just my 2 cents.
shinrock  +   365d ago
Ps1=pos
P2=pos
I guess 3rd times is a charm.
If any thing goes wrong the forth time then.......
iMixMasTer872   365d ago | Spam
Cryptcuzz  +   365d ago
This is how I read your comment:

Ps1=pos (Must be a sore N64/Saturn fan)
P2=pos (Must be a sore Dreamcast/Gamecube/Xbox fan)
I guess 3rd times is a charm. (Try harder)
If any thing goes wrong the forth time then.......(Keep dreaming)
shinrock  +   365d ago
My online gaming started on Dreamcast.ps 1 had to be placed up side down after a while(fact). Ps2 had disc read problems. I worked for a company call gamexpress during to ps2 and Xbox era and I went through 4 ps2's and so did a lot of my costumers and it was by far the most traded in system.the 1 st Xbox gave so much online joy,I met a lot of good gamer on there.and let's not forget Sony,s first go at online with the ps2,fail.
WeAreLegion  +   364d ago
@shinrock

If you hate games, why are you on this site?
Gameratheart  +   364d ago
You are correct... Top systems, with the most games, but horribly unreliable.... Sorry, the ps1-2, were so cheaply built, that Sony ended up losing a huge class action lawsuit over the millions of failed ps2's.... Yes. Third times a charm. I had a ps1, had to buy a second one because the laser failed.... Had to pay Sony to repair my ps2, after 8 months, because of a failed laser.... When it failed again 5 months later, I skipped the rest of the ps2 generation, and, up until the last of us, skipped the ps3 too... I'm getting a ps4..... This is Sonys last chance to keep me as a customer. Sony doesn't have a history of building quality, reliable hardware.... That only just came with the ps3.
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FanboyCrusher  +   365d ago
From what I've seen on show floors at E3, it does experience some sort of lag issue, I assumed heat. But I guess we will all see at launch.
iMixMasTer872   365d ago | Spam
isarai  +   365d ago
This really seems like it's going to be PS1/PS2 all over again in the sense that it will be a sturdy dependable console that'll last as long as you can take care of it instead of having the lifespan of your console being left up to thing like the YLOD, RROD, and other critical hardware failures
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