After President of Nintendo Satoru Iwata admitted that Nintendo’s had difficulty coping with the transition to HD, the last thing we expected to hear is – get this – apparently, the Wii U is easier to develop for than Nintendo’s previous consoles.
well slap 6gb more ram in it and let's go!!! ALso allow streaming at EVO..
That's nice that it's easier to develop for, but it won't matter if support doesn't increase.
You hit on the problem right there. Being easy to develop for is great, but if the install base isn't there, or if they aren't buying games then there's a problem. When you see company's like EA, the undisputed kings of porting to every device conceivable, turning their noses up at your platform it sends a strong message to other developers. I really hope this turns around. It's not like the Wii-U isn't a capable system, and certainly as a core gamer I was happy to see the inclusion of a controller I'd actually use in the pro-pad or whatever it's called, but with the PS4 and Xbox One on the horizon, what chance does the Wii-U have. And only $50 difference from a PS4?
I'm waiting for the explanation that shows how that's Nintendo's fault, and not the fault of the companies that choose not to support it.
@Enigma It's up to console manufacturers to ensure that their console is appealing to third parties. Third parties are nomads. They go where the money is. It is NOT up to them to ensure success of the console.
@SilentNegotiator But they'll turn around and s*** out piss poor ports and mobile phone based crap to make a quick buck. We don't agree on this. And we never shall. The 3rd party folks DESERVE to share the blame.
Easier but twice the man power sounds about right,less optimizing with wiiu using more modern features.
I love ya Miyamoto, but that's difficult to believe when I just read that developing in HD on Wii U requires twice the manpower. Something which the team was unprepared for. Just get back to releasing the Wii U's first great game of the end of the year we're square, savvy?
Yeah, this response doesn't necessarily coincide with the previous story about Wii U development.
well he said it required twice the manpower. Which is normal due to the transition from non-HD to HD. But maybe the Wii U's coding language has been simplified, making it easier then ever.
There are 2 different things he is talking about. HD games : Aesthetics complexity goes up, thus needs more artistic manpower. Gamelogic complexity goes up, therefore needs more programing manpower. Console: Interfacing with the console = easy. So the statement that it's easier for Nintendo to work with the hardware over previous console has nothing to do with the complexity of a game project.
I think it's one of those longer/harder things. The console may be easier to develope for, but doing everything in HD is simply more time consuming. Thus in order to cut down development time they increase manpower. At least that's what I'm thinking. Either that or he eaten one too many mushrooms, if you know what I mean. EDIT: should have scrolled down a bit more lol
It really starting to smell of desperation at Ninny HQ these days.
You mean Sony HQ right. Nintendo has money in the bank.
Yeah, keep reachin' Shiggy.
These are just words. We have to see the pudding, but knowing their track record they're going hard after the PS4 and Xbox One. Nintendo plays the biggest mind games in these console wars. Sony has a trap card the PS3, let's see how the Game Of Console War Thrones begin.
Nintendo's Wii U doesn't stand a chance against the PS4, let alone XBox One. Not even in the same league...
How is that even on topic? Don't let hate and stupidity consume you. You will have many regrets as you grow older and even more hateful.
Theres no hate or stupidity in my post. I stated a fact, not opinion and not a fanboy statement. The Wii U is ALREADY getting mocked and even the Devs are starting to shy away from it.
Ok, you said that the Wii U doesn't stand a chance against the Xbone and PS4, and that they're not even in the same league. That is not a fact.
Honesty I think the bad sales is just a result of nintendo's cockyness.. lol at them.. Who is looking forward to EVO??? yeah!!!??
You're talking crazy. You need your face painted and sould be given some big shoes, a wig and a cherry nose. The Wii U is more powerful then you think.
"Nintendo's Wii U doesn't stand a chance against the PS4, let alone XBox One. Not even in the same league..." How is this a factual statement exactly? This sounds pretty subjective from where I'm standing.
Something can be easier to develop for but require more resources. More resources are required because of the time for higher quality assets. While the actual coding is easier for optimization.
Atari not impressed with Wii U http://www.xbitlabs.com/new... Dice Not impressed with Wii U http://www.nintendolife.com... 4A Games Not impressed with Wii U http://www.arabicgamers.com... Now...you tell me, how the Wii U is going to hold a candle to the PS4 Or XBox One...when even the Devs are disgusted with it. Come on...tell me.
And there are also a lot of examples of developers that are impressed with the Wii U. What's your point? Do I have to provide my sources, or will you just ignore those as well, troll?
Really? I dont see you posting any links to developers who have anything GOOD to say about the Wii U. LOL. I posted MY evidence...where's yours? Also, I think youre using the word "troll" in the wrong context. All im doing, is proving a point...to which YOU are doing a very bad job of invalidating. LOL. I guess that makes me a TROLOLOL. xD
Well, here's one since you apparently don't know how to use Google. http://www.joystiq.com/2012... This is Crytek talking about how CryEngine3 "runs beautifully" on Wii U. Other devs that have praised Wii U hardware include the lesser known devs Shin'en, Frozenbyte and Image & Form.
I never intended to search for developers advocating the Wii U. I was leaving that to the stragomccloud stooge. The burden of proof was on HIM...not me. The point is moot, regardless. The Wii U has already had a hell of a lead over the PS4 and XBox One. By the time Sony and MS launches, the Wii U will have been out for about a year. Thats ONE YEAR's experience over the competition...and it's still not making any headway or big splashes. Wasnt there an article that said even the Vita was beating the Wii U in sales? LOL. If you think the Wii U can beat the PS4 and XBox One, let alone hold it's ground as decent competition and make a solid mark as a next gen console...youre delusional. ^_-
Almost one year and Nintendo still hasn't managed to take advantage of that with the Wii U ;)
"Wasnt there an article that said even the Vita was beating the Wii U in sales? LOL." That was a fanboy statement if ever there was one. So not only are you incapable of acknowledging any sort of middle ground, you resort to gloating about sales for a platform that has done slightly better than Wii U and is still presently being eaten alive by the 3DS, its more direct competition. If you want to talk sales, here's the rundown. Vita and Wii U have basically gone back and forth and only after the Vita's price cut in Japan. Vita is at about 4.5 million units with Wii U trailing behind somewhere at around 3.7 to 4 million. This is also considering the fact that Wii U has not been out for even half as long as the Vita. Couple this with Nintendo actually producing games for the platform and what do you think will happen come the holiday season? I can assure you Nintendo will have much more to advertize than Sony will on theirs (in fact, Sony is primarily pushing the PS4 right now which will most likely outsell the Wii U within the first couple of months given the current trends). And unless Sony drops the Vita's price before the holidays, they are going to have a hard time convincing western audiences to pick up a Vita when it's almost the same price as a Wii U. "If you think the Wii U can beat the PS4 and XBox One, let alone hold it's ground as decent competition and make a solid mark as a next gen console...youre delusional. ^_-" Somehow I find this statement incredibly ironic. Good day to you.
You sir is the smartest on this thread.
Not only is WiiU not in same league.....Iwata said as much when he said "we're not going to compete with Sony or MS concerning online gaming. They have 7yrs of experience." I'm paraphrasing from an interview before WiiU launched.
So they're not even going to try?
So why did Pikmin 3, Wonderful 101, Wii Fit U, Game & Wario and just about every other first party game got delayed. Also, saying Wii U takes double the manpower to develop and then say it's easier than ever is a little inconsistent.
Two different things, if the Wii U was more difficult to develop for these games would have taken even longer to develop for.
Am I the only one who knew that. That was talked about before the Wii U launch. A couple of devs was quoted in articles using dev kits about how easy it was to port games to the console. Enough of that Nintendo, where are the games?
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