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Submitted by doctorstrange 450d ago | news

PS4 Has No Power Brick, Size is “Very Close to the 2nd Gen PS3, and PS4 is Slimmer”, Says Shuhei

"Quick to remind everyone that it doesn't have one, Shuhei Yoshida, President of Sony Worldwide Studios, said, "The power is inside, so no brick outside."" - PSLS (PS4, Shuhei Yoshida)

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doctorstrange  +   450d ago
It really does look like a 2nd gen console, how did they manage to keep it so sleek?!
TrendyGamers  +   450d ago | Funny
Through the power of Sony.
abzdine  +   450d ago
Damn! they manage to make it so small from the first version!!
so maybe PS4 slim will be as slim as PStwo? I am amazed, really!
gaffyh  +   450d ago | Well said
Smaller and more powerful than the Xbox One, and no power brick. Just shows you the level of Sony as a hardware company compared to MS.
Cirehpsa  +   450d ago
A slim ps4 as slim as a ps2 would be great, but i imagine it's pretty jam packed as it is currently.
Need4Game  +   450d ago
Made Xbox One look more like a Brick.
Sitdown  +   450d ago | Well said
How come some of you can't just enjoy the ps4 on its on merit, instead of always having to bring up the xbox one. It's like you are obsessed with the xbox one, and then wonder while the trolls show up. The PS4 is nice. Period.
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silenius  +   450d ago
Mr Cerny...
once again... thank you. :)
mistertwoturbo  +   450d ago | Funny
People need to stop insulting a Brick by calling it an Xbox One.

I'll tell you, an Xbox One isn't going to be used to build houses with.
wastedcells  +   450d ago
Sony makes all kinds of great products and this really helps make playstation special.
CryofSilence  +   450d ago
That's really impressive how they kept that small form factor with an internal power source.

I would liken the Xbox One to a VCR more than I would a brick.
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alien626  +   449d ago
The on,y reason m$ when with a big system was for the future they could release smaller versions of the system. That somehow brings more money. Look at Sony they done it many times. Sony is starting small and slick and now I can't imagine how smaller could the ps4 could get. M$ made big and I bet a lot of space in it
GribbleGrunger  +   449d ago
The design is familiar but modern:

http://img.photobucket.com/...

Now give me a variation on the PS2 boot up sound and I'll die a happy man.
thereapersson  +   449d ago
Mrtwoturbo
But they might be used to burn one down... ;-)

#trolling
The_Con-Sept  +   449d ago
I'd like to see the PS4 get smaller... But what would it look like?
Groo  +   449d ago
and by the Power of Greyskull
gaffyh  +   449d ago
@Sitdownn - "It's like you are obsessed with the xbox one, and then wonder while the trolls show up."

You're right, because you showed up.

But to answer your question, both consoles are part of a new generation, and a launching at around the same time, so it's natural that there will be comparisons. The same thing happened with the PS3 and 360, and the Xbox and PS2, so don't see what is so bad about it.

If you're sad that PS4 is coming off as better than the Xbone, then that's your problem, and no one else's. I'm not saying you're wrong to want to purchase an Xbone, in fact I am considering getting one late next year, but early PS3 owners got the same stick from fanboys, and there was MORE of a reason to own a PS3 at that time i.e. cheapest blu-ray player on the market, and Sony's proven track record when it comes to games.
Majin-vegeta  +   450d ago
Japanese are very crafty :P.
KillrateOmega  +   450d ago | Funny
Sneaky, sneaky...

http://i.qkme.me/3jb6.jpg
karl  +   449d ago
that reminded me of the south park city sushi episode

"kinda like pearl harbor.... that was sneaky too"
Qrphe  +   450d ago
Good engineering, graphical power and internal power supply all in that compact box is a great feat.
majiebeast  +   450d ago
THE POWER ZEH CLOWDS! No wait thats the other company good engineering and design i reckon.
clearelite  +   449d ago
"TeH power of public relations gimmicks!"...

Sony is bringing us quality products as usual while others depen mainly on advertising.
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I_am_Batman  +   450d ago
That's what I was asking myself since the E3 conference. Maybe someone at Sony invented the shrink ray.
Godmars290  +   450d ago
They had several years of development time. Were likely thinking about it since the PS3 suffered all of it's backlash.
Foolsjoker  +   450d ago
I think Mark Cerny is a wizard, how else would they fit it all in that tiny box?
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JoGam  +   450d ago
Im my Italian voice.... "Its in there". ;-)
Narutone66  +   450d ago
Must be related to Harry Potter.
RBdrift  +   450d ago
Well,don't think Cerny had a say in design, because he explained that he didn't want to see the the PS4 design tell E3.
elhebbo16  +   449d ago
dont give cerny ALL the credit, I'm sure there was some hardworking japanese dude behind it as well.
Cernunnos  +   450d ago
the CPU is clocked a lot lower than on the PS3, so that helps a lot with heat aswell. Coupled with a smaller die size.
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SniperControl  +   450d ago
Ok, one thing I dont get, the PS4 is more powerful and has an internal PSU. On the other hand the X1 is less powerful, the size of a 80's betamax player with an external PSU.
What the hell is in side the X1?
Gardenia  +   450d ago | Funny
In every Xbox One is a Microsoft employee who is there to collect your money every time you turn on the system
I_am_Batman  +   450d ago
Rocket science-level stuff.
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sic_chops  +   450d ago
Haha... A big empty space with vents on half of the top. Might as well just cut a hole in the top. Sure it would stay cool then.
Narutone66  +   450d ago
MS got burned with the RROD fiasco, so they anticipated and wanted to prevent that from happening again.
husomc  +   450d ago
a water cooler
Vip3r  +   450d ago
It needs all that space for the clouds. I mean, are you a developer and have you SEEN titanfall?
LeRise  +   449d ago
You can see it by yourself: http://i.imgur.com/Ibb0e6j....

Empty space here we go!
I'd mention another thing: PS4 has 8 cores @ 2 GHz, XBONE has 8 cores @ 1.6 GHz, still larger.
Persistantthug  +   449d ago
A Cable box.
Kennytaur  +   449d ago
Clouds.
Groo  +   449d ago
clearelite  +   449d ago
Mostly shredded newspaper/packing foam and several liters of mountain dew.
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jeffgoldwin  +   450d ago
Small with no power brick? That is amazing. However, it is ugly as sin as far as the design shape.
T2  +   450d ago
I don't really see how its ugly, its just a black box and thank god it's slim... looks a bit like a shape of some kind at least.

Ugly would be like a gamecube, or a sphere that just rolled off your stand. it should be slim and level, and fit within your mounting space. black matches most other electronics, safe color - stick a bunch of stickers on it if you want color...

Not sure what would have been better? The odd contour here and there or vent or bump means nothing....
R6ex  +   450d ago
I love the heavily-ventilated rear view of the PS4.

So sleek!
elhebbo16  +   449d ago
I rather have a cool rhombus shape than an typical design.
ApolloTheBoss  +   450d ago
Here's a size comparison. :)

Related image(s)
GenericNameHere  +   449d ago
I'm blind!!. Where do you insert the disc??!! All I see are 2 USB ports. Is the disc tray somewhere between the two covers? The middle part's so dark, I can barely see anything.

Btw, no more little PS logo? :'(
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LeRise  +   449d ago
GenericNameHere, here you go, Hi-res photos of PS4.
http://www.flickr.com/photo...
elhebbo16  +   449d ago
@genereic we haven't had classic PS logos since the PS3 slim unfortunately.
karl  +   449d ago
thx for the hr photos.. the new dualshock looks impressive..

never seen the back till this pictures..

the texture looks really comfortable... and it has many interesting details..

im sure it will fit really well in my hands
LocutusEstBorg  +   449d ago
There are 15" laptops with 10x the power of the PS4. It's not a big deal.
Hicken  +   449d ago
No there aren't. Especially not for the same price.
Persistantthug  +   449d ago
@KurianOfBorg.....Maybe you're not aware, but the GPU inside the PS4 is a modifed 7970M
A Radeon HD 7970M is the highest end Mobile (laptop) GPU that AMD has available.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...
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JoeReno  +   449d ago
Borg must be somewhere out of left field, like your comment.
-1 off topic
elhebbo16  +   449d ago
1) no there isn't.
2) even if there was, it would cost 2 to 3 times more than a PS4.
3) developers optimize there games to the fullest on console so even if the Laptop is technically stronger you could still get the same or even better visual fidelity.
jeffgoldwin  +   449d ago
1.) Optmization wont be as huge of a difference for next gen compared with pc counterparts, since both consoles are using the same architecture as pc (x86).
2.) Laptop parts are a good amount slower than desktop versions (due do heat/power issues).
3.) Overall, cheaper initial price of consoles, soon catches up to paid online and more expensive games (but that's kind of subjective because you can find sales and bargain bins).
4.) All gamers will benefit from next gen (well unless you cant afford it).
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ziggurcat  +   449d ago
i'm curious to see what the slim version of this system is going to look like...
ramiuk1  +   449d ago
the xbone power brick will b bigger than ps lol.
i jsut hope they have good cooling in it and we dont have heat issues
jeffgoldwin  +   449d ago
or yylod or firmware bricking
HugoDrax  +   449d ago
Funny you say that, because the XB1 doesn't have a power brick. So now you sound like a fanboy with that comment.
ramiuk1  +   446d ago
@AuricGoldfinger
it dont need a power brick though really,look at the size of it,
the reason it does all the tv stuff is because its so big u cant fit anything else on tv stand with it.

by the way i had a 360 since launch(well 5 due to rrod)and i have a ps3 for a few months so i assure you i love my 360,just ps4 gone gamers way and not entertainment.
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CaptinzLee  +   449d ago
Magic .....!!!!
jon1234  +   449d ago
it was created by god to see who would be the best to command his forces!
SDS Gamerfiend  +   449d ago
Sony has really impressed me with the PS4! Feels good to be appreciated as a true hard core gamer!
paradigmfellow  +   449d ago
Science!
Relientk77  +   450d ago
The consoles design, is just flawless

it looks like an advanced PS2
Thefreeman012  +   450d ago
Disagree with me if you will but i just find that the PS4 looks cheap to me...i honestly think both consoles look quite dull
orakle44  +   450d ago
I dont think either look cheap, but they do both look dull to me as well, but i do prefer the ps4.
riseer23  +   450d ago
I will kindly disagree with you.I love the Ps4 design as i stated before.It reminds me of the fat Ps2.I think the Xboxone looks something like the current 360 and a cable box.I won't trash on it tho,the only thing that matters to me fewer fail rates.I am buying a Ps4 tho,i skipped the 360 and most likely miss out on One.
elhebbo16  +   449d ago
please explain, I would like to here why.
T2  +   449d ago
No it looks like a piece of electronics hardware... You dont just go making a random, obtuse shape that one person likes , you make a generic shape that appeals to as many people as possible.... Man ppl here have no business sense
TheOneWithTheWolf  +   450d ago
The first thing that came to my mind at the reveal was that design-wise it borrows a lot from the recent Sony XPERIA line. Which in my book is brilliant, those phones are SEXY!
KillrateOmega  +   450d ago
More powerful, smaller, and no power brick. It also harkens to the appearance of the PS2 and you don't need me to tell you just how successful THAT console was.

You gotta love Sony's hardware expertise :)
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ftwrthtx  +   450d ago
Looks a lot like the black Wii in size. Is it close to that?
HammadTheBeast  +   450d ago
Slightly larger I'd say.
Skate-AK  +   450d ago
No. It's bigger than a Wii. Here is a comparison chart.

http://www.psmania.net/wp-c...
Harmonizer  +   450d ago
Sorry sir, but that chart fails to mention anything wii related
Game4life  +   450d ago
but that doesnt show a wii u or wii.
sAVAge_bEaST  +   450d ago
at least xbox One something,.. size.
Sevir  +   450d ago
Are you 2 dense?
The Wii and Wii U are both Smaller than the PS3/4 and Xbone/360 revisions... The size comparisons alone shows you that.
ThatCanadianGuy514  +   450d ago
I don't know how they did it.Smaller, more powerful, sleeker and cheaper.Without even using a power brick.That is just embarrassing for MS.

They must be into some deep satanic black magic over at Sony HQ.
HammadTheBeast  +   450d ago
I don't understand how they put a power brick inside that small thing when Xbox can't fit it inside the huge case.
ThanatosDMC  +   450d ago
It'd be more ridiculous if the Xbone has heat problems and the PS4 runs cool.
Why o why  +   450d ago
The 360 did overheat WITH a power brick.....not making this up I swear
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jeffgoldwin  +   450d ago
They didn't overheat because of power supply or heat issues. Was due to poor soldering which lead to failure (mostly). And I see it said some failures look to have been from some crappy quality parts too.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...
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Angeljuice  +   450d ago
@jeffgoldwin

Poor soldering only tends to 'let go' when things overheat. This is what would happen with the YLOD. I have fixed many PS3's, with the earlier ones the fan tends to stop working at the faster rate, with the newer versions they generally have poorly applied thermal paste. Both problems end up causing the system to overheat which softens the solder to the point that it breaks away from the component. But the point is they have to get very hot for this to happen.

The fix is to apply heat at a specific temp (300-350c) to a perfectly level motherboard which re-flows the solder to contact the components.

I have never taken a 360 apart, so I would like to know if it's the same fix for the Xbox, can anyone enlighten me on that?
moparful99  +   449d ago
@JeffGoldwin The solder wasn't the cause of the overheating.. It was the victim.. Microsoft had a very poor design with the initial 360 with minimal vents, a cramped case, and an awful pc fan led to the overheating which in turn cause the solder and thermal paste to fail leading to the RROD..
dredgewalker  +   449d ago
@moparful
Nope the tin solder used that replaced the lead solder is the primary culprit in a lot of hardware failures. It just doesn't like heat too well. I've had a laptop die on me with the same problem. I'd really love to strangle the guy who thought of replacing lead with tin solder.
BattleTorn  +   450d ago
Of course it wouldn't have a power brick!

The newer models of the PS3 and X360 don't have power bricks - namely because people hate them.

Now, I'm trying to recall if my Wii U has one... idk.
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SilentGuard  +   450d ago
umm, yes the newer 360's still use power bricks.
BattleTorn  +   450d ago
I stand corrected. That's such horse shit that they still have power bricks.

http://www.youtube.com/watc... @2:43
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1lawrence  +   450d ago
Xbox one has a power brick
Septic  +   450d ago
Does it? That is lame
jeffgoldwin  +   450d ago
Every laptop, especially gaming laptops, all have bricks. For laptops on the go, no brick would be great. But for consoles, it just sits hidden behind your tv anyways.

But still, that's pretty cool sony can do that, even if is only in a geeky kinda of way most wont notice. Sony laptops even have power bricks still.
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Cryptcuzz  +   450d ago
After all the craziness that was RRoD, I understand why they wanted the Xbox One to be so big despite having a power brick.

Billions of dollars lost is no joke, I am surprised they didn't make it the size of a small microwave.
Benchm4rk  +   449d ago
Link please. Everywhere I've read says that it doesn't have a power brick inside
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moparful99  +   449d ago
Microsoft basically used off the shelf computer components to build their console including the still baffling disc loading tray and power brick... Why on earth is Microsoft still using disc trays?
TrendyGamers  +   450d ago
I think the Wii U has a bigish one, iirc.
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ShwankyShpanky  +   450d ago
No PS3 ever had a power brick.

EVERY X360 model has a power brick (newest included).

The Xbone also has a power brick.
BattleTorn  +   450d ago
"No PS3 ever had a power brick." correct.

"The Xbone also has a power brick." totally BS, MS!
Foxgod  +   450d ago
The power brick is pretty small tho, slightly bigger then the controller:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum...
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riseer23  +   450d ago
360 slim still uses a power brick.Sony is a hardware manufacture which gives them a advantage in this department.I also love the Ps4 design more so then the Ps3.It does look like a upgraded Ps2, which is one of the best looking consoles ever made.
lento  +   450d ago
Takes a look at my original ps3.... Nope no power brick. Takes a look at the ps4 ( preordered) nope no power brick. :)
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Skate-AK  +   450d ago
Yeah Wii U has a brick. It is quite large.
Game4life  +   450d ago
the console is tiny though so it doesnt matter to me
first1NFANTRY  +   450d ago
Sony hasn't had a power brick with their consoles since the ps2. then again that's what you get from a world acclaimed hardware company. The ps4 looks incredibly slick.
riseer23  +   450d ago
The first Playstation didn't use a power brick.Only the Slim models for Ps1/Ps2 used a brick.
Wedge19  +   450d ago
It's about the size of the original PS3 slim without the curve.
Abriael  +   450d ago
All stuff that we already knew.
SilentGuard  +   450d ago
Take a lesson from Sony MS, nobody likes power bricks. If Sony can build a smaller console with the power supply built in then there is no excuse for the larger Xbox One to still have a brick.
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jamz4  +   450d ago
I actually like power bricks, to me it can only be a good thing to have all that heat outside the console. Didn't help the 360 much right enough
buynit  +   450d ago
Impressive.. No power brick and still looks smaller than xb1... If xb1 still has a power brick......
abzdine  +   450d ago
Well it actually has one
PositiveEmotions  +   450d ago
I want my hands on the ps4 already ugh i hate waiting.. Lets all built a time machine http://murphymac.com/slib/i... and get the ps4 :)
moparful99  +   449d ago
Or we can do what Cartman did in south park waiting for the wii and freeze ourselves :)
Soldierone  +   450d ago
It is really about the same size as the first PS3 Slim as stated. Its "thinner" because it has a flat top, instead of the round design of PS3.

However when I was looking at it, it did look a bit taller than the PS3 by a few inches. Of course there wasnt a PS3 next to it, so I'm not entirely sure.
M-M  +   450d ago
Like I said before, when they release a slim version it will be equivalent to the size of a piece of paper.
mark134uk  +   450d ago
hope she doesnt overheat :/
riseer23  +   450d ago
Well it uses around the same power as the first Ps3 slim model.Which i have owned for well over 3 years with no issues ''Knocks on Wood''It should be a very stable console.Like anything it's not perfect but i expect this gen to have a lower fail rate.Even MS seems to understand this go around,just shows you the difference between a software company and a hardware.
mark134uk  +   450d ago
true ive got a ps3 thats about 6 years old but she is the big version,but surely the 8 gig of DDR5 give of a decent amount of heat

will there be 16, 512 or 8 x 1 gigs?
moparful99  +   449d ago
@Mark From what I'm hearing the PS4 GPU is clocked under the PS3's and that the Jaguar APU they're using has a low power draw.. So basically more power less heat..
Sarobi  +   450d ago
So.. does this draw out the possibility of them making a 'slim' version of this later on lol?
Blankolf  +   450d ago
Dear Sony,

You're making unbearable to wait for your next gen console.

Sincerelly,
Octodad
ape007  +   450d ago
the system has everything right, this look like the return of the PS2 (not that ps3 was bad or anything)
sAVAge_bEaST  +   450d ago
no, but ps2 was legend.. ps4 is the new ps2, one is the new dreamcast. (i hope)
abzdine  +   450d ago
Dreamcast is legend too!!
One is more like Saturn
ape007  +   449d ago
we still can't judge xbox one, the amazon sales are great, the games look great, great exclusives, the controller look almost perfect, we are in for another great era in gaming :)
Benchm4rk  +   449d ago
Why do you want something to fail so badly. Competition is good for the industry. If it wasn't for competitors trying to out do each other then we wouldn't see much advancements in hardware. Say Microsoft didn't make consoles and Sony had no competition from Nintendo on the power side of things. Do you really think Sony would of gone with 8gb of gddr5 ram for the ps4???
bobacdigital  +   450d ago
Pretty much confirms my initial analysis of the console.. They used laptop parts to get the form factor as small as they could..
riseer23  +   450d ago
Yup the APU used is a custom version that ATI will roll out later in the year.From what i read Cerny talked about ''"The original AMD GCN architecture allowed for one source of graphics commands, and two sources of compute commands. For PS4, we’ve worked with AMD to increase the limit to 64 sources of compute commands -- the idea is if you have some asynchronous compute you want to perform, you put commands in one of these 64 queues, and then there are multiple levels of arbitration in the hardware to determine what runs, how it runs, and when it runs, alongside the graphics that's in the system."

It's a great interview

http://www.gamasutra.com/vi...
bobacdigital  +   450d ago
Sony did a great job of talking to devs and working through what everyone wanted.

One thing that is really going to help them A LOT is that AMD wont have any issues with production. There wont be any bottlenecks in developing the APU because AMD is already shipping similar items on a massive scale daily.

Good Partnership in the long run I think.
carmelo43  +   450d ago
Sony works with aliens, why you think they are the only company that can do that
josephayal  +   450d ago
alien tech
ape007  +   449d ago
u mean Rocket science, cough ms cough
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Der_Kommandant  +   449d ago
Black magic level stuff.
Koyes  +   450d ago
I'll be paying a little more for that stand. Love to stand my consoles upright, if possible
T2  +   449d ago
Hey I used to stand my fat ps3 up but I heard it was worse for getting dust inside ... Is that true or is it no problem ?
Koyes  +   449d ago
My PS3 is actually the 80GB Phat version and I never stand it upright, due to the vents being located on the side, which would make falling dust much easier to get into said vents if it was stood upright. For the Phat PS3, I would say it is worse and would suggest you keep it on its belly.
Roper316  +   450d ago
the difference of being a hardware & software manufacturer as opposed to a software maker that tries to manufacture hardware.

I also think that since they went with a more standardized architecture it was easier to keep it smaller where with the
PS3 it was all new tech basically and they had to wait for the chip sizes to shrink to allow for a smaller casing along with BR drive being smaller in size as well. Anyone who has ever opened a PS3 launch model & the current PS3 can attest to the size difference in the drives.
FightFans  +   450d ago
Legendary Sony wins again.
quiddd  +   450d ago
Is the disc still a feeder design??
Dlacy13g  +   450d ago
Well done Sony, I like the fact that the power unit sits inside.
theWB27  +   450d ago
A gaming brick is getting praise now...wow. Next itll be "omgz how did they getz the power cord to plug into the outlet!" I know there are some things to be excited for but geez.

I own a 360 and PS3 and never once has the 360 having a brick and the PS3 lacking one made any difference to anything at all.
Dlacy13g  +   450d ago
While I agree it doesn't really matter, I do think its pretty impressive that it doesn't have a power brick given its size.
sAVAge_bEaST  +   450d ago
it's because it's '13 not '93, and AA batteries in the controller are unacceptable for the same reason. -believe it or not, but power tech has advanced alot in 20 years.
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theWB27  +   450d ago
I don't mind batteries. If my battery goes out in my 360 controller I cant just swap out the batteries, I have to buy a whole new controller for Playstation. If batteries were so '93 then wouldn't we have a better solution by now? So batteries aren't old tech...before the 360 we were still using wired controllers as a standard and the 360 released when???
sAVAge_bEaST  +   450d ago
@WB27-- I have 2 ps3,s.. fatty and a slim. Both controllers hold the same charge, since the day I bought them.. AA is old tech..FACT. Lithium Ion batteries, are now super cheap.,.. does you cell phone use AA,.. i mean c'mon.
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shivvy24  +   450d ago
@wb , trust me the whole AA battery thing is old ! In 6 years of owning a PS3 ive never had a problem ! Whats even great is that the controller takes like 20min for a full charge !
Hicken  +   449d ago
You... you don't understand the significance of the PS4, having all that power, being that small and still not requiring the power source to be outside the system?

You REALLY don't get why that's a big deal?
MikeMyers  +   449d ago
I guess it's a huge deal to those who look for any advantage over competing systems or those who need every square inch of the room. Other than that most people will just tuck it behind the TV like they do with all of those cables and powerbars they already have.
theWB27  +   449d ago
I understand the, whoa they got that in there, but for people to be oogling over. No, I don't get that. Before you feel the need to rant...from experience with me having the 360 and PS3, the brick has never made any difference....

That's the part Im commenting on...not the significance of the PS4 doing it but people acting like it's such a bad thing that the OTHER console has a brick. It's never made a difference from the aesthetics point.

@MikeMyers
That's my way of looking at it.
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MikeMyers  +   449d ago
@theWB27
"That's my way of looking at it."

Well yeah. I think it's just common sense that it's not a huge deal but look around. You have certain individuals who have a vested interest in making sure the competition looks as weak or as inferior as possible. Not sure why they act that way since anyone can buy either system. It's not like only certain people can get in that special group of owners.
strigoi814  +   450d ago
Xbox one has the power brick inside thats why its too big
theWB27  +   450d ago
X1 has a brick too
mkotechno  +   450d ago
No.
RedHawkX  +   449d ago
nope xbox one has a power brick on the outside and is still a giant console. sorry get the ps4 its what everyone you ever knew would have wanted.

also this aint no harry potter magic. this is knack technology from big ps3 to nice small ps4. it sheded all the weight
CaulkSlap  +   449d ago
That was my first assumption. But nope. Once again Xbox has a giant ugly external power brick. I was then worried PS4 was following suit when we saw how small it was in comparison. And nope, the PSU is actually internal. So for hardware design, PS4 wins by an absolute landslide.
ElementX  +   450d ago
It's convenient that there's no power brick, however if there was one it would be hidden behind my TV stand anyway
FrightfulActions  +   450d ago
Even if it had a brick (personally never saw the big deal and could care less) its still shockingly slim.

I was seriously not expecting it to be so sleek. I was expecting something bulky that would later be slimmed down two years down the line. Imagine my surprised when they brought out a console that looked like it already went through the slimming process. I'm happily surprised by it.

I just have to wonder if they'll still find a way to make it even smaller. Sony does have a reputation for releasing slimmer versions of their models several years down the line. It's already pretty small, I wonder if they'll be able to squeeze it down to PS2-Slim sizes.
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