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Submitted by Chrono 940d ago | news

Nintendo admits it needs a new video game franchise

Nintendo has been struggling to live up to its own legacy ever since it released the Wii U console last November to middling sales and a chilly critical reception. And while the company has done its best to spur interest in the Wii U with new rounds of "Mario" and "Zelda" games, it has suffered from a persistent lack of third-party content. (3DS, Nintendo, Shigeru Miyamoto, Wii U)

TheLyonKing  +   940d ago
The only reason nintendo consoles sell well (or average) is cause nintendo preys on nostalgia.

GRanted they make good quality games but the wii u really should have been brought out with new ip's rather than trailers of old gaming icons coming out in 2014
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abzdine  +   940d ago
new IP isn't a bad idea it had to happen at some point but they should still keep delivering high quality titles to old Nintendo fans.
Now all i want is a new Zelda before i invest in a Wii Um Zelda for me case is the only reason i buy a Nintendo console.
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ziratul  +   940d ago
New IP's are good but only if they release sequels of already established IP's.
pedrof93  +   940d ago
Same here.
Braid  +   940d ago
Nintendo doesn't need "A NEW" video game franchise but new "franchises".

If they're going to invest in a new IP and keep pushing it out in almost a thousand variation for the upcoming 10 years, that's not going to cut it. That may please the existing Nintendo fans but a new game alone sure as hell won't affect my decision towards which console I should get. That's just not enough.

When Sony or Microsoft is concerned, we keep saying "not enuff gamez were shown at E3 to impress us!" but when it comes to Nintendo, nobody complains. Well, I guess people complaining don't buy the console at all and those who don't complain are loyal Nintendo fanboys and they don't even care if they get new games because they're so into Mario or Zelda.
LOL_WUT  +   940d ago
It does get old after a while now that Nintendo has finally admitted this I wonder if their fans will finally do the same? ;)
lizard81288  +   939d ago

Your are correct. Nintendo has alot of franchise (which is why i'm surprised they said this) but they don't do anything with them. There are a ton of one off franchises Nintendo has, Drill Dozer, Ice Climbers, Sin and Punishment (continuing Saki's story) ect. They could use a number 2.

I think, Nintendo should make a "mature" one. Maybe not all blood and guts, but maybe something like No More Heroes. Something over the top, funny, and violent, but goofy violence.
WickedLester  +   938d ago
But WHY does it have to be Zelda??? What's wrong with investing in a brand new action RPG franchise and introduce new characters? I just don't get gamers who say "Oh I want a new Zelda I want a new Zelda!" Folks move on! Zelda has been done to death! The franchise is not THAT special to deserve to be milked to this degree!
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RedHawkX  +   940d ago
nintendo admits it needs a new franchise but its fanboys dont think it does because they give people disagrees on this site anytime soomeone says nintendo needs to make a new ip. and not one of those mini games, wii fit type games or whatever else indie type games. an actual new ip game that gamers actually want to play.
kreate  +   940d ago

Look at ur disagrees lol
Elem187  +   939d ago
Looks like you got duped by a headline... The headline says Nintendo admits it needs a new IP but no where in the entire story does Nintendo ever say it needs a new IP, instead the exact quote is from Shiggy stating he is working on a new IP.

This is called sensationalism journalism. They intentionally create a headline that gets attention whether it has anything to do with the article or not because they know there is ALOT of goobers, such as yourself, that only reads headlines and not the actual articles.
Dj7FairyTail  +   940d ago
new ip drives systems after big games creates install base. This factual. Look at PS3 weak sales with new IP but got stronger when returning IP came with new IP after.
iceman06  +   939d ago
I think that had more to do with the $600 price tag than anything else. I DO agree, however, that new IP do drive systems while established ones retain the fanbase. That is why Nintendo is still in the game. The power of Mario, Zelda, Metroid, and Pokemon (amongst others) keeps fans with them. New IP, however, could bring NEW fans. Oh, and I didn't press disagree...just some clarification from my opinion.
Elem187  +   939d ago
No, new IP doesn't drive system sales, that is absurd. New IP's sell the worst by far. Established IP's is what sells the most copies... There is very few examples of new IP's selling gangbusters.... Sequels almost always outsell the original.

Producing games your fans want to see most sells systems. Nintnedo's only mistake was releasing a console without its flagship franchises... Having a single Mario game, 2D at that isn't going to build an install base.

Nintendo releases new IP's all the time, but not very many Sony/Microsoft gamers own Nintendo systems so they have no idea, but they race to the Internet to claim they do know what they are talking about.

All those 'Wii' brand games were new franchises whether you liked them or not, steel diver, xenoblade, last story, pandora's tower, pushmo, Crashmo, denpamen, steel diver, disaster day of crisis, dillons rolling western.
_QQ_  +   940d ago
Nostalgia has little to do with it, Nintendo's AAA games are always the best in their Genre.I believe they need a new IP mostly because i'm interested in what Miyamoto can come up with,but i would rather tham bring back old franchises.
Crazyglues  +   940d ago
Oh poor Nintendo what were you thinking? Didn't you see what happen to PS3... How they got off to a rough start.

You have to have Games... If you don't have key games people want to play, why in the world would you think they are just going to pick up your system.

(Sure hardcore market will pick-up, but they love you, but most people the causal gamer needs to see the games) -People buy a system when they know what they are going to be playing on it..

-and that's just the beginning of the problems..

Not to mention most of Nintendo's market (causal gamers) think the Wii U is an accessory for the Wii... some kind of fancy controller with a screen that they don't need.

oh man, Nintendo you guys are in so much trouble and you don't even know it..

They plan on coming out with key titles around the time when Nex Gen Consoles will drop..

It's like out of the three companies that make systems, only Sony decided to actually ask the consumer, "hey what is it that you guys want" and the PS4 was born.

and the pre-order numbers on PS4 prove that at least one company still gets it...

I have no idea why Nintendo would think it would be a good idea to launch a system without it's key games... That mistake is not only going to come back to bite them, but it's going to bury the systems chances of surviving the nex gen console wars...

The Wii U's numbers have already dipped below the wii's.. that's not a good sign.

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RmanX1000  +   940d ago
they dont just need new IPs. They need to give more love to the existing IPs that arent Mario and Zelda. And should actually make another F-Zero or Star Fox.
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GenericNameHere  +   940d ago
Metroid got good games with Prime, but Nintendo gave two farts about it on it's 25th Anniversary. Instead, ALL attention went to Legend of Zelda. Mario's 25th Anniversary, and they released a horrible cash-in with the Mario Wii bundle that had the old Mario games, but the controllers displayed were (S)NES controls. So basically Nintendo just put SNES games onto a Wii disc, called it an "Anniversary" Mario game, and expected people to buy it.

They don't care about their billion selling franchises, and they know Mario will sell even if the product is horrible and was a cheap cash-in.
fossilfern  +   940d ago
I was genuinely upset that Nintendo paid No attention to Metroids 25th because I really think it's one of Nintendo best franchise.

But the WiiU really needs an injection of games from Nintendo or 3rd party exclusives.
camel_toad  +   940d ago
Super Metroid takes it for me. I've never felt so sad to see something so nasty and frightening die. Broke my heart!
Dj7FairyTail  +   940d ago
BUILD THE INSTALL BASE with Mario, Zelda, Smash Bros and Donkey Kong the later brings those IP.
vakarian75  +   940d ago
They should make a new F-Zero and Star Fox.
Elem187  +   939d ago
Yes your right, Nintendo shouldn't release the games that sell 10's of millions of copies, they should only make games that sell in the hundreds of thousands, because that would be smart business... Who needs profits anyways?

You seriously think a company is going to concentrate on niche titles in the beginning of its life cycle? Why make Metroid that will struggle to meet half a million when you can make a DK title that will sell 10 times that much..... Unless you think companies shouldn't worry about making a profit.

I'm convinced gamers have the most shallow grasp of business out of any other group of people in the world.

The average gamer thinks "because I like Metroid, that means everyone does and everyone will buy it, I don't like Mario so that means nobody will buy it, see I'm brilliant, if Nintendo doesn't listen to my expert business advice they deserve to fail!!"

Truth is, Nintendo makes the games that their fans want. Their fans speak with their wallets. If Mario wasn't a profitable franchise they would bother making it anymore.... You may want another fzero, but the last fzero was such a commercial failure, no company in their right mind would make another one just because a vocal minority wants one.... They aren't in business to invest 20 million dollars on a title that will only bring in 5 million dollars in revenue. That's how companies become SEGA cough cough Shenmue.
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fsfsxii  +   940d ago
They better make new ones. I've only played 4 mario games and i'm already tired of them.
Dj7FairyTail  +   940d ago
right like Nintendo only has Mario lol go play Sin & Punishment, Fire Emblem, Xenoblade, Golden Sun, Drill Dozer, 1080 Snow Boarding and others.
fsfsxii  +   940d ago
I know that NINTENDO has other IPs, but Mario is what they just keep forcing down people's throats.
Plus, having more new IPs doesn't hurt
iceman06  +   939d ago
True...but perception is everything. Nintendo only pushes marketing and advertising (as well as publicity at industry events) on the Mario, Zelda, Pokemon holy trinity. A new customer doesn't want to have to discover that there are other games on a console. Look at the Vita, which I own. You have to take a leap of faith of $250 to discover that there are actually games on the system. Why? Because nobody knows's not advertised and marketed that way.
vakarian75  +   940d ago
You don't have to only get Mario games their not holding a gun to your head saying if you don't buy these Mario games ill kill you.
JackVagina  +   940d ago
I dont think nintendos made a new IP since N64...

edit: forgot pikmin lol
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Moncole  +   940d ago
Than your an idiot.
Merrill  +   940d ago
'Then you're' an idiot, idiot.

Than - A comparison. " rather than, better than"

Your - possession. "Your car, your fault"

Spell/grammar check your insult next time.
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TekoIie  +   940d ago
Yeh Nintendo havent made any new IP's since N64...

.... Like Pikmin -_-

We all think Ninty doesnt make any new IP's but if you look hard enough you'll find them. Once again it goes to show we only publicize the games which feature their main characters usually.
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starfox79  +   940d ago
The proper question here is Nintendo don't need new franchises compared to Sony/Microsoft,all the franchises they invented are the biggest in the industry still in terms of fans ect the likes of Zelda,Donkeykong,FZero,mario,M ariokart,Metroid,Smash,ect ect,they have so many they could just bring a few bk like Machrider Waverace,jobs a good one because people still remember the names,Sony and Microsoft have none in comparison ie why there always Sony anyway trying to invent new ones like littlebigplanet ect to gain some kind of Legacy like Nintendo,Nintendo have achieved this so not really a big need for new franchises,more a need to bring bk Waverace,Duckhunt,FZreo,ect ect.
Angeljuice  +   940d ago

From the article:
" The staleness of Nintendo's brands is something that's even become a point of contention for Nintendo itself recently."

So Nintendo don't need new IP's because they have plenty of decades old "stale" IP's to rehash? That may work for you, but they have to appeal to a wider audience than the withering number of die hard Nintendo fans.

I'm going to throw caution to the wind and go out on a limb here; I predict that the new IP in question will be based around some cutesy creature and have cartoon-like graphics. Now there's a bold
TekoIie  +   940d ago

Those Franchises have aged incredibly well and I disagree with those saying they should stop releasing them and move onto something new. You offer what your fanbase wants... BUUUUUUT!

When your games rake in such incredible sales:
(Exclude WiiSports obviously)

Your really have no excuse for not taking the occasional risk and making a whole new franchise. Make something that would appeal to current fans but offer's something new (like what Pikmin did).


"I'm going to throw caution to the wind and go out on a limb here; I predict that the new IP in question will be based around some cutesy creature and have cartoon-like graphics. Now there's a bold"

Not sure if your implying thats bad or not... Besides they could create a character who feels similar to Link/Samus in its design :)
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Picnic  +   940d ago
Pikmin, Luigi's Mansion, Wii Sports, Wii Resort...

But it's a short list unless you count the resurrection of Metroid.

The N64 was where they came up with a lot of ideas, the Gamecube was just where they refined them with smoother graphics.
Koyes  +   940d ago
The fact you even mention Wii Sports and Wii Resort just goes to show how lacking Nintendo are
Dj7FairyTail  +   940d ago
most recent Nintendo IPs
The Wonderful 101
Dillion Rolling Western
Harmo Knight
The Last Story
Pandora's Tower
Steel Diver
Sakurai Samurai
Shin Megami Tensei x Fire Emblem
edgeofsins  +   939d ago
I think Metroid being so drastically different in gameplay style from its classic days counts, sorta.
Dunpeal  +   940d ago
lol Nintendo. I was really pulling for nintendo after the N64, but man they keep making arrogant mistake after arrogant mistake. Refusing to evolve with the industry eh Ninty? how's that working out for you?
starfox79  +   940d ago
Try they have so much properties it's not as easy to develop all these games as well as invent new ones ??

Especially at the quality they aim for....
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GenericNameHere  +   940d ago
That's why they need more teams to help create games.

And about your previous comment... So because Nintendo's games are "Legacy", they don't need to create new IPs? That Mario and Zelda are enough as is? That the only reason Sony and Microsoft create new IPs is because they only want to replicate the "Legacy"? Well, sure, I agree with that somewhat. Every company keeps trying until they have something on their hands that will sell. But you don't stop there. You keep making more games, in hopes that people will like it, and someday, you'll make new games again. You can bring back old franchises, but you also gotta make new ones.

If the Nintendo fanboy mentality is thinking that putting Mario's name in everything is brilliant, and that not creating new IPs is good because Nintendo has "Legacy" games anyways, then I hope I never become a Nintendo fanboy. (Note: Not that this doesn't also apply to Playstation and Xbox fanboys)
Dj7FairyTail  +   940d ago
They have
R&D Divisions
Nintendo EAD
Nintendo SPD
Nintendo IRD
Nintendo NBD
Nintendo NSD
Nintendo Software Technology
Nintendo Technology Development
Nintendo North Bend
Nintendo European Research & Development
1-UP Studio
HAL Laboratory
Intelligent Systems
Monolith Soft
Nd Cube
Creatures Inc.
Retro Studios

Camelot Software Planning
Game Freak
Genius Sonority
Kuju Entertainment
Monster Games
Namco Bandai Games
Next Level Games
Platinum Games
Red Entertainment
Shin'en Multimedia
Sora Ltd.
Square Enix
Syn Sophia
Tecmo Koei
The Pokémon Company
WayForward Technologies

Namco Bandai Games
Square Enix
Tecmo Koei

Has all worked on Nintendo IPs
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RetardedIceCream  +   939d ago
they are the richest in the gaming industry, so pretty well
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kirbyu  +   940d ago
What is it ends up being a new franchise that uses an existing property. Like Mario Bowling or something
GenericNameHere  +   940d ago
Mario Bowling... That can't be considered a new IP. That's just milking the Mario IP even more. Mario Soccer, Mario Tennis, Mario Kart, what do you suggest more? Mario Gardening?
millzy102  +   939d ago
not defending Mario bowling but all of them Mario games are different IP's, Ip stands for intellectual property so Mario kart is one ip and super Mario is another, ones kart racing and the other platforms,

the puppeteer from Sony is a new ip although it uses an already established character from littlebigplanet ( any respectable Sony fan would know the puppeteer is the main baddy in LBP) same argument,
from the beach  +   940d ago
They did it with great success last gen (Wii Sports, Brain Training, Nintendogs, Wii Fit, Professor Layton), no doubts about Nintendo's IP factory!
RedHawkX  +   940d ago
get that crap out of here lol. gamers dont play that stuff. that stuff is for kindegardeners.
Shadowsteal  +   940d ago
No but for real. Gamers don't play that stuff, except maybe Layton. And most of us gamers have the decency to go to a real gym not play Wii fit at home.
from the beach  +   940d ago
Hey, speak for yourselves. Millions and millions of people bought and play those games so really, who are you to say they're not gamers?

At any rate those are all new franchises from last gen and the quality, innovation and success they had gives me confidence that whatever Nintendo does next will be great too.
InTheLab  +   940d ago
My 5 year olds play Kart and NSMB so no, those games are not for gamers in general...

Well, other than Layton...
vakarian75  +   940d ago
That's why all of those games get really high review scores from adults right?
edgeofsins  +   939d ago
Real gamers play games. They aren't limited to mainstream or hidden gems. WiiSports is a fun game. That is all a true gamer needs is a game to enjoy.
stage88  +   940d ago
And this has only taken 20 years...
BosSSyndrome  +   940d ago
Except not. Unless of course you mean Miyamoto-invented IP only, in which case his last REAL game was Pikmin in 2001. However he did make things like Wii sports Nintendogs since then but I don't really count those.
stage88  +   940d ago
Ok my comment was a bit of an exaggeration but still 2001?
That was 12 years ago. Absolutely atrocious from Nintendo.
360ICE  +   940d ago
FINALLY! The Wii had really only 1 succesful and entirely new Nintendo franchise. That's about as many new franchises as Microsoft Game Studios developedf for 360, and they hardly do anything at all! Sony made like 50 (Rough estimate). They already have three in-house AAA promising new franchises on PS4 for crying out loud!

Hope Nintendo will get their act together. It's not a competition in quantity. It's just about trying out some new universes.
nigelp520  +   940d ago

Star Fox
Wave race
F zero
1080 Snowboarding
Eternal Darkness
Battalion Wars
Pokemon MMO
vakarian75  +   940d ago
I think that a console Pokemon rpg would be more likely than an mmo but if they do an ammo it should be like the old republic that you have companions with personalities and could go through the story without actually having to play with other people.
Stoppokingme  +   940d ago
Nintendo has plenty of IPs, it's just that they never give any franchise the time of day unless it's Mario, Zelda, or Pokemon.

F zero, Star Fox, No more Heroes, Rogue squadron, They have plenty up their sleeve, but for some absurd reason they ignore these much loved franchises.
FinalomegaS  +   939d ago
it's just that they never give any franchise the time of day"

think the reason why is because they rely on their golden goose and not over saturate a system with to many of their IPs...

I personally would like to see a new Blast Corp.
TuxedoMoon  +   940d ago
Xenoblade and the Wii fit/Sports stuff does count as New IP. (Not sure if Pandora's Tower, Eternal Darkness, and The Last Story counts as Nintendo IPs) People always complain about how Nintendo doesn't make new IP and when they do have something new...they get ignored.

Though Kid Icarus isn't a brand new IP, it was revived with new mechanics and stuff for the 3ds. Does Nintendo NEED a new IP all the time? Nope! A new IP once in a while, yes, but not all the time. People are all content with playing Mario Kart, pokemon, and Smash bros. and those games are STILL system sellers despite them being "rehashed" games.

Nintendo IS nostalgia and I'd rather have Nintendo use their core characters than make them fade away like Capcom or Sony. Megaman is practically dead now and Sony's first mascot, Crash, is lost somewhere.

What kind of new IP do you guys expect from Nintendo? Somethign as Big as Zelda?
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vakarian75  +   940d ago
How does Xenoblade not count as a new ip its a completley new game made by Monolith Soft which Nintendo owns? Yes Pandoras Tower Eternal Darkness and The Last Story are all Nintendo IPs.
CouldHaveYelledUiiW  +   940d ago
Nintendo just needs a 2 games:

They need a Modern Open World &
They also need a Modern or Future FPS.
(and they need frequent releases of these titles).


Maybe they could even base one off of Monolith Soft's "Disater: Day of Crisis" IP (which is owned by Nintendo but not released outside of Japan).

All of Their Exclusives that look "cORE" rarely leave Japan and if they do they require a FIGHT (Operation: RF)

Why didn't they release Xenoblade -and why isn't the Wii/WiiU DQX out in the West?
-I even think of later Fatal Frames, that weren't released outside of Japan.

And they need to rebuke the person that keeps telling them to not release all their games outside of Japan.

I think they are too paranoid of taking a risk with their Nintendo Seal of Approval outside of Japan- if they feel this way they should mark the boxes with additional Lables.

Call them "Imports" or make them only available via the E-Shop.
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Exodecai  +   940d ago
Give me a Wario/Waluigi game already Nintendo >.<
Gaming_Guru  +   940d ago
Nintendo released the Wii U a year had the next generation market to themselves and all they had to show for it were ports of games that look identical to the PS3, XBOX 360 generation. None of those ports took adventage of the better hardware not creating any incentives, and their key IP's are taking forever. By the time the key IP's come out, XBOX ONE and PS4 will be there to compete.

On top of that lack of online support, a unified reward system, or power to create games on par with PS4 / XBOX ONE.
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josephayal  +   940d ago
new video game franchise? MEH! Nintendo need a new console to match the PS4 and the Xbox 1
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InTheLab  +   940d ago
I'm all for a new IP from N but what's really keeping me away from the console is the lack of Metroid and Zelda. I want that tech demo of Zelda to be an actual game.

I also would love to see another Conduit, and maybe a motion gimmick-less Red Steel.

What I don't want to see is more HD remakes being sold as an almost full price game...
Firan  +   940d ago
I hope it's an adventure game.
MilkMan  +   940d ago
Its to bad that things are always perceived as having to win and lose. I guess this is the only way human beings can think or make associations.

Their is a valid point to make about most children growing up not with Mario but with Rovio's Angry Birds. A travesty really.

Personally, I am a gamer and I thought all my children right. First Mario, then we gradually move on to the big boy consoles. We started with Mario, we are now on Ratchet and Clank.

mind you, all my kids have IPads. They know the difference between a game and thumb wrestling time wasters.

However, since most "gamers" have a bone to pick with Nintendo, Wii's and WiiU's have been shunned.

Nintendo is their own entity and it would be a dark day indeed if all we had to play was COD and Battlefield as entry level games for children.

Not only would the parents be douches and inappropriate, but it hurts the industry as a whole.

Thats like taking your 3 year old to see Evil Dead instead of Finding Nemo.

All this being said a new IP from Nintendo has me more intrigued than anything I saw on E3.
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o-Sunny-o  +   940d ago
I'm glad Miyamoto is working on a new game then! ^~^
TH3KARMACHARGER  +   940d ago
New IPs or Reboots of the forgotten ones like Sin & Punishment, Golden Sun, Drill Dozer, 1080 Snow Boarding and a few more so forgotten even I forgot.
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FinalomegaS  +   939d ago
the truth behind the new nintendo IPs ____ (parody)
Meanwhile at the Kyoto HQ base>>>>

Iowata- while surfing the web he noticed the same old news from the west ( this of course was from a pop up while surfing p0rn and he wasn't using FF or chrome but IE!!!!Fail)

Iowata- DAMMMMMIT!!!!!!!!!!!!These internet people will never leave us alone! We gave them WIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII SPORTS!!!! They should be happy we actually made something other than Mario ( daydreams into space~ Scrooge McDucks vault with lots and lots of USD cash...ahhhhhhhhh)

Iowata- Storms out of his office and goes straight to Miyamotos Office.

Miyamoto- Ummmm yes Boss? I was busy playing some free games on Eshop...

Iowata- Miyamoto!!! Did you see how the west is trash talking us???

Miyamoto- Naw bro, that why Reggie is there. He kick they ass for us.

Iowata-NO! i saw it on the internet!!! Reggie-nator-san can't help us with this.

Miyamoto- Crap! uh.. hmmm... by the way, what's the problem?

Iowata- Lies about us, seems we need some new franchise!

Miyamoto- ahh, thought it was a real problem. I'll think something up while in my garden after work. umm want it to be single player or multiplayer???

Iowata- HELLO!@@@@ Single player, no one plays online- DUH!

Miyamoto & Iowata- hahahahahahahahahaha

*later that day*

Iowata contacts Regiie- Reggie-sama you might have seen the lies on the internet about us and how we keep using the same old on a sec ( translator was drinking) Franchise.

Reggie- Umm sir, i wanted to warn you but it seems you are on top of it already. Not sure how you surf the web so fast to get this news( thinking he's using Firefox, since IE always crashes and gets all that pop up shit).

Iowata- hahaha someday i will tell you my secret~

Iowata- Oh yes, don't worry Reggie-sama. Miyamoto will handle this.

Reggie- !!!! NANI!!! HOW? He was supposed to let the 3rd parties bring their franchises before we re-re-re-release ours... Sir the plan is ruined.isn't it?

Iowata- No Reggie-sama, this must be!

to be continue...

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