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Microsoft: Xbox One And PS4's Published Specs "Might Not Tell The Whole Story On Performance"

Official Xbox Magazine: ''Microsoft' product planning manager Albert Penello has chimed in on last week's OXM story about "meaningless" PS4 and Xbox One spec comparisons, reiterating that "great games are what matters". He also, however, hinted that Xbox One's specifications might not offer a fair indication of what the machine will be capable of come release day.''

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KillrateOmega1187d ago (Edited 1187d ago )

Pull a Mark Cerny by giving us breakdowns and detailed interviews. Do that, and then we'll shut up...for 5 min :P

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"And while you guys joke about the cloud stuff, I think the stuff the Respawn guys have said starts to clear up what we've been talking about with cloud performance."

Yes. Dedicated servers. Kneel before the infinite power of the cloud, peasants.
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"I was there, and while I know RYSE took a hit on the gameplay that was shown, I thought it was the most next-gen looking game I saw on either platform. Of course, I get I'm biased and I didn't have time to see everything."

In terms of raw aesthetic detail, then Ryse was, admittedly, impressive; however, I believe that MGS5 was the best-looking game at E3. Just my opinion.
Now, are shiny plates of armor enough to make a game full of QTEs (that you can't even fail) interesting? No.

MysticStrummer1187d ago

I thought Ryse looked fun, but in my opinion saying it was the most next-gen looking game at E3 is ridiculous. There were multi-plats and exclusives on both consoles that looked better to me.

Cmk01211187d ago

god of war the pinncale of the hack em slash em is QTE riddled. its all about what you like and dont.

Mounce1187d ago (Edited 1187d ago )

MGS5 or even Watchdogs

Ryse was like a Call of Duty game mixed with a medicore hack n' slash action game and a 'Press X to win' aesthetic.

if 'Next gen' is defined with reference to Ryse? I don't want to know what the future holds. lol

It seriously irked me horribly by it being a sword-based medieval game(As I love anything to do with swords like Dark Souls') and all it did was fucking tell you in COD-like objectives WHAT TO DO, WHERE TO GO, WHAT YOU NEED TO DO. Ryse made 'Mommy holding your hand' feel too embarrassingly true.

@Cmk0121 - Not really....God of War had QTE in pinnacle moments like at an end of a big monsters' fight - you do the QTE to regenerate magic/life(can't remember which) while just killing them by cutting them up to death would give the other. That or made use in bosses in a finale to transition you from one place to another. RYSE....simply is "Quick, press a button to have the game do the work and kill this guy for you and try to make you look like a badass" - it just tries too hard to impress the easily entertained in my honest opinion.

HammadTheBeast1187d ago

@Cmk0121

Except Crytek has trash game play, all they can do is make tech demos. I'm not saying it was bad by any means, I'm just saying you have to acknowledge how scripted it was and how linear it was, which makes it easy to get graphics like that. Also the filters were horrible, and it looked dull.

Enemy1187d ago

Microsoft can do nothing to combat PS4's superior specs.

Mainsqueeze1187d ago

MGS5, The Division, and The Whitcher 3 all had better graphics.

inveni01187d ago

I wish they'd show us some of this cool cloud processing power.

Sony has a cloud, too. In fact, it's more established and running on patented technology. No one even knows how MS's servers work. They keep telling us that there's more to the console than specs, but seem to be refusing to show us anything (or are trying to rig something up before we lose interest).

StoutBEER1187d ago

I want The Division. Looks amazing

zebramocha1187d ago

@enemy Yes they can,damage control their butts off.

mewhy321187d ago

well of course this kind of article would appear in the official xbox magazine. What are they gonna say? Uhhhhh the PS4 is definately more powerful that the Xbox but we have to say that it doesn't really matter? LOL Of course they're gonna say that the weaker box may actually end up being the best .... because they're 50% weaker ROFL

sobekflakmonkey1187d ago

The Division in my opinion was the best looking game, I don't know why, just graphically looks ridiculously awesome.

minimur121187d ago

the xbox has 4 billion transisotrs

TheHierarchy1187d ago

@Enemy
Microsoft can do nothing to combat PS4's superior specs.

What law dictates that numbers can't be beaten by others? that's like saying "we can't count to 100 because 50 is the maximum".

Microsoft's specs were based on their own choices not sony's.

toshan1187d ago

they made ryse only because they had no god of war but still god of war>ryse
PS4 FTW !!!

badz1491187d ago

I agree that GoW is the pinnacle of hack 'n slash but comparing the QTE with Ryse?? c'mon...that's the most ignorant comment I've ever read!

and GoW only has fixed camera to make the graphic look gorgeous but Ryse took it to another level by focusing on the main character to smoke and mirror the bland background just to make the main character look good! and still...

http://savenload.files.word...

that was achieved in 2010! attention to details on Kratos is IMO still 2nd to none!

Utalkin2me1187d ago (Edited 1187d ago )

@Cmk0121

Then we have played different versions of God of War. To say they are riddled with qte is just ridiculous. On the finishing moves of bosses does it have qte, sure it does. But does it have a qte at every peon? Absolutely not.

malokevi1186d ago

"Ryse was like a Call of Duty game mixed with..."

ahahahahaha. Oh god, just stop.

I refuse to read another word.

DragonKnight1186d ago

@@Cmk0121: The difference between God of War QTEs and Ryse QTEs is night and day. God of War used them for ending a fight, or moving along sequences in a boss fight. Ryse used them for almost every single hit in a regular grunt fight. That's pathetic.

On Topic: Of course the one with the weaker position in terms of tech is going to say "specs might not tell the whole story." They are using smoke and mirrors to sell the cloud to the naive who'll buy into it. Microsoft haven't clarified anything about the cloud. They say 300,000 servers but don't say if they are real or virtual. They say the power of the cloud, yet only mention dedicated servers. Cloud computing is this gen's ridiculous promise. Just as Sony did when Ken Kutaragi made the claim of the PS3 outputting at 4D, 120FPS, and 1080p.

Anyone with half a brain knows the bandwidth doesn't exist to do what Microsoft is claiming their Azure cloud service can do.

So as of this second, until Microsoft breaks down their cloud system with real examples, Sony's PS4 is superior tech to Microsoft's Xbox One.

But given that Sony isn't even trying to focus on graphically powerful games and is instead focusing simply on games period, who the hell cares what console can output better graphics. We also know that Microsoft will buy parity from 3rd party developers, so it's all moot.

CoolBeansRus1186d ago

Only time will tell which has the most capability.

malokevi1186d ago

@CoolBeansRus

lol. Annnnd u immediately got one disagree. Of course.

Time wont tell!! Rumors, speculation, and my per-conceived notions of what I like better will be the deciding factor.

What are you, smart?

alb18991186d ago (Edited 1186d ago )

I know but ryse looks crazy!
I was impres by infamous, killer instict, the division, Forza, battlefield.......I mean a lot of games even assassins creed!

NEXT GEN WILL BE IN SANE!

Opinions are just that, opinions!

Dead_Cell1186d ago

Ryse and CoD are literally nothing alike, what the hell are you smoking?

MikeMyers1186d ago (Edited 1186d ago )

@DragonKnight,
"The difference between God of War QTEs and Ryse QTEs is night and day. God of War used them for ending a fight, or moving along sequences in a boss fight. Ryse used them for almost every single hit in a regular grunt fight. That's pathetic."

So you've played Ryse? How is it?

"On Topic: Of course the one with the weaker position in terms of tech is going to say "specs might not tell the whole story." They are using smoke and mirrors to sell the cloud to the naive who'll buy into it. Microsoft haven't clarified anything about the cloud. They say 300,000 servers but don't say if they are real or virtual. They say the power of the cloud, yet only mention dedicated servers. Cloud computing is this gen's ridiculous promise. Just as Sony did when Ken Kutaragi made the claim of the PS3 outputting at 4D, 120FPS, and 1080p."

So you've played games on the Xbox One and have experience with those games on the cloud? How were they?

"Anyone with half a brain knows the bandwidth doesn't exist to do what Microsoft is claiming their Azure cloud service can do."

Thankfully we have you to make those corrections.

"So as of this second, until Microsoft breaks down their cloud system with real examples, Sony's PS4 is superior tech to Microsoft's Xbox One."

So you played those PS4 games and Xbox One games and came to this conclusion yourself? Again we thank you for those unbiased reviews.

"But given that Sony isn't even trying to focus on graphically powerful games and is instead focusing simply on games period, who the hell cares what console can output better graphics. We also know that Microsoft will buy parity from 3rd party developers, so it's all moot."

Of course. All those demo's of Killzone: Shadow Fall were not to promote graphics. That tech demo from Quantic Dream was not to showcase the power either, just like what they did on the PS3.

If you don't want parity start supporting the PC. We've already witnessed games being compromised because of how popular consoles are. We've also seen the PS2 dominate and be the lead platform because of it even though the original Xbox was a lot more powerful. But I guess back then it wasn't a problem was it since the PS2 had great games right? No, whatever technical advantages the original Xbox and PC had at the time was irrelevant. Amazing how now it's such a big focus when Microsoft becomes more competitive. All of the sudden all those Sony fans come out of the woodwork and tell everyone how unfair things are. Having timed exclusives on games like GTA didn't matter on the PS2 either but when we've seen it happen on the Xbox 360 all of the sudden Sony fans once again come out of the woodwork.

Is it impossible for Sony loyalists to actually enjoy the Playstation systems without throwing the competition under the bus on a daily basis? Seems to me that is the only way they enjoy Sony platforms is if they can downplay the competition every chance they get. Which is odd seeing as how I was one of the first to buy a PS One system from the Sony store on day one for $299. I've been a fan for years. I didn't know part of the prerequisite for being a fan meant being a fanboy.

DragonKnight1186d ago

@Mike: I don't care if I have to repeat it until the end of my life. Answer the question of why you follow me around, and maybe I'll acknowledge any B.S. you want to talk about. Until then, you are simply wasting time. I suppose that means nothing for someone who has nothing but time to waste.

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AnteCash1187d ago

http://www.ign.com/images/g...

That is the most next-gen looking game he sawon either platform?? woow ....

HammadTheBeast1187d ago

The character models look great, but the environment is very bland.

starchild1187d ago (Edited 1187d ago )

Yeah, definitely not the best. But then again, Infamous Second Son didn't blow me away either:
http://www.ign.com/images/g...

In terms of textures, character models, lighting, shadow resolution and quality and things like that, the two games are fairly similar. Infamous Second Son just has more color, but anybody with an ounce of technical knowledge knows that color palette has zero to do with graphical performance.

sobekflakmonkey1187d ago (Edited 1187d ago )

Infamous: Second Son looks better and its an open world game....but yeah, I think The Division looked the most impressive, but thats just me.

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Destrania1187d ago (Edited 1187d ago )

The Division looks stunning. Can't wait for next gen. For now, back to The Last of Us.

Hercules1891187d ago

It looks much better in motion. If you watch it above 720p you can tell that this game is truly amazing looking, now art style is an opinion but you cant just say that this game looks like its possible on ps3. Look at the smoke and fire effects the reflections in the water, everything about this game looks great. Some of these screens look like they captured them at the wrong time.

itBourne1187d ago

The Division and Infamous were the best looking games, I think Sony made a mistake not showing gameplay for Infamous at their conference because it was freaking awesome.

Ju1186d ago

"Some of these screens look like they captured them at the wrong time."

Yeah, like during game play. LOL.

The camera focuses on the main character. That's where they put all the details and make him look great. But if you actually look into the environments or god forbid into the distance there is nothing there.

Go look for a shot where you can see the landing ships in the background. There is virtually no more detail in in the distance. The rocks become blocks, the water flat, the ships last gen.

If this is an indicator what the XBone can do, than by all means, the PS4 is twice as powerful. We will have some discussions when both release this fall. Some people will be getting a wake-up call.

I agree. The Division took me by surprise. And topped already good looking games. The shear amount of "useless" debris in each scene in this game is quite impressive which makes it very live like. Never seen anything like that before because those things looked like real geometry not just "texture painted".

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uncharted561187d ago

Kinda disagree with you. Witcher 3 and the Division look to be the most next gen games. Infamous Second Son and Ryse are right up there with their incredible facial animations but if you saw the divison it just looked incredible but from what I have gathered from previews The Witcher 3 was the best looking game reporters saw at the show.

extermin8or1187d ago (Edited 1187d ago )

Infamous second son in my opinion looked better than Ryse the environments have way more colour. Plus it's open world, and you have all those fancy power effects going on at one time and that was just the smoke powers they've shown thus far... The division looked amazing though, not seen much of the Witcher 23 but it certainly looked great from what I did see.

starchild1187d ago

The Witcher 3 looks incredible. Which doesn't surprise me considering how insanely good The Witcher 2 looks on PC.

Infamous Second Son looks really good in the cutscenes, but the gameplay graphics don't surprise me. They're colorful, but the textures, lighting, shadows and most of the other graphical elements don't blow me away. Frankly, there are games on my PC that still look better to me.

PFFT1187d ago

Second Son looks good BUT nothing mind blowing. NOW the Witcher 3 looks freaking spectacular.

itBourne1187d ago

The Witcher is an amazing looking game no doubt, even 2 is awesome. All these graphics tho are not what is going to make a game "next gen". Honestly I am more excited for games in other regards. Look at what ND has done with story telling and attempted to do with AI. Those are the things I want to see with next gen, or imagine if full environmental destruction was a default across all games.

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MariaHelFutura1187d ago

The whole story, tells the whole story.

clearelite1186d ago

It's clear that they will just spew whatever nonsense they have to and many people will just lap it up.

AngelicIceDiamond1187d ago

Its funny how the first time he says specs are "meaningless" at the same time MS boost the specs of the X1.

sashimi1187d ago

infinite powah of the cloud! but specs is meaningless -_- and so is the clouds

tubers1187d ago

The Division IMO, looked the best.

Loved the cutscenes on MGS 5 tho.

Tyre1187d ago (Edited 1187d ago )

Nice try MS, keep lying & spindoctoring again, but the truth is you're under-delivering on purpose and asking more money for cheaper tech. Developers and a lot of people call your bluff, Jonathan Blow says your lying about your cloud claims => http://www.escapistmagazine...

mwjw6961187d ago

Jonathon Blow is a hack that can't do anything good, only bitch about MS. That idiot has no idea what he is talking about.

If you make about half way down the wiki you will see MS has 8 server farms up, and building more in ireland multiple farms inside each area. With 1800-2500 servers per farm. FACTS!

As of July 2010, Microsoft had completed 6,000 installations of Azure in Ireland. Executives at Microsoft hoped that this figure would rise to 100,000 installations by 2011. That was 3 years ago.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

PS: Ive played a better version of his new game already its called MYST!

airgangstarr1187d ago (Edited 1187d ago )

when ur playin on laggy servers on ps4 everyone else will be on dedicated servers on xbox 1 its a big advantage one thing sony cant compete with is xbox live

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4me21187d ago

@mwjw696

I don't think anybody disputes existence or size of MS CLoud infrastructure. The Azure target customers are corporations, services for Office365 .......
Azure needs to make money, compete with Google and Intel Cloud services. Just because MS has servers it doesn't mean they assign them exclusively to XBOX division.

Rhythmattic1187d ago (Edited 1187d ago )

If people think many of "teh Cloudz" servers wont also be data mining...

Well, ill leave it there.

horndog1187d ago

Well if jonathan blow says so than its true I swear. Its not like mr.blow has any bad feelings towards MS. None at all.

Tyre1186d ago (Edited 1186d ago )

I knew you guys would come up with the Blow is biased & but Microsoft has servers! Jonathan is knows more about MS & hardware than we do. Even if the cloud will help edge out the hardware disadvantage in Microsoft's mind (Do u want to wait a couple of years?), it still is an acknowledgement that the XB1 is technically less than the PS4. Sony will use the cloud too in the future and has a technically more advanced terminal (PS4) to do so. PS4 will just as well take advantage of cloud 'in the future' the difference remains....you can't change the hardware. One thing is certain: the first couple of years PS4 will have the better of the two no matter what Microsoft says. Oh did i already tell you it is cheaper? Why do some people start repeating the BS about 'future' cloud? Beats me, since both will use it for a lot of stuff, including graphics.

gamer20131186d ago (Edited 1186d ago )

Jonathan Blow develops games out of his basement for god sake! Nobody with half a brain cell cares what this butt hurt noob has to say about MS and the Azure cloud.

http://www.respawn.com/news...

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Ausbo1187d ago

Mgs 5 looked amazing. But i think the witcher and the division looked slightly better. Graphics-wise

TheOneWhoIsTornApart1187d ago

Every single trailer and shred of footage we have seen up to now has been current gen. It has been 100% confirmed by Konami and Kojima. We havent even seen the next gen versions of the game yet. Kojima said the main focus has been on current gen for now but later we will have the next gen versions. That makes everything we have seen way more impressive.

starchild1187d ago

The PS4 is more powerful than the Xbox One. There are no two ways about it.

That said, all the best looking games at E3 were multiplats like Battlefield 4, The Division, The Witcher 3 and MGS5.

PFFT1187d ago

Of course since you worked on both systems therefore you already know both systems official specs.

D-riders1187d ago

yeah I agree break down the system like Cerny and prove it. we are not dumb hell a lot of us are devs, so stop the bs MS

TronEOL1187d ago (Edited 1187d ago )

Wasn't Ryse playing on a PC with an Nvidia Titan?

I could have sworn someone posted a photo from E3 of a "XboxOne" broken down and on a Windows 7 desktop screen, with the guy opening up the cupboard holding the PC, PC open and a clear view of a GTX Titan.

And if that really is the case, then Ryse wasn't even running on an AMD card, let alone a system equal to the X1's specs.

:EDIT: added link and image
http://www.neogaf.com/forum...

KillrateOmega1187d ago (Edited 1187d ago )

You'd think that they would at least use an AMD card, but apparently not...

DJMarty1187d ago

@TronEOL - Exactly, more MS smoke & mirrors bullsh#t.

gamer20131186d ago

"I do want to remind people – this interview was done six weeks ago, before E3. It’s not like we just decided to talk about it. So it wasn't that I just decided to call up OXM and give the my opinion :)

I would like to pose this question to the audience. There are several months until the consoles launch, and any student of the industry will remember, specs change.

Given the rumored specs for both systems, can anyone conceive of a circumstance or decision one platform holder could make, where despite the theoretical performance benchmarks of the components, the box that appears “weaker” could actually be more powerful?

I believe the debate on this could give some light to why we don’t want to engage in a specification debate until both boxes are final and shipping." - Albert Penello Microsoft' product planning manager.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum...

malokevi1186d ago

Yeah, totally. The Xbox One probably isn't even real! They are just putting all these games on display to FOOL you into THINKING they are developing a new console! That makes sense!!

BWAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAA!!!!! (evil CEO laughing with cronies)

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Simon_Brezhnev1187d ago

To be honest 3rd party games looked the best for next gen so far. I'll take Witcher 3 over MGS5 anyday.

B-radical1187d ago

The division destroyed MGS5 in graphics aha But i think he meant ryse was the best looking exclusive

CrimsonSquall1186d ago

Except, it wasn't. Killzone Shadowfall looked better than Ryse. But in all reality we should wait a few more months to judge these games graphically because the full development kits haven't even been given out yet on either platform.

NextGen24Gamer1187d ago

I said before E3 that MS would drop a bombshell! It never was announced but they are now hinting at it! I will say this, sony fans who Scream & Yell about Stats on paper are in for a huge surprise when the consoles ship! LOL... Yes the Xbox One is 100 more than the ps4. But, it's more than worth it when you find out what you are getting!

Note that when MS announced their specs...they were very vague.

For a REASON!!!! LOL

DoesUs1187d ago

You really don't know how this works do you?! Just like GreenP, clueless with your head stuck up MS backside. Keep cashing the cheques.

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ALLWRONG1187d ago

As far as exclusives are concerned the Xbox One's games outshine PS (((so far)))