The yen has strengthened against the dollar in recent times. Costing Sony an estimated 496 million dollars in losses. To stem the tide Sony is aggressively pursuing production cost reductions.
With this weeks VG numbers (which aren`t 100% on) the PS3 is putting some serious distance between them and MS worldwide, this is WITH 360 cutting it`s price in EU, which only makes it worse.
If they do it NOW, that gap will continue to grow at a monstrous pace, given the games that are near completion. It would be turning into a "landslide" by Xmas.
its more effective for them to cut it by 100$, and at this point its a lot, but we know that now the ps3 is costing less than 400$ because end of last year they said it cost them around 400$ but now the blue ray won the format war and prices of it also decreasing and also they will or already made 65nm RSX chips(which was 90nm in Christmas time), so i think ps3 40GB cost around 350$ and by summer there will be more exclusives on the shelf's for ps3 so a big price cut will have a significant effect! plus i heard that this year or early next year they will make 45nm chips for cell and RSX, if thats true we can expect ps3 slim with the price cut! i rather see 100$ price cut in summer than to see 50$ now and another 50$ in winter!
sorry but , in all honesty, anyone that takes VG chart numbers seriously is about the stupidest person ever. all there numbers are completely made up , since you apparently havent figured it out. i stopped clicking VG charts since thy reported 300k in sales for mass effect when the community manager for bioware reported they hit a million after 2 weeks.
What kind of site is Horny Melon? What a wacko name.
As for the dollar-yen, I read yesterday that the dollar gained on the yen. I wonder if the dollar will ever get back to being the currency of choice? It's horrible to see how weak it is now against the yen and especially the euro. I think Sony can find a lot of ways though to bring down the cost of manufacturing the PS3. Will there soon be a PS3 Slim? Technology changes so fast now I won't be surprised if Sony does find a way to combine a lot of parts in the PS3 and make a slim version.
Kotaku. But in all honestly the name comes from an actual fruit. And you can blame the choice on drunk grocery shopping and branding rule #2 If all the good content oriented names are taken, choose something brandable.
The Bluray drive.
With Bluray`s victory, production costs are guaranteed to drop quickly. The more MAINSTREAM Bluray becomes, the cheaper the PS3 will be to produce. It`s as simple as that.
Will you listen to urself...lmao.Man your so full of it
If you`d like, PLEASE inform me.
with more than "your full of it"
i think the most expansive parts r the following in order 1: Cell(it has 7 cell CPU's at 3.2GHz) 2: blue ray drive (its expansive and new tech) 3: RSX (which i think GPU's always expansive) 4: the rest :)
this gen is diffrent, its NOT about selling the most consoles anymore. the wii has proven this. consoles DONT sell games, the audience of people that own them are the deciders. ps3 has split its audience into 2 types, blu ray owners and ps3 owners. blue ray owners dont buy games and will only hurt its games/console ratio. shure they are gonna start flying off shelves , but that dosent mean its for the right reasons.
The price of the Ps3 won't be dropping for a while. Y: A) blu ray won B) there are actual "system sellers" coming out every other month starting this month. (GTa4, MGS4, Little Big planet, KZ2, Resistance Fall of Man 2) If anything Dora Sony might make another PS3 Sku that is even cheaper than the 40 gig. However seeing that the 80gig sold way more than the 40 gig, this might not happen. By the laws of Supply and Demand, PS3 has had Demand finally keep up with supply.
sorry omegasyde but none of those games on that list are system sellers exept GTA4.. they might be good but they arent gonna sell systems. and seriously why does everyone keep saying KZ2?? that game is clearly NOT coming out this year. they havent shown anything about it ever since that E3 thing last year. if the game is suppost to come out this year dont u think they would of released a trailer by now? (not the FAKE one from 3 years ago)
then gears of war 2 is not coming this year same goes to resistance 2 and motorstorm 2 halo wars! u just got PAWND
lol! yea im shure that GDC demonstration of unreal 3 engine was nothing.. nobody saw it running eh? halo wars is old news, theyve been showing gameplay about it since x07 alan wake also. youtube for it and youll find it. splinter cell 5 also.
so how bout them delayed ps3 games? just about every ps3 game coming out this year was a delayed game from last year. kz2 is more or less gonna be a flop. its defenetly not gonna match the hype.and either way, killzone 1 suckd ass. what makes you think theyll make a AAA game this time around? just cause the graphics? just watch
GTA4 will be the best game on ps3... a game thats superrior on 360.
We'll see about that....... MWAH-HA-HA-HA!!!
So I don't know if its ALL that bad. I mean its bad, but hopefully if the US economy can show some recovery by December. If thats the case, blu-ray, the PS3, and huge software sales from first party titles like GT5P LBP and RFOM2 will heal losses from earlier in the year.
Not in our wildest dreams. The consumer is 75% of GDP here. The consumer is buried under piles of debt, stagnant wages, and homes losing value. The Fed and Gov are trying to fix this without addressing the consumer issues. It's like trying to fix a flat tire by changing the oil.
"PS3 dont even need a price-cut" - ps3 fangirls
ma'am, at the current price, it is selling the xbotplzfixme world wide. pwned, alcaponedya
Until SONY goes 299.99 they will never be at a good price and even that is steep. 249.99 and 199.99 are primetime prices. at 299.99 I will pick one up.
I agree but you do get a bang for your buck for a $399 ps3. I presume when bluray players get cheaper you can bet the ps3 is going to drop in price. The economy sucks right now in NA. I didn't mind paying $500 for my 60gig ps3, i am glad i got a 60gig b/c they are now gone. She still works like brand new, except she isn't as shiny as she used to be. There should be a place where you can take your ps3 to get it to look all nice and shiny, a ps3 wash preferably.
Well people pay those prices for iPhones, PDAs, and PCs with less functionality than the PS3 so it really isn't that steep of a price. A price drop is probably going to come around the winter holidays, but it's really annoying to hear people keep on saying "I'll get it when it hits $X"
I am telling you the price will drop. If itn't I will use a axe to cut on PS3. I believe PS3 MG4 bundle for Xmas at 375$, and 40gb at 300$. They already have smaller chips for cpu and gpu, that is where the price cut will be.
By the way the 15millions console before the end of the 1st quarter din't happen, cause they din't price-cut already, not close to 12 millions. And they are really behind in US.
not too soon i think they are doing very good, and with the still relatively high price- they are slowly recovering the losses they made from when the production costs outweighed the gross profit besides they have too play their cards right- they have to hit the cut at such a time, that it will make the PS3 seem irresistible to everyone, but mainly the PS2 owners that are patiently waiting for sequels to their favorite PS2 games it may seem like the launch of MSG4 seems like a good time, but that will be a huge money-making time and cutting the price wont help that much- people who really want to get a PS3 for MGS4 will get one anyway i predict september, to coincide with fan-favorite SOCOM and big hitters like Resistance 2 and Little Big Planet- taking control of the christmas sales rush
Very true in the US the cost of living has went up significantly. Gasoline is at record breaking $4 a gallon. In all honestly I believe this is causing some of the major inflation.
All manufactures are feeling a pinch not just Sony. Unfortunately in the US if the government needs to offset the deficit they increase minimum wage and devalue the dollor.
In the case with the PS3 the product is a flat $399 and $499. If the inflation outpaces manufacturing cost it'll be hard to reduce the price. Normally the cost of technology decreases faster then inflation but seeing how poorly the dollar is it's unlikely that things will balance out when the bring "price cut" up.
Tell me about it. Hopefully we get our troops out of iraq soon to reduce the cost of war, its getting ridiculous.
Don't blame the country's downfall on Iraq. Blame the Country's Leaders. One last thing, A vote for McCain is a vote for George Bush. IF McCain gets elected I am moving out of the U.S.
Haha i feel ya brotha. I prob will move to europe seeing as thats where i was born. I hope obama becomes president and it would be cool if hilary becomes vice president. Iam glad bush is going bye bye. McCain and bush are friends and they support one another so you def. are correct about if you vote for McCain you technically are voting for bush.
would make PS3 fly off the shelves
why cut the price when your outselling your main competitor worldwide.
I do see a price cut coming but it wont be like the MS price cut in that it wont be made from desperation. Sony will cut 50-100 bucks off the 40GB around Oct this year maybe. My bet is 50bucks for black friday and 50 more bucks the same time the following year
That Sony's price cuts/sku changes weren't desparation? I got my PS3 in February of 07 for 600 bucks. Now, in 2008, we find some for at least 400. Don't believe for one second that if the PS3 was flying off of shelves back then, that the price wouldn't still be 5-600 dollars.
In the US PS3s already go for the equivalent of £200. I paid £425 (of course that's including our hefty 17.5% value added tax) for mine a year ago, and seriously if they went for £200 over here I don't know if any gamer _wouldn't_ pick one up straight away. Seems yanks are such cheapskates wanting a price cut again lol
as a true red blooded american with a home i see my money flying out of my pocket daily...gas is crazy...im happy the weather has warmed up because i needed a break from my monster gas bill
This is what happens when you elect a BIG OIL man for your prez based on the word of god. BUSH#43 will go down as the most harmfell prez ever. Middle class is taking it up the butt
They lost money the first year. They are in business to make money. The will sell the PS3 for a profit this year. And will never sell it for a loss again. Why would you sell something for a loss if your market share is growing? DUH?
plz the PS3 is outselling the 360 at it's current price why drop the price so early in the year...wait until the big hitters arrive in the fall... MGS4+GTA4 bundles will do the job for now...
faith in Metal Gear. I love the series, like others, and it will be a day one buy for me no question. But we can't just expect for it to move a bunch of consoles like its the second coming. This isn't GTA, this is Metal Gear. Its an acquired taste!
Didn't the last one sell about 3 million or so worldwide? And the PS2 install base was already huge. I'm sure we can assume a good portion of buyers already have a PS3 right? I've got mine. Why buy a bundle when you just need the game? But who knows. Maybe it will attract a lot of potential buyers. Either way, I'm doing my part. I'll be playing me some MGS4 no doubt.
great points...........especially the one about mgs3 selling so few considering the huge installed base at the time of the ps2. Bubbles
They desperately need a price cut. The xbox is now under £150 and GTA is out in a matter of weeks...
Problem is, Sony are not M$. They're pockets arn't deep enough to survive this intact. Sony really are struggling...
HA HA HA HA!
I if any price drop will happen this year it will be when resistance2 hits. They will put in the new 45nm chips IBM just finished making and will probably drop the price another 100 dollars if they do. Unless they add bigger storage space and even there product to around 350 but 300 would really be good for sony to get down to.
at 400, with blu-ray, its a great value. Actually, it was a good value when it was released, although it was very expensive. They are in a good position as long as customers know what they are paying for. However, at some point they will want to cut prices to stay competitive. Right now, they are competitive. But once Microsoft Finally gets to 199, will the PS3 still be at 399? I wouldn't think so. But we'll see.
Microsoft on the other hand definitely needs price cuts. They're biggest advantage is price. And considering their lack of tech compared to the PS3, they should do whatever they can to make sure that they distance themselves as much as possible from the PS3 in price.
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