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Submitted by Prcko 509d ago | rumor

The New Xbox Boss Is... Steve Ballmer?

Former Xbox boss and incoming CEO of Zynga Don Mattrick will not be replaced immediately at Microsoft, according to a memo issued to Microsoft employees from company CEO Steve Ballmer. (Microsoft, Steve Ballmer, Xbox 360, Xbox One)

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allformats  +   509d ago | Well said
Something's terribly wrong at Microsoft's Entertainment (Xbox) division. Terribly.

"most importantly, we expanded Xbox to go beyond great gaming to deliver all the entertainment people want — sports, music, movies, live television and much more."

Wow, so Ballmer is now boss and the most important thing about Xbox One to him is sports, music, movies and live television.

Wow. Speechless.
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Prcko  +   509d ago
critical moments for xbox,and this happens...
crazy
dedicatedtogamers  +   509d ago
In all fairness, Ballmer is the TEMPORARY boss.

But yeah, read the following quote from Ballmer:

"I’m particularly excited about how Xbox pushes forward our devices and services transformation by bringing together the best of Microsoft. The consoles are incredible all-in-one devices with built-in services that consumers love, including Bing, Xbox Live, Internet Explorer, SkyDrive and Skype. And, just as important, Xbox Games, Xbox Video, Xbox Music and SmartGlass light up Windows PCs, tablets and phones."

Does it trouble anyone else that he mentiones game-related aspects of Xbox (Xbox Live and Xbox Games) only twice in that entire paragraph?
MikeMyers  +   509d ago
"Does it trouble anyone else that he mentiones game-related aspects of Xbox (Xbox Live and Xbox Games) only twice in that entire paragraph?"

Sure if that is your focus and want to keep the theatrics going on how bad the Xbox brand is. Not sure why that would concern anyone who already said repeatedly they aren't going to support the Xbox One anyways. For the rest of us it means the Xbox One will do more than just games but games will still be it's primary selling feature. Microsoft has more games in development right now than at any time in the history of the Xbox. So no, it doesn't worry me. Sorry to disappoint you.
TheHierarchy  +   509d ago
It is nice to hear the position is now open, now that mattrick is moving out. but all Managers take the same classes.

Even if a chick was to take Mattrick's place once any hardware goes gold all they can do is defend it. That's marketing and that's what they're being payed to do.
SilentNegotiator  +   509d ago
So ultimately, Xbox has the same type of leadership ideology.

Great.
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jmc8888  +   509d ago
Ballmer isn't the temporary boss.

He's the PERMANENT boss who is currently TEMPORARILY taking on the role of someone who would be beneath him.

It's like manager of a fast food chain who helps out the line when it's busy or short staffed.

Except he's more concerned with having frosty paint of Ronald McDonald on the windows done correctly then anything else....like the food.

In the end the guy who is hired, will still report to him.

So for all the people saying...no the new guy after ballmer will have a different focus...

Sure...and risk his new job by going against Ballmer?

The rot is at the top. Gates and Ballmer are morons.
TekoIie  +   509d ago
@Dedicatedtogamers

"Does it trouble anyone else that he mentiones game-related aspects of Xbox (Xbox Live and Xbox Games) only twice in that entire paragraph?"

No... Which is why you framed it as a question. Your trying to create fake controversy.
TheHierarchy  +   509d ago
@ jmc8888

"The rot is at the top. Gates and Ballmer are morons."

they just think differently. Ultimately when any hardware ships all managers are supposed to defend and market. so even if all of the managers from all of the consoles were to trade places their goals would not be any different.

Edit- In microsoft's case this doesn't mean that change still can't be made. it just takes the higher up in the chain of command to push things forward.
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MarkusMcNugen  +   509d ago
@jmc8888

Bill Gates is not at the top... hes a non-executive chair. He doesnt oversee any day to day activities. In fact, a non-executive chairs duties are typically chairing the meetings of the board, organizing and coordinating the board's activities, such as by setting its annual agenda, and reviewing and evaluating the performance of the CEO and the other board members.

I would hardly say he is responsible for much of what happens in the Xbox division.
Ritsujun  +   508d ago
The perfect villianface.
fr0sty  +   508d ago
Here we go... Next press conference:

http://www.youtube.com/watc...
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Ju  +   508d ago | Well said
That was MS strategy when they started the whole XBox thing. Using games as a Trojan horse to get the "endpoint" into living rooms so they can spam homes with their services. Is anybody really surprised?
NukaCola  +   508d ago
MS's choice of turning the Xbox brand into the swiss army knife of entertainment is fine and well excepted.'

The issue is they entered the gaming market, not the apple TV market, so by using money for timed exclusives and fighting & belittling the competition, they have done nothing but try and destroy the gaming industry in their plot to TAKE OVER THE LIVING ROOM. At the end of the day and after all MS has done, it's clear they don't give a rat's ass above video games. It was just a way in so they can monopolize the television, push ads to the consumers and produce revenue for their stock holders.

If MS came in last year and not last gen, they would not even of had games on their list of capabilities. They would of gone full force against apple and google for what they really want. The television. People defend Xbox to the death but look at the bigger picture. MS is a cancer.
mewhy32  +   508d ago
Wow. Micro$oft is reeping what it sowed. They made their bed now let them lie in it.
dmeador  +   508d ago
I'm sure glad all the people who are claiming doomsday only use their cell phone to make calls, and their computers to calculate artillery strikes.

But you guys are right, there is no way the X1 will have more than 2 games a year.... oh wait, they killed the PS4 in their exclusive games presentation at E3.
finbars75  +   508d ago
You know what drives me crazy about the whole Don mattricks PR nightmare is the fact that if he didnt say anything about the xboxone information then guess what all you xbox fanboys would be in for a rude awakening come launch time.Think about it he really just did you guys a favor even if it was bad on his part.I gurantee that the xboxone would still have drm in it,you would have to have internet connection to play sp games ect.You honestly thing they would have dropped all those things from the xboxone if nothing was said.be thankful this happened because im sure guys like Steve Ballmer wouldnt had said anything and this discussion wouldnt be taken place and there would be an outrage down the road which would be a little to late for changes that close to launch.MS are showing gamers there true colors now and im sure something will take place before release that will be frowned upon by the time xboxone is available.
Major_Glitch  +   508d ago
@dmeador Lol. You mean the presentation where they showed off all their games on high-end pcs? Or was it the part where they showed they had fewer true exclusives than the PS4?
dark-hollow  +   509d ago
GOD FORBID THEM to make the Xbox more than pure gaming device. Especially when we hear the same terms of "expanding beyond gaming" from Sony as well.
TongkatAli  +   509d ago
All you need is dvd or bluray to make your game console a "entertainment device".
Dragonshardz  +   509d ago
Indeed. People hate on Balmer for being the asshole he is (you know, the corporate kind of asshole) but MS is doing great because of his corporate way of running things (MS is actually gaining profit in all divisions except Xbox).

So, this might be a different kind of thing but who knows... things haven't been exactly great thus far so...
Nodoze  +   509d ago
Yeah cause we all know that Sony has openly stated that there goal is to 'OWN the living room'. We all know Sony has been working to create a trojan horse to get into our living rooms to control us. They created a glorified TV guide and HDMI pass through on the PS4 to allow for TV viewing with voice commands. They also created a camera system that can detect emotion, heart rate, and whether or not you are paying attention to the commercials.

Oh wait that was all Microsoft. Sony has been focused on delivering great gaming experiences, and in addition allowing some media functionality.

Stop defending Microsoft.
dark-hollow  +   509d ago
@NoDoze
"Trojan horse" "control us"

Microsoft are literary the third Reich!
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kenshiro100  +   509d ago
When Sony was doing this, 360 fans were laughing at the PS3. Now Microsoft is doing it, it's completely okay. I remembered the whole 'PS3 has no games' crap that was spewed around on other sites and probably this site too. Now Microsoft does the same thing, it's A-Okay!
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dedicatedtogamers  +   509d ago
Like shadowgeist said, it's a bit disingenuous for Xbox fans to defend this shift in direction when they were mocking PS3 owners just a few years ago for the same thing.

"Blu Ray player? I bought my console for games, not movies"

"PS3 has no games!"

"At least I have the OPTION for HD-DVD and I'm not forced to buy an overpriced Blu Ray player"
jmc8888  +   509d ago
There's a thing called opportunity cost.

Think of it like a time management game. You can rest, or work out, or play, or whatever.

But you can't do it all.

You say 'god forbid them'...why are you covering for them? You think they are adding anything?

What does Xbox add to my cable that I don't have already?
What part of xbox is needed for streaming movies? (hint: netflix didn't start on consoles...nor is it needed...not even to view them on a TV since PC's hook up to TV's as well as monitors)

Why should Microsoft divide their focus on things they add no value on?

That's what they are doing. At the expense of the core product.

Even so much as to FORCE the NSA spying device known as Kinect 2 to be connected. (which means if your kinect goes bad, your console is needlessly useless)

At least with the 360 when the Kinect went out, people could simply unplug it. Not with this one, and no you don't believe a company that is required to lie to you about its spying to tell you truthfully about it not spying.

Sony and Microsoft did not treat the 'beyond gaming' aspect equally. Not even close. Like 56-0 football close, or for futbol 10-0 victory.

So again, with limited resources and time, why is Microsoft trying to add all this unnecessary, no benefit gimmicks to things that no one wants?
MarkusMcNugen  +   509d ago
@jmc8888
"What does Xbox add to my cable that I don't have already?"

Well, if you love NFL football and fantasy football it does add functionality cable boxes arent capable of at the moment. Same goes for being able to Skype while watching the boob tube. Maybe that means nothing to you, but to some people Im sure its a bonus.

"What part of xbox is needed for streaming movies? (hint: netflix didn't start on consoles...nor is it needed...not even to view them on a TV since PC's hook up to TV's as well as monitors)"

With this rational the PS4 shouldnt have a netflix app because PCs can stream netflix. Your are just fishing for things to hate about when you say stupid things like that. Guess what? PCs have been playing games longer than any console, so by the same rational theres no need for consoles to play games... just nonsensical.

"Why should Microsoft divide their focus on things they add no value on?

That's what they are doing. At the expense of the core product. "

You mean services for end users? Same thing I said above applies to these statements.

"Even so much as to FORCE the NSA spying device known as Kinect 2 to be connected. (which means if your kinect goes bad, your console is needlessly useless)"

Conspiracy theory much? NSA spying device? You cant be serious. Guess what, most smartphones, tablets, and laptops today have a camera on them. If your so worried about being spied on through a camera by the NSA I guess you shouldnt own any of these devices with cameras...

"At least with the 360 when the Kinect went out, people could simply unplug it. Not with this one, and no you don't believe a company that is required to lie to you about its spying to tell you truthfully about it not spying."

You really just want to believe companies spy on you all the time just because dont you...

"So again, with limited resources and time, why is Microsoft trying to add all this unnecessary, no benefit gimmicks to things that no one wants?"

Correction. Services that you dont want. You dont speak for everybody, and I am looking forward to a lot of these services. As much as I am looking forward to owning a PS4 as well.
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Knushwood Butt  +   508d ago
Jeez, who thought it was a good idea to give you your bubbles back?
joeorc  +   508d ago
@dark-hollow and many others are missing the big picture
Ever since the entire Microsoft xbox platform founders like Ed, Robbie, and the rest of them over there all left, i have a very sour outlook on Microsoft's exec's doing the right thing by their xbox platform consumer's.

The people running it now are looking at less and less for the consumer and the bottom line is to protect Microsoft's monopoly on Their OS market, d@mn every thing else, why else would you have Three Freaking Operating systems on a Game console? its about their OS gate toll position they do not want to loose over to Linux and Apple and Google etc.

This is no longer really about the games console market, its about keeping Microsoft's Windows reliancency from the Consumer the A#1 priority d@mn every thing else. A game console is about Game's, so why do you need Three OS's? you don't that is because its less about XBOX MORE ABOUT windows!

Remember, when Game's for windows came out and now its gone, PC gamers did not want to be tied to xboxlive, So Microsoft is trying it another way, making xbox live come to the PC gamer again, they want that control , but gamer's said loud and clear ...NO!

this would not have happened if the founders would have still been in charge of the xbox project!

Apple and Google has done the real Damage, the fact of the matter is the OS front is where Microsoft's real cash cow is, without being the Main OS for every day computing, that is going to be a problem when the main OS is every thing but a Microsoft OS for general mass adoption computing.

That is what the main problem is. without a toll position From an OS level Microsoft's Ability to dictate what OS is the main OS that Games are Made for, is the larger problem for microsoft when Valve is now putting investment into Linux, and Apple's OS That right there is a big problem for Microsoft, because during the Wintel Dominance Windows + intel CPU chips, Most games were being made only for windows powered PC's , now with Mac and linux Getting a fair shake its no longer just Microsoft's OS as a main OS for games development priority. add in iOS and Android, and Microsofts market share for The Main OS that games are made for is now shrinking very rapidly.

that's Microsofts main concern, its not about the Xbox as a platform anymore its about keeping Microsoft's OS as the main general consumer OS for all things computing in the consumer electronics. Its not about the game console anymore. For Microsoft. its always about the OS! and being the #1 OS as that leads to be the #1 OS games are made for. Thats Microsofts main goal!
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No Way  +   508d ago
@shadowgeist00
What? Microsoft has games. Where have you been?
Sony really didn't have games at the beginning of the console life..
That is why people said it; cause it was a negative for a great system.
pixelsword  +   509d ago
Who jumps ship on the wake of the console's launch?
dark-hollow  +   509d ago
All of the knee jerk reactions here are ridiculous. The next gen isn't there and yet people call the Xbox a sinking ship.

Where are those same people when Sony was bleeding millions on the ps3 launch? Its too early to make a judgement.
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MysticStrummer  +   509d ago
@dark-hollow - The difference is Sony planned to be taking a loss when they launched PS3.

MS wasn't planning on the reaction One got and I can (almost) guarantee you that Mattrick was allowed to leave instead of being fired.
dark-hollow  +   509d ago
@Mysticsummer

And the other thing the next gen hasn't even started! We don't know how well the xbone gonna fair, and let's not pretend that MS can't afford to loses on the first years if it didn't Go well.
MysticStrummer  +   509d ago
Of course next-gen hasn't started (though Nintendo fans would argue that), and I didn't say anything about MS not being able to afford taking a loss on One.

I'm just comparing this management change with what you said about Sony losing money on PS3. It's a very different situation. Mattrick was most likely shown the door because of the One's reception and how he handled it. MS did him a favor by letting him "quit".
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BABY-JEDI  +   509d ago
I think this guy is an ideal representative of the XBone, because that's where MS want to market the device. The XBone is not purely a gaming device. It's aimed at (ideally) bigger markets. I would rather have a gaming console. But MS would rather have money from TV, apps, sports ect revenue. But, that's what they want. Time for gamers to tell them what they want!
Ray186  +   509d ago
"Who jumps ship on the wake of the console's launch?"

Someone who is trying to distance themselves from the incoming train wreck.
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pixelsword  +   509d ago
@ dark:

Who said it was sinking? Not me. You reveal your own thoughts, not mine.
Tyre  +   508d ago
@MarkusMcNugen I'm speechless...Where have u been the last couple weeks? I've got news for ya kid...leaks/scandals heard about it? It is all out in the open....PRISM Program? Sounds familiar? Microsoft was the 1st one in, that garantees that they are handing over all their data to the NSA on regular basis. You're living in the past...get with the times. How do you still come up with the conspiracy argument? I'm amazed...i guess old habits are hard to get rid of. You can't teach an old dog news tricks, like the realisation that there IS a conspiracy in spying on citizens. Never in the history of mankind have seen so many facts out in the open and still you come up with the ignorance....i can't believe how people keep their eyes shut, Wake up and smell the ashes.
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GamingAngelGabriel  +   509d ago
As a business move, it's absolutely brilliant to expand the device.
Look, PlayStation is already establishing itself as a pure, core gamer's dream, right? If you can't attract the same demographic, why not attract not only gamers, but also those who want access to other forms of entertainment?
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ThanatosDMC  +   509d ago
PS3 all ready does that... PS4 will continue the trend. Remember the slogan "It only does everything"?
pixelsword  +   509d ago
Good point, Thanatos.
brave27heart  +   508d ago
What should be concerning for Xbox fans is that MS has had a real rough ride lately, their reputation has taken a hit and part of that was their poor launch conference where games were hardly mentioned. There is a real fear that games will be a secondary focus for them behind tv integration, so what they should be doing is focusing on getting that gaming message across to people.

The fact they're still touting entertainment over games shows me they havent really learned from their mistakes.
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kenshiro100  +   509d ago
Mind is completely blown, lol.
ShwankyShpanky  +   509d ago
We know what's most important to Ballmer.
http://www.youtube.com/watc...
dlocsta  +   509d ago
@allformats
The most important thing is that America re-invest in it's education system. You completely changed the context of the sentence. He said, "most importantly, we epeanded Xbox beyond great gaming..." and then he adds, "to deliver all the entertainment people want..." Ballmer is a pretty bad pick to head MS I will give you that and even worse if he has to take charge of Xbox but don't put words in his mouth by changing the context of the words that come out of his mouth. Believe me he will make a stupid enough statement soon enough. Don't rush him.
josephayal  +   509d ago
oh no the horror
horndog  +   509d ago
@allformats

You must be the leader of the tards. You got the quote and you still can't make sense of it. I'll give it a shot.

"most importatnly, WE EXPANDED XBOX TO GO BEYOND GREAT GAMING to deliver all the entertainment people want"

Besides great gaming it will also be able to provide sports, movies etc. or in other words act like a cable box. No where does it say that the extras besides gaming are the priorities. Personally I like MORE OPTIONS on my consoles. I think its great.
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Thomaticus  +   508d ago
Balmer has the vision!
GT67  +   508d ago
if Homer simpson (BALLMER) at the helm of XBONER MS gaming division really in trouble now.

Do'h
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asmith2306  +   508d ago
The direction they are taking with Xbox reeks of PC under the TV in the living room syndrome. All the things he says are basically what a PC can do where the focus is not solely on gaming.
andibandit  +   508d ago
Yes a pc can do all these things, but ordinary people want a pc without the hassle of maintaning a pc
Wizziokid  +   508d ago
I'm not sure they will ever learn...
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Death  +   508d ago
Probably waiting for all the bs to blow through before someone is announced. Mr. Ballmer is in charge of Microsoft and has very little input in the Xbox brand. There are quite a few people that are responsible for what happens day to day. Steve doesn't really look like a gamer to me. Chances are sports, music, movies and live television are probably things he is more interested in. In the end that means nothing as far as Xbox goes. Should we really worry that the Xbox can do all of these things? The PS3 with its media sharing and blu-ray player didn't seem to distract from the games much. Why is this a controvercy?
dont worry it will play games maybe.
vallencer  +   508d ago
I feel like you didn't read his comment. He never said the most important thing was sports, music, and movies all he said was "most importantly, we expanded xbox to go BEYOND". Nothing in that comment states that he thinks the most important thing are the things previously mentioned. In all fairness it doesn't surprise me that microsoft wants to do that it hasn't been a secret since like 09 of the xbox 360 being out. If they can do all that AND make great games then that works for me.
RedHawkX  +   508d ago
i dont get why a few gamers are supporting xbox one at this point. come to the ps4 and give sony the respect and love they deserve then when ms fixes it sh*t you can go back if you dont like the playstation. i dont see why some are trying to fight sony right now when sony is doing everything right. when you do everything right you deserve to get rewarded. now i know a lot of you get pissed at work when you are the best and doing everything right but your boss has favorites and picks his friends or something like that instead of you. so lets not be hypocrits and give our love to sony they are doing the right thing by us its only fair and it will set a precendent that those who do good by the people will always prevail.
Lykon  +   508d ago
Another bloated old bread head in a suit then
JsonHenry  +   508d ago
From a company standpoint that wants to push its many other services into the lives of customers I understand them wanting to have a games console that does much more than just play games. But you won't sell a GAMES CONSOLE by pushing it as a MEDIA HUB.

You want an example of how to get your future product to catch on? Look at the PS3 and Blu-Ray. It was sold as GAMES system that also played Blu-Ray discs. Guess which format one that war? Yeah. Blu-ray. The one that was sold in a system marketed almost solely as a games console.

You want those others features in the Xbox1, MS? Great! But give us a reason to buy the thing based on what it is- PLAYING VIDEO GAMES!!
ATi_Elite  +   508d ago
Microsoft's real plan
MS whole thing with the Xbox was to gain control over the living room and so far they have done a great job and now that the Xbone will play games and be like a cable box I see MS has reached it's Goal.

I keep having to tell you CONSOLERS this isn't about MS vs. Sony (Big picture wise) but more about MS vs. Apple and it's web TV.

Long term business wise: No one gives a CRAP about Sony and it's handful of Exclusives ESPECIALLY when the console market is driven by MULTIPLATS.

I'm excited to see the Move Engines along with Cloud support take Gaming to a new level.

.....and Yes the PS4 is a beast and simple to program for so Sony Devs better bring the HEAT cause right now Titanfall is the best thing coming to consoles and the PS4 will miss out on it.

Seriously get a grip fanboys cause Sony now charges a FEE for online MP just like MS (I told you slugs this was gonna happen) and SOny will try hard to copy MS by offering Entertainment other than games like music/movies but MS has a slight advantage by getting cable companies onboard.
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djfullshred  +   508d ago
lol on the entertainment quote above. It seems pretty dumb to me turning a game console into an entertainment box for everyone, but then still calling it Xbox. When people see the name Xbox, that means game console to them. Nobody who doesn't play games is going to buy something called Xbox. And on the other side of this double edge sword, you have many gamers turned off by adding more features for more cost that are nmot the reason they normally buy this type of device. I am sure MS has a grand plan going on, but not so sure that plan aligns to what consumers really want to buy. And before saying gamers don't want all the other stuff, I know they do...but we already have this stuff. It isn't new. Baasic Blu Ray players have all the streaming apps. on devices, PCs & TVs do too. There is even cheapo devices like Roku...so TV entertainment is not a compelling feature to sell game players IMHO.
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majiebeast  +   509d ago
"The consoles are incredible all-in-one devices with built-in services that consumers love, including Bing, Xbox Live, Internet Explorer, SkyDrive and Skype. And, just as important, Xbox Games, Xbox Video, Xbox Music and SmartGlass light up Windows PCs, tablets and phones."

Notice how games dont even come first this is only the beginning of the entertainment box. Yusuf Medhi is gonna take over Don's position be prepared for more tv and sports.
JBSleek  +   509d ago
I see that being a plus not a minus actually. Talking about it doing more than gaming that is.
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jmc8888  +   509d ago
Not really, you're forgetting everything they are adding, is already being delivered to you by someone else, and probably better.

You mean I can have my fantasy stats from NFL.com up on the screen....yeah...

Except I can watch the game and check on my stats on my PC or smartphone, and I don't need to use NFL.COM. Because if I use yahoo or ESPN or some other fantasy football site, that 'feature' is pretty much useless.

My cable box works fine as a cable box. I don't need Xbox One for that.

Wow you mean I can use my mouth instead of grabbing my remote? Big whoop.

Netflix? First on PC...and thus first on an HDTV. I also don't have to pay for xbox live to access it. Later copied by everyone else.

Hell what does the Xbox One do on this front that is better than the 360?

Microsoft has been wasting time, and oh look, they're not rushing to make the actual console.

So you'll be able to change channels with your voice but now M$ risks having major hardware problems at launch...so many might not be able to use that feature...since they rushed and have a great shot at another RRoD fiasco.
famoussasjohn  +   509d ago
Would it matter if they mentioned it first? We got a pretty big idea on what kind of games and the ability it has at E3. Think of the additional stuff that isn't gaming as bonus stuff if you will.
Narutone66  +   509d ago
So, games is not their primary focus. Then we can stop comparing it to PS4 now. What XB1 is doing, I already saw in a Samsung Smart TV, including the Kinect features. Here's an ad from Samsung: https://www.youtube.com/wat...
Funny thing though, it's Usher in the ad. MS once hired Usher too in their E3.
badkolo  +   508d ago
well then you didnt watch e3 cause ms killed it with games , they had the better show games wise so not sure what your talking aboutr
DigitalRaptor  +   509d ago
It is too early to tell definitively, but this direction and enthusiasm for making money via "broad entertainment" on a gaming console hints at the XBone as a second rate gaming and a jack of all trades media device... you should be able to guess the rest.

How the Xbox loyal can even be pitching this to themselves as a good thing, I don't know. We hear "they're offering you more, how is that a bad thing?". I know when the fundamental part of a gaming console is being diluted and being distracted from by a company with a vision of making money through broader means.

When my smart TV can do all of this, when my laptop and phone and any web browser can do it. You know that this stuff is instantly accessible elsewhere and for free, so why do you all care about a company making more money by adding these redundancies at the expense of a deep gaming industry focus and the reason you buy a gaming console?
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Gekko36  +   508d ago
Are you fucking kidding me!, Sony and Microsoft want to make money, they don't like you, you're just some gobshite who pays for what they are selling.

Marketed like a big shiny toy. Both play games and do other stuff as well. Sony say PS4 is about the gamers and Microsoft says it's about gamers as well as the other TV and pushing games.

Sony and Microsoft aren't nice guys, if they could make a fortune in human trafficking they would.

Corporations are as bad as politicians, they are liars for a living!.

No you're looking at Microsoft like they came in your house on Christmas morning and pissed on your kids. Get some perspective!!

At least with Steve Balmer handling things for now, we should end up with a better marketing message for the masses.
Death  +   508d ago
Safe to say you passed on the PS3 since it had a Bluray player then Raptor? It did nothing for gaming, added to the price and caused the system to launch late. Clearly having an additional feature is bad. I'm with you brother, I have a cell phone for talking, pager for whatever those things do/did, an mp3 player for music, carry a pad of paper, pen and calender where ever I go and a laptop for skype and texting. I also carry around a PSP and/or Gameboy for gaming on the go. Of course the camera is seperate since combining the two is stupid. Much easier to do all this then take away from my phones ability to call people.

Less is more and none of us should rest until Microsoft takes away all these useless added features that we can do seperate and less convenient.

Idiot.
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DigitalRaptor  +   508d ago
@ Gekko

Sadly, I'm not kidding you. I don't expect Sony be my friend, but I respect a company who knows how to treat consumers fairly and and not treat them as fools.

"you're looking at Microsoft like they came in your house on Christmas morning and pissed on your kids. Get some perspective!!"

I'm the one that needs perspective?? Microsoft's words, actions and attempts in recent memory has opened everyone's eyes, clearly except their most loyal. Why support a company that runs on corporate greed and puts the bottom line before the ethics of serving the consumer? Microsoft had it the wrong way around with their policies, and still have it wrong. So yeah, they almost did "piss on my kids" i.e. the industry, and the impact of that would've been irreversible, had people not opened their eyes and stood against a greedy and manipulative corporation.

@ Death

No, I didn't pass on PS3 because it had Blu-ray for the same reason I didn't pass on PS2 because it had DVD. It's a format. I waited for the price to go down, because I knew it would.

If it did nothing for gaming, then why do Microsoft now use Blu-ray and why do Nintendo have their own proprietary form of Blu-ray discs? The benefits of Blu-ray for games on consoles have become more and more apparent as time has gone on and what I just said proves it.

And I've heard that tired, boring excuse about "carrying many devices". It's just not comparable at all. THINK. A phone's main function, which is communication, will never be diluted by additional features. There is no danger of the PRIMARY focus of a phone of being lost, as it will always have the same focus on communication.

No matter how you want to defend them, Microsoft's direction and diluted focus for a gaming console's PRIMARY function is a massive distraction and if they had it their way, would be a lesser focus at the expense of what makes them more money. Listen to what Steve Ballmer wants to turn Xbox into and you can see that THAT does nothing for gaming.

This is where Steve Ballmer would like to take Xbox, as this nasty display is where the company is headed: http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Sony/Valve etc, these companies give you more, but they do it the right way. A company that charges to use free services doesn't deserve anyone's respect. This is just the tip of the iceberg.

Forced ads are just another addition to this inexcusably terrible direction that we all saw coming. Just watch this to see why people have issue with Microsoft. http://www.youtube.com/watc...

These issues are not just in "the minds of Sony fanboys", as much as you'd like to believe otherwise.
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Prcko  +   509d ago
isn't Steve Ballmer turned record profits while he was in charge of Microsoft?
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dedicatedtogamers  +   509d ago
He is still in charge of Microsoft (the CEO) and no, I think he's actually lost Microsoft money, though it may not necessarily be his fault.

AFAIK, Microsoft's value prior to Ballmer was somewhere around $550 billion and now it's down below $300 billion.
Loki86  +   509d ago
Where do you get your facts, obviously not from anywhere reliable. MS has increased it's total revenue every year except the transitional year when Ballmer took over.

http://www.statista.com/sta...
MikeMyers  +   509d ago
Not sure where he gets his facts. Perhaps The Official Playstation Magazine or The National Enquirer. A few weeks ago he said the Xbox One would not support used games even though it did before the DRM was dropped. Does anyone know why he still insist in frequenting Xbox One topics?

The original Xbox lost Microsoft quite a bit of money, the Xbox 360 made money.

http://www.microsoft.com/en...

2009 is the only year Microsoft didn't not have any growth since 2003 (which is how far that dates back).

Q3 for 2013,

http://www.theverge.com/201...

"Revenues for its business division grew 5 percent to $6.1 billion, while the entertainment and devices division grew 33 percent to $2.2 billion (year-over-year, after adjustments). Xbox Live in particular had a nice quarter — the service now has 46 million users, up 18 percent from one year ago."
PirateThom  +   509d ago
The thing you need to remember with Microsoft is that their investors really want them out of gaming. Ballmer, like him or hate him, is the one keeping the brand in place and fighting against the share holders on it.

The PR disaster the XBone has been won't sit well with the shareholders either and Ballmer accepting a more direct approach may be their appeasement so another disaster falls on Ballmer's head directly and they can get rid of him and the biggest defender of the XBox Microsoft has at high levels or leave him with no choice but to drop the brand should it go to hell.
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EXVirtual  +   508d ago
True. But from reading that article, it seems that Ballmer is trying to please the investors by making it in all in one device. Next year at E3, it'll all be about system updates for TV and music.

I like yor points. I really don't think the bad PR is gonna stop and coincidentally, the highest guy in the xbox division leaving the company during this disaster doesn't look good on Microsoft. The disaster is probably get worse, especially if they put back in the DRM when they sell enough units. Then they'll either get rid of this guy, then get rid of the Xbox division or, he gives up on the Xbox and they investors shut it down with his approval.
Death  +   508d ago
Why would you even think that is a possibility? Xbox makes Microsoft money. The userbase expanded this gen from 25 million to 80 million. You think this is a warning sign of things to come?

Sony is much closer to pulling the plug on the console business than Microsoft and I still don't see that happening either.
PirateThom  +   508d ago
You may not see it happening but the shareholders and board at Microsoft have wanted the brand sold or spun off for years because, to be frank, the Xbox brand still hasn't made a profit. Yearly, yes. Overall? Never and it likely never will. The brand has made 0 profit. It is down almost $3bn over the past 10 years with profits down last year from 2011.

This isn't some sort of dream or speculation based on a poor reveal. This is shareholders wanting to make money off a brand which is, overall, in negatives. Sony has lost way more on the PS3 but the PS brand has been profitable but it's wholly irrelevant to bring up.
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Death  +   508d ago
Thom,

Where do you get these numbers from? Companies do not carry losses year after year. I suppose you can take the net losses and profits from each year to see where they stand if you want to track it that way, but that isn't how investing works. Each fiscal year is new and profits are either paid as dividends or losses are paid by the companies reserves. If the company doesn't have reserves, loans are taken out and calculated into the companies budget. Shareholders really don't give a damn how a company makes money, they just want their investments to pay dividends. Not sure which shareholders are demanding Microsoft off the EDD. If I were a shareholder I would be happy the division is contributing to my stocks value and making me money. Sony on the other hand lost money as a company 4 years in a row and sold off assets to prevent a 5th. The stock was lowered to junk status which doesn't typically sit well with investors. I could see some investors wanting non-profitable divisions axed, but even then it's probably a bad idea without an alternate plan of generating revenue.

http://www.joystiq.com/2012...

http://www.engadget.com/201...

http://www.techradar.com/us...

http://gamer.blorge.com/201...

I've seen the 2.8 billion lost over the life of the Xbox brand. I've also seen where the Playstation brand has lost 5 billion. It's still not counted like that so both numbers are irrelevant.
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JBSleek  +   509d ago
It is also likely because Microsoft is doing a major reconstructing of executives and their business models so with this news they likely will have to push that back a bit to find someone to replace him.

The rumors were he was going to be one of the big three executives to get more power as MSFT turned Xbox into more of a brand and service.
e-p-ayeaH  +   509d ago
Microsoft´s last attempt on gaming consoles please let it happen gaming was alot better before they came along.
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dark-hollow  +   509d ago
Ps3 2006: "Give it tiiiiimeee! Am sick of this doom and gloom crap"

Xbox one (BEFORE IT LAUNCH) : "lol Microsoft are so doomed"

Smh
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KillrateOmega  +   509d ago
Just gonna run damage control on every comment that's not pro-Xbox, aren't you?

I mean, e-p-ayeaH wasn't even saying anything directly related to MS being doomed. All he did was express his opinion that gaming was better before MS came along.
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creatchee  +   509d ago
@KillrateOmega

"Just gonna run damage control on every comment that's not pro-Xbox, aren't you?"

This, coming from one of the biggest propagators of anti-Xbox comments.
Loki86  +   509d ago
Last, attempt?? their install base grew from the 22 million of the original Xbox to just under 80 million this gen and destroyed in the US and UK markets. They have been good for gaming and have pushed the market forwards. Just because you don't like their brand or what they have done recently doesn't mean they haven't had a major impact on gaming in general.

@below: no words to describe how ignorant you are of anything related to this topic. Just bow out.
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e-p-ayeaH  +   509d ago
Only in US actually and that was mostly because it came sooner and included better games than PS3 for some years but now that´s all changed.

People dont care about a brand if it doesnt provide a good price and good products.
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Fireseed  +   509d ago
To think that letting Sony run only opposed by Nintendo would be good for the industry is stupid. I'm sorry I usually talk in a respectful manner towards others on this site, but you sir are a blind fan boy piece of shit.
Swiggins  +   509d ago
You're a fool for thinking so.

Them providing Sony with some genuine competition for the home console market ALONE has done wonders for the industry.

They also set the bar when it came to how to handle a consoles online experience.

They were the ones to originally push the (now limited) RAM a console could have. Without the Xbox the PS3 might have been half as powerful as it is.

Not to mention the plethora of games Microsoft gave us...Halo, Mass Effect, Lost Odyssey, Gears of War.

Microsoft is hitting a rough patch, yes, but I remember the shitstorm that Sony went through 8 years ago. Back then people claimed it was the end of the Playstation brand.
Death  +   508d ago
"Microsoft´s last attempt on gaming consoles please let it happen gaming was alot better before they came along"

Respect your opinion, but back it up with a statement on how Microsoft made it worse. I've been gaming since before the Atari 2600 and have yet to see any company make gaming worse. I've seen unsuccessful consoles, but not a company that impacted gaming in a negative way. I suppose Atari kind of brought in the big "crash", but they were not the only ones to blame.
Loki86  +   509d ago
This is too much workload for Ballmer, they will likely wait a few days to find the right guy for the job or hire within.
famoussasjohn  +   509d ago
Insert Darth Vader - "Noooooooooooo" gif.
KillrateOmega  +   509d ago
I Got Your Back, Bro!
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http://images.wikia.com/ica...
Evildoomnerd  +   509d ago
I got this covered.

http://www.nooooooooooooooo...
KillrateOmega  +   509d ago
Dammit. Yours was better :(

Well played, good sir. Well played indeed.
famoussasjohn  +   509d ago
Bahahahah!
No_Limit  +   509d ago
With Ballmer, I can see tons of studio and game acquisitions going on. This guy don't mess around. This is the same guy that wanted to buy out Facebook at $15 billion in 2010, almost succeeded in buying out Yahoo, bought out skype at 8.5 billion, and Microsoft has had record quarters almost every quarter under Ballmer's leadership. It Should be interesting if he is indeed the new Xbox boss.
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GreenRanger  +   509d ago
@ No_Limit
I think he's just a temporary CEO.
SpideySpeakz  +   508d ago
Calm down, fanboy. We aren't out the woods yet.
the_espresso_kid  +   509d ago
Oh man, this is bad news. Baldmer is the worst thing to happen to Microsoft. They should have brought back Bill Gates as a consultant. This is the guy who said both the iphone and ipad were going to flop.
IcicleTrepan  +   508d ago
The worst thing? He's been at MS since the beginning. You don't know history.
the_espresso_kid  +   508d ago
I'm talking about when he was made CEO.
EXVirtual  +   509d ago
If this is true... WOAH. This next gen just keeps getting more and more interesting. Epic from Sony and Nintendo Hilarious, from Microsoft.
Rusty515  +   509d ago
Lol. What has Nintendo done that's so epic? They have a terribly underpowered console, with a gimmicky touchpad (that they somehow thought would get people to buy it which didn't happen), overpriced, we have no games for the wii u, and we STILL have to wait until 2014 to get the heavy hitters like Smash Bros and mario kart 8. I would include the new mario, but that new 3D Mario is underwhelming.It should have just been a 3DS sequel to 3D Land. I'm beyond disappointed with Nintendo right now and it amazes me how people think they are doing well. (With the wii u that is. The 3DS kicks ass)
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EXVirtual  +   509d ago
Seriously if this happens, the xbox brand is gonna die 10x quicker... and I'm happy. Gaming was better before they came along.
ElementX  +   509d ago
What has MS done that's affected you and your Sony console personally?
first1NFANTRY  +   509d ago
they introduced dlc's, timed exclusives, gimped multiplats etc etc...would you like the list to go on fanboy?
sAVAge_bEaST  +   509d ago
Corporate whored with call of duty,.
Started online pay/wall
started timed exclusives & pay for map packs.
took friends away online during 360 start.,
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ElementX  +   509d ago
LOL, DLC was always around. PC games have had add-ons for years. Are you opposed to additional extra content? Don't buy it! Online pay wall? Sony didn't have to copy, they chose to. Do you think Sony would always allow free online? Gimped multiplats? Sony themselves recently said the Cell was difficult to program for and the PS4 would be much easier. Blame the developers on crappy ports. What's wrong with timed exclusives? PS3 had better exclusives anyway.

I'm not a fanboy, I don't even own a 360 anymore, I have PC, Vita, PS3, and 3DS currently. IamNate on PSN! :) natepeterson (elementx) on Steam!
insomnium2  +   508d ago
Everything the other 2 said plus you just know MS is silently waiting for people to take the bait and BAM they implement DRM and stop funding core-games. Didn't we learn ANYTHING with the x360?
Stryfeno2  +   509d ago
Ballmer please get someone good this time around.
Lucreto  +   509d ago
He is going to pick someone who mirrors his vision on the entertainment aspect of XBox One.
Stryfeno2  +   509d ago
I hope it is someone like Jay Allard, he did great in the entertainment aspect and gaming.
myala509  +   509d ago
What? A company doesn't rush to appoint someone to run a division of thousands of people? CRAZY! And the guy that is running things now...is the guy that has always been running things? CRAZY!
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GreenRanger  +   509d ago
I've just filled out a job application form and wrote my CV on a piece of a Corn Flakes box, and sent it to Microsoft.

I should be the new CEO in a matter of hours.
Swiggins  +   509d ago
As a shareholder, you have my vote.
first1NFANTRY  +   509d ago
Man this guy is worst than Mattrick himself. I sure can't wait to see over the top XBone commercials staring Ballmer if this is true lol.
S2Killinit  +   509d ago
this is what happens when a non-gaming company muscles its way into the market because the profits catch their eyes.
airgangstarr  +   509d ago
Meet the new boss same as the old boss!!!
AllroundGamer  +   509d ago
the pic is showing the exact Ballmers expression, when he's watching you through Kinect fapping...
Nodoze  +   509d ago
Wow. Night night Microsoft. Your stay in the gaming industry was short lived.

Sports sports sports...
http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Good luck gamers. The person now in charge of gaming is a SPORTS NUT.
sAVAge_bEaST  +   509d ago
looked like he was coked out of his mind,. and thought he was motely crew, himself. -Give it up for ME.
Clarence  +   509d ago
This is not good at all.
No_Limit  +   509d ago
MS did a 180 on DRM = Fanboys find new ways to complain
MS partnership with Unity to help out Indies = Fanboys find new ways to complain
MS integrating Windows 8 platform with Xbox1 = Fanboys find new ways to complain
MS got rid of the man many thought was responsible with the whole PR fiasco and DRM issue = Fanboys find new ways to complain

What is next on the list people?
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Stryfeno2  +   509d ago
Games...the will complain about the games. Oh...wait a minute, that already happened.
theWB27  +   509d ago
Seriously...I don't think half the people really believe what they post on here or have any sense of the business side of things. They think of the most ridiculous thing they can post and sit back waiting for someone to respond.

Some people actually think this is Microsofts last console and it's doomed before it even launches. Couple years down the road when they see ALL the benefits you get from the X1 and how it connects things will even out.

I'd rather pay the extra 100 bucks for everything Im getting with the X1 especially when there isn't a SINGLE game that shows off the PS4's power over the X1. That's damning considering it also handles the other features...like instant switch...that the X1 handles.
insomnium2  +   508d ago
Ummmm... as long as there is truth behind the complaints....what's the problem?

MS got rid of DRM? The act of putting it there in the first place only points out where their interests lay. The only reason they switched it off was due to xbone flopping on every possible level from PR/public image to pre-orders. Had the crowd eaten it up a little better it would be DRM all the way. DRM shouldn't even be implied so by doing that they lost every gamer out there. Changing it back doesn't bring the trust back. How could it?

Indies have been ignored by MS all the time. Sony is forcing them to change things. It doesn't mean they want to do it out of kindness and fairness. They are forced to do it to remain competitive.

Windows on a console? By the gods I will never own one that's for sure. That reason ALONE is enough for that desicion. Windows is s*it and successful only because of the monopoly behind it.

Fire one deuce and hire another deuche. What's the difference? I know. They should put Aaron Greenburg in charge. That's bound to boost the spirit.

@WB

I hope this will be the last console for MS. They should've kept out of gaming entirely after xbox but since money truly CAN buy you anything in the world there was no way to prevent this.
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GABRIEL1030  +   509d ago
Oh boy, now what's next?

http://www.youtube.com/watc...
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ruefrak  +   509d ago
I think this should settle the debate on whether he was forced out or not. Microsoft was taken by surprise on this one and the fact they did not have a successor ready only points to that. They should have had at the very least a temporary replacement to oversee the team who is not the CEO of all of Microsoft. Phil Harrison, the VP wasn't even brought up to take over temporarily? I thought that is what the VP was for?
So why did Mattrick leave? He was slated for a promotion despite the recent PR mistakes. It's said he wanted to move to the Bay area, and since Zynga is headquartered there, that made sense. But why does a rising executive at MS give it all up an go work at a failing company that makes mobile games? Maybe Mattrick wasn't happy with the direction Xbox was being forced to go. Maybe in some strange way he really was all about the games and the gamers but forces outside his control were steering things in a different direction.
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Loki86  +   509d ago
People are missing the big picture here since 2008 Mattrick wanted to hit the casual audience, as was evident from every disappointing big games conference. He shifted the focus from hardcore games to only two to three titles a year with guaranteed existing franchises. He was also responsible for most of the policies that were put into place this generation that effected the core gamer. Ballmer is an incredibly intelligent person and he will appoint someone who will stick with the focus of this console, it may be all in one, but a heavy focus towards games as was evident at E3 and will continue to evident at gamescom. He was responsible for the creation of 4 new first party MS studios and a focus on new IPs with alot of potential. I fully expect a huge turnaround for the brand back to the early days when Xbox focused on what gamers wanted and hopefully we will see this continued growth with this console, but much less central focus of the casual gamers.

If it doesn't work out and I am happier with the PS4 and it's titles then I will gladly purchase that console, all I am saying is it not all doom and gloom for MS as this site ALWAYS makes it out to be.
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badboy776  +   509d ago
I eat Children
Statix  +   509d ago
Maybe now Ballmer will finally lose that annoying hair on the sides of his head as well.
gnothe1  +   509d ago
I GARUENTEE if it was sony that showed the features of the XBone..it would have been the best system EVER...but because its MS its constant hate from this site...an im glad the N4G is the minority of gamers in the world...their the worst
ricardoeml  +   509d ago
men, this guy is scary as hell...
Tony-A  +   509d ago
Good God, please, no...
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