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Submitted by Foolsjoker 370d ago | opinion piece

Xbox One vs PS4 Reality Check

As Microsoft continues to dig their own grave, the ever lasting ‘console war’ has flared up with people declaring winners right out of the gate. With that, the Daily Reaction crew of Seb and Dan takes a step back and points out that, while MS might be covered in dirt at the moment, they haven’t picked out a headstone just yet. (Call of Duty: Ghosts, Gears Of War Judgement, Halo 5: Guardians, Microsoft, PS4, Sony, Xbox One)

doctorstrange  +   370d ago
Yup, they'll both survive. I know which one I'll choose first, but they'll both survive.
Foolsjoker  +   370d ago
Ouya?
Godmars290  +   370d ago
Will only appeal to gamers. Internet literate gamers.
cleft5  +   370d ago
That sleek Ouya design, too good. Can't wait to play the latest and greatest Nintendo emulators.
morganfell  +   370d ago
"...while MS might be covered in dirt at the moment, they haven’t picked out a headstone just yet."

When you die in this business you do not pick out your own headstone. It's picked for you by the crowds watching other people kick dirt on your corpse.
BitbyDeath  +   370d ago
Is it still a console war when MS are the only ones shooting... at themselves?

Sure Sony occasionally point out a few of the bodies but as far as wars go... :-/
Speider  +   370d ago
Yup. With the price disparaties and all that jazz when 360 and PS3 launched, they both did good.

As different releases attract different audiences for both bachines, the "war" will continue to ebb and flow, and both systems will sell. I hope to god that both/all three systems have healthy cycles, so the competition doesn't stop. THAT would be a tragedy.
thehitman  +   370d ago
Key difference between 360 and ps3 and xb1 and ps4 is... people bought the 360 because it was first of the HD gen and playstation has too much of a following for people not to get it with the largest gaming library. Xb1 however has nothing going for it not specs not price not gaming library or policies. This gen has like 160mil between 360/ps3 I expect the same next gen but ps4 making up like 100mil compared to xb1 60mil. Therer will be competition and I dont think xbox will die off next gen but it wont be nearly as even as this gen.
No_Limit  +   370d ago
Agreed 100%.
JodyCones  +   370d ago
Yup getting both because i like playing all games. But definitley the PS4 first, already preorded it.
rainslacker  +   370d ago
I think calling the outright doom of any console is just silly. I wouldn't even call the Wii U doomed despite it's current troubles, and it's a released system.

Long haul, Xbox will probably make MS money. It may not achieve everything they hope to achieve however, and that's to take over the living room. In this regard, the X1 may be a failure for MS, even if it's profitable. The Xbox 360 took them pretty far to achieve their overall goal, and they did quite well this gen in that regard by establishing a huge install base. But if that adoption has a negative trend and doesn't see the adoption of the "living room" crowd, it won't be what they want it to be.

Overall, I do think the X1 will be a good gaming machine with a lot to offer, I just don't feel it offers enough for me to go out and buy it day one. Some of the games look good, and I want to play them, but not at the expense of the console, or the addition of some features which actually turn me off of the system.
devwan  +   370d ago
"Long haul, Xbox will probably make MS money."

Interesting forecast - what makes you think ms' xbox division will turn it around this generation? Since its inception it has always been in the red.
rainslacker  +   369d ago
I can't say what they have to turn around because I'm not aware of what "always in the red" the Xbox division has seen since it's inception. It's had bad quarters, but overall it's been profitable.

The Xbox division doesn't perform as well as the rest of MS, which is why some analyst say MS should dump it, but if it hadn't been profitable for the past 12 years, we wouldn't be seeing a new console from them. MS first turned a profit on the Xbox in 2008, BTW. Google is your friend.

However, when I say it will be profitable for MS overall, I am speaking of the fact that they have multiple revenue streams available to them through the Xbox. Game licensing fees, peripheral profits, Live, licensing deals with content providers, their own first party game sales, etc.

All that may not lead to the success they may be hoping for in achieving their overall goal of owning the living room, hence a failure in the sense of the purpose of the device for MS, but that doesn't mean it won't do well.

Anyone who thinks that the system will flounder out of the gate and be completely gone in a year because of what's going on now needs a reality check.

And I say this as someone who right now hates MS for what they tried to do, and someone who admittedly has a much bigger preference for Sony.
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RetroGqmer  +   370d ago
You have to laugh at two bit websites, who've been around for five minutes, taking shots at long established, extremely credible gaming magazines like Edge.
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TrendyGamers  +   370d ago
It's going to be a fun fight to watch.
dedicatedtogamers  +   370d ago
Ironically, of the two brands (Xbox vs Playstation) only one brand is integral to the survival of their parent company. Only one company will fight tooth and nail to make sure that not only does their videogame console survive, but their gaming division survives, too.

Guess which company that is.
Mystogan  +   370d ago
Spoiler alert:

It's Sony, they are living of off the playstation. Without it, they would die quickly.
ThatCanadianGuy514  +   370d ago
i'm pretty sure they would do fine without it, Mystogan.

Sony financial services and insurance nets them 9+ Billion a year.

About the same for Sony pictures & Sony Music
theWB27  +   370d ago
@DayZ
You couldn't possibly be that naive. Over the past 5 years the Playstation has been about the only thing keeping them afloat.

http://kotaku.com/5960411/h...

http://www.develop-online.n...

Please do some research.
ThatCanadianGuy514  +   370d ago
Please do some research indeed.

"Its financial arm accounts for 63 percent of Sony’s total operating profit last year. Life insurance has been its biggest moneymaker over the last decade, earning the company 933 billion yen ($9.07 billion) in operating profit in the 10 years that ended in March.

Sony’s film and music divisions, which produced hits like the Spider-Man movies and “Zero Dark Thirty” and recorded musicians like the cellist Yo-Yo Ma and the electronic music duo Daft Punk, have contributed $7 billion to the company’s bottom line over the last decade.

In that time, Sony’s electronics division(Which Playstation is part of) has lost a cumulative $8.5 billion."(Mostly due to their marketshare loss of TV's)
http://www.nytimes.com/2013...

I mean really, if you're going to try and reply to me with some half-baked, snarky comment, at least put some minimal effort into it.Playstation keeping sony afloat? Really? It's their other sectors keeping their electronics division afloat, plain and simple.
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AceBlazer13  +   370d ago
@Mystogan dumbass sony doesn't live off playstation wouldn't be surprised if it was a burden to them.xbox plays a bigger role to microsoft though
devwan  +   370d ago
No, you're both wrong. They have both lost their parent companies money.
ftwrthtx  +   370d ago
In any console war, it is the gamers that win.
Godmars290  +   370d ago
BS
All we got this gen were FPS, FPS with other game elements, and retro titles as people got tired of FPS.

This gen saw the death of 2D gaming, as well as the crippling of RPGs, flight sims and arcade games as main titles. Maybe with the nex gen diversity in gaming genres might make a comeback, but I currently doubt it.
SegaSaturn669  +   370d ago
I'm as disappointed as you are by the lack of non nintendo super robot wars games. But this generation is supposed to have a much shorter development period and only 3 more ff13 spinoffs.
Fireseed  +   370d ago
@SegaSaturn669

Shorter dev cycle? Have you any idea how much more detail we got to put into these things before we finish? Not only quality has been upped but now that both consoles have 50gb Blu-Rays for their media, the amount of it has only increased as well.
Campy da Camper  +   370d ago
Depends. For me, I really enjoyed Infamous, Little Big Planet, Portal, Oblivion, Fallout and other games. I used to be big on fps like rainbow 6 and I agree they grew stale. There are some great games this gen though.
Imalwaysright  +   370d ago
Is that why MS tried to implement draconian policies? Console wars only benefit us if the big 3 understand and listen to what we want. I still don't know what the hell MS was thinking. They almost killed the Xbox brand.

@ Godmars290 Couldn't agree more. This gen was definetely the worst. No creativity, no variety and overall less quality. Not only that but we had to deal with publishers/devs trying to nickle and dime us at every turn while they were releasing broken games left right and center.
Cueil  +   370d ago
look a completely unbiased site
MysticStrummer  +   370d ago
Did you read it?

What did they say that was biased?

They're saying don't count MS out.
NeoTribe  +   370d ago
He said unbiased.
MysticStrummer  +   370d ago
@Neo - I automatically saw sarcasm. My bad. *hangs head in shame*
n4rc  +   370d ago
Yeah no kidding.. PlayStation lifestyle huh?

Like I've said many times.. These fan sites are like the fox news of the internet.. They make shit up and are so blindly biased its actually funny..

And no, I didn't read it.. Once I saw "ms is digging their own graves" I skipped it..

These sites are the ones claiming polls are definitive sales and ms is being crushed.. Funny that I can find reputable sources that say x1 Pre orders are out pacing ps4..

These sites aren't reputable sources for anything
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Mystogan  +   370d ago
Actually the article is not that biased.
doctorstrange  +   370d ago
"And no, I didn't read it".

If you did, you'd see it was saying that MS hurt themselves, but aren't dead at all
n4rc  +   370d ago
Who said they hurt themselves? Fanboys and sites like these...

Guess who all flocks to vote in these polls? The same people that flock to hit disagree on here.. Ps4 fans..

The ones that bitched and complained were never going to buy a Xbox anyways.

And most? Its probably easier to sell mommy on the lower price and call the real consumers idiots for how they spend their own money
ThatCanadianGuy514  +   370d ago
"Who said they hurt themselves?"

Does anyone really HAVE to say it at this point? Oh i see, forgive me.I just read the rest of your comment.Once again, everything is all conspiracy theories plotted out by those mastermind PS4 fanboys.

Is there no end to their devilish schemes?!
n4rc  +   370d ago
Wow.. So thinly veiled insults with absolutely zero facts to back up your argument..

Where have I seen this before?? Hmmm.. Lol
ftwrthtx  +   370d ago
Maybe you should read it before judging it as biased.
MikeyDucati1  +   370d ago
Seb expressed my sentiments. That was just poor journalism by Edge.
Mystogan  +   370d ago
Agreed that was very irresponsible, I'm surprised Microsoft didn't react to it though. As in sueing the shit out of them.
rainslacker  +   370d ago
Don't think they could sue someone over their opinion. It's a sensational headline, but not really libelous.

I also think MS has enough PR problems without going out and suing a major publication.

Best they just let it go, or make a counter-argument. It's likely to get much worse for them, if that's possible, before launch time.
jessupj  +   370d ago
While Edge may have gone a little over board, there is still a lot of truth in what they said.

The Xbone is a technically inferior, more expensive console that seems more concerned with tv than games. Also, how long will MS support their core customers? If history is any indication they will stop releasing exclusives after a few years.

If you're a gamer, the clear and obvious choice is to get a PS4. If after a few years MS prove themselves and continue to support their console, then one might consider getting it as well.
MikeyDucati1  +   369d ago
If it is technically superior, then how come Ubisoft is saying Watch Dogs as a whole will be better on the One? PS3 was technically superior but games looked better on 360. So basically its on the developers, not the console.

If I'm a gamer, I'm going to buy what I want. PS4 doesn't signify that you are a true gamer. To think like that is basically exposing your mental maturity level.
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MRMagoo123  +   369d ago
@mikey
"If it is technically superior, then how come Ubisoft is saying Watch Dogs as a whole will be better on the One?"
The article you are referring to was not saying the xbone version is better than the ps4 version , the guy was giving an example as to why the next gen versions are better than the ps3 and 360 games.

"PS3 was technically superior but games looked better on 36" Another thing you got wrong, the ps3s cpu was superior the 360 had a better ram config and better gpu. Try getting some facts right before talking sh!t. Its not hard to research nowadays with google and other search resources, at uni its a daily occurrence to make sure you have the facts to back up your claims otherwise you fail , and today good sir you have failed.
MikeyDucati1  +   369d ago
@MRMagoo123

First of all why are you resorting to vulgar language with me? You can express yourself or at least try, constructively, without resorting to such simplistic animal like behaviors.

And to your response

"Watch Dogs producer Dominic Guay has stated that WATCH DOGS ON XBOX ONE WILL HAVE A MORE DYNAMIC CITY THAN THE PS4"

More dynamic city than PS4. Say it with me now, More dynamic city than PS4. He then goes on to say how the cloud computing will allow many things as such as advanced A.I. and how it responds quickly. It's intelligence as a whole

Did you actually read the article or you just wanted to fuss about something cause you didn't like my comment? I'm definitely going with the latter

Get your facts straight before you talk crap.

Good day ma'am, you have failed
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cleft5  +   370d ago
Look at everything Sony is doing and saying and look at everything Microsoft is doing and saying. If you are honest it's clear that Sony is moving in the right direction. Meanwhile, Microsoft is scrambling to play catch up by reversing policies and getting rid of incompetent people. The opposite was true when the PS3/360 was launching.

People like to pretend like both of these companies are even, but they really aren't. I feel like people are so concern with being fair to both companies that they are inadvertently being an apologist for a company that has been making all the wrong moves.
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Magnus  +   370d ago
Sure wish Sega would make the Dreamcast 2/
Max-Zorin  +   370d ago
And get booted again by Sony? It's not worth it.
denawayne  +   370d ago
Xbox One. I don't let articles or forums make decisions for me.
Fireseed  +   370d ago
Shhh don't shatter the dreams and illusions of average N4G goers.
devwan  +   370d ago
No you don't and it seems the same goes for facts and common sense. There's only one multinational megacorp that tells you what to do, that much is clear (re: your comment "I've been a day 1 xbox one supporter").
edonus  +   370d ago
Reality .....?

From a Playstation site ....?

That would be like buying a car from Kentucky fried Chicken.

I'm not even going to read I want to play a game let me guess.

Something to do with DRM which no longer exists burned customers or threaten gaming somehow and probably they will reinstate it.

Kinect can be used to spy on you and since the core market didnt lie kinect 1 kinect 2 is a waist and should be optional.

gddr5 is king the X1 is weak(er) than the Ps4 the GPU is a going to be 50% better. If they really start bottom feeling theyll say the X1 only has 5gbs of ram for games.

OH pre orders are higher for the Ps4.

There will probably be no mention of the set top box features the one has of its ability to multitask.

No mention of the eSram making to total memory bandwidth of the X1 more than the Ps4.

No mention of the azure network and cloud computing (which already exists and is being used in tons of devices already but when MS uses its billion dollars network for their console it a myth).

How much did I get right? Do I need to read it?
doctorstrange  +   370d ago
All wrong. This is an article about the exact opposite...

It's about why both will be successful. This is why people should read articles before commenting.

Reality.
Foolsjoker  +   370d ago
About nothing actually, this is actually putting to rest all the BS people are spouting about the XBO being dead on launch.
Hicken  +   370d ago
Good job getting it completely wrong by not even bothering to read the article. Really showed your fanboyism there.
rainslacker  +   370d ago
Only thing you got right was they mentioned PS4 pre-orders were higher. They didn't touch on the rest of the stuff. Other than that, they were actually saying that it's silly to count out the X1 right now, as it will likely do quite well.

You could have read the article in the time it took you to write your comment.

And yes, if you're going to comment on an article, you should have the decency to read it. For the most part, Seb and Dan's Daily Reaction articles are well thought out and not fanboyish. If you didn't automatically discount anything PlayStation then you would know that.
ghostrider32  +   370d ago
When keeping it real goes wrong.
edonus  +   370d ago
Damn it!!!!

I lost this round of the game. I got some of the stuff right but I didn't score enough points to win.

Their are just some sites you don't expect to here any kind of balance and reality from... I was pleasantly surprised.
MRMagoo123  +   369d ago
Yeh and how about the fact you have some conspiracy that the entire internet is run by sony fanboys lol you sir are a joke at best. The only reason it seems there are so many sony fans on the internet is because there are more sony fans in the world, and you know why ?? because the majority of the population prefer sony to microsoft its not that hard a concept to grasp.

I think most of you xbox fans got your hopes up too high with the year and half head start and thought that there where more xbox fans than there really is.
kwiksilver99  +   370d ago
i own a ps3 and vita and hopefully a ps4 by the end of the year.
i hope microsoft dont go under because i believe the competition between the 'big 3' will give us more options than a monopoly would.
im sure this gen has shown that amid all the fanboy rants and shouts, they(sony,microsoft,nintendo) can co-exist,successfully.
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fsfsxii  +   370d ago
Yeah right. MS been ruining gaming ever since they entered the industry. Things were really fine before they came in
theWB27  +   370d ago
I read the article and pretty much agree with everything they wrote. In certain areas the Xbox brand is as strong, if not stronger, than the Playstation brand.

There are a ton of gamers who simply don't want to game on another system, especially since they're locked into the ecosystem and friends they've gown to have over the years.

Xbox is the ultimate buddy system, especially for Madden and COD. Don't expect N4G and it's brigade of Sony lovers to stop with "Xbox is dead rhetoric" though.

X1 first for me. PS4 down the road.
No_Limit  +   370d ago
Good post theWB27. I am doing the same thing as you are, getting a Xbox 1 first and maybe get a PS4 in 2-3 years down the road.
knifefight  +   370d ago
The Ballmer the Better.
jamsam360  +   370d ago
What?
I can not believe that people chosse sony a japan made console over an american brand console made in china! Me i support american products! LOL
Foolsjoker  +   370d ago
No, you support Chinese products.

"Microsoft announced which companies will be producing Xbox 360. Flextronics and Wistron (who worked on the first Xbox) and Celestica (a new partner with Microsoft) will be manufacturing the game system in their plants in China."
http://www.businessweek.com...
jamsam360  +   369d ago
Dude it was a joke! Stop being so serious! P.S. I am getting a Xbox One.
oscarcat59  +   370d ago
This article was a waste of time. It is so onesided it almost like having a date with oneself lol. Both sides should be presented with the strengths and weakness of each.
MRMagoo123  +   369d ago
I for one agree with the article , i dont think the xbone will be DOA but what i do think is that the ps4 will dominate this gen by a large margin, xbone will still do well and will sell same as the wiiu does but its not gonna be close this time round. My main ideas for this reason is 1) sony is the better known brand for gaming and has and always will be more popular to gamers. 2)the reason 360 sold so well was because of the long arse wait for the ps3 so ppl jumped into the next gen with MS. 3)Sony is the cheaper and yet more powerful console anyone with half a brain or more would choose it before the xbone.

you cant argue with facts ppl.

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