We detail how Sony crushed Microsoft at E3 2013 and why PS4 is your next console in the new issue of Edge magazine.
Shots fired indeed. The wind is with Sony, and like I've always said, many Xbox 360 owners saw Microsoft's betrayal as justification to come back home to PlayStation. Microsoft seems to forget that many of the folks who bought 360s where disgruntled PS2 owners who couldn't afford PS3 at $599, or couldn't wait one year late for the console. They're coming home now.
ladies and gentleman, competition is over!
You know what's funny? Some people actually think all Games at Microsoft conference are exclusives, instead of just 5 or 6 of them. Some of them are not even launch titles too. Ps4 has a stronger launch line up exclusives than Xbox cloud. Edge is a respected gaming magazine for a reason. They don't sugar coat anything to cater to any one crowd. Glad that sided with my prefered console
Edge shows love for Sony ? Incredible ! Looks like the PS4 is a blessed console!
Extreme conditions require extreme measures
don't remember any big gaming publication giving a prediction this bold. PS4 is gaining historical momentum
PS4 is crushing the competition. It's Micro$oft's own fault. They brought this upon themselves with their greed and arrogance. You can't treat your customer base like they're criminals and expect to stay on top. Lesson learned.
Sony has ME next generation and I have been mainly an MS gamer the past decade plus. So I agree with Edge. I don't see how anyone can argue "logically" against this assessment. MS has already made way too many mistakes and most importantly they lost trust. The biggest question now being asked is "when" will MS re-implement DRM. Dropping DRM alone is far from being enough for them to even be competitive. There are a lot of little things they are doing wrong as well. If you go to gaming racing sites / forums. Forza fans are up in arms that their current generation wheels wont work with Forza 5. Hardcore and even mainstream gamers don't want a camera hooked up mandatory for ANY reason. Being able to turn it on or off doesn't matter. It should have never been mandatory. The price is also a huge factor considering ALL indications is it has less power all around vs the PS4. Also taken into consideration Kinect most likely is the main reason the X1 will retail for $100 dollars more. Just way too many mistakes, poor message with horrible messaging (arrogant, snobbish, inconsistent, or flat out not answering straight questions with straight answers), unnecessary restrictions and requirements, more money ALL around (console and peripherals), etc. Sony is without question the front runner for the next generation. It doesn't matter what MS showed or didn't show at E3 as far as games goes. Sony has proven themselves over the years to continually churn out high level exclusive IP's (sequels and brand new) generation after generation. Meanwhile MS, other than their tried and true fab 4, all but bailed on the 360 consumers the past few years to push Kinect. Now they have made it mandatory. Didn't they get the memo? Motion controls are so last generation. Gamers want a gaming console, not a cable box that needs a traditional cable box hooked up to it to be a cable box. It just makes no sense the direction they are headed. Especially considering the X1 appears to be targeting North America the most where TV viewing is dropping year after year. SMDH
@allformats Wow, you just perfectly described me and my reasons for buying a 360.
wow brutal. you just nailed it all right there. bubble up, well said.
Hold on a minute, Edge were absolutely despised on here and now you guys are loving them up?? I'm sorry, but Edge have lost all credibility from here on out by blatantly picking one side. They are supposed to be objective and THAT is their front cover? That is shocking. Unless of course, I'm missing the point and Microsoft really have blundered it up to such a colossal extent. Well, I didn't think so but this just makes me question it all. Hmmmm....
^^Because the shoe is on the other foot now. For YEARS the members of this site claimed that Edge favored the 360, thus being unreliable. But now that their bias proves positive for the PS4, its "okay" now. Double standards ftw *sigh*
@ Septic and LOGIC Yeah, that's a fair assessment. Edge often gets brushed aside with "LOL Edge" and it seems silly to flip-flop just because they support Sony now. To be fair, Edge has ALWAYS been hard on most games, PS3 and 360 alike. I think people are simply excited for the cover because of stuff like this that happened last gen: http://www.gamesetwatch.com...
@dedicated That is a fair point and interesting link. However, even EGM didn't go as far as to say something as stark as "the ONLY option right now". You expect this kind of stuff from smaller websites, not larger, well known publications.
@Logic - "^^Because the shoe is on the other foot now. For YEARS the members of this site claimed that Edge favored the 360, thus being unreliable. But now that their bias proves positive for the PS4, its "okay" now. Double standards ftw *sigh*" That's true, but another way to look at it is... Wow a site that's seemed to hate on most things related to Playstation for years is in love with PS4, so PS4 is definitely going to dominate! It's still jumping to a conclusion, but at least you can see the thought process behind the leap.
I'd rather say that's because Edge is known to be harsh and was a little bit rough towards the Playstation (3) recently which makes this statement rather surprising. If Edge can make a u turn like this they better have a good reason for doing so...which puts quite some weight on that statement, IMO.
I was an AVID 360 fan and now, yep, you guessed it, I'm picking up a PS4 in... October?!
While Edge Magazine is right in the fact that the PS4 is indeed my next console, isn't it kind of a dick move on their part to do that to Microsoft?
I had a feeling about this back in 2011 that Microsoft was going to do something that would jepordize their next system. I saw it coming over a mile away.
lol edge were hated on n4g, now they are loved! who would have guessed that the cretins on here would change so quickly??? and as someone else pointed out, this is not the sort of thing an unbias publication should be doing. sorry edge, my x1 pre-order is not getting cancelled
I lost all respect for edge. Used to love them even when they gave my beloved Mass Effect a putrid score. However, they are supposed to stay objective and report news, not steer it!
I'm not coming home, never was a Sony fan and never owned a Playstation. I've supported Xbox since I got an original in 2002. That support is now dead. I'll stick with the 360 for a bit and maybe find a new home on Playstation or go back home to PC. The wild card for me is if Steambox comes to fruition.
hear hear Allformats! I am exactly one of those many disgruntled ps2 owners you described! I do have a PS3 though. Only managed to get one this year.
What Brutallyhonest said is spot on. And as expected, in come the Xbox fanboys that seem to be able to give it well, but not take it. LOL @ nukeitall - you lost all respect for EDGE, but you still somehow have respect for the company that tried to stranglehold the industry, take away your rights as a consumer, and much much more? The damage is done... hugely. Journalistic integrity is not necessary to understand that. In fact, if journalists and true gamers everywhere wouldn't have voiced themselves where it mattered, the damage would've impacted the industry irreparably and not blown back on MS themselves.
I came back to Playstation in 2008. As for everyone else just joining us... http://www.youtube.com/watc...
@Septic, LOGICWINS, other xbox fanboys None of the comments preceding yours are praise for Edge. All I see before your trolling comments is "Wow, that bold statement coming from EDGE?"
@ Brutallyhonest ~ I haven't always agreed or sided with some of the things you have said over the years, but damn man, seriously you deserve a standing ovation with that concise comment! The only addition I would add to that is this is what reasonable mature gamers (who usually get labeled "PS Fanboys") have been saying for YEARS about Microsoft and their "tactics". It's about THEM more-so than their customers (you only have to look at Windows for proof at that) and this most recent bs with the XB1 (let alone the problems with the 360) is nothing new...always has, always will. The proverbial "writing is on the wall" along with "fool me once" etc...
The PS4 will be my next console purchase but it wont be my only option. The XB1 will be purchased shortly after.
@US8F So true mate. I actually had a friend who thought Metal Gear Rising was a 360 exclusive when it was due out in amonths time last January. And the game was shown at Microsoft's E3 2009 Conference!!!!! I had to laugh and say no dumb ass, it IS actually exclusive to PS3 in Japan though lol. Goes to show all that money for pointless things may not be so pointless after all.
EDGE speaks the truth.
@SilentNegotiator ***"None of the comments preceding yours are praise for Edge. All I see before your trolling comments is "Wow, that bold statement coming from EDGE?""*** That's what they do. They make a whole bunch of claims with no real concrete base for it, only generalizations that treats everyone's comments and opinions as one living breathing hive. Hell LOGICWINS the other day went into a thread claiming that N4G was saying the author had the 'wrong' opinion. Asked him to point out who said that he couldn't. So now I ask the same to those crying about flip-flopping, care point out those that are "loving up" EDGE? Or maybe a better question to ask is, care to point those that are praising EDGE now that were bashing them before hmm? Can't do that? Then STFU! lol
They're coming home now? It's going to be rough for some of you guys when NPD's come out and it's MS winning the USA again.
Wow... EDGE with such a radical preference toward the ps4... I mean look at that cover, I'm amazed
@LOGIC and SEPTIC: Yes, you are right and so are all the PS fans who have been saying that EDGE have been biased all these years. THAT'S the very thing that makes this extraordinary. It's like your wicked Aunt leaving you her entire estate in her will.
And I thought that it was a PROVEN fact that edge atleast WAS biased against PS3 with that edge vs metacritic-article. Did you x-fans (the ones that shout double standards) forget about that? They actually WERE biased and now it seems they are not. They changed their behaviour from biased to non-biased and you people call it double standards to accept their views now after the change? Mind blown! Hell even if there was a person in here who previously shouted about edge's bias and now would absolutely love them it wouldn't still be effing double standards now would it? Edge CHANGED their tone from biased to unbiased. Is there a problem with this logic?
@SilentNegotiator & Outside_ofthe_Box I said other people will start to notice this about Logic and other posters awhile back.Using extreme generalizations to try to make a point( that point which 90% of the time has nothing to do with the topic at hand ) The hilarious part about it is that septic and logic said people are loving edge now when in reality NONE of the posts here are praising Edge, they are instead shocked and surprised.. Like I said before just stop, your trying to show hypocrisy among a certain group but your doing it wrong
I had 360 when it first came out and sold it to buy a ps3 and i also have had 5 ps2 (keep on breaking them form playing to much)
@Silentnegotiator and outsidethebox No, the difference between us is we have to spoon feed everything to you because you clearly are incapable of understanding anything unless it's spelt out to you. Edge are (sorry were) desprised on here. The moment there was a mere mention of it, we got "lol edge" comments and kids throwing their toys out of their prams because their beloved game got less than a 9. No one here is going to outright say, "oh we love edge" . Instead, you've got fanboys now getting excited without showing even a modicum of criticism against the publication they used to pour scorn about constantly. Do you guys get it now or should I spoon feed you some more? Who the hell are you guys to call us fanboys? Check my comment history. Yes, I've defended the X1 (among other platforms) when I deem it unnecessary because of the b.s bias that pervades this site. But hold on, I'm a fanboy? How the hell can a big magazine publisher resort to such a blatant hit seeking tactic? This isn't objectivity at all. THAT'S the point I'm making and you are incapable of understanding. Dedicatedtogamers made a good point and backed it up. Maybe you should learn from him instead of resorting to insults. I was one of the first people to mock the way the X1 looked, to deride it when it was first unveiled. Oh how you drones loved me then. But the moment I make a balanced point that's slightly in favour of the X1 we get mass disagreed and people like you laughably calling us fanboys?? We can't even say we like Forza or Titanfall without being massively disagreed with. Sorry....does someone have to expressly come out and write out "oh we disagree with you because we are fanboys and don't like the fact that you're praising a game that isn't coming out on our console"? The fact that I can stand up against the nonsense that the mob on here spew out should be praised lol. What have you done to show that you aren't spineless protoplasmic invertebrate jellies? Try and have some integrity. Don't tell me to stfu because I don't tolerate your keyboard warrior antics. Unlike you, I have the courage to say whatever I post on here to someone's face. If I were you, I'd first try to think within the box before straining to think outside it.
@Septic So do you mind proving that the people that replied to this article are the same ones that supposedly hated on edge in another article. I will wait. And just in case you do (I doubt you will ), how about you address THAT person and not EVERYONE that replied. Do you know what generalize means?You can explain what your saying 100 times and each time it will be an example of generalizing. Generalizing to make an argument is so amateur, theres a show on ESPN where analyst debate and they lose a point every time they use a generalization to make a point.Generalizations holds NO merit in a argument, debate or point.
If there is a competition is from Microsoft and SONY trying to win a market to get more money and until now what I see is a Microsoft with a 360 sells that are 4 times the sells of the original Xbox and with a new Xbox one which is not even out yet...... so we just can sit down a see what will happen.........to say that somebody will win is premature. I keep saying have a lot of interest in buy both consoles, i like the two worlds, when I take the side of Microsoft is because I see a lot of unfair opinions against Microsoft. They don't have to be loyal to me, they just have to show their proposal and is in me to analyze and decide if is convenient to buy it or not......that's it.
Well Said and +bubz. Actually one of the best posts & retorts I've seen on N4G.com.
It's well known that Edge gets hate on N4G.com and other places. The reason is simply because of the lower reviews they have give certain PS3 titles. They are the Eurogamer for the PS3.
Yeah, it's common knowledge that the flip flopping is going to occur at this site. But in this case it's all Edge. They are trying to sell hits & magazines and just like many websites they know what's going to sell them in this gurrent gaming climate.
On your post, you are dead-on as don't HAVE to single out ANY member on N4G to make a valid point as you did, as it is a FACT that you have members on here that are pushing 50+ accounts just to spam Xbox fan inboxes.
On topic, MS hurt themselves with the dumb policies, as it allowed for what has happened.
But, those policie are gone and 5-6 months from now MS quick action to reverse them is going to pay off in a big way. They just won't come out any of this unscathed as the Edge coverage proves.
It's going to be a fun eollercoaster ride up until launch.
@Dmarc “So do you mind proving that the people that replied to this article are the same ones that supposedly hated on edge in another article.” I don’t mind. Let me spoon feed this to you, just as you requested. Silentnegotiator was one of the first to jump for joy on this article. Everyone with an ounce of intelligence knows that he an overbearing allegiance to Sony so this may not come as a surprise. But he made the mistake of one 1) trying to label me (indirectly) as a fanboy and 2) not understanding the quite simple fact that adulation on here for Edge’s front cover has obviously manifested itself in responses like his and others such as abzdine (lol) who got marked for “well said” for saying “ladies and gentleman, competition is over!” with a startling vote of 155-20. How much do you want to bet that a comment like that but in favour of the X1 would have been instantly marked as trolling by this so-called community? But hold on, SilentNegotiator wasn’t so silent or jubilant when the Edge review scores came out for Infamous 2: “"This article does an excellent job at summing it up Edge when it comes to reviewing games by platform" http://n4g.com/news/783035/... What was he trying to say here? And look at BathyJ below me, who’s comment would have been surely marked as immature or trolling if it was favourable for the X1. “"Edge still sucks" http://n4g.com/news/783035/... Oh and this: http://n4g.com/news/783035/... “Is anyone even surprised? ITS EDGE! The Simon Cowell of the games media, that for some reason thinks being overly harsh (on one system) is the same as integrity. Oh well, they gave it a 6. One point for every hour I put into the game last night. I really dont care what they think, they have worse taste than my armpit. Oh, and for those of you who actually think Edge is fair (you poor fools) have a nice read.. http://edgevsmeta.blogspot.... Right…..but now he’s mysteriously silent about Edge who, in his own words, said that anyone who believed Edge, which he called “The Simon Cowell of the games media” was a ‘poor fool’ . But wait a minute, you’re the one who put me up to this challenge. Why are you so obtuse all of a sudden. Your critical analysis of Edge was quite something in the GT5 review: http://n4g.com/news/656188/... “"lol when ever a review starts off with " after waiting 5 yearss blah blah blah" crap you already know its getting a low score “ if it was a 1 year it would have have been better ? .. it would have been on ps2 actually" I’m not saying you can’t be critical but hold on, you’re having a go at me for pointing out the hypocritical response to the most blatant hit-seeking front cover of a BIG NAME magazine publisher like Edge who are supposed to be objective. Time for some mental gymnastics on your part. Look at the ratio of disagrees to agrees on the Edge review articles for Infamous 2, Killzone 2, GT5. Just go have a look. And now look at the comments here. Who are these mysterious people agreeing and bubbling up comments like “shots fired!” and this “Edge is a respected gaming magazine for a reason. They don't sugar coat anything to cater to any one crowd. Glad that sided with my preferred console”. Lmao…you absolute hypocrites.
You still don't get it, Septic. No one praised EDGE before your comment. I did not praise Edge before your comment. No one before your comment, about people supposedly praising Edge, was praising EDGE. THEY ARE SURPRISED that Edge said this, which doesn't suggest anything positive about EDGE because they're saying that they're very overtly in favor of Xbox to the point of a fault. You're complaining about non-existent comments because you're trying to invent a non-existent hypocrisy because you're trying to make "teh eeeeevil soni fanboiz" look bad. "Silentnegotiator was one of the first to jump for joy on this article" Because I said that I went back to Playstation and welcomed anyone else returning......oh yeah, what praise for EDGE! /s If EDGE wants to be another drop in the bucket of journalists suggesting that you buy a Ps4, who cares? They're STILL being pushy and biased, despite switching sides. My opinion of EDGE hasn't changed in the slightest.
1.Silent and I replied after you 2.Silent and my comments wasnt praising or even acknowledging Edge 3.Nobody Prasied Edge or said or showed loved for edge 4.My comment showed NO hate towards edge 5.Just because nobody brought up how biased Edge is towards PS3 doesnt mean that everyone is loving edge and praising them now. 6.You obviously dont know what a generalization means judging by the rest of the dribble you just wrote.agree to disagree ratio? really? Just stop.Generalizations will NEVER win an argument
"You're complaining about non-existent comments because you're trying to invent a non-existent hypocrisy" Non-existent hypocrisy? LMAO! Ah you kids do make me laugh. I understand everything perfectly. I understand how people not coming out and expressly praising edge but rejoicing over Edge's stance IS hypocrisy. I spoon fed the point to you but you keep regurgitating the same nonsense. One more time, seeing as you you're struggling with basic comprehension...I'll break it down just for you. One example: See US8F's comment above? Let me paste it for you: "Edge is a respected gaming magazine for a reason. They don't sugar coat anything to cater to any one crowd. Glad that sided with my prefered console" See how it has been marked as "Well said" with a vote of 142 votes for and 21 against. Who are these people agreeing with him? Why were these invisible people disagreeing with the same kind of sentiments when it came to Edge's reviews on games like Infamous and GT5? Still don't get it? Well, I can hardly be blamed for your intellectual shortcomings.
@septic "Why were these invisible people disagreeing with the same kind of sentiments when it came to Edge's reviews on games like Infamous and GT5? " I can see what you mean, but if you are indeed going solely on the agree to disagree ratio you are walking on a veeeery thin ice. Hell if someone says a fact about ANYTHING it gets disagrees. If someone says that we need oxygen to live he still gets disagrees. US8F also said "You know what's funny? Some people actually think all Games at Microsoft conference are exclusives, instead of just 5 or 6 of them. Some of them are not even launch titles too. Ps4 has a stronger launch line up exclusives than Xbox cloud. " He said that in that very same comment so don't you think people agreeing might be agreeing on that quote? It's so dumb with these agrees and disagrees that all you can do is push it once for one or the other. It's all black and white so if the comment is more on the agreeable side that's what you push no matter if there are some things you don't agree with in the same comment. The comment in general is MORE on the agree-side. Get it? If someone said "I like cats, dogs and birds" and you yourself hated birds but absolutely loved cats and dogs you would have to push agree. And then someone who has seen you hating on birds on another topic would come in and call you on hypocrisy for agreeing on that comment. It's silly and you know it and calling people to have "intellectual shortcomings" because of something like that is just BS. You just don't have that much to go off on.
@Septic Don't get mad at me calling me names and such just because I pointed out the flaw in your attempt at crying hypocrisy. At the time you commented there is no way in hell you could say the majority of the comments at the time was praising Edge. So you either interpreted them as such or jumped the gun assuming that there would be future comments praising Edge. Either way you had no real concrete basis for your hypocrisy cry. You can insult me all you like saying I don't have a backbone, lack integrity, have low intelligence, it still won't change the fact that you are using your basis for calling others hypocrites on the mere assumption that everyone's opinions are one living breathing hive. Edit: lol So now your trying to use agrees and bubble ups to prove your point. Those aren't much to go on at all. One, you don't know the reason why people are agreeing or disagreeing with someone. People may hit agree because they agree with only a single sentence of the entire post for all we know. Same goes for disagree. Two, bubbles I've seen people get bubbled up for the most ridiculous things and others either de-bubbled or not receiving bubbles at all for comment that is truly bubble worthy. Hell, I remember nukeitall got bubbled up for turning positive Sony news into negative news. I am allowed to say this site isn't majority PS fans now lol? So in short, you're just yet again assuming the reasons why one would agree/disagree and bubble/de-bubble. You can call me all the names you like, but it doesn't negate all the rational, logical, and valid points I brought up at all.
two dead; Adam Orth and Don Mattrick
don't forget the half dozen Xbox fanboys that are MIA presumed KIA around here in the last month or so
This just in; Rampaging and looting everywhere in the Xbox camp. On the scene report states that Adam Orth and Don Mattrick died from severe botch gun wounds through the oral cavity. 3rd party exclusives are now appear to be hiding after Edge announcement. This is now becoming a war scene we can only guess what will happen next. Stay tuned on N4G to bring you the latest update on the details. flipflopfacts reporting out.
I'm interested to see/hear Microsofts response to this... Probably would be something like "Have you seen Titianfall?"
"Have you seen titanfall?!?! ENOUGH SAID! NEXT QUESTION!" -Major Nelson Best come back evar!!!
And I'd respond, "Yeah, I can't wait to play it on my PC!"
His and our definition of "exclusive" are a bit different.
@Bathyj Those presumed lost Xbox fanboys are present, but speaking in a different tongue...favoring the PS4.
@Witwolfy If its Major Nelson he'd say "We have the Kinect"
they can't lie any more no more PR the Specs are out ps4 as friendly as xbox or even more indie dev's love ps4 1st/2nd party studios from sony are the top dogs ps4 is a clear choice here
Nah, it will be "Have you seen Kinnect". Damn, fsfsxii beat me to it. Lol
"Teh cloudz" coming to a PR rep near you.
Major Nelson- "it can read your blood pressure" da fuq? lol
Not the wiiU? :( lol
Read the comments on the article edge's fan base are losing their shit
lot of butthurt xboners in there......lol
@septic Yep..Edge just lost all credibility and I have been a subscriber for around 20 years. This isn't about fan-boyish, it's about Edge no longer being objective. And I disagree with their view Disagree fan-bots. I couldn't care less ;0) This site is full of f**king nongs anyway
Wah! Wah! someone call the Wahbulance Wii U Wii U Wii U Wii U Get used to hearing it Thomper, you're going to hear it all this generation. "Not wasting my time on fan-bots" This means you mad and you have nothing else to say. I bid you good day.
@tongkatali At least be original - yawn!! Not wasting my time on fan-bots
I agree with you thomper I do see why people are not liking the Xbox one but for me it is the better console for what I want in my front room. I also thought the games I saw at e3 fit my needs better than what Sony were offering. Also people seem to be forgetting the one big market out there the none core market. Microsoft's biggest issue at the start of last gen with the 360 as the lack of none core games and Kinect made the console a core and none core console. Now sony managed this to by move but move was not taken up by this market and if you price up a ps4 with a camera bar and 2 move and nav controllers it becomes more than the Xbox one plus it is only 2 player. I am by no means saying the ps4 is a bad console as its not but gaming is about choice and I own a Wiiu at the moment and out of the one and ps4 I will be getting the Xbox one and I will end up picking up a ps4 some point later on in the gen like I did with the ps3.