Petitioners are pleading with Microsoft to bring back restrictions that were originally outlined for the Xbox One.
Isnt it illegal to be this stupid?
As illegal as a Darwin award... And just as immediately self-correcting/punishing. edit: Sorry for any slowness on my part. This news made my brain turn off as an act of self-preservation. Or shattering of faith.
Some Xbox gamers are making the evolutionary step back into primates.
It must be PlayStation fans in disguise. I can't imagine anyone seriously wanting that
There isn't a facepalm epic enough for this. Even Tommy Lee Jones' Implied Facepalm isn't enough to describe the absolute mind boggling stupidity that this is. This is enough to drop the collective I.Q. of the world by at least 20 points. I can't believe that there are people this stupid who want a company to do this to them.
And I can't believe some people are so naive and arrogant that they pass their juvenile and uncalled for insults off as some sort of fact.. The more you speak, the dumber some of you get..
What's wrong with these people??? They act like they still can't buy all their games digitally. And not worry about discs or disc swapping. Cloud computing is still a feature. What do they want, family share plan? There's time I would gladly lend a game to a co worker, but that co worker is not close enough to me to be in my family share list. As a consumer I like to have choices in how I can buy my products. Sometimes I buy my books digitally, but it's never the same, so I always go back to reading in the old school paper way. I got a collection of comics which one day, I would like to give to my son. Got some rare comics in there also. If it was all digital, my rare comics are not rare anymore. I'm the kind of guy that still reads a newspaper, but also enjoy reading news on my tablet. I like to go to book stores instead of shopping on my kindle.... I don't know why we must stick with one or the other. Why can't we have the option for both? Stupid fanboys, trying to ruin consumers options to buy. I like both digital and physical. They both got their pros/cons. Where do I sign a petition to take out Kinect? That's what I would want.
that thing is coming back, with or without petition. but i have to admit this is the funniest thing i've ever heard
"It must be PlayStation fans in disguise." Like we care. Even with there being so many arguments against Xbox this time there will always be those that will buy it no matter what.
It's obviously a trolling petition. I lold at the "major nelson impersonator" And if you actually go to the petition everyone signing it are saying they are doing it to help the ps4. Though it being a non official petition set to 500 signatures its obviously fake started for gaming sites to make hits. Probably that trustful unbiased real gamers site playstationlifestye.com or whatever they call them selves. Woo PS4!!! Is the best!
Oh this is just crazy. LOL
And some wonder why PS fans act the way they do...Really, did someone really do this!!!
I bet most of them are developers, lol. Or Sony fanboys trolling to the infinite degree...
@QRPHE If I typed that same comment I would of gotten banned for a week.
Can someone tell me what kind of world do we live in? I don't know what to believe anymore. No facepalm no matter how dual or how big hands are can ever wipe away this nightmare Xbone has brought into the world. Don "Xbox Destroyer: Mattrick look at what you have done! You want to turn everyone into a brain dead lunatics.
Where's my Captain Picard meme?
I think these people must just really want those features that MS took away along side the massive DRM issue. You know, the family sharing and stuff. Well petitioners, if you want those features, ask for em, don't go and ask for the restrictions back. That's stupid.
My only logical explanation is that these fanboys bought into the MS spin about their DRM so hard that when even MS was forced to change their ways, their little delusion was shattered and now they're running around confused and asking why.
As an online gaming platform, MS implementation was the least restrictive considering you could: * share your digital library with 10 people instantanously * trade-in your digital library * give/sell the digital library away For that to work, MS needs to be able to remove the game and know that it is removed (not just trust you) and that is why they need the 24-hour check-in. Tell me of any other platform that gives you that sort of digital freedom? I cannot think of a single platform that does! Not even Steam which is the holy grail of digital games! Heck, even on Steam a large number of games are not playable offline. This was the future, and now we are back in the physical disc stone age. We had options, an always online console with Xbox One and physical disc with PS4 and Wii U. Now the loud minority whiners eliminated the option for everyone by peeing in the pool they weren't going to use anyhow!
^^^ ***"As an online gaming platform, MS implementation was the least restrictive considering"*** But it was the most restrictive in regards to physical games. Some wanted more freedom with digital content at the expense of physical freedom while others feel what we have in place now is better than what MS was offering. ***"Now the loud minority whiners eliminated the option for everyone by peeing in the pool they weren't going to use anyhow!"*** Microsoft didn't listen to people's complaints, but rather listened to their wallets. Do you think MS would have removed all of their restrictive polices if preorders were on par with PS4 or out pacing it? If people complained, but preorders reflected the opposite of that MS would have kept their XB1 vision in tact. Microsoft's main reasoning for removing it was to remain competitive. Those that didn't want a restrictive console didn't preorder it and now you are blaming them for that? What happened to if don't like it don't buy it, huh? Well, people did just that and MS was forced to decide on whether they should wait until the XB1 hit the mass market to see if the masses would accept XB1 before deciding to reverse their policies or if they should reverse it now. They untimely concluded that the latter was best for them. It is what it is. This is how business with competition works. In the end, the consumer will dictate what the future is! As of right now most people still buy physical discs. This may change next gen however with every game having a digital version day one now.
Between that and idiots applauding Nintendo's previous decision of blocking Smash bros streams from EVO , i dunno wich is worse ....
@Outside_ofthe_Box: The not buying was a result of the bashing it took, with so much mis-information spread. Obviously so much whining without nothing what it is going to ultimately affect sales. Granted MS didn't help themselves, but this was definitely the media mis-reporting and the whining talking. People was fine with digital media for ages, under much more restrictions. It's sad and I will probably buy my games digitally, but won't be able to readily share it. Thank you whines and the media for pissing in the pool you weren't going to use!
***"The not buying was a result of the bashing it took, with so much mis-information spread. Obviously so much whining without nothing what it is going to ultimately affect sales."*** Oh so now the "minority" can affect sales huh? What happened to the "hardcore minority scream the loudest", but the opposite happens as the world keeps spinning when it comes to actual content sold? What it ultimately boils down to is that most didn't want a console that mandates internet for *any* amount of period of time and didn't want their physical games anymore restricted than what is present today even if we get more flexibility with digital content as benefit. There is no way you can say that the media misrepresented those key concerns. And yes, people are fine with the way digital content is handled currently which is why nobody is really losing sleep over the benefits that could be had with Microsoft's original policy. What people really didn't want was for discs to be more restricted than they are now. That's what people were upset about. You also seem to think that the only people that weren't going to buy the XB1 in first place were the ones complaining. If all Xbox gamers were okay with MS' original policies surely XB1 would have sold a lot more initially.
Dude. Never go full-retard.
@nukeitall Your comment borders on senseless. You claim that a 24 hour check in was necessary for a digital library but the fact that it is a digital library means that you have to be online to utilize any of the features you mentioned. That renders a check in unessesary. Would say that you forgot about how ms was going to limit where you can trade in your games but I think you remember. I think you remember how they attempted to tell people who they can lend their games to and how many times. Unfortunately there is a cheaper more powerful alternative with none of the restrictions and people were flocking to it. The bottom line is that ms changed their tune because of the bottom line. The console was not going to be profitable.
When I hear of something like this, why does it remind me of something from that 2006 movie "Idiocracy"?
"YES MICROSOFT, PLEASE GO BACK TO TAKING OUR RIGHTS AWAY!!!!!!!" It's pathetic really. They're calling it Steam for Xbox. Steam actually lets you play offline for however long you want though.
That's not true. Steam makes you sign online in order to switch to online mode. You can't start in offline mode
^ Well that's granted, how else would you download games?
@Hufandpuf If you don't have a connection you can in fact start in offline mode. Though eventually the user would have to go online depending on titles. I remember during Hurricane Sandy my internet was out for two months. I was able to stay offline(in Steam) the entire time and play most of my games. "Steam makes you sign online in order to switch to online mode." Makes sense since you're most likely trying to access online features if you're signing in. XBL and PSN also does this if you are trying to access online features.
Not completely true. You have to sign in online first and MANUALLY switch to offline mode before you're able to play offline and not to mention there are random bugs that cause games to stop working offline after two weeks (it doesn't always occur but there are many reports around the internet and it affects a large number of people).
M$ is coming up with a new bundle, it's called the XBox One Lube Me Up Edition. You'll get everything you normally would plus the DRM! For the low, low price of 599! Tagline for the bundle is "Get ready to bend over!" :p
Actually steam doesn't only force you to login first to go to offline mode, but also requires re-authentication every 10 days or so. The actual differences between the XBone and steam is that trading in and selling physical copies of games was still allowed (under some restrictions), and sharing your library with family was also possible. But Steam is indeed one great example of the transition to digital is greatly benefiting the entire PC ecosystem. This was the best of both worlds for people who wanted transition do digital with added benefits: The people who didn't want that and remain attached to physical discs could have simply got a PS4 instead. It's not a worse console, now is it? But instead we got an overwhelming backlash from many, including trolls who never intended to purchase the console anyway. And now we're left with basically two consoles working the same way. Way to ruin choice for everyone.
@Commander_Shepard, for one Microsoft was not taking anyone's rights away they where trying to pave a new lane into a digital future by trying something that has never been done on a console before. Plus why do you think it's pathetic when you see a group of people want something that you don't like and was ( in my opinion) a good idea, that ether wasn't explained properly or some gamers are just too slow to comprehend. On top of the, with the X1 you still had all of the benefits of physical discs that you could still trade in if you wanted too. Like they said it was steam for Xbox the only difference was on could be played offline and the other couldn't. They both required you to check in every once in a while to authenticate and make sure you wasn't installing the game and then trading it in a GameStop for a cheap discount( if you got it new) or free( if you got it used). Also that system was put in place for security reason just in case dumb ass people ever decided to try to hack their systems. Overall, I hope they do bring it back. But not make it all or nothing. I see people all the time bitching about freedom of choice and I think Microsoft should give it to them. What Microsoft should do is on day one when people connect their systems to the Internet for the first time they should let the people decide then. If they want the "ORIGINAL" planed policies for the X1 they should have the choice to NOT except the day one reverse policies. If the people don't want the "ORIGINAL" polices then they should have the choice to EXCEPT the day one update and opt out. GIVE THE PEOPLE WHAT THEY WANT WHICH IS THE POWER OF CHIOCE MICROSOFT!!!!! you will be surprised at how many people really want this.
I don't understand why they can't do both. I tweeted this to Major Hyrb... On 360, you could choose whether to install a disc. Why not make One have the option to enable/disable 'license lock'? License lock require the disc to enable and would bring back family share, online check-in, and all the other features we love to hate. Releasing the license would require one last check-in after which, all shared games would be invalidated and users can do whatever with the disc like every other console. I believe they can allow this on a disc by disc basis and have an added option to release all.
If MS did another 180 with the Xbox One, should we call it the Xbox 360? Now wouldn't that be confusing!
They're turning us right round, baby, right round, like a record.
We called it the Xbox 180 when they turned around on their DRM policies. If they turn back the same way... it's the Xbox One. Holy crap. It almost seems planned if I say it like that.
No its not illegal but someone needs to make a law for it pronto
Its not the DRM they want, its the features behind it. But how can anyone be this dense is absolutely beyond me. Wow, just wow.
I dunno, steam actually works pretty well and the money goes to the people behind the games and not gamestop undercutting new games by 5$ with used copies, where all the dough goes to gamestop. But what do we care...*watches anothers developer file for bankruptcy*
Nope, Bush was president twice!
Don't mess with Texas.... *Heh heh* Sorry, in my mind that was Will Ferrell's Bush voice. Lol
Even worse Obama was elected pres twice. Triple the national debt anymore times much? Lol and promote "free health care" when it actually means your forced to buy and show proof on your taxes starting next year. http://www.realtorsinsuranc...
@jeffgoldwin, JunioRS101, et al - Are we really going to get into this in a pleasant forum about games? Fact is, the Federal Government sucks and has sucked for over a century, if not from the beginning. The national debt is only one of their many transgressions of your rights.
What? ... I mean, what?!
The answer to this is easy. The people who are supporting this petition are the ones that believe that the family share plan would allow any one on the list to play their games without any restrictions. This is the reason why they want the old DRM system back. But, the family share plan was nothing more than a glorified demo plan and it was confirmed by a Microsoft employee in their blog. Source: http://pastebin.com/TE1MWES... "Anyone who you deem to be family had access to these games regardless of where they are in the world. There was never any catch to that, they didn't have to share the same billing address or physical address it could be anyone. When your family member accesses any of your games, they're placed into a special demo mode. This demo mode in most cases would be the full game with a 15-45 minute timer and in some cases an hour. This allowed the person to play the game, get familiar with it then make a purchase if they wanted to."
mastercornhornholio sstop spreading lies,it was made very clear it wasnt just demos http://www.ign.com/articles...
@shadyiswin: You have to ask yourself (baring in mind the MS meltdown at the time) why didn't MS mention it was full games at the time? Think about it. The internet and every publication is against you. You have to do something to change that, even if it's only slightly ... But you hold onto this piece of information until AFTER you drop it?! Come on now, smell the roses. :)
There are people on there just to make the Xbone flop cause they know if they go back to the DRM stuff, thats probably going to happen.
Stockholm Syndrome is one of the reason I could think of. Another is some people wants to be different or be non-conformist.
If I were Don Mattick I would withdraw my resignation and demand a raise and a big fat bonus :)
where is a gif?.....I need a gif to show the stupidity of the people in the partition.
Well you're not in jail yet, so I guess not.
The only thing I liked was the family and friends being able to shre their games for free between 10 people.
Read what MasterCornholio just posted a few comments above. They're actually almost exactly like the PlayStation Plus 60 minute trials... There is no such thing as free.
^^^ Well that's just stupid then.
no read my post instead this is how simple things get spread that are untrue,it was not only demos. You took his word in his post,when i googled it for a link,it was an overwhelming amount of facts from microsoft themselves and game developers saying it was not just demos,it didnt need to be a demo they would be making the money back with all the digital downloads and resell fees charged to gamestop,bring back DRM :D,kill gamestop.
Doesn't matter to me. I won't be buying one either way.
So after everyone complains about the atrocious restrictions on the X1, people want them to go back to the original plan? God I don't want to live on this planet anymore.
It's totally outrageous to think different have different opinions.
I don't want to live on a planet where one consumer thinks that where they put their greasy money trumps the wishes of the company who actually breaks the sweat to design and make the product.
cool. one less apponent in the world. i didnt have an issue with the drm. i never share games. always buy new and am always online. teenagers may find it horrid but im 37 and loaded so i give a fuck how?
The only way the original Xbox One plan would have worked is if it was a direct knock off of Steam. No one cares if you are "37 and loaded". That makes you sound like an arrogant douchebag. Not everyone has the luxury to buy new games, a decent internet connection, and pay the $500 for a console. It's anti-consumer and frankly they're easily the best form of PS4 marketing right now. DRM being good as of now? Get real.
Not in Mericaaah !!!
i actually have no words for this.
You have 6 of them :/