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Microsoft: Xbox One And PS4's Published Specs "Might Not Tell The Whole Story On Performance"

Official Xbox Magazine: ''Microsoft' product planning manager Albert Penello has chimed in on last week's OXM story about "meaningless" PS4 and Xbox One spec comparisons, reiterating that "great games are what matters". He also, however, hinted that Xbox One's specifications might not offer a fair indication of what the machine will be capable of come release day.''

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KillrateOmega1507d ago (Edited 1507d ago )

Pull a Mark Cerny by giving us breakdowns and detailed interviews. Do that, and then we'll shut up...for 5 min :P

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"And while you guys joke about the cloud stuff, I think the stuff the Respawn guys have said starts to clear up what we've been talking about with cloud performance."

Yes. Dedicated servers. Kneel before the infinite power of the cloud, peasants.
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"I was there, and while I know RYSE took a hit on the gameplay that was shown, I thought it was the most next-gen looking game I saw on either platform. Of course, I get I'm biased and I didn't have time to see everything."

In terms of raw aesthetic detail, then Ryse was, admittedly, impressive; however, I believe that MGS5 was the best-looking game at E3. Just my opinion.
Now, are shiny plates of armor enough to make a game full of QTEs (that you can't even fail) interesting? No.

MysticStrummer1507d ago

I thought Ryse looked fun, but in my opinion saying it was the most next-gen looking game at E3 is ridiculous. There were multi-plats and exclusives on both consoles that looked better to me.

Cmk01211507d ago

god of war the pinncale of the hack em slash em is QTE riddled. its all about what you like and dont.

Mounce1507d ago (Edited 1507d ago )

MGS5 or even Watchdogs

Ryse was like a Call of Duty game mixed with a medicore hack n' slash action game and a 'Press X to win' aesthetic.

if 'Next gen' is defined with reference to Ryse? I don't want to know what the future holds. lol

It seriously irked me horribly by it being a sword-based medieval game(As I love anything to do with swords like Dark Souls') and all it did was fucking tell you in COD-like objectives WHAT TO DO, WHERE TO GO, WHAT YOU NEED TO DO. Ryse made 'Mommy holding your hand' feel too embarrassingly true.

@Cmk0121 - Not really....God of War had QTE in pinnacle moments like at an end of a big monsters' fight - you do the QTE to regenerate magic/life(can't remember which) while just killing them by cutting them up to death would give the other. That or made use in bosses in a finale to transition you from one place to another. RYSE....simply is "Quick, press a button to have the game do the work and kill this guy for you and try to make you look like a badass" - it just tries too hard to impress the easily entertained in my honest opinion.

HammadTheBeast1507d ago

@Cmk0121

Except Crytek has trash game play, all they can do is make tech demos. I'm not saying it was bad by any means, I'm just saying you have to acknowledge how scripted it was and how linear it was, which makes it easy to get graphics like that. Also the filters were horrible, and it looked dull.

Enemy1507d ago

Microsoft can do nothing to combat PS4's superior specs.

Mainsqueeze1507d ago

MGS5, The Division, and The Whitcher 3 all had better graphics.

inveni01507d ago

I wish they'd show us some of this cool cloud processing power.

Sony has a cloud, too. In fact, it's more established and running on patented technology. No one even knows how MS's servers work. They keep telling us that there's more to the console than specs, but seem to be refusing to show us anything (or are trying to rig something up before we lose interest).

StoutBEER1507d ago

I want The Division. Looks amazing

zebramocha1507d ago

@enemy Yes they can,damage control their butts off.

mewhy321507d ago

well of course this kind of article would appear in the official xbox magazine. What are they gonna say? Uhhhhh the PS4 is definately more powerful that the Xbox but we have to say that it doesn't really matter? LOL Of course they're gonna say that the weaker box may actually end up being the best .... because they're 50% weaker ROFL

sobekflakmonkey1507d ago

The Division in my opinion was the best looking game, I don't know why, just graphically looks ridiculously awesome.

minimur121507d ago

the xbox has 4 billion transisotrs

TheHierarchy1507d ago

@Enemy
Microsoft can do nothing to combat PS4's superior specs.

What law dictates that numbers can't be beaten by others? that's like saying "we can't count to 100 because 50 is the maximum".

Microsoft's specs were based on their own choices not sony's.

toshan1507d ago

they made ryse only because they had no god of war but still god of war>ryse
PS4 FTW !!!

badz1491507d ago

I agree that GoW is the pinnacle of hack 'n slash but comparing the QTE with Ryse?? c'mon...that's the most ignorant comment I've ever read!

and GoW only has fixed camera to make the graphic look gorgeous but Ryse took it to another level by focusing on the main character to smoke and mirror the bland background just to make the main character look good! and still...

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that was achieved in 2010! attention to details on Kratos is IMO still 2nd to none!

Utalkin2me1507d ago (Edited 1507d ago )

@Cmk0121

Then we have played different versions of God of War. To say they are riddled with qte is just ridiculous. On the finishing moves of bosses does it have qte, sure it does. But does it have a qte at every peon? Absolutely not.

malokevi1507d ago

"Ryse was like a Call of Duty game mixed with..."

ahahahahaha. Oh god, just stop.

I refuse to read another word.

DragonKnight1506d ago

@@Cmk0121: The difference between God of War QTEs and Ryse QTEs is night and day. God of War used them for ending a fight, or moving along sequences in a boss fight. Ryse used them for almost every single hit in a regular grunt fight. That's pathetic.

On Topic: Of course the one with the weaker position in terms of tech is going to say "specs might not tell the whole story." They are using smoke and mirrors to sell the cloud to the naive who'll buy into it. Microsoft haven't clarified anything about the cloud. They say 300,000 servers but don't say if they are real or virtual. They say the power of the cloud, yet only mention dedicated servers. Cloud computing is this gen's ridiculous promise. Just as Sony did when Ken Kutaragi made the claim of the PS3 outputting at 4D, 120FPS, and 1080p.

Anyone with half a brain knows the bandwidth doesn't exist to do what Microsoft is claiming their Azure cloud service can do.

So as of this second, until Microsoft breaks down their cloud system with real examples, Sony's PS4 is superior tech to Microsoft's Xbox One.

But given that Sony isn't even trying to focus on graphically powerful games and is instead focusing simply on games period, who the hell cares what console can output better graphics. We also know that Microsoft will buy parity from 3rd party developers, so it's all moot.

CoolBeansRus1506d ago

Only time will tell which has the most capability.

malokevi1506d ago

@CoolBeansRus

lol. Annnnd u immediately got one disagree. Of course.

Time wont tell!! Rumors, speculation, and my per-conceived notions of what I like better will be the deciding factor.

What are you, smart?

alb18991506d ago (Edited 1506d ago )

I know but ryse looks crazy!
I was impres by infamous, killer instict, the division, Forza, battlefield.......I mean a lot of games even assassins creed!

NEXT GEN WILL BE IN SANE!

Opinions are just that, opinions!

Dead_Cell1506d ago

Ryse and CoD are literally nothing alike, what the hell are you smoking?

MikeMyers1506d ago (Edited 1506d ago )

@DragonKnight,
"The difference between God of War QTEs and Ryse QTEs is night and day. God of War used them for ending a fight, or moving along sequences in a boss fight. Ryse used them for almost every single hit in a regular grunt fight. That's pathetic."

So you've played Ryse? How is it?

"On Topic: Of course the one with the weaker position in terms of tech is going to say "specs might not tell the whole story." They are using smoke and mirrors to sell the cloud to the naive who'll buy into it. Microsoft haven't clarified anything about the cloud. They say 300,000 servers but don't say if they are real or virtual. They say the power of the cloud, yet only mention dedicated servers. Cloud computing is this gen's ridiculous promise. Just as Sony did when Ken Kutaragi made the claim of the PS3 outputting at 4D, 120FPS, and 1080p."

So you've played games on the Xbox One and have experience with those games on the cloud? How were they?

"Anyone with half a brain knows the bandwidth doesn't exist to do what Microsoft is claiming their Azure cloud service can do."

Thankfully we have you to make those corrections.

"So as of this second, until Microsoft breaks down their cloud system with real examples, Sony's PS4 is superior tech to Microsoft's Xbox One."

So you played those PS4 games and Xbox One games and came to this conclusion yourself? Again we thank you for those unbiased reviews.

"But given that Sony isn't even trying to focus on graphically powerful games and is instead focusing simply on games period, who the hell cares what console can output better graphics. We also know that Microsoft will buy parity from 3rd party developers, so it's all moot."

Of course. All those demo's of Killzone: Shadow Fall were not to promote graphics. That tech demo from Quantic Dream was not to showcase the power either, just like what they did on the PS3.

If you don't want parity start supporting the PC. We've already witnessed games being compromised because of how popular consoles are. We've also seen the PS2 dominate and be the lead platform because of it even though the original Xbox was a lot more powerful. But I guess back then it wasn't a problem was it since the PS2 had great games right? No, whatever technical advantages the original Xbox and PC had at the time was irrelevant. Amazing how now it's such a big focus when Microsoft becomes more competitive. All of the sudden all those Sony fans come out of the woodwork and tell everyone how unfair things are. Having timed exclusives on games like GTA didn't matter on the PS2 either but when we've seen it happen on the Xbox 360 all of the sudden Sony fans once again come out of the woodwork.

Is it impossible for Sony loyalists to actually enjoy the Playstation systems without throwing the competition under the bus on a daily basis? Seems to me that is the only way they enjoy Sony platforms is if they can downplay the competition every chance they get. Which is odd seeing as how I was one of the first to buy a PS One system from the Sony store on day one for $299. I've been a fan for years. I didn't know part of the prerequisite for being a fan meant being a fanboy.

DragonKnight1506d ago

@Mike: I don't care if I have to repeat it until the end of my life. Answer the question of why you follow me around, and maybe I'll acknowledge any B.S. you want to talk about. Until then, you are simply wasting time. I suppose that means nothing for someone who has nothing but time to waste.

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AnteCash1507d ago

http://www.ign.com/images/g...

That is the most next-gen looking game he sawon either platform?? woow ....

HammadTheBeast1507d ago

The character models look great, but the environment is very bland.

starchild1507d ago (Edited 1507d ago )

Yeah, definitely not the best. But then again, Infamous Second Son didn't blow me away either:
http://www.ign.com/images/g...

In terms of textures, character models, lighting, shadow resolution and quality and things like that, the two games are fairly similar. Infamous Second Son just has more color, but anybody with an ounce of technical knowledge knows that color palette has zero to do with graphical performance.

sobekflakmonkey1507d ago (Edited 1507d ago )

Infamous: Second Son looks better and its an open world game....but yeah, I think The Division looked the most impressive, but thats just me.

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Destrania1507d ago (Edited 1507d ago )

The Division looks stunning. Can't wait for next gen. For now, back to The Last of Us.

Hercules1891507d ago

It looks much better in motion. If you watch it above 720p you can tell that this game is truly amazing looking, now art style is an opinion but you cant just say that this game looks like its possible on ps3. Look at the smoke and fire effects the reflections in the water, everything about this game looks great. Some of these screens look like they captured them at the wrong time.

itBourne1507d ago

The Division and Infamous were the best looking games, I think Sony made a mistake not showing gameplay for Infamous at their conference because it was freaking awesome.

Ju1507d ago

"Some of these screens look like they captured them at the wrong time."

Yeah, like during game play. LOL.

The camera focuses on the main character. That's where they put all the details and make him look great. But if you actually look into the environments or god forbid into the distance there is nothing there.

Go look for a shot where you can see the landing ships in the background. There is virtually no more detail in in the distance. The rocks become blocks, the water flat, the ships last gen.

If this is an indicator what the XBone can do, than by all means, the PS4 is twice as powerful. We will have some discussions when both release this fall. Some people will be getting a wake-up call.

I agree. The Division took me by surprise. And topped already good looking games. The shear amount of "useless" debris in each scene in this game is quite impressive which makes it very live like. Never seen anything like that before because those things looked like real geometry not just "texture painted".