Sony has spoken about accessing your PS4 games on any machine, and how PlayStation 4′s ability to ‘play as you download’ makes, “a digital [game] library a practical option in the real world”.
Very cool feature. This is huge incentive for people to buy digital copies as well - have friends you trust, and potentially share games instantly by sharing accounts. I'm sure there's counter-measures in place against it, but it's an awesome possibility.
Wait isn't that like the digital sharing with friends that was on Xbox one but it got canceled because it requires always online? Funny how Sony is able to do it without always online. Again my console of choice, let Microsoft's fanboys eat their deception up. Digital library on the go, no drm? Sony!
yes, it's pratically the same, and that whole "10 people share plan" was possible on the PS3 except with 5 (now 2) people.
WOW. This is a megaton. So basically Sony is including the "play your library anywhere" in the PS4 but without the DRM and online requirement? Hahaha! Hilarious. Hey, XBox fans! You were complaining that Microsoft removed this feature? Well, Sony has you covered.
There's a difference though. Microsoft were going to forcevalways online. But sony are still giving you an option on whether you are online, at all, or not.
you have to be online to access said library! so yes to do this you will need to be ALWAYS ONLINE haha. and the system wasn't always on it was once every 24 hours. i didnt agree with the policies but get them right if your going to bash them. its like netflix, to access it you need to be online. and you cant have your friends access your library so again no its not the same, you can only access your games by signing in.cool feature and great incentive to buy digital...not the same
You'll probably have to connect the PS4 to have access to your digital library which is more or less the same thing than with the Xbox.
NO! People need to get this through their heads. Their game sharing with 10 people was ridiculous. It allowed a purchaser of a game to share a 45-60 minute demo of the game. That's all!
A lot of people are going to realise this when Sony ACTUALLY announce these kind of features because so far they haven't got around to it yet. It wasn't really a priority. They focused on EVERYTHING that we want to hear first.
I don't understand what you guys are talking about at all (assuming you are talking about the family share plan). This is nothing like the family share plan. The share plan would have let other people in their accounts use your games. So they would be logged in as themselves. What they are talking about in this article is logging in as you and downloading and playing the game on a different system. In order for that to work like the family share, you would have to give the other people you want to share with your password, and hope that they don't abuse it. The family share plan was much safer, as they never logged in as you. Aside from that, the new and exciting thing about this isn't being able to download and play a game on a different system, its the being able to play instantly. On my Xbox 360 (and I am sure it works the same way already on the PS3, and it also works this way on XB1 even after the DRM changes) you can already download a game you own on a different system if you are logged in as you. I do it all the time. But if you have to wait an hour before you can play it is frustrating. Being able to play instantly on a new machine is the cool part.
between playing your games on another system and sharing them with others. This is no different than what we have now on the ps3 and 360. if i sign in to a friends ps4 or xb1 as myself...would i not be able to download a game from my collection and play it on that other system???? I do this right now with ps3 games and 360 games. When i sign out, that game becomes more of a demo for the other person who signs in as themselves. But if i sign in and my friend signs in we can both play the full game. so the games are tied to your ID not the system as it relates to accessing them via another persons system. When you dl a game to YOUR system, there is a license that is placed on that system and you can play online or offline. When you dl a game from YOUR library to a friends system, that license is temporary and only active so long as you are signed in. As for the game sharing thing....i see it like the timed trials that ps+ offers but because the idea was scrapped we dont know any more details of how it works. A timed trial on PS+ is exactly that. you dl the whole game and play it for 60 minutes. I never tried it myself because it is my understanding that after the time is up the game becomes invalid and you need to dl it again if you want to play. i was under the impression that you play for 60 minutes then you need to wait a certain amount of time before you could pick up where you left off. Essentially playing the entire game in 60 minute intervals. Is that about right? (anyone who uses timed trials please let me know) So the xb1 game shares could have been like that but now that its gone we will never know. OR...MS could bring it back seeing as they "flipped a switch" to make the DRM thing go away.
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A ha ha, Sony lets you do now what MS fanboys thought was going to be such a great feature on the X1 through its DRM (the game sharing). Except on Playstation 4, you can start playing shortly after starting the download, and on X1 you would have had to wait til "x" number of gigabytes (probably at least in the teens) have downloaded. Yet I hear no praise from MS fans about this and you don't need some draconian DRM to do it. And I highly doubt the MS 10 game family sharing would have worked the way MS fanboys thought it would have worked. You's honestly think that greedy a$$ MS would let 10 friends share/spilt the game? You's are delusional! This MS we are talking about. And beside MS could still do it now if they wanted to, but the truth is, they don't want to, cuz I guarantee you, it wasn't what people thought it was
@dedicatedtogamers "So basically Sony is including the "play your library anywhere" in the PS4 but without the DRM and online requirement? Hahaha! Hilarious." The reason behind the DRM was that the discs are full installs. So you could install your on-disc game onto your One (as opposed to downloading it) and then immediately access it from any other console. Admittedly, Microsoft's protection methods weren't optimal for all users, but the fact that you could do this via disc or digital download was pretty cool. This looks to be for digitally downloaded games only, which is still cool. However, I've seen soooo many people on here complaining about how important discs are for sharing and maintaining a collection and used games and everything else that was said by so many people just a short while ago that I don't think it will catch on. Plus it requires an internet connection, which many people have said that they do not want to be required. At least with the people who were saying those things. Repeatedly. Every day. In every thread. But choice is good.
lol. Suddenly, now that Sonys doing it, digital downloads/digital sharing is a great thing!!! Never mind that MS had a better plan. Never mind that MS already has these exact features in place. Never mind that I have heard these very features badmouthed endlessly by the Sony Attack Force. If you buy digital, you can access your games from any Xbox One. Physical media sucks, and you all know it. Now go back to your ignant little lives.
No it is nothing like the Xbox system. I you fanboys will ACTUALLY read and UNDERSTAND what it is saying, the article say you must DOWNLOAD the game at your friends house and you will be able to play "the first level" immediately. The Xbox system required zero download and you played what ever level you wanted.
@CMK - your wrong. You can access your games via online but might be able to download them to console and play them offline. Did you think of that? Probably not.
@dlocsta, can you give a link of that magic trick you're talking about? Having full instant access to a game without a streaming service like Gaikai or remote play it's impossible.
I see way too many noobs in this thread, you guys act like the Microsoft 10 people sharing plan was an amazing idea, when PS3 had done it with 5 members since launch day, you dont need to be online, you only need to be able to download the content into your PS3 HDD once its there you can access it of line at all times, you can still do that today with 2 PS3 (they brought down the number, pressure from publishers for sure) again this is nothing new xbox people, stop acting like MS was doing you a favor, when you cant share for Sh*# on your current xbox
Xbox fans may not even open this article. They don't want the wrath.
I can already access my digital library from any PS3 in the world, I just have to deactivate the game from one friend's PS3 before I can install it on another. The only difference here, Sony lets you play as you install on PS4, so it'll make it much more practical. And to the fools trying to say "You have to be always online!". No. You don't. You only have to be online while the game is downloading. After it installs, it's yours to take offline if you choose. PSN already operates this way. Microsoft has just tricked all their fanboys into thinking their DRM enabled something new, when all they did was slap a new catch phrase on it and try to rebrand it as something that PSN already lets you do. Sony is simply adding play as you download to a feature already on PS3. One Xbox One (in some cases successfully) attempted to fool people into thinking was worth all that DRM bullcrap. I bet all those people signing petitions for MS to adopt their old policy again feel dumb now.
C'mon stop it, Sony You're just trolling MS now at this point Have you no mercy?
huge news indeed! how can one not fall in love with this console?
I don't see what's special. I can do that with Xbox 360 today.
It seems like everyone just read the headline and started peeing their pants. This is possible on PS3 already. This has nothing to do with game sharing nor does it have to do with the Xbone's former game sharing feature.
This comment will probably get mauled by the fanboys but please hear me out. This is not the same as the canceled family sharing that was on Xbox One. Family sharing aloud other xbox live accounts to play your digital games. All this allows you to do is play your digital games on any consoles as long as you log in to your account. The point of this announcement is just to show off the play as you download feature of the PS4.
The bare-bones features on the X1 and the PS4 were different. This is simply moving your account, re-downloading the game, most likely the license, and it'll only work with an internet connection due to the license of the digital title. That's just how it is today, in fact I can do it with my 360. Difference i with the PS4 I can play as it downloads which is pretty cool.
if they allow this then yeah i agree, now it has what x1 doesnt. im happy.
the sharing on Xbox one allowed your friends to download a time trial demo.. your friends could download and play the title for an hour, thats it... wth is the point of sharing anything if its just a demo, download it yourself
yep this is awesome at this point everyone should be getting a ps4 next gen. there is no reason not to.
@dedicatedtogamers, "WOW. This is a megaton." What is, the ability to sign into your own account at a friends house and play your games that are stored in the cloud? It's already being done. "So basically Sony is including the "play your library anywhere" in the PS4 but without the DRM and online requirement? Hahaha! Hilarious. Hey, XBox fans! You were complaining that Microsoft removed this feature? Well, Sony has you covered." It's not what was proposed on the Xbox One. The Xbox One was going to allow you to install disc based games, not just games you bought on the store, and access them from anywhere on any Xbox One. It was also going to allow up to 10 family members to share your library. What this means on the PS4 is you sign-in and you have access to your digital bought games on any PS4. What it doesn't mean is disc based games or others to share your library while you aren't signed in. Yet this person gets a well said? Amazing.
@Nitrowolf2 - Well, the 10 people share plan on Xbox One I don't think allowed you all to play simultaneously like the 5(now 2) sharing on PS3. I wonder if the PS4 will have the 2 console sharing like PS3, where you can basically choose a friend to share all your games and DLC with, and you can play it together on each of your gamertags at the same time.
"WOW. This is a megaton." "So basically Sony is including the "play your library anywhere" in the PS4 but without the DRM and online requirement? Hahaha! Hilarious." dedicated what the hell are you talking about, I can't believe so many people who follow gaming news are this misinformed. The only thing new here is they let you play while downloading, something the X1 does also. The family sharing was going to allow you to INSTALL DISC BASED GAMES OR DOWNLOAD DIGITAL GAMES AND SHARE BOTH WITH UP 10 FRIENDS, ANYWHERE, AT ANYTIME(if you or another in the group were not playing it) ON DIFFERENT CONSOLES WITHOUT THEM USING YOUR PERSONAL LOGIN/ID ACCOUNT= that's why you needed the 24hr check/drm. So this is very different from what X1 was offering and plus 360 already does this but you have to login in and it can only be used with your personal ID/gamertag account. WOW and now once sony is talking about a feature that's already available like playing digital downloaded games on any console you guys are singing to the high heavens about how great it is, it sounds hypocritical since a lot of the same people were saying physical games are better than digital. Also it wasn't a glorified demo system "Microsoft employees made it clear that a player could have ANYONE in their shared games library list, family or friend, and they would be able to play any game they want with the only “restriction” being that only 1 person out of the 10 could have access at a time." http://www.structuregaming....
Simple logic, MS doesn't have it.
NO region lock on top of all these is a major plus specially for Japanese games
Those saying this is not what was proposed on XB1 have it wrong, somewhat. You can use another account to play games you download on PSN. Any account you want, in addition to your own. You have 2 licenses at any given time with every copy of your games. You take one, and you can give a friend the other. You two can play against each other in most games. However, you must deactivate friend #1's copy before you can let friend #2 download it. They do have to sign in under your account initially to access your download list, but that's it. From then on they can use whatever account they want to play the software. XB1 wanted to have the same one friend at a time policy, but they simplified it a little to enable 9 other friends to be on a "waiting list" to play that game. They couldn't play the game at the same time (not even on the same day) as the first friend, but could afterwards. That minor difference is not worth all the DRM garbage they tried shoving down our throats. It was a poorly thought out system that overprotected itself. They could have used Sony's policy and tacked the 9 friend waiting list onto it, and it would have worked just fine.
You can do this same thing on xb1 even after policy reversal, and obviously being digital games you would have to be online to have access to them on someone elses console.
frosty it was a lot different some people are just conveniently overlooking the obvious difference “You can visit your friends house you can log into your account and play any game from your digital library" It says right here that you have to log into your account, I can already do that to play games I downloaded digitally. Did you even read what you wrote I don't know if that's true but activating and deactivating is ridiculous workaround stuff to share a game and I don't want to give ANYBODY my account info. Again this was completely different from the X1 sharing, which would have allowed you to just easily share among 10 friends who are in your group as long as someone was not already playing the same game. http://www.structuregaming....
Wow I am a ps4 guy but this is getting outta hand....we can already do this on ps3...this is not some brand new feature to counter-act the family sharing plan as that is completely different. You are logged into your OWN account on your OWN xbox but you share your library with multiple people on their OWN account on their OWN xbox one. I think there is gonna be a limit as to how many ps4s you can log into most likely...idk for sure. They'll definitely detail it later I suppose.
Lol....no this is not the same feature Microsoft had in place for the X1. See what was said is that "YOU" can access your "DIGITAL" games library from anyone's console. See the key word there is "YOU" not your friends. With the X1 Microsoft was going to let you do the same thing. The difference is they were going to let you nominate up to ten people to access "YOUR" games form anywhere in the world on "THEIR" system and account at "ANYTIME". While they are playing your game you would still have access and play the "SAME" game at the "SAME" time. The only restriction was only you and one other friend could play at a time. So like I said it is not the same and Microsoft plan for that feature is better.
@darth "When you dl a game to YOUR system, there is a license that is placed on that system and you can play online or offline. When you dl a game from YOUR library to a friends system, that license is temporary and only active so long as you are signed in." U don't need to be signed in. The system just needs a 1 time activation. No password/signing in required. Doesn't matter whose console the license is activated on, a console is just a console. Unless I'm misunderstanding u, if that's the case my bad.
Actually this is incorrect. Like many posted below, this is a feature that is available today on both systems. This never had anything to do with DRM. However, what I think you're thinking about has to deal with physical disks. Ex: you buy a disk from Gamestop, but it in X1 and a copy of the game is automatically added to your digital library. You wouldn't need the disk anymore and any game you had on disk can be accessed from anywhere just like a straight digital purchase. Very different from what this article is about.
@dedicatedtogamers "Well, Sony has you covered." Reminds me of Don Mattrick's quote. Here's an edited version for this occassion. There's a console you can play your digital library on any console anywhere you're at. It's called the PS3. Oh yeah, and the PS4.
NOoooooooo.... We need DRM because we cannot sharez da digital gamez without it !!!! :/ Yet again, sony puts them in their place!
PS3 and PS4's digital content (games or DLC) have DRM, being online or offline. Such ignorance !!!
@US8F no it wasn't, the share plan would let you share a game with your friend on the other side of the planet. You can of course still accomplish this with PS4, provided you are willing to hand out your username/password
No. The feature that required always online was the "10 people sharing library" that Xbox One was going to have. You can still play your digital games on another persons Xbox One with your account.
So much mis-information, which highlights MS poor job of informing the sheeps, ermmm I mean customers. a) *NEW* always online was needed to enable trade-in, selling and gifting your game as it is with physical copies. How else is MS going to know and remove the game from your library? If that wasn't implemented, then you could gift/trade/seel away the game and keep playing it on your offline console b) *NEW* MS allowed you to instantaneously share your game with 10 other people regardless of what console they are on THEIR PROFILE, not the owners. c) *OLD* Sony allows you to access your game on any console by signing in to YOUR account only. It hasn't been clarified if this extends to second person yet. MS allows this exact same scenario right now on all your games pre-Xbox One on your existing Xbox 360. d) *NEW* the practically instant access and play while downloading in the background is on Xbox One and PS4 So this isn't new. What was new, was the trading, selling, sharing and gifting your game away was new and it is only possible if they have a check for it ever now and then, so 24-hour is actually reasonable. So again, THIS ISN'T new! The new is digital copies of games function almost identical to physical copies, allowing resale, trade, gifting and sharing. Right now, digital provides none of that!
@wishingW3L There is no magic involved. Instead of hating on a system try listen to what they are saying. The reason it is possible is because once you bought the game and loaded it to your console the ENTIRE game was also saved in the cloud. You would not be playing the game from your console rather the version in the cloud. Next try listening to the press conference instead of trying to make snide remarks.
Rofl I swear Sony just tossed this feature in all of a sudden just to spit in MS's face after removing the almost exact same feature. talk about rubbing salt and vinegar into the wound.
I don't mean to bring the Xbox One, but this just shows that removal of the share feature has nothing to do with required online check-ins. Just surprises me that there's a petition to bring back that Xbox One, when everything they promised is still very possible without those check-ins.
to play these games you will have to be online. so i dont think this debunks the online thing, the 24 hour check in was stupid but these are different things.
I'm not certain, as is anyone else here, about how Sony's version of this feature works, but from what I read, there is a possibility of not having to be "always online" for this feature. The way they described it didn't have a theme of "streaming". They simply mentioned that the digital library will be accessible to your friends upon signing in as you. This makes it closer to that of the gamesharing feature on PS3 than it does to the XBO. For instance, the XBO would require you to be online at all times while playing a friend's game, whereas the PS3 required the internet connection so that you can access and download the content from your friend's Store (obviously), but once it is fully downloaded and installed, you would've been able to shut your internet off completely and still play the game. As far as I know, the PS4 looks to do just that, only easier and faster, whereas the XBO wanted to have that feature but, somewhere along the line, Microsoft decided to remove it along with the "always online" feature and claim that both would be necessary to function.
MS promised this with physical discs and digital downloads. This feature, minus the play as it downloads, is already available on both current gen consoles. The Xbox one does this same thing as digital downloads don't need internet requirement because they are validated when you first buy them. All the people trying to badmouth Xbox One's ability to do this need to learn what facts are. The original implementation would make physical and digital buys act like this, but now you can only do digital, as how it has been on the current gen consoles and through steam the past 8 yrs.
@Cmk0121 I am not sure if you're being sarcastic or just plain dumb. You have to be online but you can pick your game and carry it to your friend as well, freedom of choice is the thing that differenciates from Xbox1.
@Cmk0121 It might be different for the PS4, but you don't know. With the PS3 you can play the game offline. You can have one account activated on any two PS3s and use any account to play that game as long as the account is on the PS3, you don't have to be logged in. So I could play, Dead Space 3 on my PS3 on my account while my friend is at his house on his account while my account is activated on his PS3 and we can both play online.
Im not sure but I think once you log in to your account on any PS4 you can play it while you download it. But if you decided to allow the game to complete the download before playing then you might not need online connection because the game will be on the hard drive. Not sure i might be wrong.
Wait! I thought this was Gaikai related but it's not. I have to say it: Your move MS.
Ms dosent like sharing, ms dosent want consumers to save money, ms dosent care about games or its consumers... Look at windows 8/:
"Your move MS". Lol. Sony is determining Microsoft policy this gen. =)
Ms is crap ps4 is the way to go next gen and even xbox fanboys know this.
The sharing feature most people are attacking was restricted to physical copies of games that, connected to DRM, would be uploaded to the cloud and shared. Digital copies on XB1 will have the same access as Digital copies on PS4. Licenses are tied to accounts, not consoles. Move account to friends PS4 or XB1, download the copy to said device and play. This article is troll bait and isn't anything tremendously unique to either console.
Wow. It amazes me how many people still do not understand the idea behind the online check ins and DRM. In order for the gaming industry to strive (and recover for that matter) companies need to MAKE MONEY. Yea you love all the free shit you're getting from Sony (lol) but in the end that will come back and bite you when Sony no longer has the resources to continue in the gaming world. GOD FORBID someone out there understand that in order for console gaming to survive it has to progress and the companies/developers have to MAKE MONEY!!! IT'S A BUSINESS YOU CLOWNS!
Well said, but take down a notch the offensiveness part.
So to make money you eliminate entire markets that do not have reliable internet and alienate most of the world? Makes sense...
And without preowned games, stores will shut down not only killing a large part of the industry but also removing the chance of impulse buys and free advertising these companies provide on a daily basis to all developers. Massive loss of a sales across the board for the sake of a couple of quid when they make millions anyway
When a company puts making money above customer service, they no longer make money. This is the oldest equation of business, and one that Microsoft has forgotten. Sony has not. 12
And guess what, you clown. They HAD TO CHANGE THIER POLICY BECAUSE PEOPLE SAID **** THAT. You want to make money, do it proper. I'll rob a bank soon, I HAVE TO MAKE MONEY. IT'S MY BUSINESS.
so to make more money than they already are, its ok to restrict your own purchases right. YOu no longer own Sh#* you only have permission to use it right? thats the best argument you can come up with, rich ass companies need more money? we the consumer need to always get the shi%^y end of the stick? never mind the fact that I paid $60.00 to own a game right, its best if I pay $60.00 on a digital DL that I will only have permission to use, so as long as I have an internet connection. Nevermind the fact that with digital DL the publisher is already saving money on manufacturing actual discs and shipping costs, yet still selling the game at full price right?