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Submitted by Prcko 946d ago | opinion piece

How The Last of Us & Remember Me Killed The Uncharted Series

“The Uncharted series is dead.”
This was one of the many thoughts that crossed my mind after playing through Remember Me, Uncharted 3, and The Last of Us back-to-back-to-back. (PS3, Remember Me, The Last Of Us, Uncharted 2: Among Thieves, Uncharted 3: Drake's Deception, Uncharted: Drake's Fortune)

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Mr_Nuts  +   946d ago | Well said
Not really, they are both equally amazing they just are different genres.

Oh but Remember Me...LOL, yeah whatever man.
nick309  +   946d ago
Yea remember me was a major flop , heck i enjoyed deadpool more than that crap
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Prcko  +   946d ago
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Transporter47  +   945d ago
See i like what they did with Deadpool just needed a bit of more refined gameplay IMO.
pixelsword  +   945d ago
I hear Deadpool had clunky controls, but the translation of the character was spot on; if so, a simple update could make that game a classic.
dcortz2027  +   945d ago
It's already hit bargain bin price, I wonder why.
GameSpawn  +   945d ago
Remember Me had potential, but it fell short on all accounts of being a truly great game. The story was OK, but never really keeps you at the edge of your seat wanting more. The gameplay and remixing minigame are interesting at first, but become "meh" about halfway through the game because of too much of one and too little of the other. In all, Rememmber Me ironically isn't very memorable. It's just an OK game - it's worth playing because it is something different and a change of pace from the norm, but it doesn't go far enough to shake the foundations of its genre(s) and have you walk away wowed and astonished.

Last of Us's change to its genre is the shift in focus to concentrate more on the characters (something lacking in many "survival" games - I'm avoiding the word "zombie" for a more general classification) and having the characters drive the story and not the story drive the characters. Also, the characters don't feel fake or unrealistic. Their behaviors and emotions are what you'd expect of anyone thrown into that kind of situation, as unrealistic as the situation may be.

Naughty Dog's strengths truly lie in their knack for story writing. Uncharted, despite its repetitive gameplay, had some very well written characters and a narrative that kept you playing. The Last of Us was no different except for (in my opinion) having a better narrative; the acting was brilliant in both.

The mark of a good game is one that keeps you wanting more. It one that you can't put down because you want to know what happens next. You want to keep going until the bitter end. Even better is one that gives you all of this but makes you want to play again and again and again.
N4g_null  +   944d ago
What are the official sales numbers?
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RedHawkX  +   946d ago
lol the article writer tried to slip remeber me in there and thought we wouldnt notice because of the awesomeness of the last of us.
Kryptix  +   945d ago
lol It would make sense if he just said The Last of Us and Naughty Dog were planning a sequel right now but adding Remember Me...yea... It was like, "hmmm, I have this great article with a couple good points, but let's add Remember Me to get a few extra hits from people who noticed it." lol Uncharted and The Last of Us are great games, they can both exist with each other. Especially since they're both the highest rated games on the PS3 and Naughty Dog fans loved both of them.
badz149  +   945d ago
in all seriousness
the only thing Remember Me killed is its own potential for a sequel!
assdan  +   945d ago
I don't know what this guy is talking about. If Naught dog announces a new uncharted at gamescon, I will be pretty happy.
RenegadeRocks  +   945d ago
I will be over the moon :D ! We all know its coming !!!!!
bullymangLer  +   945d ago
ha haa seriously . . i mean can i do some of the epic things form Uncharted series in the Last of Us?

freaking fanboys
showtimefolks  +   945d ago
Lol hell no

Remember me is just an average game

TLOU is made by ND so I am pretty sure next UC game will be nothing short of amazing if they decide to do one or maybe they will do a new IP

Remember me's name shouldn't even be used in the same sentence as uncharted. No wonder why Sony let the Game go to capcom
Stallion  +   945d ago
Equally amazing?
I think not.
The Last of Us was on an entirely different artistic level versus Uncharted.
Ares84HU  +   945d ago
Maybe you should play some Uncharted before speaking.

I have all 3 uncharted games platinumed but after I finished the last of us once, I don't even care to bother to go back and play it a second time.

Uncharted >>>>>>>&g t;x3747383821928>>>> ;TLOU.

That is my opinion of course.
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Fluke_Skywalker  +   945d ago
Personally I still think Uncharted 2 is the best game of this gen. TLOU is great, but UC2 is better, imho.
bisejazuhu  +   945d ago
my friend's sister-in-law makes $82/hr on the computer. She has been without a job for 9 months but last month her income was $15374 just working on the computer for a few hours. Read more here ....
RedDevils  +   944d ago
Who give a fuck about your sister earning LOL
Rainstorm81  +   946d ago
Remember me........WTF?
Prcko  +   946d ago
“The Uncharted series is dead.”
in your dreams...
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asmith2306  +   945d ago
Exactly, it's a completely different kind of game. The only thing I will say is that the next Uncharted game (if there is one) will only benefit from the experience that ND had making TLOU.
MidnytRain  +   945d ago
I thought they were made by two different teams?
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fourOeightshark  +   945d ago
You do know that ND has two teams right? The Uncharted team didn't work much on The Last of Us.
IMightBeRetarded  +   945d ago
Actually the uncharted team did have some people sent over to the last of us team to help finish the last of us.
MidnytRain  +   945d ago

But will they go back when they're done? ;)
asmith2306  +   945d ago
@all saying another team worked on Uncharted. Yes but what does that matter? I'm a software developer and we have many teams working on different things in my job but we all share/use the same procedures, tech, etc. Every software job does.
fourOeightshark  +   945d ago
@IMightBeRetarded That's why i said they "didn't work much" on it.
IMightBeRetarded  +   945d ago
Yes. They went back to whatever project they had going on once they were done with their work on the last of us.
MidnytRain  +   945d ago

Wait, so the TLOU team was only a temporary thing?
CrimsonStar  +   945d ago
lol didn't you submit the article?
Reverent  +   945d ago
Doesn't mean he wrote it. Lol
Number-Nine  +   945d ago
Although I think TLOU was a great game, I would put Uncharted 2 ahead of it.
Ares84HU  +   945d ago
I would put every Uncharted ahead of it. TLOU is a good game but Uncharted is just way better. I honestly don't see what others see in this game. Do people really like to hide this much?
King-Prodigy-X  +   946d ago
IRetrouk  +   946d ago
Dont know bout that one mate, i mean yeah the last of us is fantastic but so is the uncharted series, they could make a new one of either and i would buy it day one. What i really want though is a new jak and daxter, i loved those games and would love to see one on the ps4, i think the teams ae big enough now to be able to work on this. I could just be wishfully thinking.
Adexus  +   946d ago
A new Jak and Daxter would be amazing! I need to get around to buying the trilogy collection at some point.
IRetrouk  +   945d ago
Yeah had to get that, so far i have gone through the first and most of the way through the second, still as good as they were.
Cam977  +   946d ago
TLOU is absolutely incredible as it's a 'once-in-a-generation' experience. This is comparable to Resident Evil 2 and 4 in terms of greatness.
j-blaze  +   946d ago
dood don't compare TLoU to RE games!
TLoU was good overall, best game made by ND this gen, but no nowhere near best experience or game of this gen or even this year.. stop saying that, it makes you look like you never played "or you actually didn't" games like Heavy Rain, RDR, MGS4, SMG2, Dark Souls, Xenoblade, Bayonetta etc...these are the generation defining games, TLoU is nothing compared to them imo
Black-Helghast  +   946d ago
Well that's YOUR opinion man. That's why they're called opinions. To me and to a lot of people, TLOU was an unforgettable gaming experience like Resident Evil 4. Heavy Rain, RDR and MGS4 were great games but TLOU is a amazing.
r21  +   945d ago
I was going to comment but

It'd be useless, you are going to keep smacking down ND even if they make great games that are just as the ones you listed.
Cam977  +   945d ago
It is one of this gen's best. The part when Ellie cared for jOEL was touching.
HammadTheBeast  +   945d ago
Lol. WTF kind of a list is that. Bayonetta is generation defining? Lol ok.

In terms of story and character alone, TLoU beats pretty much 95% of other games this Gen. The gameplay is also unique, but never frustrating, beating another 3% from that. That last 2% is made up of games that MAY be able to face up to TLOU.
NeoTribe  +   945d ago
Your the minority on your opinion.
xReDeMpTiOnx  +   945d ago
That was ignorant, I've played almost every single big blockbuster game to hit this gen on all consoles and I firmly believe TLOU is the best game this gen with re4 and mgs4 coming a close 2nd.

I have never been so emotionally gripped and attached to a story that I think about it hours even days after playing, from the writing to the voice acting to the graphics and gameplay everything was so polished it was incredible.

Hence why I also think TLOU is the best game this gen
BISHOP-BRASIL  +   945d ago
Why the hell is everyone bringing "RE4" up in answer to j-blaze? If you mean Resident Evil 4, it's a past gen game, not current gen... Cam977 mentioned RE 2 and 4 in terms of (all-time?) greatness, but j-blaze only said this gen... Not that I agree with him. Trying to bring TLOU to Bayoneta's level? That's cuckoo crazy right there...
icewater85  +   945d ago
Please never put RDR in the best of anything.
b3ast  +   945d ago
lol seriously???? Bayonetta is better?? F*** OFF
DigitalRaptor  +   942d ago
Bayonetta better?

I like how that sounds but sadly it's not true.
KillrateOmega  +   946d ago
Ugh, please don't make me remember Remember Me...

Also, the Uncharted series dead? As if.
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Prcko  +   946d ago
let's w8 for VGA 2013 :)
KillrateOmega  +   946d ago
Do let's :)
Williamson  +   946d ago
Wow what a stupid article! Uncharted and the last of us can easily coexist, the gameplay/experience/ are different enough. Remember me? Seriously dude!
Walker  +   946d ago
Uncharted is a teenage game ! The Last of Us is the most mature game ever ! the difference is huge !

But remember me is a JOKE !
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isa_scout  +   945d ago
I absolutely love The Last Of Us, but Uncharted isn't a game for teenagers. Sure, teenagers probably enjoyed the hell out of it but I'm close to 30 and consider Uncharted 2 one of the best games I've ever played. That's like saying Indiana Jones is only for kids when everyone knows that the fanbase of the Indiana Jones films are closer to middle-aged men. Both games can coexist because they're two vastly different games set in vastly different universes.
RIP_Weazel  +   945d ago
Apples and Oranges -
No WAY is the Uncharted series dead, but as a series evolves it must adapt to innovate whilst keeping the core that makes any series unique. I fully believe that Naughty Dog will be able to up the ante with Uncharted 4, using their experience developed over the last seventeen years.
(As for uncharted being for teens, I couldn’t disagree more. Although TLOU is a darker and more sombre piece, that's not what Uncharted is focusing on, and its this variety that'll guarantee I buy it!- I'm heading into my late thirties and when the next UC is released its a must buy for me with no hesitation!)
Inception  +   945d ago
I'm 29 this month and i love Uncharted series. Don't understand where the hell Walker get the idea that Uncharted is a teenage game -_-
krontaar  +   945d ago
He was talking about the rating
JimmyHACK  +   946d ago
Don't know if I should feel bad cause they actually thought Remember Me was special... or just smart click bait
JasonBloodbourne  +   946d ago
This bloke has definitely smoked too much weed. Open your curtains, go outside its a beautiful day
xReDeMpTiOnx  +   945d ago
Speaking of weed *packs a bowl* :P
thaimasker  +   946d ago
Remember me >>>>>>> dog poop >>>>>>unchar ted >>>>> last of us
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badz149  +   945d ago
you mean
in terms of smell, right? Remember me does smell worst than dog poop LOL!
SpideySpeakz  +   945d ago
Meanwhile, the Wii U is looking like a third wheel.
AceBlazer13  +   945d ago
not sure if your trolling or don't know the difference between < and >
DigitalRaptor  +   946d ago
Uncharted is a great series for a number of reasons. The Last of Us completely surpassed my expectations and blew me away as one of the most mature games I've ever played. I don't mean mature solely in terms of graphic content, but how the game was written, designed and executed. You're not going to see another game like The Last of Us for a long, LONG time. It tramples on Uncharted in almost every possible manner, but that doesn't mean Uncharted 4 won't be a fantastic experience, in a completely different way to The Last of Us.

Remember Me is a good game, but has nothing on Uncharted. The art design is excellent and it's more open in nature, but everything else just cannot compare.
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Ultraplayerxp  +   946d ago
Wow, the media just can't give credit where its due. There always has to be like a backhanded compliment thrown in the mix when talking about successful titles. Naughty Dog raised the bar this gen. They proved it with Uncharted and just in case somebidy didn't get the memo, they did it again with the last of us. Why is that so hard to admit?
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ShaunCameron  +   946d ago
LOL @ Remember Me killing anything.
Hicken  +   946d ago
Saving a click and just voting the article down.
dafegamer  +   946d ago
remember me? I enjoyed the game for what is was, but saying that it killed uncharted, is just wishful dreaming
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PSjesus  +   946d ago
the only thing that Remember me killed is CAPCOM's reputation and their games quality such a shame one of my favorite gaming company to worst in this gen
j-blaze  +   945d ago
Capcom is still and will always be one of the best devs in the industry...Okamiden, Dragon's Dogma, Ghost trick, Lost Planet, Street Fighter 4, Monster Hunter 3 are some of the best games this gen!
PSjesus  +   945d ago
Yes they are all great but most of their hits are handheld no AAA console games (other than SF) is great or popular .... capcom destroyed after key devs left (Kamyia-Mikame-Infune) and closing their best creative studio (Clover)
filipakos  +   945d ago
The only great game capcom released this gen is dragon's dogma for me all else was crap.I have been waiting for an onimusha but nah better make resident evil's.Capcom is like cod
Philoctetes  +   946d ago
For those who don't want to give this a hit, the author's argument is that Remember Me sucks, and therefore Uncharted 3 sucks too. No, that doesn't make a lot of sense, but that's his argument in a nutshell. And then there's this gem at the end:

"As we approach next gen, we're seeing games that broaden the horizons for cinematic experiences with valuable gameplay. The Last of Us feels like an early peek into that bright future. Games like Watch Dogs and Titanfall suggest even more ways to combine a narrative with traditional, unscripted gameplay."

Yeah, I'm sure the narrative in Titanfall will be awesome. /s
dafegamer  +   945d ago
isnt titanfall a multiplayer only game? I fail to see how the Narrative could be great, in this regard
stage88  +   946d ago
The only thing Remember Me killed was it's own franchise.
RedHawkX  +   946d ago
lol remember me? no. No I dont!
R_aVe_N  +   946d ago
You should be flogged for even putting those games in the same article.... Uncharted and The Last of Us are 5x better than that piece of trash of a game.
RedHawkX  +   946d ago
uncharted will be back with avengence on the ps4 believe that!
Lord_Frieza  +   945d ago
but if look naughty dogs games they have references to their next game
uncharted had a last of us easter egg
im guessing their next will be savage starlight (the comic in the last of us)
InTheLab  +   945d ago
I fail to see the difference in Uncharted and TLoU. You still have the same open combat areas in both games, only TLoU makes stealth or avoiding combat viable choices. You simply cannot avoid gunning down hundreds in Uncharted but it is a shooter first and everything else second.

Also, what does the author want out of a TPS? The ability to choose to go left or right, which really is the same path masked by different levels of the same structure?

What about if you removed the vertical aspect of Uncharted and make the game nothing but moving from cover to cover or sliding?

If The Last of Us kills the best TPS (TloU is not a shooter) in Uncharted, then what about Gears, Vanquish, Spec Ops, Dead Space, and all the others? They don't have a right to exist because they also funnel you along with only one of them giving you an arbitrary left or right path. Hell, Gears IS Uncharted without the vertical gameplay, cinematics, and travel porn...

This argument makes no sense, but I do agree that Uncharted cannot just be more of the same. Linearity is not an issue but the game needs an Upgrade system to keep you engaged in gunning down mobs. It needs a carrot on the stick system and more combat areas like the huge ship graveyard in UC3 or the frozen trainwreck in UC2. People tend to forget how open UC can be at times...

Lastly, Linear games still have a place in next gen. Next gen will suck if everything has an open world. You can't appreciate a Watch Dogs or MGS5 if every game has the same structure.
Tatsuya  +   945d ago
Killed by Remember Me? There couldn't be anything more hilarious than that. Who's this butthurt OP?
r21  +   945d ago
Dont really see how Remember Me killed Uncharted. They were both bout the same in linearity but Uncharted pulls it off with great VA, animation, cutscenes and set piece. Also, pretty sure Uncharted 4 is in the works. Itd be a miss opportunity to not show of the PS4's graphical prowess with a series like that.
OrangePowerz  +   945d ago
TLoU is very different to Uncharted and I enjoy both very much and they are on my list of best games this gen. TLoU is a very stealthy and tense game while Uncharted is a bombast, big explosions and set pieces game. I hope to see sequels of both for PS4.

Can't say anything about Remember Me as I haven't played it.
mixelon  +   945d ago
90% of the commenters havent even read the article by the look of it.

The writer doesnt even seem to like Remember Me much.
Dannycr  +   945d ago
As readers, it is our responsibility to avoid hit-seeking websites and articles, so no, I won't be giving these guys a click with such a hit-seeking title, but I'm not going to comment on it either to
mixelon  +   945d ago
But the title actually makes sense given the context of the article, just not for the reasons people are jumping to the conclusion of.

I dont fully agree with the article but it makes some decent points.
tommygunzII  +   945d ago
It's because people
Don't have the time to read.
I thought he made good points.
Of course Uncharted is a great series.
The Last of Us is a great game too.
Sadly, I forgot where I was going with this.
buynit  +   945d ago
Why does it have to be Dead? Can't i just have both..
Tommymk2  +   945d ago
Loved TLOU and love uncharted and for me uncharted it still king and U2 is still better, has much better replay value, more skins n all round a great game I mean that train level.. Gaming doesn't get much better
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