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How Xbox One’s reputation system is better than Xbox 360′s

VB - Microsoft is beefing up its Xbox Live reputation system to group trolls with one another in matchmaking.

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FrightfulActions1868d ago

This has to be the one and only thing Xbox is doing that I actually like. Being pessimistic I have to imagine they'll find someway to ruin it. One of those "great in theory, terrible in practice" type deals.

B-radical1868d ago

Troll vs troll how id love to listen to there rants

HammadTheBeast1868d ago

But the problem is when players are reported or voted on for being too good, or just having different opinions. For example, in MP, some people are chill while others want to go for the win.

FrightfulActions1868d ago

@Hammad

True but they say they address that type of trolling based off of factors such as your score. They claim they can tell if the negative votes are just out of spite or if they're genuine.

I doubt it will really work out as wonderfully as they make it sound but in theory its a nice idea. Especially on a console like Xbox which, based off the past generation, is absolutely polluted with cursing children and obnoxious teens.

Personally would prefer to see some kind of age filter added so that you could keep the kids out of your lobbies. Considering the rating for a lot of these games are M for mature anyway it would be nice if there wasn't a sea of cursing youths.

I have my doubts about it but I still hope it works out and 'takes off' as being a popular, good idea. If the program works then maybe Sony will adopt a similar one. Since I'm only getting a PS4 that would be great. With it coming with headsets now we're probably going to be seeing a lot more of 'those types'.

SilentNegotiator1868d ago

Knowing how finicky some mods are (Not N4G mods...they're the best moderators in the entire internet), I don't trust anything like this.

WeAreLegion1868d ago

Yeah. N4G mods are greatbubblesmorebubblesplease. I love them.

SilentNegotiator1868d ago (Edited 1868d ago )

Darn it, my plot has been outed!

flipflopfacts1868d ago

Just another "restriction" added to Xbone's library. It just gets worse and worse. I mean it does sound like a good idea and I would support it 100% but isn't it up to the user to learn how to use the mute button?

flipflopfacts1868d ago (Edited 1868d ago )

Restriction, restriction, restriction xbone is full of restrictions. People should just steer clear of all the bad rep this console is getting.

the original list of restrictions:

used games

always online

mandatory Kinect

and now voice chat.

I'm glad Microsoft did a 180 on the online issue but how long are people going to continue support this sham of a console compared to the 360.

Mystogan1868d ago

What? This is only a benefit for gamers.

flipflopfacts1868d ago (Edited 1868d ago )

@Mystogan

It benefits some but not all.

The best policy is to allow enough freedom so the community can thrive. Microsoft should go back to focusing on how to enhance the gamer's experience like they did with the 360 and a lot less with all these restrictions.

andibandit1868d ago (Edited 1868d ago )

I dont see any restrictions here, merely a "You reap what you sow" system.

And indeed users could just use the mute button, but i dont see why 20 users should do this, because 1 person is a idiot. That would be avoiding the problem, not solving it.

flipflopfacts1868d ago (Edited 1868d ago )

@andibandit

so you don't see the fact that they're limiting the users who you can talk to?

Users should be able to talk freely at will. If you don't like it mute them. It only takes a a couple of actions.

It's basically a software created by Microsoft to force you to talk to people of "your own kind". A system built to segregate.

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B-radical1868d ago

Ive just noticed this article has stayed on 90 degrees but it was one 110 degrees just before

torchic1868d ago

N4G has been broken for the last 24 hours.

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slazer1011868d ago

I can't believe I'm saying this this but this actually sound like a good idea. So tired of players acting like jerks and tough guys just because they are on the Internet. When you know they would never do half that shit in the real world.

MikeMyers1868d ago

Agreed. It's too bad N4G doesn't adopt something like this.

It's going to be interesting seeing all the comments on the forums of those trolls whining about how their reputation got ruined while playing Xbox Live. This is what I don't get with people, how they conduct themselves online with others. You often wonder if they would act this way face to face.

No_Limit1868d ago (Edited 1868d ago )

You read my mind MikeMyers. If it can create an online gaming equivalent similar to the now deceased "Open Zone", where the trolls and bad-mouths gamers can go rot and enjoy themselves, and leave the mature gamers to enjoy online games with each others, then it is well worth the investment on MS part.

JokesOnYou1868d ago (Edited 1868d ago )

I agree this reputation overhaul sounds very nice, but I always wonder why people complain so much about trash talkers or rude foul mouth gamers when you can easily just mute them???

hakesterman1868d ago

Most of the punks that shoot their mouths online can't be found in a group discussion because they lack social skills. They can't get punched in the face by typing something to someone who is 900 miles away.

Evil_Ryu1868d ago

bubble for your first comment

SilentNegotiator1868d ago (Edited 1868d ago )

Are you sure you want that for N4G? Are you sure you would get the placement that you wanted? No offense, but there's a reason you don't exactly have 8 bubbles (and it isn't "teh fanbois").

GribbleGrunger1868d ago (Edited 1868d ago )

I agree. I think that everyone, regardless of their reputation, should be given 8 bubbles. The only difference would be that instead of losing bubbles, the bubbles turn red one at a time.

I think it's wrong that some people cannot reply to a poster, even if the majority of posts from them are personal attacks or out and out trolling. Sometimes they STILL have something interesting to contribute and sometimes it's the very fact they only have one bubble that makes them less likely to make an effort.

Freedom of speech dictates that we have to accept the good with the bad.

MikeMyers1867d ago (Edited 1867d ago )

I'll have to respectfully disagree, GribbleGrunger. I lost some of my bubbles for going after certain people I thought did not represent this community very well, and still don't. But maybe they do represent what this place is and I'm just too naive to admit it. I find N4G to be lopsided and not representing all the communities of gamers that well. There is way too much of an influx of Playstation fans for whatever reason here. There's nothing wrong with that, I'm one of them but with every community you get your vocal groups out there where it's all about attention and clashing with others. Basically fanboys and haters. So when you have such a heavy presence of Playstation fans you're bound to have a very biased community. All the other systems forums added up together still fall short of the Playstation forum. That will not bring healthy debates. I myself am also a Nintendo fan, an Xbox fan and a PC fan. What some fail to realize is you can be a fan and not a fanboy.

Now if I was on Xbox Live that wouldn't have happened because the system makes it very difficult to keep playing with those people and this new variation (or improvement if you will) will make it even more difficult for them.

Sometimes that is the only way you can make people accountable for their actions online, to punish them somehow. Of course there needs to be some balance in it all. There's nothing wrong with some good old fashioned ribbing but some people just take freedom of speech too far. Freedom of speech doesn't apply in the first place because it's a private service, just like here. Every forum and online community has their own set of rules. This forum for example has a lot of stealth trolling and fanboyism. This clashes with the community and they know it. It's all about attention. Going on Xbox Live and clashing with others isn't what most people want while playing online. Most people don't want to be harassed, have music blaring in their headsets, called racial names or get verbal threats. Most also don't think highly of those who team kill, drive in racing games just to cause accidents and bug people, block other players from accessing doors. All of that immature crap.

When you play games on Xbox Live (or any service) it's to enjoy those games and have fun with others. Do you see that on N4G? Do you see people acting like gamers or does most of the attention span from certain groups trying to alienate themselves from one another? Most of the highly active topics seem to be either about console wars in some way or something controversial. With a lot of fanboyism mixed in and trolling in the comment sections.

I play online to have fun. Some people for whatever reason have fun bugging others. That's where the system needs to step in and take the responsibility those individuals refuse to do on their own. Hopefully making them accountable will force them to change their behavior because even when your reputation falls on Xbox Live you can still improve it. Notice how some people on here were at 1 bubble for like forever? They obviously don't care because it is possible to gain bubbles, but on Xbox Live we won't have to worry about it while they are at the bottom.

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rainslacker1868d ago

Yeah, if it works the way they're promoting it, it has a lot of potential, and I'm all for promoting a healthy play environment for everyone that wants it.

Typically reputation systems are prone to abuse, like say N4G's bubble system(similar concept), but they seem like they have put quite a bit of thought into it.

It's really a shame though that people would need something like this to be respectful towards others, but guess that's the way the internet is.:(

Wouldn't mind seeing a personality score, and a per game rating as well. Could help keep matches more even.

KILLERAPP1868d ago

Good evolution over the 360 version. Little details like this is what makes console different from each other. Competition is key to drive advances.

Brute_Shot_Adam1868d ago

This would be great. People will abuse it though with fake reports or just flat-out soar losers. Still, should be a good evolution of XBL.

MikeMyers1868d ago

The system is always recording but I'm not sure for how long. So in theory you could send real reports. They have done things to counter abuse.

http://ca.ign.com/articles/...

"Lavin clarifies that there's no way for players to torpedo your Reputation when you've done nothing wrong, too. "The way that it's built fundamentally stops that," he says. "It's very much over a period of time. If we see consistently that people, for instance, don't like playing with you, that you're consistently blocked, that you're the subject of enforcement actions because you're sending naked pictures of yourself to people that don't want naked pictures of you.... Blatant things like that have the ability to quickly reduce your Reputation score."

http://kotaku.com/xbox-ones...

"It's not just about simply leaving a rating. Now if you mute another player, it will affect their reputation. If you ban another player from your server for misbehaving, it affects their reputation. And if you decide you don't like another player and urge the entirety of your newly-expanded friends list to complain about them? Well, that's where the safeguards come into play."

"It's not just about collecting data, but how the system uses and weighs the data collected. If a dozen people suddenly report a single user, the system looks at a variety of factors before laying the smackdown. Did each of those players actually play in an online game with the person they reported? If not, all of their complaints won't equal that of a single person who spent 15 minutes playing Call of Duty online with the reported party. The system also looks at the reputation of both the person reporting and the alleged offender, the frequency of reports from a single user — it's a system the team plans on tweaking constantly for balance and fairness, but it sounds like they're off to a stellar start."

slazer1011868d ago

They also need to be able to track people falsely reporting,if that's possible. That would make it pretty balanced.

xhi41868d ago

I like this! They should do something similar on PS4, although I find on PSN I don't usually find immature and annoying idiots.

YNWA961868d ago

Yeah right, they are everywhere.... Gave up many games on both systems because of these dicks...

Urusernamesucks1868d ago

Well the main reason kids bought a 360 was because it was cheaper, soo you cant always be sure.

slazer1011868d ago

There are plenty of jerks on PSN believe you me. People are the same no matter what console they own..

SJPFTW1868d ago

LOL I guess you are barely on PSN. There are asshole galore. But really...personally I find the ratio even across PS3, Xbox and PC.

RM-TatoTiburon1868d ago

and on PSN not everybody have a headset

abcde123451868d ago

I don't see what that has to do with anything...

Swiggins1868d ago

I hear less people on mics typically....but I recieve twice the number of insulting, racist, sexist, ect messages on the PSN.

Especially playing a game like Demons Souls...christ, you'd think every person I killed suddenly wished a pox on my house.

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