A fascinating drama is playing out in Sony and Nintendo’s home market — the PS Vita has found a new lease on life, while the Wii U continues flatlining.
Sony's last handheld vs. Nintendo's last console. @ disagrees If Sony cared about the Vita as much as they do about the PS4, it wouldn't have been completely ignored for 2 E3s straight. The Wii U should have been released 4 years ago. Nintendo should go handheld-only because the Wii U won't get the support from old ladies, like the Wii got.
I love when people say Sony ignored the Vita at two E3's. I wonder what those 30 some-odd games I played at this years E3 were all about...apparently my imagination.
@ sarshelyam Maybe if Sony advertised those games, I wouldn't have to find out that they existed a month after E3, in the comments on N4G.
@ GreenRanger Sad but true ;) Not irrelevant when i'm agreeing with the first comment. ;)
@LOL_WUT Also completely irrelevant to the discussion at hand.
To the guy complaining about advertising, how many 3DS adverts do you see? How many Android game adverts do you see? There is a lot of math that goes into determining the value of add campaigns and companies tend to follow the numbers. If it's a big time game they get it out there everywhere, if it's not then it's more subtle, lower cost advertising. Do most gamers not read gaming sites... Like this one? What, do you deem yourself and the rest of us a minority of savvy gamers? Get real.
@LOL_WUT Funny, his name resembles most people's reactions to anything that comes out of his mouth.
Would've been great if they, I don't know, showed them during their stage time. Games on the floor equates to an incredibly small amount of people knowing about those games. Also, the upcoming list is pretty weak. Mostly ports and indie games, with little to no big name support. And yes AAA support is necessary. If I wanted to play indie games I'd take out my phone and play some. Nobody buys a Vita for the indie support it gets. I love the Vita, but Sony is incredibly bad when it comes to promoting it and making sure it gets quality titles.
ha haa haaa again with the saLes of things? . heh heh jelous fanboys are more hardheaded than a little boy when he finds out Santa was just a HoaX . . sales? haaa. . so this article is saying that sales determine somethings glory ha ha haaaa faiL . . ha haaa im about to END this whole sales sharade ha haaaa . . just like this . . then justin bieber crushes Biggie smalls the destroyer because justin has had more saLes ? < (: get out of my office!!
@GreenRanger - -_- Is that you TheMart?
The Vita now officially has too many games for me to keep up with.
@sarshelyam What green ranger meant was vita was shown for about 15 mins to the mainstream and that was it.
Yep, you nailed it. @GreenRanger so you only learn of games through advertisements? Funny I've never seen a commercial or posters/billboards for games like Journey, dark/demon souls I can go on. The point is the last I checked Sony isn't a marketing firm. It's up to the publishers to decide based on development budget if "advertising" the hell out of a game is worth it. They know that true gamers will know that the games are out there.
theres no reason nintendo should stop making home consoles and sony to stop making handhelds
You always have the fanboys clamoring on different levels. The Nintendon't crowd will always there. Older gamers are fixated on blood and guts and graphics. It doesn't matter what Nintendo does, WiiUselessness is a must to help make things better for Sony and MS. These guys think that Nintendo needs to conform and make games on their consoles, with the same controllers, for decades on end. They've made up their mind and now it's crunch time. I fail to see what Sony and MS has done that PC doesn't do better.
@Benjaminkno Sell games. It's been a long time that PC game market has been getting alot better as the same goes by but console sales in game software trump pc for decades. Also compatibility every PS3/Xbox game I buy will work on my system this is not the same with every PC owner without upgrade or OS differences. This is why console is a viable market although slumping due to increase in tablet and phone stuffs
@Benjaminkno "Older gamers are fixated on blood and guts and graphics." It's teens who are most fixated on those rather than older gamers.
I get what your saying, but imo I think they ignored the vita @ e3 becsuse its more then likely that the ps4 will sale it.
yeah, because the first thing people want to do after spending 400+ dollars on a next gen console is drop another 250 for the vita.
tbh the cross gameplay thing makes me want to do that would be awesome for when im in a boring class or at work with no customers or even on break so ya makes me want to
I want to see more than cross and remote play with Vita and PS4, but it's a good start and if devs make them interact in interesting ways I'd certainly pick up a Vita. PS4 first though.
They have said several times now that TGS and Gamescon is all about PS Vita and PS4. Just maybe before everyone jumps to conclusions they should wait to see those first.
Then if nothing is shown there you can go back to saying everything you have been. No doubt the PS Vita will sell a little more with PS4 but I highly doubt Sony is completely banking on the PS4 to sell them.
That would just be a really stupid business move to rely on the PS4 to sell it alone, clearly that isn't the case.
Good games exist and are coming for the Vita, why people constantly ignore them and say stuff like this is beyond me but that is the world I suppose. Not meant to ever fully understand.
They didn't IGNORE the Vita, they only have a allotted amount of time and they didn't have an extra hour to talk about the Vita which would not have been hard to do.
There were simply too many games across all three platforms to mention in one pre-E3 show. They said there'd be over 30 Vita games on the floor...you didn't hear that part, or did you choose to ignore it. Yes, I understand you have to do some of the legwork here, some research, but missing the mention or simply not taking the time to look up what they spoke to doesn't bolster your argument.
@ sarshelyam I'm talking about post-E3 advertising. There are a lot of Vita games that I didn't even know existed until I browsed PSN. It's Sony's job to make people aware of these games, and they're not putting any effort into it.
Why would Sony put money into advertising games which will inevitably sell relatively little? Go do some research, Sony shouldn't have to put billboards up of every Vita game in development for you to realise that they exist.
I've seen cock fights with headless chickens more interesting and competitive than "Vita vs Wii U" They both have absolutely foolish directions (expensive handheld in time of many people owning a handheld and successor to one of the most successful consoles of all time, with nothing learned from what made it so popular) and they both seem to think that throwing the same old IPs at gamers will save it.
Lol all of the 3ds' best selling games are the same old and extremely tried IPs. All vita and Wii U need are price cuts and more exclusives. Like Nintendo shot the Wii U in the face by announcing Smash bros an the 3DS. And Sonic lost Worlds will only have mp for the 3ds. Two less reasons to own a Wii U if you got a 3DS.
@silent The wii was fraudulentley successful and that wont happen again its a disgrace that console almost sold ps1 numbers.
@Pope They only sold so many copies of games like Mario Kart Wii (~35M) because they had a massive install base from getting the system into so many homes. IF they had learned from that technique of appealing to such a broad audience, Nintendo could have sold similar numbers on their own software. But now they will likely not even sell half as many copies. And third parties will mostly get mediocre sales on it (but that's expected for a Nintendo console these days, unfortunately).
Certain people can continue criticizing the Vita but the reality is the PS Vita continues to slowly but steadily increase in sales. The Vita may not drop as many games as the 3DS, but Vita games continue to impress with quality must have award winning titles like Tearaway which won this years "GCA E3 Best Portable/Handheld Game" award.
@bullymangler. Props for the long john peter reference. Justin Bieber is more important than biggie to his targrt audience. It seems to be young girls everywhere. I dont think most were alive when biggie died.
Poor advertising or not, SONY is supporting the VITA with games. It's not hard to do a google search and see all Vita games (upcoming ones too)
Quiet GreenRanger, we know you're evil, and the WhiteRanger is the good guy. I had nothing clever to add to this conversation. Though I do disagree with you about the Vita being ignored. I like many others must have created games in my mind and played them on a blank Vita screen.
Seems like a very odd comparison, although I am glad to see the Vita doing poorly instead of horribly (if you catch my drift).
Poorly, My Vita gets played everyday. Idc about how many units sold, my games are the best and my friends on my buddy list send me naked pictures of ladies all the time in the chat box. I have slutty women photos all over the backgrounds of my bubbles. Which i have 7 walls. I have many multiplayer games. I have the best indie game ever made Gucamelee. Sales is the only thing I'm misssing : ? i don't understand, are these sales DLC for a game ?
I don't think dedicatedtogamers was trying to say the Vita was useless... More like, it's doing less badly in sales than it was previously and he's happy it's improved somewhat. I don't see what in his comment made you feel the need to justify your purchase of a Vita.
Your drift does not work.
Pops it may appear I'm trying to justify it, but I got it really good. This isn't a opinion that i have it good. I'm speaking for myself so disagrees can kiss the whitest part of my ass. Vita has a Xbox live type of communication on a HANDHELD, with good fighting games, good shooting games, good rpg games, good monster hunting games, good indie games, good racing games, good sandbox games, PSP games, Ps one classics good smartphone games, good exclusives and an above par OLED screen. The bubble OS is soooo underrated too. It's a handheld that can have a shitload of backgrounds each swipe up . The gaming community need to justify not buying one not me who owns one, for real. Forget to mention Dual analog sticks FTW! See how many pros i listed what is the other sidse argument " I'm broke", riiiigggggghttttttt. 2 years and look at the game catalog. 10 year life cycle with everything Sony baby : )
Yup, totally justifying it.
@ TongkatAll I own a PS Vita, too, and I play it pretty much every day. If you want to add me on PSN send me a PM. Currently playing through SoulSac and Gravity Rush. (My comment was meant to say that I'm glad it's selling slightly less horribly. I wish it sold like gangbusters but I'll take baby-steps at this point)
Worldwide it is a different story, but the article in question is from BGR and reads like fanboy drivel. Why wasn't the 3DS mentioned? I know agendas and all, but c'mon. Rise above this, people.
Because The vita ,(which everyone says is dead) is outselling the Wii U (which everyone says its doing fine in sales)
The 3DS is competing with the Vita. The Wii U will be competing with the next gen consoles (and will fail). And again, this was just Japan that the Wii U was outsold. It's a different story worldwide. What released on Wii U this week compared to Vita? Oh. Nothing. Oh. It's like some of you are living in your own fantasy worlds, where the Wii U with no new releases is supposed to outsell a system with a new release.
This was only talking about Japan....Worldwide it's not so much apparent.
@2pacalypsenow Same people who says Wii U will be fine, claims the PS Vita is dead...smh.
Who in the hell is saying that the Wii U is doing fine? It's selling atrociously! People are saying that it's sales will pick up "when the games come," but no one in their right mind would say that it's selling fine currently.
Yeesh, that Mario.
I'm glad to see the Vita doing better (Toukiden is apparently selling really well in Japan). Of course Wii U sales in Japan are not going to be great, they haven't released anything for it and they will continue that way until they release some games for it. I'm curious to see if Pikmin 3's release next week will have any impact on sales. As someone who loves the Pikmin franchise I'll be the first to admit, they aren't exactly system selling games, but we'll see if it can give the Wii U a boost next week. Also this article is from BGR, the same folks who claimed that healthy sales of the 3DS was a bad sign for Nintendo because it will delay their move into mobile sales for iOS. I felt stupid just typing that out.
"the same folks who claimed that healthy sales of the 3DS was a bad sign for Nintendo because it will delay their move into mobile sales for iOS" I just... I mean... what!?
In other news, hows the 3DS doing?
destroying everything else lol. Funny thing is that the 3DS was doomed according to same naysayers of the Wii U
the 3DS went from $250 to $160 in less than a year because it was flopping real hard.
It's not like Nintendo is making any money with the huge price drop they did last year. I thought they were only making money on softwares...
Price drop came in 2011, which is almost 2 years ago.
You thought wrong, Nintendo even made money selling the Original Wii Hardware.. http://www.joystiq.com/2008... That was 2008, they sold about 100M Wii's. Most other console makers hardly make money on the hardware...
Isn't the 3ds like dirt cheap? Maybe that's why is selling.
The Wii U has sold 4 million units in 7 months, it has taken the vita 17 months to sell just over 5 million units. You do the math. Come christmas the Wii U will have outsold the vita.
And The Ps4 and xbox1 will have outsold the Wii U
and you'll still be spewing out fanboy drivel
what does PS4 and XBONE have that can outsell a 3D Mario
So because i don't like Nintendo and do like Xbox and Ps4 i'm a fanboy? i'll take it ,you nintendo fanboy , And who cares about 3d mario i'll take all the games coming out on Ps4 and Xbox 1 (Ps3/Xbxo 360) over Wii u or Ds games
By Christmas? Yeah, VERY unlikely.
That's very unlikely. Even with record preorders I doubt they will sell over 2 million at launch
If VGChartz is any source to believe, The Vita has been very slowing gaining momentum in weekly sales, whereas the Wii-U isn't even outselling the Wii atm, which is also doing horribly. This past week, Vita outsold Wii-U by 10K + units, and that's about the average it's been for a while now. Wii-U is doing really bad right now.
I`m afraid they are not, so back to the drawing board with your comment.
@Kos-Mos They probably are, but even so, if the Wii-U numbers are undertacked, it's highly likely that the Vita numbers are too, meaning Vita is most likely still selling better than Wii-U. No need for a drawing board here.
@Prime_28 Nope. Not 4 million, 3.1 million, Get Your facts Straight and Don't Be Delusional (LOL! at the People who agrees with Your Delusional Number :P) .,PS Vita is 5.3 Million. And lately, PS Vita is Outselling Wii U World Wide total Sales.
3.5 millions to be exact not 4. The PS3 at $600 sold that in just 2 months and 12.6 millions total in 12 months. That the PS4 will outsell the Wii U in pre-orders alone is pretty much a given based on the fact that PS3 at a higher price and weak launch did it. http://www.scei.co.jp/corpo...