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Submitted by eezo 542d ago | news

"PS4 Bites Back: Sharper Gaming Teeth Make Xbox One Look Like a Meek Media PC" says Stuff Magazine

Suff Magazine has revealed the front cover of its August 2013 issue, and guess what it has on it, Sony's next-gen Playstation console "PS4" with a tagline "PS4 Bites Back" and "Sharper Gaming Teeth Make Xbox One Look Like a Meek Media PC". (Microsoft, PS4, Sony, Xbox One)

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SniperControl  +   542d ago | Well said
The juggernaut that is PS4, keeps on rolling!

Good to see that serious tech magazines are finally getting on Sony's side for this next gen.
zeee  +   542d ago | Well said
PS4 + Hot chick = WIN :)
YNWA96   542d ago | Immature | show
SniperControl  +   542d ago | Well said
@Gman0174
No chance, i'am married. lol
KillrateOmega  +   542d ago | Well said
@Gman0174
Insulting people for appreciating a cool piece of tech and an attractive woman, then assuming that we have no life?

You sound like a very secure, pleasant individual who gets all the ladies.../s
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N4Flamers  +   542d ago | Funny
"Someday you might make life"

I get to play god too? Awesome
G20WLY  +   542d ago
^ N4Flamers "I get to play god too? Awesome"

EXCLUSIVE PS4 feature, right there lol! ;P

OT: This is an incredibly bold magazine cover - reminds me of the Edge one from last week.

The media won't suffer MS antics anymore than us gamers...good job too. MS need to be hit in the pocket before they will change their ways and this is a strong message to them. Here's hoping it works and they buck their ideas up...
YNWA96  +   542d ago
@ Sniper, yeah, under that hook too, but its a good life, I left out humour as well... people to serious about hardware and paintshop pictures of women, but married life is good... when the wife cannot think of what to get me anymore, I just leave gadget magazines laying around.... works! :)

@ Killrate, relax, it was a statement that asked for a response... take it easy.... I am sure Zeee was more interested in the polygons on the babe than the PS4... or at least I hope so!
MWong  +   542d ago
@Gman0174

It's true haters are gonna hate.

Great cover, this isn't the last article like this we are going to see in the upcoming months.
insomnium2  +   542d ago
I wish we get a whole new MS after this console nosedives (hopefully)completely. As they are MS is nothing but a parasite to this industry ever since x360 launched imo. They always give less than they take.
TheGrimReaper0011  +   542d ago
To the hot chick:
"Do you come with the console?"
tawak  +   542d ago
@gman0174
He wants the cover to be a xbox1 controller and a macho man on steroids holding it. Turns him on :)
Army_of_Darkness  +   542d ago
I use to subscribe to STUFF magazine.
So I'm very surprised that they put the PS4 on the front cover!! wow! Talk about a positive start for Sony!
MuhammadJA  +   542d ago
You're only seeing legs, how's she hot again?
Gekko36  +   542d ago
replace with XBOX and half naked man and I'd be happy
gaelic_laoch  +   542d ago
@TheGrimReaper0011

It could be a bloke!!!
Ezz2013  +   542d ago
*looking at the magazine cover*

hmmmmmm, Dat Sexy ........ Ps4
NatureOfLogic  +   542d ago
So I'm the only one who thinks that the DS4 is actually more sexy than the chick holding it? :)
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Ritsujun  +   542d ago
PS4>Bewbs
pixelsword  +   542d ago
PS4 + Hot chick(wife) = Sex. Then gaming.

Then more sex.
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Kevin ButIer  +   542d ago
wow she is hot indeed
XisThatKid  +   540d ago
@Gman0174, Ready for coincidence time? I have a Great GF and even better I DO indeed get to make life I "started" the day PS4 was revealed now the "life I made" comes out Nov 18th....hopefully by then I'll have my PS4 already as well.
Septic  +   542d ago
Yeah but do you think the Xbox One looks like a 'Meek Media PC' in comparison?

I don't think that headline is justifiable at all. The X1, albeit weaker of the two consoles, still is an extremely capable machine. Yes its previous policies and mandatory Kinect left a lot to be desired, but what can the PS4 do that the X1 can't?

Or am I wrong?
Good_news_every1   542d ago | Spam
Run_bare  +   542d ago | Well said
The PS4 can change the nature Xbox One, e.g. DRM, 24hrs online check in, etc.

Without PS4, XBOX One will still have the restriction today.

That is why PS4 is a Win for everyone, beside, they have the strongest specifications compare to X1.
Geezus  +   542d ago
@septic your right but your on a sony dominated website so your "wrong"
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MariaHelFutura  +   542d ago | Well said
"but what can the PS4 do that the X1 can't?"

Be better, smaller, cheaper, keeps playing w/o a camera, gives straight PR answers and never requires an internet connection.
Jdoki  +   542d ago | Well said
I think what they are getting at is that Sony have sent some clear messages, but MS have not and it's making them look meek and apologetic.

Sony have made their aims clear:
1. We have made a games console
2. We have the best 1st party devs in the world
3. We embrace all developers, and in particular Indie devs
4. We are the champion of all gamers, and will defend the hardcore

In comparison MS can't seem to send out a clear message. How many 'clarifications of clarifications' have we seen.

MS have made it unclear:
1. We think DRM is the future, except, umm, we can't give a reason why.
2. We have the cloud, that does ermmm, something to turbo charge games, but we promise it's great
3. We love Indie devs, really, honestly, just don't listen to the top indie devs saying the opposite
4. We say hardware specs don't matter, except when we say they do matter
5. We have loads of games and are expanding 1st party studios, but err, yeah, umm, Ryse anyone?
6. Halo TV show anyone? We have The Spielbergs
7. It's rocket science level stuff
8. Halo 5 anyone?
9. Kinect 2.... It does, stuff, and is going to be better supported than Kinect 1, honest, but we have no games to prove it because Ryse is now controller only.
10. We have a clear strategy of integrating with existing cable boxes, and providing innovative ways of watching TV, just err, don't ask what we're delivering outside of the US.

I have no doubt in terms of hardware that multiplats will look similar, but MS have done a really bad job convincing anyone that XBox is a serious brand for gamers.
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Septic  +   542d ago
@Jdoki

Great response but then it isn't necessarily the console itself that's the problem, its MS itself and the way it's handling the situation.

'Meek Media PC' just doesn't seem to make sense at all. It's as if this article was written post X1 reveal but pre E3.

Btw, none of the replies have thus far explained why the description above is justified.
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Jdoki  +   542d ago
@Septic

I absolutely agree. The problem isn't the console, it's the message MS have given.

Nuts is a sensationalist magazine, so they are using an extreme comparison. It may not be fair, but when have we ever seen credible journalistic integrity in the industry!
morganfell  +   542d ago
@Geezus,

Where were you for the past 5 years? Half of this turn is brought on by MS themselves, is very recent. And Sonylistening to the devs and gamers brought the other half. Apparently you missed all the PS3 is teh doomed articles. So many that at one point every hottest article in the main stream at the top of the page was about Sony's imminent death.

It's called karma so you had better get used to it.
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sentury111  +   542d ago
So, is there anything the PS4 can do that the X1 can't.

And don't list any exclusives. Seriously.
Picnic  +   542d ago
Explode stuff up in to lots more particles than ever before it appears. At least that's what Sony's demos, Knack included, were at pains to show. If the XboxOne is also capable of it they weren't concentrating on showing it.
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Nicaragua  +   542d ago
@Septic
You are right the problem is the way MS is handling the siutaion - but these are the guys you are entrusting your expensive entertainment to for the next 7 years and to be honest they are making themselves out to look like complete bell-ends.

The only trace of direction they have points to casual, their track record of providing games throughout a consoles life cycle is abysmal, and the management team has no idea what they are doing - this is the situation.
DARK WITNESS  +   542d ago
@ sentury111

MS have said nothing about being able to take over a friends console and play their game. That was one feature I thought was interesting from sony's part.

There are some features I have not heard MS talk about but I would assume the xb1 can do them like power off and resume a game from where you powered off (like a pause function I guess) etc...

being able to take over a friends controller and play their game remotely, not heard them mention that at all.
solar  +   542d ago
"but what can the PS4 do that the X1 can't?"

nothing. both are going to be nearly the same when it comes to multiplats, just like last gen, that sell more and gather more attention to consumers. exclusives, both will have their advantages over the other.
flipflopfacts  +   542d ago
Xbox one is like the tabloid section on N4G. It's just there to look nice.
Septic  +   542d ago
45 disagrees....a dozen or so responses and not one response that gave a reasonable answer to my question:

"what can the PS4 do that the X1 can't".

So, why am I being disagreed with again? Ah nevermind. I know the answer.
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sentury111  +   542d ago
@Dark Witness I remember hearing about that feature. That could be useful. Hopefully it's something MS implements. Do you know if it's on the developers end or will be done on all games?
flipflopfacts  +   542d ago
@Disagree

I guess the Xbox one doesn't look nice...
YNWA96  +   542d ago
@ Geezus,
You are correct, but obviously wrong. PS4 also makes lunch...
DragonKnight  +   542d ago
@Septic: Technically speaking, there is nothing that either console can do that the other can't excluding peripherals. The difference is focus and implementation which makes the PS4 look like a gaming console compared to the Xbox One looking like a media PC.

For example, the Xbox One has dedicated 3GB of RAM for their media based OS' while the PS4 has dedicated 1GB of RAM for it's entire OS. When you have 5GB of RAM for gaming vs. 7GB of RAM, it's not hard to look at which one is designed for gaming first and which one isn't.

Then you have the huge focus placed on Smartglass.

So from a technical perspective they both can do what they both can do, but aren't focused that way.
NewMonday  +   542d ago | Well said
@Septic
"what can the PS4 do that the X1 can't?"

- it can do 50% more TFLOPS (better graphics)
- GPU can do computations (more CPU potential)
- 8gb of unified GDDR5 RAM will give better textures, frame rates and faster loading.
- developers can "code to the metal" giving even more power.
- better social features
- always recording game-play, no need for set up or "ordering" before hand.
- instant sharing
- play any game remotely on Vita
- 3rd party games will run better
- better design and more compact
- larger number of 1st party studios bring much more exclusives and with variety.
- no need for power brick
- more games for launch
- easy development and self-publishing will give the PS4 a bigger games library
- many free games and discounts with PS+
- consumer trust
- all for $100 less

had enough?

you can futilely downplay these points, but this why the PS4 is taking all the hype.
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Death  +   542d ago
What can the PS4 do that the Xbox One can't?

Both are x86 based machines, both have Blu-ray, both have sufficient ram at 8 gigs, both use a custom GPU by AMD. Essentially they are the same machine. The differences being form factor and choice of RAM. It is unclear how much different they will be in a real world environment. They both even have a paid online service too.

So what is different? Exclusives obviously. But not what you are looking for and kind of a moot point since it's all on personal preference. The one thing it will do the Xbox One won't is integration with the Vita, but it's not clear how much will be done. Same can be said of Microsoft's integration with smart glass.

Honestly the question should be, what can the XboxOne do that the PS4 can't? This one is kind of obvious with the inclusion of Kinect. The camera and mic included with every system gives you added features the PS4 doesn't. Voice commands and movement/gesture controls are one thing. The HDMI input and integration with your cable provider is another. Being connected to all your friends at all times while the tv is on is another. The Xbox One is a "connected" console that embraces social gaming and media.

I guess the biggest thing the PS4 does is offer less in the box. Playstation fans call this choice and label it as "freedom". They aren't being "forced" to have more features. They are being forced to pay to play online though. That must be the karma I was reading about up above.
Septic  +   542d ago
@newmonday

- it can do 50% more TFLOPS (better graphics)
- GPU can do computations (more CPU potential)
- 8gb of unified GDDR5 RAM will give better textures, frame rates and faster loading.

** All this makes the X1 a meek media pc? Hold on, didn't developers like Kojima and others say there was no notable difference?

- developers can "code to the metal" giving even more power.

** Right...so you're basically reguritating your previous point and then making things up here. Should I take your word over Kojima's?

- better social features
** How?

- always recording game-play, no need for set up or "ordering" before hand.
** And how do you know the X1 doesn't do this? Last I read, the PS4 was supposedly recording around 3 minutes backlog. Where are your links?

- instant sharing
** What? Why is this not possible on X1??

- play any game remotely on Vita
**Okay- that's good.
- 3rd party games will run better
**Right okay
- better design and more compact
** I thought N4G said it didn't matter what the box looked like after the Feb reveal remember? But okay...this is hardly a big point is it.

- larger number of 1st party studios bring much more exclusives and with variety.
**Hmm so MS investing $1 billion means nothing to you I guess. You'll also downplay the launch line-up of the X1 no doubt.

- no need fore power brick
** Okay...this is a big point?

- more games for launch
**Quality over quantity. Titanfall may not be launch but its the best rated E3 game and is coming out on the X1 first.

- easy development and self-publishing will give the PS4 a bigger games library
- many free games and discounts with PS+
- all for $100 less
- consumer trust
**ALL of the above irrelevant to question of how the PS4 looks like a 'Meed Media PC'

I'm sorry but your response was poor.

The answer clearly lies in the way MS bodged things up in the manner in which they handled things. The console itself however is impressive. Do note that I haven't mentioned the things the X1 can.

[edit] the chap above me has mentioned them
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sentury111  +   542d ago
@ death That's what should be talked about. What can't the PS4 do that the X1 can.

Hardware specs put aside, PS4 with DDR5 and Xbox with esram and the 4 emotion chips and slightly different GPUs they are very similar.

People hate on the idea of the cloud because they talk about infinite power. But the X1 just needs a little more to surpass the PS4 not 4TFs. That is very doable with current tech.

The X1 has way more features the PS4 can't touch because of the hardware that differentiates it like Kinect, hdmi in and software. If you want it or not the Xbox has more ability.
G20WLY  +   542d ago
@Septic, Newmonday posted a worthy response to YOUR question (copied from your post above):

"45 disagrees....a dozen or so responses and not one response that gave a reasonable answer to my question:

"what can the PS4 do that the X1 can't"."

He gets a 'Helpful' bubble from me for taking the time to reply, only for you to move the goalposts and throw his efforts back in his face. smh

As for the 'meek media PC' jibe, that was stuff magazine, not 'N4G fanboys', so maybe calm down and pick it up with the publishers directly, that way your frustration might serve a purpose.

Personally, I do agree with your point, that it's less to do with the tech and more to do with Microsoft's positioning of it that enables Stuff magazine to get away with headlines like this.
TheTwelve  +   542d ago
"What can the PS4 do that the X1 can't".

Here's my take:

1. The PS4 does indeed have greater hardware. It's hardware more focused on gaming rather than media. The resulting graphics will depend on the developer, but the potential will be greater on the PS4. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder but I believe the PS4 has clearer and already shown better graphics in their first batch of games than the X1 has.

2.Microsoft will not be able to catch up with Sony in these endeavors: 1st party investment, indie support, Playstation+. They may come along and try to copy Sony, but Sony is already leagues ahead.

3. The X1 will not sell around the world like the PS4 will. The pre-orders around in different regions show that the initial race will only be closer in the US. This will and always has meant more support will go to the most relevant console.

4. The PS4 has, if you will, the "trust" of the hardcore gaming community. The X1, if you will can't get that back.

5.The PS4 will always be better bang for your buck. Always.

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P.S. People act like the PS4 and X1 is two companies starting from the same starting block. This is very far from the truth. Sony is starting from a position of reaching its stride from this gen. All of the positive things surrounding it began in the latter part of this gen. It's going to be very hard for Microsoft to catch up and 2013 is showing that clearly.
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Funnymonkey013  +   542d ago
Well 4 one it has way better 1rst party games and games that can't be done on it unless downgrade 4 x1. 2 ps plus is way better now then live 3rd it has free 2 play games that one of them planet side 2 I'm sure cant be done on x1. 4th it's more future proof console with better specks wich means we will c lots of features that r only on ps4. And last the price u would be a fool to buy a weaker system 4 more money then a better console 4 less.
NatureOfLogic  +   542d ago
Here are two important thing to me that PS4 can do and X1 can't. Try any game instantly without downloading the game and B/C through "cloud" service(PS1, PS2 and PS3 games).
shinrock  +   542d ago
On this site ur wrong.
Death  +   542d ago
B/C through cloud service? You and I have much different definitions of backward compatability. Buying games again as a download is hardly incentive to buy a PS4. Playing my PS3 games on my PS4 would be nice. If you are saying the PS4 will recognize my PS3 games and download them for free, I'm all over it.

The amount of ram being used by the PS4 vs the XboxOne is an interesting debate. I see some say that having less for the OS is better. I'm not sure how being able to do less in the background is more. Both consoles are watered down PC's by design. Battlefield 3 as an example has recommended specs of 4 gigs of ram and 1 gig on the video card. http://bf3blog.com/battlefi...

Both current consoles also played the game with much much less. If my PC with 16gigs of ram on the mb and 2 gigs of ram on the videocard plays the same game, what's the point of all the extra cash I dumped? The difference is in the settings. I can play the game maxed and still have insane framerates while a "lesser" system may look the same, but have a frame rate drop. The PS4 and XboxOne should look identical with a possible difference in frame rates if the same formula runs true.

An interesting thing to see will be what the consoles can also do while gaming and how it affects performance. I bought 16 gigs of ram since I also use my PC as a media center. Any number of devices can access my media content while I play without taking a hit on performance. With 3 gigs of ram being used for OS on the Xbox, it would make sense that it has more capability while gaming. The PS4 with 1/3 the ram allocated will have to choose what it does and when.

What does this mean for gaming? Consoles have always done more with less compared to PC's. If a current PC game utilizes 5 gigs for gaming when they have access to much more, why would the PS4 benefit from the additional ram? Third parties developing for PC, XboxOne and the PS4 aren't going to make games any different and there is no business model that rewards developers that spend more money making games. The PS3 with it's blu-ray drive had the potential to make games 2-3 times longer than DVD based games or atleast with 2-3 times as many textures.

It didn't happen. Having potential isn't the same as actually having something. The PS4 with it's 2 more gigs of ram dedicated to games doesn't necessarily mean it will use it. I would love to see it happen, but history has shown having the ability to do something doesn't make it happen.

We will see later this year when both consoles launch and we actually play the games and use the services.
airgangstarr  +   541d ago
the xbox 1 does a hell of alot more then the ps4 if u ask me.. the biggest game in the industry whether we like it or not is cod an where do cod players play? ill answer on xbox live so that bein said xbox 1 wont nosedive gout outta buisness... the fact u can be on skype will playin a game at the same time jus gives gamers more time to play before u had to stop playin now u dont... do u really need this feature no but why not its gonna be sweet for sure....ull be streaming on xbox 1 to twicth tv where do all gamers go twitch tv not uplay the whole tv crap , the kinect crap i mean overall besides specs id say xbox offers more an bein there upgrading xbox live which allready shits all over psn can u imagine playin on dedictaed servers another thing ps wont have.. i dunno why so many people like playstation more then xbox but thats there choice i dont see a comparision yea sony is a better hardware developer an there system all seems stronger but how did that help the ps3?

to each there own ill have both but unless psn is upgraded drastically ill be on xbox most of the time jus like last gen
Septic  +   541d ago
"He gets a 'Helpful' bubble from me for taking the time to reply, only for you to move the goalposts and throw his efforts back in his face. smh "

I replied to his every point. How else did I come to the conclusion that his points were weak? How have I moved the goalposts? His last few points didn't even relate to the console!

The standards on here are quiet low it appears when it comes to what is regarded as Well said.
G20WLY  +   540d ago
A 'helpful' bubble, not 'well said' - what's wrong with you?! lol

And you moved the goalposts because, he responded to your question only for you to say along the lines, "oh I didn't mean that question, I meant another one", lmao lame...

And the standards are quite low on this site, when people don't know the difference between the words 'quite' and 'quiet' pmsl! ;P

What about you raging at him for something he never even said? Re ‘meek media PC’?! Yours was a foaming rant, nothing more.

Finally, you gave me a lecture on 'opinions' a while ago and how everyone’s' is relevant; perhaps some self-reflection is in order for you, little man...
Septic  +   540d ago
"A 'helpful' bubble, not 'well said' - what's wrong with you?! lol "

There's nothing wrong me with kid, he got a Well Said bubble. Look at the comment. See it? Do you get it now or should I go slower for you?

"And you moved the goalposts because, he responded to your question only for you to say along the lines, "oh I didn't mean that question, I meant another one", lmao lame... "

How old are you kid? I explained it to you already, I broke down his every reply and his final set of statements didn't even refer to the console itself. So he digresses and you criticise me of changing goal posts?

"And the standards are quite low on this site, when people don't know the difference between the words 'quite' and 'quiet' pmsl! ;P "

Wow, so you're going to call me out for an auto correct error? How desperate are you? I'm willing to bet I'm far more educated than you. Want to place a wager?

"What about you raging at him for something he never even said? Re ‘meek media PC’?! Yours was a foaming rant, nothing more.

Finally, you gave me a lecture on 'opinions' a while ago and how everyone’s' is relevant; perhaps some self-reflection is in order for you, little man..."

Ha! Feeling brave behind that keyboard are we? You need more than a lecture judging by your complete inability to comprehend anything I say. Carry on being as clueless as you are.
G20WLY  +   539d ago
Testy, aren’t we? You’re my bitch now, enjoy! ;)

Are you a politician? You should be; you talk a lot, without making any notable contribution. I’ll give you one thing; what you lack in debate, you make up for in circumvention.

How old am I? What judgement would you apply if you knew the answer to this? Would it make you feel good if you were older? Younger? I’m intrigued; indulge me with your rationale. Smh

“Auto-correct error”. You realise that in order to be auto-corrected, you had to have made an error yourself, don’t you? That’s how it works. And to make it worse, you accepted the proposed adjustment, thus making a second error. That’s what rage will do. And yet, you insinuate I’m a keyboard warrior! So yeah, I’ll call you out. Lol at you…

And as for feeling brave, I always do. Why shouldn’t I? You want to willy-wave, but you picked the wrong guy and just about every level - body, mind, money, success all very good this end thanks, but sure, I’ll concede I have a weakness...I don’t suffer fools, hence our little chat.

Be gentle with me, friend :)
fermcr  +   542d ago
Yep... at this moment the PS4 is the better deal. Microsoft really needs a cheaper version of the X1 without Kinect to compete. If they really wanted to compete, they could release a X1 without Kinect at 350$.
n4rc  +   542d ago
Since when is stuff a serious tech magazine? Lol
kneon  +   542d ago
Who said it was? But articles in magazines like this have more impact than articles in "serious tech magazines". The mainstream consumer is far more likely to read Stuff and other media of that kind than they are to read any real tech magazine.

And the people who read such magazines are more likely to be influenced by what they read than would us jaded hard core techies.
YNWA96  +   542d ago
I think mainstream will be picking up MAXIM or FHM over STUFF... Mainstream never get influenced by magazines either. Only technofiles will even read the article... mainstream see COD, buy machine... thats it... simple...
lawgone  +   542d ago
I'm convinced the zombie apocalypse already happened and they have eaten the majority of the planet's brains.
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lawgone  +   542d ago
SniperControl...you're married? And you made a complete fanboy comment like that? Seriously, no adult should be rooting for one console to dominate...not one that understands how competition benefits price and innovation anyway.
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SniperControl  +   542d ago
WTF has me been married got to do with anything?

I will guarantee 100% that there are brands out there that you will not touch due to bad past experiences or just brand loyalties. It is just like Samsung Vs iphone or BMW Vs Audi. It is the same with Sony Vs MS(or even Nintento to an extent).
I have always liked my Sony stuff from when I was a little lad. Sony has bought me years of happiness through thier products, be it with Walkmans, MD players and consoles. They have always and will always have a family vibe to them. In all the years of buying Sony, only one thing has gone faulty on me. I still have My PS1, PS2 and PS3, all working fine apart from the PS3 fans being loud.
On the other hand, I just see MS as a power hungry, greedy, monopolizing conglomerate just out to screw everyone over. There new windows OS is just awful and buggy as hell, but I have no choice but to use it as other OS are just as bad. I have had 3 X360's, 2 RROD on me, the second one after 4 months, MS had the gaul to replace it with a refurbished one, I complained about it, they said tough shit buddy. The 3rd one I won in a raffle and sold it after a week.
So you'll excuse me if I am a Sony fanboy, it is my goddamn right to be one.
I have no problem with the X1, it is a powerful console with amazing features, my problem lies with MS themselves.
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chrismichaels04  +   542d ago
This isn't media spin or a conspiracy like some biased people claim. Every major gaming and tech magazine and website is praising the PS4 because the system is impressive and deserves all the positive praise it has been receiving. This isn't a knock against MS or the Xbox One. A lot of people are just simply more impressed with the PS4. It is what it is. Either way, congrats to Sony for continuing the positive momentum leading up to a successful launch.
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Psn800  +   541d ago
If Ps4 is running an Os as well wouldn't that take up a lot of memory about a gb .
SniperControl  +   541d ago
Huh?
Who you replying to?
PirateThom  +   542d ago
PS4 has the PR, specs, first party studios and price behind it. Any magazine or site that argues otherwise are deluded.
B-radical  +   542d ago
Am i deluded for thinking xbone has a better launch line thus far
ApolloTheBoss  +   542d ago | Well said
Yes because the majority of those "exclusives" will be multiplatform.
Jdoki  +   542d ago
You're not deluded, it's your opinion, which is fair enough.

At the moment the XBO looks like it has quantity, but the PS4 has quality. I believe MS said they had 18 exclusives for year 1 and Sony said they had 20 - so there's a lot of missing information right now from both sides.

Sony have Gamescom and TGS to flesh out their launch line up - and I don't think MS are attending either of those events.

variety is always a good thing, so I'm not knocking MS for showing a lot of interesting stuff - but I know (from experience of PS1, 2 and 3) that Sony will likely deliver - they've not yet shown anything from most of their 1st party studios.
Sitdown  +   542d ago
So you can't have a great launch line up because most of your exclusives might become multi platform? Geeeez, the logic on here continues to set new lows on a daily basis.
warewolfSS  +   542d ago
No. I don't think so dude. They realease how many games at e3, and. Announced future exclusives. All Sony did was Announce that they can share games, lower price and some multiplatss
SoapShoes  +   542d ago
I'd say so because most of what they showed aren't launch titles but coming in the first year....
S2Killinit  +   542d ago
@B-radical
Your not deluded but don't forget, MS always comes out the gate strong (remember 360? they had Gears, a 'must have' game that made me go buy their system) But MS's game plan is to purchase exclusivity (timed or not) and they can only afford that at the beginning of each console generation when the install bases are relatively small. (otherwise developers will ask for more money to keep games away from Playstation). For MS this works just fine becaue around the middle of each generation MS stops catering to core gamers anyway and focuses on casuals/application/kinect. That is why they don't invest in development studios. I find it sad that gamers who buy consoles for games fall for this system and still support them. But also, I think the reason you think MS's line up was 'better' was because Sony had already announced some of its heavy hitters like Killzone, and Infamous before E3 so the impact they had was reduced at the conference. Its important to note that before E3 MS was hard pressed to really wow everyone with games since they somehow 'forgot' to show games at the reveal of a gaming console, which brings the question 'why'? why would they focus on casuals when releasing a gaming console? (refer to above) Because of the negative reaction to the reveal MS was under pressure so they just dumped everything they had at E3, whereas Sony was in no such trouble. They were going after MS's conference and they KNEW that all they needed to win was to give gamers the good news about DRM and Price to win it. They only showed the amount of games they needed and nothing more. They left the rest for the remaining games conferences before release: TGS, and Gamescom. So expect a whole lot from Sony and not much from Microsoft at those conferences. Sony held out so they could wow everyone closer to release.
PS: I just read Jdoki's comment where he says Microsoft isn't even attending TGS and Gamescom which pretty much proves it. But we shall see. Happy gaming.
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keabrown79  +   542d ago
@Apollo not trolling as I'm getting a PS4 first, but really curious.. which ones? And before you start I don't consider PC to be a part of multiplatform as I consider them to be console exclusives.

Ryse - exclusive,
Titanfall - exclusive atm "I hope that changes" Project Spark - Exclusive
Dead Rising 3 - Exclusive
Forza 5 - Exclusive
Sunset Overdrive - Exclusive
Quantum Break - Exclusive
Killer Instinct - Exclusive
Crimson Dragon - Exclusive

vs Sonys

Infamous Second Son
Killzone
Drive Club
Knack
"Then a bunch of Indie games, while good no doubt, don't move systems"

As I said I feel that Sony has the better system but Microsoft showed way more exclusive games.
Bruce_Wayne  +   542d ago
@ keabrown79

You forgot to mention that PS4 also has:
Outlast
The Witness
Deep Down
The Order: 1886
Planetside 2
Blacklight Retribution

Btw, you said you don't count PC as multiplatform so these games I listed do count as exclusives based on your assumption.
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XisThatKid  +   540d ago
NO your not B-radical you just have a different opinion mate.
Walker  +   542d ago
The Return of the King (Sony and PlayStation) . \m/
tw0qwk   542d ago | Bad language | show
XisThatKid  +   540d ago
someone tried hard...
THC CELL  +   542d ago
Ouch
Wizziokid  +   542d ago
Well you can't hide the truth it's the more powerful machine with better value for money unless you really really really like Kinect.

Not being biased I've said I'll happily get an Xbox One if they got rid of the mandatory Kinect but I just can't see it happening which is a shame.
HOLLYWOODLAND   542d ago | Spam
Tyre  +   542d ago
@Wizziokid It is dude.
Insomnia_84  +   542d ago
Nothing can stop it now! After Gamescom and TGS it will only get bettet!
HOLLYWOODLAND   542d ago | Spam
wishingW3L  +   542d ago
this article had 2 duplicate reports and people still approved it... When mods see this many will get a warning or be suspended for a day. =/

http://n4g.com/news/pen/130...
No_Limit  +   542d ago
"When mods see this"

What mod?
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redDevil87  +   542d ago
Cgood am cry.
warewolfSS  +   542d ago
I had my last account last month banned for absolutely no reason and they won't answer why
lawgone  +   542d ago
Why are people disagreeing with the fact that you pointed out this is a duplicate story that still got approved? Why, because this site is dominated by Sony fanboys who couldn't be objective and professional if a million dollars were on the line. Why they don't just change the name of this site to "PS4awesomenation!" or something else stupid like that I just don't know.
Tyre  +   542d ago
@lawgone Trying the censoring again via fake disapproving positive articles about PS4?
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from the beach  +   542d ago
Xbox One launch lineup says otherwise.
redDevil87  +   542d ago | Well said
PS4's better specs, PR, price, momentum, indie movement and first party studios say otherwise.
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from the beach  +   542d ago
Xbox One's 300,000 server cloud, Smart TV functions, bundled Kinect, lack of indie movement and better first party studios say otherwise ;)

But hey, one man's opinion v another's!
Good_news_every1   542d ago | Spam
Skips  +   542d ago
That "Power of the Cloud" BS has already been denounced by Eurogamer.

http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...

-_-

Sony's first party >>>> Microsoft's first party

-_____-

"Smart TV functions, bundled Kinect,"

LOL!
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Bruce_Wayne  +   542d ago
@from the beach

"Xbox One's 300,000 server cloud, Smart TV functions, bundled Kinect, lack of indie movement and better first party studios say otherwise ;)"

-Not all of those 300,000 servers will be dedicated.
-Smart TV functions are not even necessary.
-Bundled Kinect ---> LOL!
-I don't see how the lack of indie movement for MS is positive.
-Sony already proved that their first party studios are better. The Last of Us. Enough Said.
from the beach  +   542d ago
You can lol and be obnoxious if you want but those are all legitimate reasons for people to buy an Xbox One over a PS4.

-Smart TV functions may not be necessary for you, but anyone in the market for a Smart TV might pick the option that also includes next gen games.

-Those 300,000 servers won't make a difference? If you say so, there's $700m down the drain! Did nothing!

-Kinect is owned by almost 1/4 of Xbox 360 players, and the new one looks awesome. It's a huge asset and will be an ever huger one as time goes on.

-Indie games, I was joking they don't matter because I despise them. Xbox One will have them though, and I don't even think the PS4 announced ones are exclusive?

-Best first party is a matter of opinion. Metacritic awards Halo and Forza better than Killzone and GT, so that's not an argument. Nor is any other argument you may be about to respond to me here with, thinking it's an argument.

PS4 has some big plusses over the Xbox One but it's not as one-sided as a few here believe - and as I say in my first comment, the launch lineup speaks for itself. It's strong. People WILL want to play those games :)
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moparful99  +   542d ago
Pound for pound the Ps4 launch lineup is just as good.. Don't be that guy...
from the beach  +   542d ago
It is good, to be fair. Both are solid from day one.
warewolfSS  +   542d ago
What's Sonys lineup? Please elaborate
moparful99  +   542d ago
@Warewolf
Killzone: Shadow Fall
Drive Club
Knack
Rain
Infamous: Second Son
the Order: 1886
Deep Down
Not to mention the 10 Indie titles shown on stage. Microsoft didn't even whisper about their Indie plans. Plus Sony confirmed that they have 30 more titles to show off before launch most of which will probably be unveiled at GDC... Sony didn't lay all of their cards on the table at E3 which was a brilliant move.. I'm kind of wondering if we'll see anything new from Microsoft at GDC. If not then that E3 showing doesn't look so impressive anymore..
from the beach  +   542d ago
You realise Infamous, Deep Down and The Order are not launch titles? Don't be that guy who just outright lies to try and put another guy down!
moparful99  +   541d ago
@fromthebeach Every title listed was confirmed by Sony to be "launch window" meaning launch or the first 6 months on market.. Most of what Microsoft showed was multiplats and or not having a launch date until at least some indefinite time in 2014.. SO don't be that guy and try to twist my statements to use against me.. I'm fully aware that infamous, the order, and deep down aren't launch day titles.. Notice how nowhere in my statement did I ever say "LAUNCH DAY"..
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KwietStorm  +   542d ago
Better first party studios? Lack of Indie movement? Your avatar says it all.
fsfsxii  +   542d ago
Go back to the beach
Hicken  +   541d ago
Oh, man. That was bad.

Maybe you should start over? Cuz redDevil87 kinda destroyed your "argument." And, really, there's no arguing that Sony's first party devs are better than Microsoft's.

I don't know what you were trying to do, but you failed at it.
fOrlOnhOpe57  +   542d ago
This coming after Edge's stance on the PS4 - it seems like Sony's direction for gaming has universal support.
Tyre  +   542d ago
It has, but the diehards ignore the facts on almost everthing these couple of weeks....it's pathetic aqually
Tyre  +   542d ago
I mistyped on my PS3 virtual keyboard, i meant to say. Pathetic actually
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Bennibop  +   542d ago
When your living room is filled with multi media devices such as Smart TV's, Smart Phones I think consumer want a device that does exactly what it says on the tin and plays video games. Mixed messages, policy changes and 180's are not going to cut it.
nick309  +   542d ago
Xbox1 has good exclusives too , so does ps4, i dont see why people are so upset about it.
Sitdown  +   542d ago
Because the PS4 can not be seen as in the same league as the Xbox one.....its 50% better, and what is best for the world! Its not possible for there to be anything good about a competing system.
nick309  +   542d ago
Pc is stronger than any console, you see anyone not buying consoles? Consoles are for exclusives, stop being such a fanboy.
GoldPunch-TR  +   542d ago
PS4 = Mc Donald's
Xbox One = Burger King
Wii U = KFC
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KillrateOmega  +   542d ago
Those McDonalds fries, bro. Unbeatable...for the first hour.
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GoldPunch-TR  +   542d ago
Absolutely :P
nick309  +   542d ago
All of the above taste like rotten burgers.
seanpitt23  +   542d ago
Ps4 = top exclusive restaurant
Xbone = McDonald's
WiiU = hotdog stand
RandomDude655  +   542d ago
Ps4 = Five Guys
Xbone = Hardey's
WiiU = Eating out of the trash
DragonKnight  +   542d ago
PS4 = Authentic Italian Pizza with extra cheese.
Xbox One = Frozen Pizza
Wii U = Those Frozen Pizza Bagel Bite things.
MikeMyers  +   542d ago
PS4 = Shark Fin Soup
Xbox 360 = Chicago Deep Dish Pizza
Wii U = Ichiban Noodles
KwietStorm  +   542d ago
God I would have hoped you used real food as a comparison. Saying PS4 is McDonald's is not a compliment.
ZoyosJD  +   542d ago
In America, that may seem true, but the Japanese McDonald burgers look like they are out of the promo shots. No joke.

"I want a #6 and #9 served on a PS4. Keep the change, babe."
cunnilumpkin  +   542d ago
PS4 = Mc Donald's
Xbox One = Burger King
Wii U = Sewer Pickles

PC=El Celler de Can Roca
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sorane  +   542d ago
I'll stick to my 5 star restaurant aka PC :) They have the battle for second place on the tv here.....
Thomper  +   542d ago
I think we can accept that from what we know, the PS4 is the more graphically capable of the two, as this articles suggests, but lets be honest of all the games we have seen so far, have we seen anything significantly better looking on PS4? I don't think we have.

If you look at some direct comparisons such as Driveclub and Forza 5, you might be forgiven for thinking they are on the wrong consoles, considering how much more power the ps4 is alleged to have.
SoapShoes  +   542d ago
Forza 5 only had one trailer that was cg, no real gameplay was shown...
Thomper  +   542d ago
Erm...yes it was....

And the trailers used the in-game engine, not CGI
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lawgone  +   542d ago
Key word is alleged.
FrigidDARKNESS  +   542d ago
Lmao at this article it says these things but dont explain any of the supposedly tech. From other Tech forums there is no more room for the ps4 to grow tech wise.
SniperControl  +   542d ago
Facepalm

Like these "other" tech forums have a PS4 or a X1 in there hands right?? If so source?

but but..."Da Cloud".
FrigidDARKNESS  +   542d ago
B..b..but but we have 50% more power on the ps4 ...lol

Listen dude these tech engineers are very skilled and well versed at what they do.
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SniperControl  +   542d ago
Hey Frigid,

The 50% extra GPU power is proven via techs themselves, cloud is still an unknown commodity.

Anyway you know my feelings about it, so i wont harp on about it. Lol
KwietStorm  +   542d ago
"From other Tech forums there is no more room for the ps4 to grow tech wise."

"Listen dude these tech engineers are very skilled and well versed at what they do."

And you're just as well versed, I presume?
FrigidDARKNESS  +   542d ago
@SniperControl how can that be proven when they haven't done side by side bench mark tests. All that 50% more powerful crap is a bunch of PR Mularkey.

I don't claim to be a well versed computer tech engineer but if you venture outside this forum you wull see things differently.
reko  +   541d ago
@frigid

and you know this from?

hahahahhaahhaha
gamer7804  +   542d ago
Getting both consoles but i don't get all the hate for the X1, atleast since they've reversed their policies. Complain about the price, but game wise X1 has the initial better lineup, i'm sure it will even out of course. Hardware wise they are extremely close, sure ps4 has a more gddr5 but with the esram on the X1 there probably won't be much end result difference, aside from the time and talent devs put into games.

Both are going to be even more competitve this time around.
greedybear88  +   542d ago
But... Teh Power of Da Cloud!! ... lolz
KrisButtar  +   542d ago
Wonder if the model actually had a PS4 controller in her hand during the shoot or if it was photoshopped in.

Edit: it looks like they go into a lot of detail about the consoles, controllers, steam box, hardware specs as you can see the pages and the titles on each page of that issue in the link below

Link: http://www.exacteditions.co...

pages 46 to 65
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SynestheticRoar  +   542d ago
These magazine's were in Microsoft's corner only a couple of week's ago. I have a feeling more gaming rags are going to cut and run, in the coming days.
Supermax  +   542d ago
How many times do you need to be kicked in the head before you understand the ps4 is the console to get first next gen.
No_Limit  +   542d ago
please kick my head again as I don't understand why I keep wanting to play Forza 5, Killer Instinct, Dead Rising 3, Ryse, Project Spark, and Titanfall first.
shivvy24  +   542d ago
Seriously does everyone forget about Sunset Overdrive
SoapShoes  +   542d ago
You'll have to wait quite a bit for some of those as they aren't launch titles.
chrissx  +   542d ago
I just have a feeling that the Ps4 will do a Ps2 and get world dominance.everything about this console just leads to a perfect score
PrimeGrime  +   542d ago
Why are Xbox fans seriously still going on about the cloud? It is extremely pathetic already.

PS4 has cloud tech too you know. Shuhei even responded to you Xbox fans asking if the PS4 could in fact offload in the same manner to increase overall power. His answer was yes, yes it can with Gaikai the same exact way. So will you guys shut up about the Xbox Ones cloud or cloud tech in general.

Both systems have it. Only difference is one company is banking on that solely because they know their system specs are weaker and they can't talk that up, so why not act like the cloud can save it.

Knowing the PS4 is better hardware wise and uses the same technology the Xbox One will be using. Is it really even a competition? I don't think it is.

Enjoy your Xbox One games and leave it at that because it just isn't as powerful as the dang PS4. Just face it, can't stand people who just refuse to accept reality and instead create their own.
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Nitropants  +   542d ago
Does the cloud work if you don't have an internet connection? Because only a few weeks ago there were a large number of PS4 fans who didn't have one during "24hr connection-gate".

Anyways I am a casual gamer it seems as I haven't played on either console and unlike 90% on the people on here couldn't tell you which console will end up being best (largley as I'm unable to tell the future).

Having owned every system since the NES I have always loved games. But the console I remember most, was my Dreamcast. The games were awesome, the graphics were amazing and it sank like a lead balloon....so don't count your chickens Fanboys 7 years is a long time!

Right I'm off to play Toy Commander...With my mates...sat in the same room ;-)
marcolinhoo  +   542d ago
oh i miss playing with friends in the same room!
playing pes 2vs2 drinking beer and yelling at each other was a lot of fun!
sAVAge_bEaST  +   541d ago
ps4, I have a time machine,..
also.

http://i.qkme.me/3674zp.jpg
Thomper  +   541d ago
Micro machine with the 2 extra ports built into the cartridge was a fav mith my friends...

And Gunstar Heroes, Parodius, Baku Baku....

Them were the days!!!
flipflopfacts  +   542d ago
Hmm...me like
RandomDude655  +   542d ago
I'd let her hold my "dual shock"
shivvy24  +   542d ago
Id tap dat ..... Dpad
sigfredod  +   542d ago
First EDGE now STUFF, the beating continues, way to go SONY, lol
gamer2013  +   542d ago
After reading some of the comments here about Microsofts Azure cloud service I decided to post this link in hopes of educating a few ignorant fanboys and yes, it will make a difference, a huge difference! I won't hold my breath though because, after all, this is N4G and the irrational Sony fanboys here don't care about the truth when it comes to anything Xbox related. Especially if the truth puts Xbox in a more positive light.

http://www.respawn.com/news...
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oscarcat59  +   542d ago
Don't bother holding your breath fanboys are thinking with the wrong head lol. But I wonder if the xbox one uses 100 watts and is well designed to be cooled and larger why is the ps4 small and est. at 150 watts. Plus the power brick is inside it. For some reason I do believe it will run hot and noisy and quite often be throttled back to keep from burning out. Do you think this is a valid concern?
gamer2013  +   542d ago
I read on some tech site that testers have already complained about overheating issues with the PS4. I seen this coming after it was presented at E3. It's just too small.
PSN_ZeroOnyx  +   542d ago
The X1 has 5 billion transistors on the APU, that means the APU is not only bigger BC it also houses the esRAM, but all them transistors mean it will run EXTREMELY hot.
awesomeperson  +   541d ago
Sony is a great hardware company. I have no doubt that they considered where the heat would go when they made a box like that.

I just believe they were smart when engineering the box, but only time will tell at launch really.

And TwistedReality, do you mind telling me which tech site? I don't not believe you, I just wouldn't mind reading about that myself.
XabiDaChosenOne  +   542d ago
So I read the link, great read btw and it pretty much confirms what most have been saying about the "cloud". It's just dedicated servers with the "potential" to "do more". Did you even read the link?
"testers have already complained about overheating issues with the PS4."
Link?
FlunkinMonkey  +   542d ago
You guys and your new accounts are embarrassing, i often think it's just the same person having a convo with themselves..

Pathetic!!
Tyre  +   542d ago
@TwistedReality I got news for you...Eurogamer just debunked the cloud processes myth on the 'future' XB1. In short they say it is BS....read on everybody => http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...
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sAVAge_bEaST  +   542d ago
The PS4 Hype Train, is starting to gain speed.
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fingazblank  +   542d ago
I'm just glad i built a badarse pc that blows the next gen consoles out of the water then drags them around the beach a bit and then buries them into the sand later on being dug up by a dog...

But in all my experience don't write off Microsoft, not one console has even shipped, they have a stronger line up of games for the next year, better controller, exclusives from 3rd parties, Titan fall is a Xbox one console exclusive, fifa ultimate team exclusive, Ryse exclusive, you might pfft at this but these are very big things, they will determine the early adopters. Xbox live will only get stronger they are experienced with this, Sony are just up starting a new service although i reckon sounds good on paper, and if it works will be a fantastic achievement, but it will be a few years to be up and running to the standard of xbox live and then only maybe.

I mean they are digging deep into there pockets, they just lost a huge sum of cash with all the R&D that spent the best part of 5 years putting into place the future for gaming, coughs" going down the pan, they have an open check book and they are wounded. They have ground to make up. Yeah we know the Sony boys will buy Sony stuff and loads of the 360 geezers will have jumped ship. But there are many that will buy the console still. The non knowing public, the kids that play ultimate team.

You guys are just picking the bones from the e3 aftermath, things have changed and they changed quickly for the better, to the credit of microsoft they acted maybe a bit late though but acted nonetheless. I dont think sony forced there hand to 180, the public opinion did, the shareholders did.

Many people know they have an endless stream of cash because people are follish enough to buy windows :P and office. They shape the pc world how they see fit, they could buy the majority stake from sony and make the money back in from selling windows in 1 week. Sony are the ones who really need to make this console a success, it will be a hard long fought battle and i hope sony loose, hahahahaha!
gamer2013  +   542d ago
Can I borrow that crystal ball please?
fingazblank  +   542d ago
You can only use it on a directX 11 gfx card though, but yeah it's cool..
sAVAge_bEaST  +   542d ago
Money can't buy love,.. silly.
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fingazblank  +   542d ago
If there was computer code for love then you bet microsoft would find it write it and sell that badboy.
PIayStation  +   542d ago
Tl;Dr. Microsoft has been losing to the competition for for a long time now. Call me when the almighty Microsoft can keep up with Apple or Google.
hellboy2020  +   542d ago
I have been a gamer for many years. Since the early 80, s people have been fighting oover what's the best gaming machine. Zx spectrum v comadore 64 , sega v Nintendo so on so on. At the end of the day we all love games and what ever console you pick there will be great games and some crap. Yes ps4 is looking awesome but xbox has some great game exclusive, s . So stop all the bitching and just enjo the fact that talented people are makes our games for the benefit of us the gamers.
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