Could this be the beginning of the end?
I know people will loose their jobs and I'm very sorry for that but after the whole dmc thing they brought it on themselfs. The only person to blame is Tameem Antoniades Well least we'll know dmc will never get a sequel
you also have Capcom to blame no matter how much you used to love the company.
It's hilarious in my opinion. Ninja Theory gave fans the finger, and fans gave the finger back. Now Ninja Theory is paying the price for their arrogance. Well deserved, I think.
Should've just made Heavenly Sword 2. lol
Those guys have been so arrogant towards PS3 and Sony post Heavenly Sword and the funny thing is that HS is the Ninja Theory game that sold the most. Now go back to Sony and make Heavenly Sword 2
Don't think negative. ... and yes, DmC is an awesome game.
Looks like it is the end for Ninja Theory. That is what you get for running your mouths and making mediocre games.
So you think negative ? Well, I enjoy almost every games, so ... good for me and bad for all that people who prefer to hate a game without ever trying it ... And NT make mediocre game ? You guys love to hate. It's so shame ...
"You guys love to hate." And you guys love to support crap that gets bombarded with negative reviews by the community solely to have a sense of difference from the regular crowd. See, you are not the only one who can end up reaching to some conclusion by reading one sentence someone wrote.
Well Tameen did say "I don't care if it sells a thousand units or two million." Even went so far to called the fanbase a "demographic that doesn’t exist." Well the fanbase showed Capcom and him with their wallets and the game sold/shipped under 1.5million copies. Don't get wrong the game was good but it was how the developers(specifically Tameen) handled this. Imho DMC:DMC never really felt like a reboot. At best it felt like some story in a alternate universe. Did the series really needed a reboot? There was still a lot left to be told.
As a long time DmC fan I was upset about the change of the character but I still enjoyed the game and think it was a good game with very interesting art design.
@Sonic200 --- Heavenly Sword 2 would have guaranteed sold more.
DMC: DmC was just a bad idea handled badly.
there were better ways they could have handled this, but it felt like they forced it on us. There's also the trash talking you simply can't take back once is out to the public.
i thought the game was pretty good.. was it really that bad? maybe they shouldnt have called it Devil may cry and thing may have turned out differently ... or was it just shit to u guys regardless
That it was called DMC when its more a clone, basically was made because Capcom drove out its original dev while still exploit the IP, reboot it with Western audiences in mind when there really wasn't anything wrong with the series, is what made the game "bad". Ninja Theory's initial arrogant insults towards fans as well as earlier series entries didn't help either.
DMC Devil May Cry was an awesome game..but the problem was DMC wasn't ready for a reboot...we don't even know who nero really is and what happen to Dante after Devil May Cry 2.
DMC 4 was half a game, because Capcom cut a ton of content that was supposed to be in it. That's why it doesn't feel very fleshed out.
On top of it, Kamiya wanted to make the game but Capcom didn't let him. He could have evolved the franchise way beyond DMC3 but after the first DMC game Capcom took it off his hands only to give it to a mediocre developer to ruin it and then pass it to Ninja Theory for a mediocre reboot. The DMC franchise was doomed from the very beginning by Capcom itself.
I kept an open mind, and enjoyed most of DmC. But the truth is that was not what people wanted. I disliked DMC4, despite the awesome gameplay mechanics, I was very disappointed with the game in general; specially with Dante's character. It was bland, generic, and plain out cheesy. Reboot Dante was better approached, IMO. I just hope good stuff comes out of this, Capcom should just fucking call Platinum Games already, although I doubt Kamiya would jump at the offer right away...
I thought the same too... Dante's character in dmc4 was cheesy. In dmc3 I didn't mind him being cheesy because he was young...but since he was older looking in dmc4..I didn't like that.
That game was pretty polished, the gameplay was very smooth. DMC4 was clunky compared to the reboot. These guys just need better direction.
I'm not sure what you think was clunky in DMC 4. The combat was some of the best in the series, especialyl Dante's style. The backtracking and story content, is where Capcom cut a lot of content from.
"DMC4 was clunky compared to the reboot." This is a joke, right? Except for the cut amount of cut content, Devil May Cry 4 was a great game and it was leaps and bounds ahead of the overly simplified combat of DmC.
that's a shame because this was a very good game if you weren't constantly looking through hypocritical rose tinted glasses, if you ever called the new dante emo while defending these hair styles http://images5.fanpop.com/i... http://media.animevice.com/... which looks drastically similar to this http://images6.fanpop.com/i... http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-a... http://imalbum.aufeminin.co... btw, they do look drastically similar http://fc03.deviantart.net/... then you are a hypocrite nostalgia fanboy, don't ever complain about companies not trying new ideas again when all of you whine so badly, and even to say, "oh but they insulted us" is hypocritical because you children sent death threats, hate mail, and negativity to anything and everything that had to do with this game, this too "oh but it's nothing like a devil may cry game" if that were true this wouldn't exist http://www.youtube.com/watc... and neither would these http://www.youtube.com/watc... http://www.youtube.com/watc... or this http://www.youtube.com/watc... so yes, once again, thanks for holding gaming back yet again fanboys, you can go back to whining about companies not trying new things now smh
Holding gaming back? what makes you say that? First of all the original Dante was no "Emo" he was way too happy and jovial, also simply wearing Gothic attire does not make one an "Emo" Secondly the new DmC brought nothing "new" to the series except for a very linear platforming mechanic so that's hardly a reason for the franchise to go on as is. In the end the fans spoke with their wallets, most people didn't like the new direction NT was taking and that's that. But hey, if you enjoyed the reboot then fair enough but clearly you're in the minority otherwise the game wouldn't have flopped so bad.
-new dante didn't have a care in the world -dmc4 didn't add anything significant but a rehash of dante and mroe moves, DmC was the first devil may cry game where you could wield every weapon in the game at one and use them all in a single combo as well as being able to transfer pause combos into other weapons -it also was the first game in the series where the environment was a factor during gameplay and wasn't just a static battleground -DmC sold 1,1 million copies and is on capcom's platinum game list, if that's what you call a flop then i guess dragons' dogma also flopped because it sold 1.3 million copies and is also on that list, if the game truly was a flop then NT would've closed down by now and would'nt be working on another project
@Crossing Eden. DMC4 sold more than DmC:DmC with a significantly less install base. Dragon's Dogma was a completely new IP and still sold better as well. That speaks volumes for their PR campaign. Whether DmC:DmC was good is completely irrelevant if it under performed so heavily.
So your saying a downgrade, with a terrible character,with a company that insults the fans,a company that insults the original creators,a company that insults tge character of dante,and a company that just insults everything about the franchise in general deserve to be forgiven, and again your tge only fool still arguing about tge hair newsflash the main problem wasnt the hair dude, your the real fool holding gaming back. As for the hair,no matter what when you reboot,or remake something,the character should still show that they look like the character they are based on,new Lara croft still looks like Lara croft,every incarnation of the prince of persia looks like a Persian adventurer,rick Taylor,freddy kruger,link etc...besides you know that had the same drastic character design happened to kratos,Mario,or master chief people would flip,cause lets not forget link got a cel shaded design and people cried about it,same thing for the prince of persia be got a cel shaded design and people cried about it and those characters werent completly different,it was the sole fact that they were cel shaded(which is a stupid reason not to play a game).
DMC:DMC was a flop regardless how well receive it was. Capcom themselves admitted this. They said it failed to capture Eastern gamers attention. Well sure it was on Japan's top chart but the sales were less than half of that of DMC4. Capcom also said delayed response to the expanding digital contents market"; "insufficient coordination between the marketing and the game development divisions in overseas markets"; and a "decline in quality due to excessive outsourcing." NT is a independent game company, which I am pretty sure staff numbers are small especially after their parent company Argonaut Game defunct. My guess for the only reason they haven't closed yet is because they might have some money left over from deals they made with Sony(Heavenly Sword), Namco(Enslaved) and Capcom(DMC:DMC). If Sony had owned them we most likely would've seen HS2. If Namco had own them we would've seen them shutdown because Enslaved only manage to ~460,000 copies. Capcom probably would had combined them with another one of their studios or just shut them down like Namco probably would've done. Why would DMC:DMC be considered a flop while Dragon Dogma isn't? Dragon Dogma manage to sell 1million copies only after one month of its release. DMC:DMC just finally manage to sell 1million copies almost three months of its release. I am pretty sure the budget DD was lower given that it was a new IP. While DMC:DMC budget was higher given that it was a game from a known series.
This was inevitable... Sorry but NT's attempt at rebooting DMC was not what the franchise needed, the game flopped hard just like many fans of the original games knew it would. I only hope now that the franchise isn't shelved for good, and if we ever do get another reboot of DMC the devs should stick closer to the series roots IMO.
this franchise is dead. Ninja Theory killed it.
If Ninja Theory killed it it was a very weak franchise... not being able to cope with one "failing game" is kinda sad. So maybe they made some mistakes... shit happens. Working on franchises like this never works out. Didn't work out for Silent Hill, didn't work out for Resident Evil (Operation Raccoon City) and it didn't work out for DMC... It's your own minds for hoping that a western creator would do copy paste that's to blame for this. I went into DMC open minded and thought it was an okay game, I had fun...
I doubt DMC is dead for good, but then again Capcom have been sitting on perfectly good franchises like Breath of Fire, Onimusha, Power Stone and Mega Man for a long time. So yeah it's kinda up in the air right now.
The sales flopped. Unfortunately , this will affect the developers.
Microsoft recently learned this as well, Don't screw the hardcore fan base over. MS did it with DRM and Ninja Theory did it with an un-needed reboot. When will these companies learn... We know what WE want... not the other way around lol
I doubt it's NTs fault, Capcom will have gone to them and told them to do a reboot.
I think it was NT doing. Did you see the manager from NT? He had the same hair and clothing style as Dante. They took it on as a passion project. Capcom thinking DMC would sell more as reboot (to appeal to wetern gamers) let them do it but they didn't tell them too. Thankfully Last gen (I believe) taught the eastern market to stick to what they are good at while we stick to what we are good at. Thus producing games like (dark souls and Dragons Dogma)
Given all the crap Capcom was doing this gen I think it was Capcom telling them to reboot. Just look at what they did with Resi trying to turn it into CoD. Clearly NT made some stupid comments, but I still think it's Capcoms fault. That's the crap about Japanese companies this gen. Capcom, Square and Konami have a policy now of "let's be more western and screw what got us rich before". If Capcom just outsources franchises and let the companies do what they want than they are a very bad company. Dark Souls was due to Sony being smart and taking risks and Dragons Dogma because of the success of Demon/Dark Souls.
@gamedebater Demon/Dark Souls were developed by From Software, not Capcom. Frankly, other than maybe Street Fighter 4 AE and dragon's dogma they've made piss poor games all gen.
I hope this doesn't mean anything because we are also talking about the creators of Heavenly Sword here... Still one of the best games I played on the PS3. Sony owns the rights but I would love to see what NT could do with Heavenly Sword on PS4...
And Enslaved. I have to give them credit that I enjoyed the last 3 games they made.
Awesome new! I hope they all end up unemployed
What sad way to talk. Pretty sad.
Nah,we all think it but only a few of us have the balls to say it.No collage for their kids. XD
@Pittoo : I'm sad for you too :(
you're a terrible person and you're pretty pathetic, sitting behind a computer screen hoping that people lose their jobs because you didn't enjoy their video game, you don't deserve to work and need to grow up ASAP
Biggest a-hole of the day award goes to this guy right here
The game was really mediocre and whoever did the writing for that game needs to be fired
I used to work at NT. An old colleague just posted today on Facebook with a link to some jobs they need filling. So, I don't think this forum thing is anything.
Thanks for giving us some very good games despite what others think here :)
Welcome, I was only there for Heavenly Sword though.
I thought the game was great, it captured everything the last few games had. The action and controls were brilliant. With that being said.... with it being so close if not actually the same as the originals why did Capcom or NT feel the need to reboot the series? They could have easily plugged in the established characters and kept the story with minimal changes. The action was good as I've stated before but one thing it did lack was the wacky over the top action scenes that only the folks now at Platinum games could deliver. It's a shame that Capcom has a grudge with anyone who leaves their studios. They could have easily given the series to Platinum.
I enjoyed DMC
damn sad new DmC was pretty awesome. Was hoping for a sequel to it.
Im OK with it being over for them. The way Tameem Antoniades acted towards the fans of DMC, even if you think they were being whiny, was not called for. Anyone who acts like that towards the people who would be buying your game, deserves to be shown that the fans have the power.
It's sad because allot of people are losing there jobs but I seen this coming way back that there ego would be there downfall. I seen it the they were talking about dmc saying don't care if we buy their game.
Now that that's over time to get to work on Kung Fu Chaos 2 for XB1.
Capcom needs to make a game based on Sparda
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