Twitch TV, the well known streaming site for gaming related content has now announced that they have partnered with the Steam platform.
another win for the best gaming service out there
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if he would have been talking about ps4 it would have been accepted as fact on here
@thezeldadoth, That is pretty accurate. Steam provides a better service overall.
*this comment is the opinion of the poster and does not reflect that of N4G, other members, or fact, unless it pertains to PS4. FIXED
Am I the only one who thinks PSN and Steam are equally as good but in different ways. I mean they are both good at what they do just they do things better then each other.
I love how the Sony haters come out in force just because one person states that the opinion of another person is that person's own opinion alone. Lol. Look at the disagrees for stating a fact. Apparently you can't even hint that Steam isn't "the best gaming service out there" no matter what without the SHF, and my personal stalker, coming out in force. Get over the love affair for a DRM service. Honestly. @the_hitman3000: You're not allowed to think that. You either think Steam is the best or you're a PS4/Sony fanboy, and we all know that that's the worst thing to be because the Xbox One is the future and has the power of the cloud. **EDIT** It's also funny that I didn't even mention Sony, the PS4, or anything even remotely related to the Playstation brand, and yet look how many people are turning it into a Steam vs. PSN topic. LOL. And people say this site is overrun by Sony fanboys. Classic.
@the_hitman3000 Try naming anything PSN does better than Steam.
@DragonKnight, "It's also funny that I didn't even mention Sony, the PS4, or anything even remotely related to the Playstation brand, and yet look how many people are turning it into a Steam vs. PSN topic. LOL. And people say this site is overrun by Sony fanboys. Classic." Yet, your other response below is: "In before someone makes the connection of Twitch Tv partnering with Steam and Microsoft so obviously Steam will be on the Xbox One." Hmm, let me see, so you are accusing others of dragging in PSN with Steam; and yet, here you are, the first one to take another shot at the Xbox. I like the double standard here, pal. _____________________________ _______________ "Oh, and nice stealth edit on your lower comment. You know the ":) /s " wasn't there beforehand but whatever." My edited post with ":) /S" was edited 41m ago. Your response "Called it above." was edited 30m ago. You either didn't read correctly or you must be typing very slow. :)
@No_Limit: A) My below comment has no bearing on my initial comment so it's pointless for you to bring it up. B) Even if it weren't pointless for you to bring it up, you did exactly what I said was going to happen anyway, so either I could have posted my comment before you, or simply waited until you posted your comment and replied to you with a similar comment. So again, classic. SHF in full force. Oh, and nice stealth edit on your lower comment. You know the ":) /s " wasn't there beforehand but whatever. **EDIT** @Ducky: Pretty irrelevant though because, joke or not, he did what I claimed was going to happen. I never specified "in before someone jokingly...." so what's your point? That somehow because he was joking means he didn't do what I said someone was going to do?
^ It was a clear joke on No_Limit's part. The '/s' wasn't even needed, since the HalfeLife3 thing made it obvious.
if console players would just give steam a chance they would quit bashing it and realize why it is so respected
@DragonKnight, "I love how the Sony haters come out in force just because one person states that the opinion of another person is that person's own opinion alone. Lol. Look at the disagrees for stating a fact." Sony haters? No, Steam provides a very good service with its community. People who use it know it. Just because some think Steam is the best doesn't translate into everyone all of the sudden being a hater. That's not how things work in the real world. You don't need to hate the competition if you like something. That's where immaturity and ignorance comes in. It is possible to actually like the services Sony provides and still like Steam more. I know it's the cool thing to do to hate on the Xbox brand for example if you like the Playstation but again lots of people actually enjoy the Xbox and Playstation and Nintendo systems for that matter. All while enjoying what Steam provides to the PC community. I myself am a console gamer and a PC gamer, shocking isn't it? This whole us versus them mentality really needs to stop. This is supposed to be a gaming site, not a fanboy site.
@No_Limit: When I replied to you, there was no ":) /s" so that's on N4G not me. @thestalker: You realize that I don't bother to actually read anything you write don't you? I won't until you stop being afraid of answering the question of why you're following me around like a lost puppy after you got a 2 day comment restriction because you're obsessed with me. @thezeldadoth: just because a person may play primarily on a console is not an indication that they haven't tried Steam. Steam has sales, that's literally the best part about Steam. But Steam is also one big honking DRM service. Just because it isn't as intrusive as other DRM, doesn't mean it doesn't have its intrusive moments and isn't DRM. You say Steam is respected. Compared to what? What other options are there on PC? Few if any. Are you sure it's respect or just using the best option that you have? I really find it funny how PC gamers claim to be all about rights especially when it comes to people who are against hacking and stuff, but when you tell them that Steam takes away their rights but does so gently, then the hypocrisy rears its head. You like Steam, that's good for you. All the power to you. But don't pretend like it's a godsend because it's not.
^ Because you are a console gamer, you're not getting why steam is respected. DRM has to exist on PC in one form or another given its open nature. It existed before Steam. All Steam did was make DRM relatively painless. If you played on PC, you'd know there are a lot of alternatives to steam, but almost all are some form of DRM as well. The fact that steam is DRM stops being a negative once you recognize that it isn't alone, yet at the same time has a slew of features that put it ahead of its competitors. The only real option to avoid DRM is to not play on PC at all... but then you'd have to buy a console, where games are more expensive and the big two console manufacturers want to charge you extra for something as basic as multiplayer. animegamingnerd's comment stated his opinion that he thinks steam is the best gaming service there is. If you disagree, then try naming a different service that you think is better.
"Am I the only one who thinks PSN and Steam are equally as good but in different ways" Now that you're going to be forced into buying PS+, PSN falls far short of Steam.
@Ducky: Sure, I'll name a service that's better. None. No service whatsoever. It's called the old school gamer service. It's where you buy a game, pop it in, and play it. It's been around long before Steam and isn't riddled with corporate B.S. or people accepting the theft of basic rights simply because they think it's "painless." Do you know for every person that thinks a service like Steam is painless, there is another person who has a story that says otherwise? Do you know that unless you've used other services besides Steam, you can't say ALL OTHER SERVICES are DRM? Off the top of my head I can think of one that has no DRM period. GOG ring a bell?
DragonKnight, you are a Playstation fanboy and it's clear what your motivation is. Those guys are right that you wouldn't have had a problem if it was somebody praising something about the PS4. Anyway, Steam is a great service and it's fantastic the way it has evolved over the years.
@starchild: Think about what you said there. You're calling me a playstation fanboy. Did I mention Sony or Playstation anywhere in my initial comment? Did I once say that PSN was, in any way, better than Steam at all? If I'm the fanboy you're claiming I am, why didn't I mention Sony at all until someone else replied to me and brought up Sony? This has nothing to do with Sony. I'm not at all interested in if Steam is better than PSN or not. The two aren't competing at all and it's pointless to compare them to each other. No, what happened is insecure people saw a non-existent attack on Steam and pounced with their hate to get a pre-emptive jump on any future shifts in topic. You have nothing to provide that can prove I had any motivation in making the statement that PSN is better than Steam. Especially because I have never said that anywhere, and you can fish through my comment history to prove that yourself. @luoshuigui: First of all, enjoy the Personal Attack. Secondly, Steam hasn't beaten free. Free will never be beaten. PC gamers will pirate games out of principle and you should know that. So no, Steam hasn't beaten free. And secondly, Steam's success is literally due to the Steam sales, not because it offers some epic level service that can't be beaten. Try getting a refund on Steam after the very first time you do so, it's like pulling teeth from a tiger's mouth. All those people that pre-ordered Aliens: Colonial Marines on Steam? Yep, screwed. Such a wonderful service that is. Steam may be the preferred choice due to the fact that it has weathered the test of time, but don't act like it's the greatest thing to happen to gaming since games went 3D, that it's completely perfect and absolutely no one has ever had any problems with it because it is the Messiah of online game distribution services. It's amazing how many people act like saying that someone who says "Steam is the greatest gaming service out there" is not an opinion that everyone shares is the same thing as murdering a baby in front of its parents. Gabe Newell isn't going to eat you for having a criticism of Steam, nor will you get any better service for pledging your very soul to its defence.
@DragonKnight Your response to my question was basically a cop out. You have to play games on a platform, and most platforms have a heavily integrated online service. ... besides, it seems after all your wailing, you agree that Steam is the best gaming service there is. Not sure why you had to make such a big fuss. ---- "Do you know for every person that thinks a service like Steam is painless, there is another person who has a story that says otherwise?" No. What I do know is that you made that statement up. You'd have to live under a rock to not realize how liked steam is. To suggest that for each happy experience there is an unhappy one is nonsense. -------- "Do you know that unless you've used other services besides Steam, you can't say ALL OTHER SERVICES are DRM? Off the top of my head I can think of one that has no DRM period. GOG ring a bell?" Seems you have some reading comprehesion trouble there, considering that you had trouble figuring out No_Limit's sarcasm and actually reading what I wrote. I said that ALMOST all other services are DRM. I have used other services, and I am familiar with GoG and have bought games from there as well. I also know that their selection is mostly limited to old games. If the game selection is poor, it's going to fail at its most basic goal: being a gaming platform/service. -------- "This has nothing to do with Sony. I'm not at all interested in if Steam is better than PSN or not. The two aren't competing at all and it's pointless to compare them to each other. No, what happened is insecure people saw a non-existent attack on Steam and pounced with their hate to get a pre-emptive jump on any future shifts in topic. " As No_Limit pointed out, you're guilty of this exact thing when you made the comment about Xbox One. Are you familiar with Mr.Pot? ----- Your unfamiliarity with Steam shows when you say that Steam's success is due to sales. The actual data says that piracy is a service issue, not a price issue. This is what Valve has stated and shown in interviews, and what other publishers are starting to notice too, hence why the shift to more services like streaming being integrated into games. In a sense, Steam has beaten free because it has made pirates purchase games out of their own free will rather than forcing them through some DRM roadblock. You want to criticize Steam, go ahead. I don't think there's many people that believe is a perfect service. The problem so far is that your complaints have mostly been false. The few valid criticisms you've presented are not unique to Steam, and they're issues which you can't escape no matter which platform you play on. There, now this thread can go on into obscurity.
@Ducky, "I have used other services, and I am familiar with GoG and have bought games from there as well. I also know that their selection is mostly limited to old games. If the game selection is poor, it's going to fail at its most basic goal: being a gaming platform/service." Precisely. You won't see games like Bioshock: Infinite there at least for a few years when the demand goes down. Steam is much more than just the sales they have. The community is awesome fort one thing. Valve is also very supportive of both publishers and gamers, more so than we've see on consoles. They also have all the reward systems in place, gifting games to people, having things like crafting coal. Do you see Microsoft, Nintendo or Sony having something like that, where you can buy items for dirt cheap and get tickets for each game and take a chance at winning free games? Or trading that coal with others for games? Steam has these things every year and it's so much fun. I got so many free games from the community doing that. Publishers love them and gamers love Steam. What more can be said? You will get that on consoles too but I doubt reaching the same positive level overall. GoG and another one starting with a D (can't remember it) are small potatoes. They have few selection and are cheaper and/or older titles.
This sounds awesome!
In before someone makes the connection of Twitch Tv partnering with Steam and Microsoft so obviously Steam will be on the Xbox One. Because you know someone (besides me just stating it) will do so.
Go home you cynical little loser who tries to hate on Steam just for being "different and cool". Steam is the best DD service ever existed, it proves that by crushing all the competition including your sad little GOG at same time being loved by almost all of its users. So you can keep waving your tiny fist to Steam but no one gives a shit about you, meanwhile people are piling up waiting for Steam's next summersale, sad world for you eh?
This is a good move on steam and finally. I always hoping they would make a move like this and they did! Good job!!!
Yes, finally, Steam will be on Xbox One, Half Life 3 console exclusive confirmed!!!! :) /S
Called it above.
That's the joke. :D
Meanwhile on uStream :P
Steam on Xbox 1...really, I just started using this twitch thing lol, I like it. I'm thinking of gaming on the PC again. Anybody knows how twitch will be implemented on XBL?
You guys want facts? Ok here's a fact, Steam absolutely crushes xbl and psn when it comes to sales. And I'm a primary 360, pc, ps3 (in that order) user. Everything else is debatable...
I just dont understand how some people have so many bubbles
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