Just imagine, you've had an Xbox 360 since launch and built up an impressive games collection with game saves and built up an impressive amount of Gamerscore over the years. Then you go and lose it all...
it got that other guys 360 fixed. So maybe it can help this guys account.
at least he had fun while playing his 360
The guy is an idiot. He is complaining that his game saves are gone from his account but the truth is they are never on your profile - game saves are local on you HDD or mem.card. This kid needs to quit his whining and admit that he Eucked up and nobody else.
perhaps he should try achieving something else in life....
The customer service rep knows he can just reinstat the account, what is the big deal he is going to give you new info and pay another 50 bucks so I dont see why they cant just re-instate the account.
If you don't pay for Xbox Live gold membership it automatically goes to SILVER meaning you do NOT lose anything only the ability to play online. If your card details expire that means Microsoft cannot take them money for you to go to a GOLD account.
You're account ONLY gets cancelled completely if you tell Microsoft you want the account closed.
this is n4g - they'll just make stuff up for anti-MSFT FUD.
@2.1 Oh sure, let's just ignore the fact that N4G didn't create this. Totally360 did, which is an excellent name for an Anti-MS site. Edit: But, it sounds like this guy did ask them to close his account, and then realized what he did, so he makes it sound like it's MS's fault.
Yeah, this is a load of bullshite.
These SCUM-SUCKING BUFFOONS shall soon feel the wrath of King Kaz and Emperor Kutaragi! They simply can't do ANYTHING right! MWAH-HA-HA-HA!!!
That was a Perfect comment King Kaz;)
It seems that the one thing you two and all of the N4G Sony Fanboys can do right is suck Sony's ballz. That is to be expected of the real Sony Executives since they get paid to do it. The rest of you are just pathetic.
Please don't choke and remember to wipe up when you are done.
Yikes Iike a Bad Dream i think Not. @Caveman When u have time to shave your Back i think Ballmer is in need of a Shaving too,and dont forget your Mom she really Harry.... and please oh please when u giving Bill his dally rim dont forget to rinse.
I see you managed to remove Sony's jizz from your eyes before you replied. Did it stain your shirt?
Since we are talking about moms now, I'll be sure to tell yours thanks for shaving my ballz. I have a huge sack and it took her a while. I shot some in her mouth too, just my way of saying thanks for years of service. Damn, I think she tried to tell you hello in mid swallow. My bad, I'll teach her not to talk with her mouth full.
@Kaz Hirai & Pain I agree with ukilnme. What are you, six years old? All you dumbasses do is bash Xbox articles. Does that make you feel closer to your balls dropping? Speaking of balls, why can't your moms stop sucking mine? It's getting annoying. Seriously, go spank yourselves to Motorstorm.
Spoken like a True Xbox Kid. You Prove full hardy Why American Education Fails Horribly. And @dem0n , no more like 7 and a bit.
Dude thinks for some reason ukilnme is the geico caveman.he even address him as such.....your used too idiots acting like ken kutagi and charachters like darksniper.... pain...not everyone has shtick..not everyone hides behind someone else.
i didnt know i was being charged for gold membership and then i try to go on live to download a demo and it wont let me. my account had been suspended but they told me it wasnt set to silver and i didnt stop the transaction(which hasnt been paid cause i have no credit card) in time i was being sent to COLLECTIONS in 90 days! the indian pieces of sheeit that were talking to me(a cunt if you were wondering, a dirty indian cunt!) can die of malaria.
Only a [email protected]
UKILNME just shut up man u sound like a retard that can't comprehend their SARCASM... these aren't serious people... its PS3 fans poking retarded XBOTS like you(that actually would take it serisou because the Xbox 360 is perform like such absolute POO POO you get angry when u read it HAHAHAHAHHAHA) in the face HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA
It's so funny. Keep it goin KAZ!!! Hail the almighty S L A Y S T A Y T I O N HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHHAHA HAHA Silly BOTS.
Give me a break. This is N4G. What is to be taken seriously here? A bunch of internet tough guys talking trash. I'm just joining in on the fun. As I said before, it's [email protected]
So funny it hurts to think i care what a bot like u thinks lololol But i will take satisfaction that i got under your lil xbot skin and only thing a kid like u can do is Insult like a TRUE xbox fan. Sad and Funny all in One thanks
I wish I had this kids' problems
Nobody over the age of 10 gives a fck about Gamerscore.
Is that why Sony is cloning it?
seriously..this guy is a joke.. its like he didnt enjoy 3 years of gaming..the kid needs to stop crying and do what hes asked the next time
Yeah...thought so. Sit down and shutup.
What makes you think this guy is a sonyboy? How do you know that this guy doesn't have a 360 himself? Just because he does not care about GS does not make him an anti-MS fanboy.I personally don't get whats the big deal with GS,I mean it's just a Number next to your Name right? So what's the big deal?
Bout time you have no more bubbles...
matchgrade - I think he was more upset about the game saves.. not being able to transfer them..
That does suck. I'd be pissed if i lost my Oblivion saves...
As long as your Silver account is active, it doesn't get cancelled. You do not need to pay a nickel for a Silver account and you can still use it to download new content from Marketplace. The author of this "story" claims to have used his account to send messages to his friends which means it was still active. All he needed to do was to buy a subscription card with cash at his local gamestore to reactivate his Silver account and make it Gold again.
It wasn't the gamerscore really, essentially yes it was slightly annoying to go from 10K, however starting the games I've played all over again is the worst part. I guess I get some re-playability value however! With regards to the downgrade to Silver, this is what I requested Microsoft to do, however they said as it has been nearly 12 months since the account was last 'used', although the login both on the dashboard of which would then throw me off and the fact I can access my data on Xbox.com to me signifies the account is still active, but apparently not. I couldn't purchase another subscription, I updated the card details and wasn't able to do anything, under the billing on Microsoft Services it says 'Cancelled' next to my subscription and also previous content downloads when I was using the Xbox.
You can keep it forever as a Silver account as long as it is seen on the network on a regular basis. If you are unplugged from the network for a long time on a silver account, it will eventually cancel and the tag gets recycled. To prevent this, all you had to do was sign into the account while the Xbox 360 was online periodically. There is no way for the system to know you want to keep the account if you are never seen again.
You dont even need a console for a LIVE Account. You can keep a silver account for free without ever having bought a Console yourself.
Just goto live.com and sign up for one, and log into it on occassion to keep it from getting recycled.
Can we transfer game saves on memory card or the way we do when we swap the HDD I mean your gamertag will not be able you to take you online but you can get the save then which will be transfered to your new account. So you might get your save if not the gamerscore. Also there is a technique in which you can directly connect your 360 to PC and transfer any data as you wish but your 360 warranty will be voided since you have to open it and its a hack developed by moders and not MS.
thats to bad man, sorry
Well now you have something to do for 3 more years, but I thought the account reverts to silver, mine did twice.
My account got suspended once because the debit card was out of money. It didn't revert to silver, it became suspended. I couldn't update my information from the dashboard so I looked around the Xbox forums and found the link to the site where you can change your card info. It was really annoying and I don't see why they can't allow you to change it from the dashboard.
he violated some billing terms or something “Your account is cancelled” he explained. “Yes I understand that, I’ve not been a subscriber for about a year as I’ve been at University, but wish to reinstate my account and have a Silver membership” I replied. “Your account is cancelled sir, do you not understand?” he muttered again. “Yes I do, but I want you to re-activate it”. It was then he dealt me a devastating blow, I wasn’t allowed to have my account back. “But why?” I asked. “You have a violation of billing” he responded. Apparently due to my credit card expiring I had violated the terms and conditions of Xbox Live. “You haven’t phoned us for a year and thus your account is cancelled”. I went on to explain I had accessed my account on Xbox.com for the last year and was able to message and receive messages from friends as well as add gamer tags and check achievements. “Yes your account is on the system but is cancelled” he hastily said.
...did you post a "comment", comprised ENTIRELY of a quote from the article???
kaz and bill gates are like over the top sarcastic
psn is free and they wont cancel it on ya....
I use both, love my PS3 and 360 ... however, to be very honest XBL > PSN in MANY ways.
Maybe HOME will change my mind, but till then, XBL is my online choice any day over PSN
Sorry, but that is how it is. And most gamers who are not bias to one camp and have used both, will tell you the same thing.
aside from cross game messaging/invites, what are the MANY other ways Live is better than PSN in terms of online play?
Have a look at this site. They do a pretty good job of explaining why I prefer XBL over PSN
NOW, don't get all bent out of shape. I am not saying PSN sucks or anything like that. I am just saying, that as a user of BOTH, I prefer XBL a good bit more and have no issue paying the $50 for 13 months of use (which works out to be $3.84 per month). I am also NOT a fanboy. I am a proud owner of a 360 and PS3. Each I like more or less for different reasons. I do not share my gamer names for either console on this site for the simple reason of some of the folks that visit this site and childish antics they perform. Fell free to click on my name to see what systems I have (or have had). I have been playing games since back to the Vic20 and my first console being the Atari 2600 (still have it :-} )
In particular this area:
Lets now take a look at the community, because thats what online is really all about. With Xbox Live, talking to your friends, cross-game inviting them, voice chatting them, video chatting them, and instant messaging them is all at the click of a button (the (X) button).
As much as you may want to down-play this functionality, it us HUGE and become something you can't do without once you are use to it. Needed to exit to get at freinds and visa versa SUCKS in reagards to function.
Notice the article also adds a few comments about lag which I have NEVER experienced. Also, many 360 games are allowing larger player numbers with each new game (COD 4 as one example).The article also make mention of many items that the PSN will offer in the "FUTURE" but not currently. Also keep in mind with XBL it is much more friends to pay with folks from ALL OVER THE WORLD, rather than preference to close geographical areas. The fact I could not get a into a Motorstorm online game for a good 3 nights trying, I was not to happy about that. Lucky, that is now sorted but still not as nice and experience I have had on XBL with ther racers.
As I said orignally, I can only judge by what is availabe and functional TODAY (not waiting beyond). As I also said, once HOME comes along, perhaps I will change my mind. But till then I stick to my guns and say ...
XBL > PSN
I'm not getting bent out of shape, i just asked you a simple question which I already knew the answer to.
As far as downplaying the features, PSN also does voice chat, video chat with games that support it and text chat. It's just not cross game. I play on live as well as on PSN, and i don't really need a website to tell me what features i actually use when playing my games.
I just find out rather ignorant when people spew out false information about how X service is SO MUCH better than Z. the reality is Live offers a few extra features which make it easier to communicate between gamers, that doesn't not make it WAY better.
By the way, I can easily do without it because it was never that important to me to begin with. I want people to leave me alone when i'm playing my games, if i really want to talk about random stuff with one of my friends, i'll use the phone to call them or text them, i don't need my video game service to do that for me.
I was not saying you WERE getting bend out of shape, I just state that since MANY on here WILL get bent out of shape for my comment.
The best way to see it is "To Each There Own" .. toe-mate-o or toe-mat-o. Really does not matter
If the differences I see as MUST HAVES are not important to you, than this is a mute point for you. But for me, the cost of XBL per year (cost is what started this item) it a small price to pay for the extra items "I" must have from my online service. The "Few Extra Features" you are talking about to many are pretty important extras. Not small take or leaves for most of use who have/do used them a good bit.
If you already knew the answers, than I guess the question you asked was not really needed than really !! Not sure why you asked if that is the case.
When I want to be left alone, I set my status to show as OFFLINE .. ;-)
If you don't care to play online or with other people and just want to play alone. Then why would you care which one is better, since you said you don't want to be bothered by other players. Just seems pointless to even comment on it.
Xbox LIVE is free and they wont cancel it on ya if you use it at least once a year. You can login via a PC.
Can a non PS3 owner have a free PSN account? How long can you -not- use it before it is recycled..?
With better functionality and reliability, Microsoft's service just keeps popping up with more and more problems, problems that technically shouldn't even exist. Paying $50 annually for the service as a whole is still a lot, but makes a little more sense. But paying that much strictly for online play while everything else is free, well...just seems idiotic. And Sheng Long's got it right. Xbox Live has a few nifty features that PSN doesn't have, but that definitely doesn't make it a better service. The two or three weeks of crashing that Xbox Live suffered from during the holiday season boosted PSN subscriptions, and gamers (for the most part) have very little brand loyalty. My bro only ever played Call of Duty on Xbox Live, but once he tried it on my PS3 and got the same experience the question popped up "Why am I paying for Live again?"
Hey hows the Rainbow Six vegas 2 multiplayer over PSN going - have they figure it out why it's crapping out yet ??
PSN is not free you pay for it when you have to buy extra long cables to charge your controllers or a chargestation or when you have to buy a cable to hook it up to your HDtv or for people that pay 40 bucks for a demo of a racing game. Some of that goes towards PSN i am sure.
the things that make online gaming less fun are the things that you didnt mention. The things that are better on xbl than psn are the ability to report twats even if the process is flawed its still there and ingame invites all games. The things that I feel are better on psn are the dedicated servers on 1st party games (Ive seen lag on xbl and psn on gears and halo) But sony's 1st party games have dedicated servers and you'll know what im talking about if you've ever played warhark, resistance or even gt5p amongst overs. So ill agree that there are more plusses on the xbl camp to psn but there are some things that are better on psn than xbl. Forget msn as messaging will do and I can use my normal pc keyboard if I wanna type and psn has voice and conference calls and im sure xbl doesn't have video conference calls. Plus its free. Its not a slaughter by any means.
First sheng you are right, if your anti-social PSN is better than LIVE. the wood: there is an adaptor available to facilitate the use of k&m on 360 and you can do video chat on LIVE. I'm not sure about video conferencing though.
I'm not antisocial guys. LOL, i'm just saying i don't really need to be talking to my friends while i'm playing half-life and they're playing gears. Unless i'm playing a game with you, just let me relax and let me play my game in peace. If there's something i need to tell you, i'll just pick up the phone and call you.
if you need to tell me something, send me a msg and i'll read it when i get to it, if it's important, call me. although chances are if it were truly important you wouldn't be playing videogames at that time.
in-game comunication is an important part of online gaming, cross-game is more of a luxury (which we pay $50.00/year for)
BUT, getting game invites without leaving games is a feature I would pay for on its own.
I could also just pick up the phone and call some of my XBL friends, but the long distance charge from Canada to the UK is a bit expensive. I enjoy a chat while I play COD4 and my chum in the UK plays something else.
I hate being in the middle of UT3, get a message from a friend, exit the game to see what the message is, only to find out my bud want to see if I want to play UT3. It pains me that I have to exit out a game just to read a message. With the power of the PS3, this functionality should be incorporated.
And to give a quick blurb outside of online play and why I prefer XBL, I really do much rather marketplace in comparison to the almost WebPage style interface of the PSN store. Also, downloading content from PSN for some reason is much slower than on my 360 yet both are set-up the same on my router in regards to restriction (or lack there of). And last, when I download a Demo or update from XBL, it not only downloads quick, but once download is complete .. BAM .. it is ready to use. On PSN I hate the two step of (1)Download and then (2) install. Just not very well thought out in my eyes. And for those reading and do not know ... the services I have descriped (all with the exception of actuall ONLINE PLAY) as in downloading demos, movies, XBLA games, etc, etc ... that is all available to not only Gold members, but also Silver ......... and Silver is "FREE"
As I said, I do note HATE PSN by any means, but I for sure prefer XBL and have no issue paying the small price of $50 for 13 months. I spend more on Coffee in a week than I do on XBL for the month. "MAYBE" home will change my mind, but for now XBL is my poison of choice for online play and function of my consoles.
PERSONAL preference. Now some people will feel the extras and ease of use that XBL is worth paying the $3.84. (BTW again 12months + 1 free month pre-paid cards = $50 / 13 months = $3.84 a month) Some other people will feel that it's not worth it. And then some fanboys will have a knee jerk reaction and just spew [email protected] Look at it this way. Some people feel it's worth it to pay $4.00 for a Starbucks coffee. Some people are happy making their own coffee at home before they go to work. To each their own.
I really never understood why so many people complain about the 4 dollars or so a month to play on XBL. Forget if its better then the psn or not. XBL is what all my friends use paying 4 dollars to play with them online a few hours a week is more then worth it to me. If my friend all had ps3 and were on psn then I'd be playing on that.
maybe i should go buy myself a $200 pair of jeans, after all by you guys' logic it would only cost me $16/month if i pay it off in 1 year. I spend more than that at the movies.
Microsoft doesn't take out $4 month from my card, they take out $50.00 so you guys are only trying to make it seem more affordable by breaking it down monthly. If you want to pay monthly it's going to cost you a hell of a lot more than $4/month. it's actually $8/month.
It's like those infomercials trying to sell you the magic spoon for 4 easy payments of $14.99, it doesn't sound to bad if you break down the payments, then you realize you actually paid $60.00 for a damn spoon.
Come on dude !!
That last Jean comment was so off the mark it is not even funny. And the info-mercial remark is rediculous. The point of the month cost is to do a simple comparision of the BIG COST folks complain about is silly. That is the point of the breakdown (and I am sure you understand that and the analogy behind it).
Forget the month cost then, $50 for 13 months is A JOKE !!
I spend more than that on ONE game. The point about folks (myself included) looking at if from a month cost is so simply put to rest the banter about XBL being EXPENSIVE ... IT ISN'T !!
If anyone thinks that $50 for 13 months is to much money, they maybe they should not even have a PS3 or 360 since as I stated ... ONE GAME will run you more than that.
You asked the question, it has been answered in many ways and you do not want to here it.
Let's move on (especially since I am out of bubbles for this topic LOL )
It's not off the mark, it makes sense because when i buy something and pay in full i don't say "it's ok because if i break it down, it only costs me XX/month" all the people complaining about GT5:P price of $40.00, by you guys' logic the cost should never be an issue if you play the game until GT5 comes out, prologue would have only cost you 3.33/month or less. why were people complaining about the price again? i remember seein a huge thread about it, why the double standard?
the fact is GT5:P is $40.00 , Xbox live is $50.00. i asked the question because you said live was way better, you didn't state it was better for you so i assume you meant it as a fact, it applies to everyone. It obviously doesn't. I'll ask you again, I just purchased Burnout paradise or let's say army of two, and i just want to put the game in and play with someone, even some of my friends, are you telling me people playing on live are going to have a better experience playing the games?
By the way, i never said it was too much $$ all i simply said was the end experience is the same 95% of the time, i don't buy into the whole "live is way better than psn". no one will argue live is better because for some things it is, but like others have said, it's not a landslide by any means. in fact it's much closer than the price disparity would lead people to believe.
btw, i agree. time to move on, we obviously have a difference of opinions. I respect yours actually, because you have true and valid points even though i may not agree with them :)
Ok sheng long, you win. Xbox Live is a ripoff. $50 is way to steep for gamers with $300 to $600 systems that pay $60 bucks for games. Please forgive those of us that feel it is worth every penny.
Edit: I'm moving on now too.
I concur. Live is far superior to PSN. What's $50? I wipe my @ss with $50 dollars.
...this is completely bogus. Not only is the guy flat out lying, but he's also a moron. You DO NOT "need" a credit card, to pay for LIVE...it just makes it simpler. You can use a bank debit or check card, or even an over-the-counter rechargeable VISA/MC from Wal-Mart or a gas station for your required info.
Where the hell does he say you "need" a credit card? He says he used the CC option when he signed up for his XBL subscription - and later the card he used to sign up for expired and lead to him "violating" some part of his XBL agreement because he didn't update his CC info or cancel in time which lead to his account being permanently disabled. Damn, the way you're biting everyone's heads off trying desperately to defend Microsoft is lolerific.
"Damn, the way you're biting everyone's heads off trying desperately to defend Microsoft is lolerific."
I gues that is the flip side of you always bashing MS and the 360.
Everything you do on your live account is linked through MS. If your account gets deleted, hacked, ban or what not everything go's with it. Why should people need to deal with this if they don't want to?
If my account is deleted the prograss of a local game shouldn't be linked to system that blocks me from accessing it. If something screws up like my console is ban by a glitch, breaks down or whatever MS should try to resolve these problems.
It's already known that DRM issues are being fixed. This is relatively the same thing and involves DRM. The DRM is in place prevent people from cheating on gamer scores. These scores should be optional. If I want to play casually fine but, when it causes DRM I don't want it. So what if their stored on your system. If your games are stored locally some have DRM restricting them to your LIVE account.
As a company MS should do everything in their power to fix things otherwise intelligent people will move to other consoles. It's just good business sense to help a fan out.
Seriously, if you want to help MS you should defend the customers here because MS is being unreasonable. Even if it's his fault as a customer his request isn't unreasonable. Customers shouldn't be given a run around over a tiny infractions especially, if their willing to negotiate a resolution that's within reason.
I wonder why your defending MS here. Clearly there is some red tape that needs to be cut. Just calling him a lier, Moron or Idiot does nothing to prove your point. Post some evidence because you obviously know more then he does about "his" situation. The fact that it's news validates it more. Small time average Joes just can't slander a company like MS without something to back them up.
No but the way I paid for Xbox Live down the years since 2002 was via Credit Card, the only method at the time. You can purchase a subscription in a store here in the UK or use Mastercard/Visa/American Express online.