240°
Submitted by Lavalamp 416d ago | news

'Wii U Is A Truly Powerful Console, More Powerful Than 360 And PS3' - Trine 2 Dev

NowGamer: "Wii U 'is truly a powerful console' and 'more powerful than 360 and PS3' says a member of the Trine 2 dev team." (Julius Fondem, Wii U)

pedrof93  +   416d ago
At this point saying stuff like that doesn't hurt anyone. I mean 'Wii U Is A Truly Powerful Console, More Powerful Than One And PS4' Ok people would get mad.
zebramocha  +   416d ago
No they wouldn't,while no detail specification was given for the xbone,we know it's a leap over the 360,with wiiu everything is vague,there is tri core gpu an amd based gpu supposedly equivalent to a 4850 with shader model 4.0 and something similar to dx10.1.
#1.1 (Edited 416d ago ) | Agree(2) | Disagree(8) | Report | Reply
starfox79  +   416d ago
No the gpgpu is a custom E6760 confirmed m8,4850 was its power in 1st devkits,5th devkits were using a custom E6760, this is just what Iwata means by people like you spreading false rumours.......cpu is out of order,with edram cache so clock for clock it destroys ps4.
pedrof93  +   416d ago
@starfox79

It does ? Really ?

There is a spec that wii U destroys the PS4 ?
lol
n4f  +   416d ago
technically backward compatibility is a spec
wiiu play all last gen game, not ps4
so yeah there is at least one spec
#1.1.3 (Edited 416d ago ) | Agree(6) | Disagree(0) | Report
greenlantern2814  +   416d ago
well they dont say that because the wiiu is comparable to the 360 and ps3 but not the ps4 and xb1; which are its real competition.
which is part of the wiiu problem people keep comparing it to this gen not next gen.
wiiu is powerful enough for what nintendo wants it to do, and has a really good virtual console. too bad not enough people are aware of all the good things about the system. but know all the bad things about it
ShugaCane  +   416d ago
More powerful than 7 years old systems. Yay.
PopRocks359  +   416d ago
You know, I get pretty annoyed by this sort of reaction when the general consensus around here is that the Wii U is either on par or weaker than said seven year old systems.

Suddenly when someone claims exactly the opposite someone leaves this sort of comment. Make up your minds, people. Either you think it's on par/weaker or it's obvious it's more powerful. One or the other, not both.

@below

Okay, fair enough. You're right that I shouldn't have lumped you in with an unrelated group of people. My bad.

However I believe my point stands. Often you will see people jump at any opportunity to rant on about how weak Wii U is even compared to said old tech. Then when articles like these come out they change their tune and suddenly say "Pfft, it SHOULD be stroger," as if they had not been amplifying the previous rhetoric from the beginning.

Again, sorry for lumping you in on that. Just a mini-rant on my part aimed at the wrong individual.
#2.1 (Edited 416d ago ) | Agree(19) | Disagree(23) | Report | Reply
ShugaCane  +   416d ago
You know. I'm not "people" or "you" that you're mentionning. How do you know what I think of the Wii U in the first place ? Stop making analogies like this please. I have my own opinion, respect that.
#2.1.1 (Edited 416d ago ) | Agree(19) | Disagree(6) | Report
Rusty515  +   416d ago
All he did was state the facts. They're claiming that it's more powerful than 7 and 8 year old consoles. Are we supposed to be impressed?
Godmars290  +   416d ago
Its pointless to say when those systems have 1-2 more years of relevance, and the WiiU itself fails to show why its relevant to the PS4 and Xb1.
Root   416d ago | Bad language | show
I_am_Batman  +   416d ago
And I'm getting annoyed by statements like yours. You can't just gereralize different comments from different people and pretend that everyone has the same mindset.

Whoever thinks that the Wii-U is less powerful than the Xbox 360 or the PS3 in raw power is mistaken however Nintendo isn't exactly pushing the limits of their own hardware so we've yet to see what the console is capable of.
DA_SHREDDER  +   416d ago
@ Karmic Demon

Nintendo doesn't have nothing to prove, they just need to put out games like Mario Galaxy and a real next gen zelda to ease their financial woes, if they even have any? Right now the drought is due to their first party team working on said games, man just thinking about a next gen metroid makes me never regretting buying a WiiU. BTW, I will laugh my ass off if they put DS or 3DS games on the virtual console. That would shut everyone up. :P
#2.1.6 (Edited 416d ago ) | Agree(1) | Disagree(4) | Report
PopRocks359  +   416d ago
@Rusty and I_Am_Batman

Already apologized, so...

@Root

Haven't seen you in a while. Good to know you show up again just to complain about a comment of mine. That's not typical at all. /s

As for your "to the rescue" comment, I must have been totally "to the rescue" when I chewed out Nintendo in my own blog. A number of times actually.

@the rest

Like I said, I've already apologized to KarmicDemon, so no need to fuss about it further. It was not really an attack aimed at him, more so at the consensus of people who say one thing and then imply another. Shokio's made better points about it before in previous videos of his.
#2.1.7 (Edited 416d ago ) | Agree(7) | Disagree(5) | Report
Root  +   416d ago
LOL

How did I get done for bad language when I censored the word out...LIKE THE MODS TELL YOU TO DO.

N4G for you...when the mods make up the rules as they go along.
Cmk0121  +   416d ago
as to on par or weaker, i guess the point is it shouldnt be in the convo of being as weak or equal to 8 year old systems as its their next gen offering and priced that way. 350 for the system and its clunky as all hell. very limited spectrum the game selection reaches.
ABizzel1  +   416d ago
@PopRocks

See there you go :D

Only the ignorant believe the Wii U is weaker than the PS360. What matters most in a console are RAM and GPU, and the Wii U has more RAM (2GB vs. 512MB) than the PS360 and a better GPU (ATI 4650m) by comparison.

That being said it's not "truly a powerful console". Well I guess you can say it's the third most powerful console ever created, but the 4th (PS3) and 5th (360) are right behind them and yes they are 7 and 8 years old.

The Wii U has the advantage of newer tech, DX10 capable GPU, more RAM (although generally slower), and mastered/modified game engines all on it's side so games will look and run better on the Wii U then they did/will for PS360.

But the Wii U is not leaps and bounds more powerful than the PS360. PS4 and Xbox 1 are leaps ahead of the PS360. The Wii U isn't even a step ahead of the PS360 it;s more like a gentle nudge or bump.

Remember state facts and take the high road. Less aggression. :D
DA_SHREDDER  +   416d ago
Your sarcasm is well said, but at the same time you need to ask yourself, does nintendo really need to be stronger than what it is? I mean, what if they eventually bring cross game video chat? In a year or two they will optimize the OS and have even more room to play with.

@ Karmic Demon, opps wrong comment, look up
#2.2 (Edited 416d ago ) | Agree(2) | Disagree(3) | Report | Reply
ShugaCane  +   416d ago
If so, they have yet to prove that the Wii U will still be relevant, once the PS4 and Xbox One are released.
I_am_Batman  +   416d ago
In my opinion they don't need to compete with the PS4 and Xbox One in power however it means that they won't get a lot of 3rd party support again.
ABizzel1  +   416d ago
@I_am_Batman

Which is exactly why Nintendo needs to find a better middle ground, which the Wii U failed to do. They should have gone with an AMD Llano APU or Trinity APU (Trinity would have been best). It would have cost them more to produce, but they would have had a console that's more powerful than PS360 in all regards CPU/GPU/RAM and capable of running most 3rd party games when developers shift entirely to PS4 and Xbox 1.

($20 more for Llano)
($60 more for Trinity & 4GB of RAM instead of 2GB)

What's makes it so bad is all this was available to Nintendo since Llano APU's launched in January 2011, and Trinty launched Summer 2012 although production was in development and known about since CES 2012 for Trinity.

On top of that they could have still sold each console for $349 and safely made a profit. As a matter of fact the Llano model could even be $299 and make a profit, which goes to show there's no way on earth Nintendo can't cut the price of the Wii U dow to $249 - $279 and still make a profit (which they need to do).

I don't know what Nintendo was thinking, but they're feeling the hurt because of it. The good thing is the Wii U is actually fun if you play it, and the games look good enough.
PigPen  +   416d ago
More powerful then your brain, yay.
thezeldadoth  +   416d ago
ps4 and xbox one are claiming to be more powerful than 7 year old systems too....yay..

the old systems are what all of the new ones are comparing themselves to. isn't that part of next gen?
#2.4 (Edited 416d ago ) | Agree(5) | Disagree(6) | Report | Reply
PopRocks359  +   416d ago
lol That's not the same thing at all. With Xbox and PS4 it's to be expected. With Wii U it's a different story since up until recently we haven't really seen many devs (I think Shin'en and Criterion were the only exceptions) actually try to take advantage of the hardware.
#2.4.1 (Edited 416d ago ) | Agree(4) | Disagree(2) | Report
MizTv  +   416d ago
How about some games to show off its power?
HowarthsNJ  +   416d ago
Yes. Show us.
ABizzel1  +   416d ago
X
Need for Speed Most Wanted
Nintendo Land
Injustice
Mario Kart
Bayonetta 2
ziratul  +   416d ago
Anything more powerfull than last gen consoles is next gen console. Also, it's not all about power. It's about games + experience.
Mr_Nuts  +   416d ago
Then why have we not seen a game yet that looks better then something put on the Xbox 360 or even the PS3 (The Wii U's Last of Us). I mean they arn't even getting GTAV for example

By the time it gets made most of us will already be playing on our PS4's and Xbox Ones.
#3 (Edited 416d ago ) | Agree(8) | Disagree(10) | Report | Reply
Firan  +   416d ago
Because it's a new system and devs haven't mastered it yet like they have mastered PS3/360? You didn't see TLoU 7 years ago.
Mr_Nuts  +   416d ago
Yeah but if this is more powerfull then those consoles then games now should look the same or roughly the same as games such as Uncharted 2, Halo 4, The Last of Us etc. If this was last gen fair enough but the Wii U is next gen so they should be having better looking games then those we've seen with old tec
Firan  +   416d ago
You have a point I admit. However one could argue that Nintendo's 1st party devs are not used to HD development so that's why we haven't gotten a big release yet.

Monolith's X and new Zelda should give us a look what Wii U is capable of. Of course PS4/One will be more capable but that's another story.
jcnba28  +   416d ago
Because the system is only 7 months old as well as the fact that this in Nintendo's first HD system. 360 and PS3 launch games looked like crap. Do you not remember Lair, Perfect Dark Zero, Resistance, Heavenly Sword etc. etc.
#3.2 (Edited 416d ago ) | Agree(3) | Disagree(2) | Report | Reply
Mr_Nuts  +   416d ago
Look at my post above to Firan...those games looked like that because they were last gen

If this console is more powerful then starting games should look like games from the end of this gen
ABizzel1  +   416d ago
Because it's more powerful, but not a huge improvement in power. ALso few third parties take full advantage of hardware, which leaves Nintendo as the only ones who can prove the Wii U's power. But that's not going to happen for a while, because instead of preparing for HD gaming after seeing MS and Sony struggle early on, Nintendo was to busy rolling around in Wii money to notice. So now they're behind, and we won't see improvements until the nice batch of games come 2014 - 2015.

That being said there are games that show the power. Need for Speed, X, and Mario Kart are all great looking games with Need for Speed being the best version graphically on consoles, but again it's not a substantial difference, just better texture quality and lighting.
#3.3 (Edited 416d ago ) | Agree(0) | Disagree(0) | Report | Reply
jcnba28  +   416d ago
Nintendo doesn't make movie/games sorry. They make actual games with stellar gameplay.
WiiUsauce  +   415d ago
Monolith's X looks leaps and bounds better than TLOU or any game on PS360, so shut your face.
hatzwontfit  +   416d ago
Developers have gotten very lazy over the years. How powerful does a console have to be for you to make creative games? EA complained about lack of power but all of the games they showed at e3 looked pretty current gen except for bf4. I mean really, all the powere in the ps4/xbone and they give us need for speed and madden? I didn't see anything revolutionary from them
ABizzel1  +   416d ago
They don't want to make a creative game they want to port games across all platforms, which lazy or not is the best move financially.

And no one want to take a risk making a creative game on a Nintendo platform, with a low install base, only for it to fail in sales because Nintendo fans will only stick to Mario, Pokemon, Smash, and Zelda.

First and foremost Nintendo needs to get the Wii U out of the quicksand it's neck deep in, and start putting out a pool of first party games between this holiday and have the next batch of huge titles ready for the following holiday. In the meantime a price cut down to $249 - $279 will help sales, but it's best to wait until something early 2014 for a price cut, because the hype for PS4 and even X1 could overshadow them, and worse a PS3 and 360 price cut this holiday would hurt any move Nintendo tries to make.

It's going to be hard for Nintendo. PS4 and X1 are offering the most powerful consoles and core gaming, PS360 will always under cut Wii U in price and offer a similar performance plus better 3rd party support, leaving Wii U stuck between the two.
miyamoto  +   416d ago
'Wii U Is A Truly Powerful Console, More Powerful Than 360 And PS3' - Trine 2 Dev

Yeah but according to Iwata and Reggie that power is irrelevant and it does not matter at all.

http://www.gamechup.com/reg...

http://www.gonintendo.com/?...

http://nintendoeverything.c...

https://www.youtube.com/wat...
jcnba28  +   416d ago
So? What's your point?
Nevers0ft  +   416d ago
While we're making irrelevant posts... Oranges are orange and my dog just farted.
hatzwontfit  +   416d ago
And that game titanfall that everybody is going gorillas about looks like another generic shooter that looks like it could come out on xbox360 tomorrow. Actually I think it is gonna come out on 360. Debs need to step the hell up because I'm getting really bored with video games right now.
mj_msv  +   416d ago
Congratz on that, but honestly I would expect more out of the wiiu than beeing hardly more powerful then todays outdated consoles, when ps4 and xbox one is just around the corner, it will be a big gap again as always..
killerips   416d ago | Spam
strigoi814  +   416d ago
I agree Wii U is powerful. It has a lot of strenght to hold a lot of dust
deafdani  +   416d ago
Ok, that was funny. XD
WiiUsauce  +   415d ago
but it's much smaller than the PS4 which can hold more dust.
leahcim  +   416d ago
wiiU is doomed there is nothing nintendo can do to save their console.

I really think they are already creating a new powerfull machine to compete with the ps4
RetardedIceCream  +   416d ago
thats what people said about the 3ds, and look at how wrong they were
ABizzel1  +   416d ago
Because 3DS wasn't worth $250, just like Wii U isn't worth $299 or $349.
Cmk0121  +   416d ago
Dont think saying a next gen console is as strong as two 8 year old consoles is a good thing...
RavageX  +   416d ago
Here's why I don't see power or lack of it being a big deal.

A great game is a great game. I can go and play SNES games that are still great and fun.

Powerful systems are NOT a requirement.
cherbhy  +   416d ago
@RavageX I agree. Gameplay is what really matters. It's hard to demonstrate great gameplay when there are no games, but alas... we'll get a taste of what the Wii U can offer in that regard when Pikmin is released in a few short weeks. For now I'll play BLOPS2 and Luigi U till my thumbs bleed.

The whole "Who cares if it's slightly more powerful than a 7 yr. old console" argument- I don't really get it. I honestly believe PS360 will stay relevant for a number of years to come... so the fact the Wii U is more powerful does matter in some small way. In the large scheme of things Wii U games aren't going to be the typical FPS & AAA RPGs, Nintendo's going to put out their own IPs and eventually we're going to get an innovative game that's going to make heads explode. It just may take another two years.
killerips   416d ago | Spam
MetalGearBear  +   416d ago
Halo 4, The Last of us, MGS4, Uncharted 2/3, GTA V, Rage, RDR, GOWA said hi. Your argument is invalid.
#15 (Edited 416d ago ) | Agree(1) | Disagree(3) | Report | Reply
No FanS Land  +   416d ago
but it does seem to have shit development tools.
shibster88  +   416d ago
My electric toothbrush carrys more power than the wii u.
power = pc ps4 xbone thats power.
and of course the wii is power compared to consoles that are 6/7 years old, nothing to be proud of.
bit if we are looking at the gaming power or looks then the ps3 and xbox 360 kills the wii u and they are old lat gen consoles,wii u had no place in this gen what so ever
millzy102  +   415d ago
wtf are you chatting, do you know how to put a sentence or paragraph together. how can you say the Wii u is powerful compared to last gen consoles then say 360 and ps3 are more powerful. also the ps4 and Xbox one are only powerful compared to last gen consoles so it that nothing yo be proud of neither as many pc's are more powerful than ps4 and Xbox one.
_QQ_  +   415d ago
WOW my PC destroys the xbox/PS4, Good thing i have a wiiu,unlike the xbox/ps4 it isn't just a wannabe trash,desperately underpowerd PC with a brand name on it haha :D
BosSSyndrome  +   416d ago
This is old news.
MNGamer-N  +   416d ago
What world do you people live in? Or universe/dimension for that matter? Of course it's more powerful. Toothbrush? This is getting ridiculous around here.

Add comment

You need to be registered to add comments. Register here or login
Remember
New stories
30°

Saturday Spending Spree: August 30th

56m ago - Gadgets and Khajiits brings you the latest and greatest deals on tech and games! | PC
20°

PAX: Star Citizen’s Procedural Generation Explored – Interview with Chris Roberts

57m ago - GamersNexus: "Today’s focus is on the recent ~$41m stretch goal established by CIG: expanded proc... | PC
20°

Video Game Crafts ‘N Gear #76: Super Mario World SNES, Pikachu Army, Kirby Figures

1h ago - Video Game Crafts 'N Gear is a weekly feature wherein the spotlight is shined on the best custom-... | Culture
30°

XBA: Assassin's Creed: Unity Video Interview - Discussing New-Gen AC

1h ago - XBA: This year will see two Assassin's Creed games heading to market, with AC: Rogue hitting Xbo... | PC
Ad

Need Cash? (US Only)

Now - How would it feel to have your money struggles solved by this time tomorrow? We give fast loans from $100-$10,000+, and repayment terms up to 60 mo... | Promoted post
20°

PAX Prime: A “Fingers-On” Preview of Framed | TwoDashStash

1h ago - Framed, from Loveshack Entertainment, is a thoroughly unique concept, and that’s saying something... | PC