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Xbox One DDR3 RAM vs PS4 GDDR5 RAM: "Both Are Sufficient for Realistic Lighting"

GB: "We had a chance to speak founder and COO of Geomerics Chris Doran, whose company created Enlighten which is used for creating lighting for games like Battlefield 4 on the subject of - what else? - next generation consoles. Specifically, we compared the Xbox One's 8 GB DDR3 RAM and the PlayStation 4's 8 GB DDR5 RAM, with 5 GB and 7 GB allocated to games respectively, and asked Doran which is a better solution for crafting realistic lighting."

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dedicatedtogamers1053d ago

I'm not interested in what will be sufficient NOW. I want to know what will be sufficient 2 years from now, 4 years from now, and beyond that. PS3 had weaker RAM and a weaker GPU but it ended up pulling ahead in graphics due to Cell.

The PS4 is superior in - literally - every conceivable hardware aspect compared to Xbox One. The bigger pool and unified pool of RAM (which the X1 does not have) is going to play a big role in the future, especially as PCs continue moving in that direction. Twice the output pipelines and 30% more shader cores in the GPU may make a differences, too.

MikeMyers1053d ago

Since when did technology matter so much? Oh yes, ever since the PS3 came out even though the PC showed drastic improvements. Didn't seem to matter during the PS2 era. I guess when you control the market it's ok but when that market becomes much more competitive now it's an issue. Odd.

Even if both systems were 100% equal you would not bother with the Xbox One. So why worry about any advantage the PS4 may have? It's irrelevant to your debate when you picked your side a long time ago, before any specs even got leaked.

PiperMCFierceson1053d ago SpamShow
NatureOfLogic1053d ago (Edited 1053d ago )

Bottom line and fact, Xbox One is inferior hardware for a higher price.

@ Mike "Since when did technology matter so much?"

Since Xbox fanboys like yourself were claiming that the next Xbox would be more powerful than PS4. I remember reading comments that "Sony can't afford better hardware, they're going bankrupt." I guess a lot of Xbox fanboys are in shock that hardware corporation actually released better hardware. Now oddly enough, only teh cloudz seem to matter.

dedicatedtogamers1053d ago

"Since when did technology matter so much?"

For how long have you been a gamer? Technology has always mattered. You think the 16-bit Genesis compared to the 8-bit NES didn't have any advantages? You think the SNES's hardware didn't have any advantages over the Genesis? You think the PS1's disc drive didn't allow games that were impossibly expensive on the N64?

Technology always matters. Power always matters. While it does not - alone - determine the winner or the best games, it's also not a non-issue.

creatchee1053d ago

@MikeMyers

"Even if both systems were 100% equal you would not bother with the Xbox One. So why worry about any advantage the PS4 may have? It's irrelevant to your debate when you picked your side a long time ago, before any specs even got leaked."

This encapsulates the fanboy in a nutshell. It is not enough to enjoy the products that they choose to buy - they must seek out a competing product and come up with reasons that their product is better. Finally, they disparage that other product and anybody who decides to buy it.

I will never understand that way of thinking. If I buy a fast car, I simply enjoy the speeds it provides. I don't look at the other brands and say "theirs isn't as fast, so I'm going to belittle anybody who dares buy one of those brands."

Fanboys can't just enjoy the ride - they have to tell you how crappy they think yours is because they think it will make theirs better than it actually is.

PLASTICA-MAN1053d ago

Lighting doesn't need so much memory to be good hence why Geomerics Enlighten was used in a wide range of games for this gen. Only static things need so much memory like textures or static polygonal models (like buildings) which need massive chunks of data, soemthing like Lighting and especially next-gen will be fully dynamic in most of the times which requires CPU and GPU power not RAM (well maybe for the colour of the light and some collatreal effects). That is why we may see almost the same Lighting engine for both consoles but on PS4 we cna get better tecxtures (especially when it comes to exclusive titles), also the new revision of Unreal Engine 4 (unlike this gen) may be better on PS4, since it totally dropped SVOGI for some background boken lights (which are like textures) so, we may see more "theoretical" lights with UE4 on PS4.

OrangePowerz1053d ago

Speccs mattered during the PS2 era, but the competition that had stronger hardware didn't have enough games. In general for third party games it won't have a huge impact anyway, you won't see a big difference between the consoles.

MikeMyers1053d ago (Edited 1053d ago )

@dedicatedtogamers
"For how long have you been a gamer? Technology has always mattered. You think the 16-bit Genesis compared to the 8-bit NES didn't have any advantages? You think the SNES's hardware didn't have any advantages over the Genesis? You think the PS1's disc drive didn't allow games that were impossibly expensive on the N64?"

But how does any of that apply to the Xbox One and PS4 Ram differences? It doesn't. You are trying (desperately too I might add) to make this into some huge difference. It isn't there, much like it wasn't there with the Xbox 360 and PS3. That didn't stop the fanboys from going on and on for over 7 years now did it? So what you are essentially saying is expect another 7 years or so of this constant barrage of the system I like better is more powerful nana-nana-na-na nonsense. We've come to a point where graphics are going to be beautiful on the Xbox One, PC and PS4. With richer worlds and bigger worlds. With online gaming getting bigger thanks to dedicated servers and the cloud. More advanced as well where that data can be collected to create better matchmaking and do things like learn how you play with games like Forza 5.

This isn't even in the same league as the Wii was to the PS3/Xbox 360. We are already seeing games like Forza 5 run in 1080p at 60fps while Driveclub is trying to reach 60fps. This is the start of the new generation and you're already dismissing the Xbox One as a next gen. console. What a joke. All one needs to do is look deep into your profile and they will see this same attitude carries well before the Xbox One.

@creatchee

"I will never understand that way of thinking. If I buy a fast car, I simply enjoy the speeds it provides. I don't look at the other brands and say "theirs isn't as fast, so I'm going to belittle anybody who dares buy one of those brands."

Fanboys can't just enjoy the ride - they have to tell you how crappy they think yours is because they think it will make theirs better than it actually is."

Bingo!

This is what I will never get, this need to validate ones purchase. I've bought Playstation consoles ever since the first one. I loved the hell out of it with games like Ridge Racer, sports games from EA, fighting games like Tobal and all of that. How come I didn't turn out to be the hater? One who has to attack the competition every day to make me feel better about the upcoming PS4? That's what this guy does and a few others. They go on and on and on. Writing blogs, telling everyone how bad and evil Microsoft is even when they have a choice to buy something else. This guy even went as far as saying the Xbox One wouldn't even allow used games before they dropped the DRM restrictions. It was going to allow used games, just in a more controlled environment but people like him have to always dramatize and sensationalize everything. All for attention. Now they dropped the DRM for disc based games and they still can't stop talking negatively about it.

It's time for these people to move on. They're credibility was gone long ago and the reason they are still relevant here is because this site heavily favors one userbase and nobody can explain why. Nobody can explain why the PC, Wii/WiiU, Xbox, and handheld forums pale in comparison to the activity of the PS3 forums. How is that possible to have one system that sold less than 80 million units be more popular than all of those others combined? Since when has this place been the isolation of Playstation fans or are they like this everywhere? Every competitive market has fanboys but it just seems like Sony fanboys dominate, are the most aggressive, vocal and the least likely to play nice with others.

sAVAge_bEaST1053d ago (Edited 1053d ago )

A: since home systems were introduced to the market.

webeblazing1053d ago

im confused with the constant flip flopping on this site. one week the tech doesnt matter the next week it does.

im starting to think that people on this site agree on a subject when its to their advantage

MysticStrummer1053d ago

"Since when did technology matter so much? Oh yes, ever since the PS3 came out even though the PC showed drastic improvements. Didn't seem to matter during the PS2 era. I guess when you control the market it's ok but when that market becomes much more competitive now it's an issue. Odd.

Even if both systems were 100% equal you would not bother with the Xbox One. So why worry about any advantage the PS4 may have? It's irrelevant to your debate when you picked your side a long time ago, before any specs even got leaked."

Translation : "I can't come up with a valid counterpoint, therefore the argument is meaningless."

Technology always matters on a level playing field, and so does price, but the timing of the release means a lot as well. XBox, the first of it's name, released well after PS2 had started to become the juggernaut it did. Funny how back then developers had no problem showing one box's power over the other's, but now it's all about "parity". Of course back then, MS had the most powerful console. An odd coincidence indeed.

GrownUpGamer1053d ago

@ MikeMyers

"Since when did technology matter so much? Oh yes, ever since the PS3 came out even though the PC showed drastic improvements. Didn't seem to matter during the PS2 era. I guess when you control the market it's ok but when that market becomes much more competitive now it's an issue. Odd.

Even if both systems were 100% equal you would not bother with the Xbox One. So why worry about any advantage the PS4 may have? It's irrelevant to your debate when you picked your side a long time ago, before any specs even got leaked."

Well said. 1+ Bubble. If i can only give you 1 more bubble.

Cmk01211053d ago

More over to your point the Xbox ( original) was more powerful than ps2 and Sony fans didn't care then whatsoever. Xbox had hard drive ps2 did not. Xbox live way better than ps2 online network etc... Nobody cared ... Ps3 arrived and all folks care about is specs

b3ast1053d ago ImmatureShow
loulou1053d ago

come on n4g, you should have a betting system on here... where we can bet on who is the first to post, who has posted etc..

the same people everytime.

it aint even worth posting on here now. it is the same idiots writing the same stuff, in the same blogs over and over and over again

Qrphe1053d ago

So the 7th gen was your first game correct? Technology has ALWAYS mattered as far as consoles go, even as far back as the days of consoles such as the Atari 2600 and NES or personal computers such as the Commodore 64.

nukeitall1053d ago

First of all, people buy consoles to enjoy content, not because it has 8GBs of RAM, 8 CPU cores or whatever number for whatever specification you can come up with.

The bottom line is, the only things that matter is features and content period.

Then Wii was the weakest console and it won by feature. The Xbox 360 didsn't have the bandwidth or flops of the PS3, but it dominated the US market and is set to overtake the Wii in the UK.

If consumers care about specs, they would have gone PC a long time ago, but ironically gamers got sick of specifications and jumped over to consoles.

This argument is meaningless, from justifying whatever side they are on the fence. In the meanwhile, I'm just going to enjoy the games.

Stil working on Black Ops 2 campaign and have no idea what the story is about or what the heck those missions that has limited time on are.... someone?

n4rc1053d ago

When someone seemingly spends most of their time defending a product rather then enjoying it..

It makes me wonder how they really feel about it.. Is trolling ms more fun then gaming on a ps3? Or did you get hooked on it during the massive downtime? :P

YNWA961053d ago

Mike, your logic is correct, but not for here. Apparently, a couple of years ago, Sony fanboys got a hard time here and they have never forgotten. I own both current gen, and have preordered both next gen, but the fact I do not like the bashing on MS means I get hammered here. This is not a place for just simply liking games on any system. I guess my silence a couple of years ago when I did not have an Ipad, which makes all this easy for me now is a reason for punishment, disagrees and less bubbles. But a bubble for you anyway, I see you are not stupid, and will not miss out on great games simply because it is on another system. Hell, even play 360 on a Bravia.... Not good enough...

medman1053d ago

NatureofLogic makes a very valid point. I myself fully expected Microsoft to throw money at the problem and ensure they would have technical superiority this upcoming gen, but they went in a completely different direction. I was surprised, but pleased, at Sony's direction and the specs under the hood. I'm skeptical of any cloud processing being touted by Microsoft at the moment, I can't see how that is going to make up the gap in the specifications, but we shall see. One thing I know for sure is Sony's excellent first party studios aren't going anywhere, and they have delivered most of the best games of this current generation. That fact alone secured my preorder for the PS4. Everything else Sony is bringing to the table is just icing on the cake.

QuickdrawMcgraw1053d ago (Edited 1053d ago )

What's wrong with picking a side,then using facts to talk up your favorite console.You do it Mike as do many of us on this site.So maybe just come back with a smackdown when you can.And when someone is right admit it.I just read a 2 thousand word essay from you running down the PS4 and sing the praises of the Xbox1 on the new cloud systems.Stop acting so holier then Thou.

fr0sty1053d ago

The Xbox fans of today sound like the Nintendo fans of 2006.

fr0sty1053d ago

Mike, you are trying (desperately) to downplay a rather large performance advantage that PS4 enjoys. You continually keep ignoring the GPU advantage and only focus on the RAM (which is a big advantage in itself). Yes, the RAM has 150% more bandwidth on PS4. Yes, it is all one unified pool that makes programming far easier. However, there are also twice as many ROPS, and 50% more compute units in PS4's GPU, in addition to having 4 CUs that are specialized to aid in compute functions and a direct bus to the CPU to enable them to better aid the CPU.

The PS4 is more powerful than the Xbox One, and by a pretty good amount. You trying to use a couple of launch titles that are still in development as proof of otherwise does not hold up. It's a well known fact that most of the PS4 developers were unaware of the additional 4GBs of GDDR5 until the very last second, so Evolution Studios is likely just recently getting their hands on the full spec 8GB devkits and therefore may not have had enough RAM using the old 4GB spec to handle a 60fps game using their engine. It's also well known that Drive Club is only about 35% complete at this stage, and most likely has not entered the optimization phase where final frame rates are set and such.

The difference is far wider than what we had with Xbox 360 and PS3. 360 had slower but unified RAM, and a more powerful GPU. Multiplats benefited from this, which is why those games often saw better textures of higher resolution. Having one pool of RAM and 3 symmetrical CPU cores makes getting that power out much easier. When devs took the time to make Cell perform at it's best, we saw a performance advantage on PS3.

This time around, however, we have 2 nearly identical CPUs, but the RAM and GPU both heavily favor the PS4 in performance. This isn't just some minor "on paper" difference. A far more powerful GPU paired with a unified pool of RAM (360's advantage over PS3) is going to produce real world advantages, not just on paper. There's no other way to cut it. You may not see many launch titles take full advantage of that power, due to the fact that they have far stricter deadlines to meet and half the time are coding on incomplete hardware with their devkits, but the advantage cannot be denied.

YNWA961053d ago

@ creetche... You described who there now? Xbox fanboy... Sony fanboy or both? What about nintendo boy?

awi59511053d ago

Im so glad i dumped consoles to build a monster gaming pc. Im going to upgrade just a little for BF4. Since the witcher 3 is on consoles now they wont kill PC's like witcher 2 did. A mid lvl card will max it now so i dont have to worry about that game anymore.

Jaqen_Hghar1053d ago

A man doesn't think hardware matters. Sony has the best first party games (though Nintendo is right up there too) and has the same 3rd party support as Xbox. Xbox hasn't shown a man that they support a console all the way to the end (look at exclusives this year) and they have less in the pipeline for the first year of One (20 vs. 15). A man thinks it's a nice bonus for PS4 to be more powerful, smaller, and less expensive with a better online service (+ gives free games and PSN works fine without a paywall and had dedicated servers on many games THIS gen so with a paywall a man can only imagine how good it'll be).

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thechowderp1053d ago

ever since the wii came out it showed specs did matter to make a game playable. almost every game on the wii was awful mainly because of the motion controls and horrible specs

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bootsielon1053d ago

Actually it has always matter and the PS2 was cutting edge when it first came out. Whoever says that the PS2 was "weak" is really ignorant.

NeoTribe1053d ago

Since when did technology matter? Are you serious? The whole reason to buy a new console is for the improved tech you moron. Xbots are the most ignorant of people. Ps4 wins, fact.

360ICE1053d ago

If Xbox One was more powerful, I'd probably go for both. I probably still will, if Project Spark turns out nicely!

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Gaming_Guru1052d ago

At: MikeMyers

With the PS2 era yes the XBOX was more powerful but they were both on the same media disk. So the difference would be two classrooms the same size and one just has more people in it, but still teaching the same thing. In the end, it didn't matter because the same kind of games could be made for both.

Appose to the PS3 vs XBOX 360, more power and the 50GB blu-ray disk makes a difference. That's like taking university classes vs college classes, same idea different level of knowledge.

Lastly, the other comment is assuming the person chose a side based on bias when the statement itself it bias.

nukeitall1052d ago

@Gaming_Guru:

Delusion is a major problem on this website, especially when you talk about blu-ray as the differentiating factor for gaming on Xbox 360 and PS3.

That had materially almost nil impact on games, beyond them having multiple discs on Xbox 360.

Please point me to where it drastically mattered beyond replicating the same data repeatedly on the same blu-ray disc, because the drive was too slow to keep up with DVD.

Beyond higher video encodes, it had no impact.

Gaming_Guru1052d ago

Some of the titles that utilize the space on the disk on Blu-ray:

Infamous games
Uncharted games
Metal Gear Solid 4
Killzone games
MotorStorm games
Resistance games
Gran Turismo
God of War games

Blu-ray won't have an impact on multiplatform videos games since the goal is to meet where similar hardware can achieve.

H0RSE1052d ago

Superior hardware only goes so far.

PS3 boasted about its hardware superiority, yet it was harder to develop for which led to many games actually looking worse on PS3, and some games being virtually (or literally) unplayable.

There is also the cloud service for each system, which will be a key factor in the experience players get out of online games, and perhaps even single player games if they are still connected to the internet.

The bottom line is which system developers can better optimize their games with what's available to them.

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no_more_heroes1053d ago

Oh, so the games don't matter as much then?

HammadTheBeast1053d ago

I'm sure we all know which company has proved itself for games this Gen.

The Last of Us rests my case.

NatureOfLogic1053d ago (Edited 1053d ago )

Games do matter, but we need more games like this.......

http://steviegamingworld.fi...

Tr10wn1053d ago

"I'm sure we all know which company has proved itself for games this Gen.

The Last of Us rests my case."

That is someones opinion, i watch the whole thing on my friends house and i gotta say i enjoy it but not as much as i enjoy Bioshock Infinite and its probably because of the zombies/infected w/e they are or people claim they are is way over used and i'm tired of it but it was a good zombie game not like the other 99999999 games before it.

jeffgoldwin1053d ago

"The PS4 is superior in - literally - every conceivable hardware aspect"

Spend a few hundred more and get a gaming pc and then you can sing your joyous songs to all the heavens how you have the most powerful hardware of them all. You can get 5 times the output...etc, etc and what not.

It still won't get you laid, but I mean its something, right?

nick3091053d ago

You can get laid for less than a price for a pc or a ps4. :D

dedicatedtogamers1053d ago

I already own a gaming PC. And I already get laid on a regular basis, so I don't know what your point is.

Clunkyd1053d ago

If PC is the best place to play games, why isn't it mainstream enough like consoles are?

starchild1053d ago

Because consoles are easier to use and therefor they have more appeal with casual gamers and kids and teenagers that don't have the knowledge or money to build or buy a gaming PC, even though the cost of ownership over time is lower on the PC.

But just because consoles are more mainstream doesn't make them better, nor does it mean that they make more money. The PC gaming market is larger than all three consoles combined.

wishingW3L1053d ago

I can't play Uncharted, God of War or most Metal Gear games on the PC. PC is only good for slightly better looking multiplats and other games I don't care about like Arma or F2P games like League of Legends.

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Tr10wn1053d ago

"slightly better looking multiplats"

Yup enjoy those slow loading textures pop ups those 30 fps on a resolution lower than a crt monitor shadows that look more squarish than minecraft and the graphics of.... oh wait you said they are slightly better graphics, i'm guessing you are blind so idk if you can read this and idk why i even bother.

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aceitman1053d ago

whats weird is when they said the 360 had 512mb and the ps3 had 256 it was a big deal and all praise the the 360 for having more ram , but now the ps4 has more its not a big deal and it doesn't matter , more is better . hell even with less ram the ps3 pulled out some major graphics in games , thanks to the cell imagine what will happen with 16 times the ram. booom baby , more games coming nd are going to make jaws drop.

jeffgoldwin1053d ago

Theres a certain tipping point where it doesn't matter if it's 4, 8, or 64gb ram. Currently pc games use no more than 4-6gb ram tops for 1080p. And that's with windows OS which is a resource hog.

Can't really compare apples to apples with pc to console, so it's just a rouge reference. Have to wait and see what how everything translates out.

PSN_ZeroOnyx1053d ago

Actually PS3 has 512 as well. However it is split in two with half dedicated to the system and the other half for games. Lots of unified b GDDR5 RAM is exactly what PS4 needed.

When Sony asked developers what they wanted in the next generation it was unanimous they wanted a powerful GPU and lots of unified RAM.

Kryptix1053d ago

It is true that total RAM doesn't matter, with all the compressing techniques you can fit a lot with only 5 gigs. What's going to make a difference is the GDDR5 vs GDDR3. A review was done here where two of the same video cards were compared but one was 512MB GDDR5, the other was 1 gig GDDR3, and though lower...the one with GDDR5 was 4%-13% much faster.

http://www.hardwaresecrets....

The GDDR5 is a quad core versus the GDDR3 being only 2 cores. Meaning that bandwidth speeds can be twice as fast than the GDDR3 if optimzed correctly. Bandwidth speeds will effect frames per second and other graphical performance. This is why a few developers have stated that the Xbox One will need adjustments if it wants to run 60 frames per second like on the PS4. Truth be told, the difference might not show at the start of next gen but developers will eventually figure out both console's true potential and PS4 having 33%~50% better specs...it might look just a little better than the Xbox One.

And @Jeffgoldwin
Stop sending me multiple PMs then blocking me after each one...shows how butt hurt and how much of an ignoranus you are. lol

avengers19781053d ago

From the games that have been shown for both systems, it looks like both are going to be able to put out some very great gaming experiences, with much better graphics. But like the man above said, I'm more interested in what's going to be down the road, after all this is a 5-7 year investment, so I hope both companies continue to push the developers, and there systems to make games get better and better over time

mcstorm1053d ago

Finlay someone who is not a fan boy but a fan of gaming. For me the start of this next gen is about the Wiiu and Xbox one and I will pickup a ps4 12 months down the line but that dose not mean I think one is better than the other and think all 3 will have must own game but the game I want the most so far on out of what I have seen is forza 5 so that is my reason for getting the one over the ps4 at the start.

We should buy consoles for the games we want not because people say we should just like anything else in life.

Anthotis1053d ago (Edited 1053d ago )

"Both Are Sufficient for Realistic Lighting"

...but one is still superior.

edit - "...but one is still superior."

Sorry, i meant four.

Gameratheart1053d ago

Lol... That's funny.... One is still superior, oops I meant four. Lol... Bubble buddy! But, to the argument above.... The ps4 is more powerful, I have one preordered, but there won't be a huge difference between the two... I'm mean really, there won't be.

medziarz1053d ago

PS4 has 50% more GPU compute units than X1,
X1 has 33% less of them than PS4.

mark134uk1053d ago

what games from xb1 and ps4 have been CONFIRMED running at 60 fps?

True_Samurai1053d ago

TitanFall and Forza are plus. Forza is running at 1080p 60fps native

mark134uk1053d ago (Edited 1053d ago )

both above are xb1? so no games has been SEEN/CONFIRMED (not speculation) for ps4 yet?

Jaqen_Hghar1053d ago

Infamous I believe as well as BF4 for PS4. COD Ghosts for both

NewWhiteFeather1053d ago

@Jaqen, why would BF4 only run 60fps on PS4 if X1 has the capabilities?

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JBSleek1053d ago

No you aren't if that was the case you would be a PC gamer.

strifeblade1053d ago

you wanna know whats sufficient 4 years from now?
Go get a pc, cuz you will find ps4 or xb1 lagging in that department.

How does ps4 p2p gaming sound? sufficient right? Well **** that i want dedicated servers which msoft online infratructure can give.

The Cell? thats a joke why do you think sony abondoned cell architecture in ps4? Sony excelled because of blu ray in the first party department and the talent of their studio- cell has being responsible for bad ports as well as party chat (due to ram) for years.

Evil_Ryu1053d ago

you do know the current gen consoles have 512mb of ram...you know how silly you sound.

NewZealander1053d ago

firstly we don't know the full specs of either console just yet, we know the basic set up but how all those components will work together is largely unknown, and to be honest im not phased by which console is more powerful.

but im keeping an open mind, a lot of people seem to have written XB1 off as being inferior before its even shipped, that really is naive, there are so many things to consider.

as we have heard specs can change.

"I would like to pose this question to the audience," he remarked in a subsequent post. "There are several months until the consoles launch, and [as] any student of the industry will remember, specs change.

Microsoft' product planning manager Albert Penello said.

"Given the rumored specs for both systems, can anyone conceive of a circumstance or decision one platform holder could make, where despite the theoretical performance benchmarks of the components, the box that appears "weaker" could actually be more powerful?

"I believe the debate on this could give some light to why we don't want to engage in a specification debate until both boxes are final and shipping."

also things like tilled resources, DX 11.2 and cloud could play a massive role, also MS claims their off the shelf parts are heavily optimized, and rumors MS has held back on what they announce regarding specs due to the past leak, in an attempt to stop sony playing catch up.

im not trying to defend one console over the other, im just saying on paper specs are not an accurate gauge on a consoles power, sure you may get some insight, but there is so much more to it, i am excited to see what both consoles offer, and i know im going to be blown away by both!

slampunk1053d ago

Nice comment mate.....

I'm looking forward to both for different reasons...

slampunk1053d ago

Nice comment mate..... Looking forward to both for different reasons....

NewWhiteFeather1053d ago

I'm not weighing in on the debate, I'd just like to point out that "sufficient for realistic lighting" now will still mean "sufficient for realistic lighting" in 2, 4 or even 30 years.

It doesn't get more realistic than realistic, without delving into the real. What these guys are saying is 10x their current allocation is more than enough for realistic lighting, and that's only 1/10th to 1/5th a single gig.

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showtimefolks1053d ago

as excited as that sounds for both consoles i believe the faster and more ram for games will play a huge role in later years of life cycle

BallsEye1053d ago

Really now? XBOX 360 was superior to ps3 when it comes to GPU power

http://xbox360.tgbus.com/Up...

and yet ps3 games look amazing. I rememeber all the fanboys saying ps3 got amazing architecture and teh cell that's why graphics are so good when 360 got simple architecture. Now when table turned, ps4 is simple and XO more unique inside, SUDDENLY NUMBERS only matter. You guys are hilarious.