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DirectX 11.2 Revealed - Available Only On Windows 8.1 & Xbox One

DSOGaming writes: "Well, we all saw that coming. In an attempt to promote its latest OS, Microsoft has officially revealed the new version of its DX API. And as you may have guessed, it is coming exclusively on Windows 8.1 and Xbox One. DirectX 11.2 was presented at its Build Conference, and you can find the keynotes video below. Perhaps the best feature of DX11.2, Tiled Resources, is demoed at around the first one hour mark. With Tiled Resources, Direct3D 11.2 introduces support for hardware virtual resources, allowing the creation of massive textures using minimal memory, and permitting improved bandwidth efficiency."

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john21632d ago

typical move from Microsoft. Getting DX10/Vista vibes with this

papashango1632d ago

hah still not switching from windows 7.

WarThunder1632d ago (Edited 1632d ago )

M$ are trying to force win7 users to switch to win8 with this DX bullshit...

Typical MS.

MikeMyers1632d ago (Edited 1632d ago )

"M$ are forcing win7 users to switch to win8...

Typical MS."

Really? So what PC games will force DirectX 11.2 only? Also why wouldn't you want to keep people investing in new Windows if that is your business? Would you bash Sony for not allowing PS3 games to work on the PS4? Would you bash Apple for not allowing some IOS features to work with 3GS Iphones?

The point of running a business is to make money and if everyone is still using Windows XP and everything can run on Windows XP why would consumers switch? Microsoft is trying to become like Apple, a more controlled environment behind a wall. It is about making money and there is nothing at all wrong with that. If they invest in DirectX 11.2 they can make it Windows 8 only if they want to. That's how you entice people to upgrade.

darthv721632d ago

is what i use at work but i upgraded my home Pc from XP to windows 8 and I can see the benefits. Especially in the startup.

when it comes down to the functionality, windows 8 is very much like windows 7. It is more suitable for a tablet but it can be navigated just fine with a mouse too.

ScubbaSteve1632d ago

When my desktop learns to transform into a tablet I'll consider getting windows 8.

rodiabloalmeida1632d ago

@papashango

Thats for sure. They must add DX11.2 to win7, otherwise they will lose market.

zme-ul1632d ago

let's see ...
W7 SP1 still on shelves, why yes - officially anyways
W7 SP1 support cycle ended, no - 2015 (2020 extended)

so why MS is murdering a OS (W7 SP1) after 2 years?

Autodidactdystopia1632d ago

what our core audience doesn't want to switch to our garbage tablet os?

well lets just pull a vista.

FORCE THEM!

Dir_en_grey1632d ago (Edited 1632d ago )

All companies try to make money, yes.

But most other companies try to bring out better products/technology to convince their customers to buy the new product. Thus actually help advancing of technology and help everybody move forward.

While Microsoft doesn't really care if their development comes out with good products or not, either way they will just use marketing and dirty tricks to try to hinder the competition so they can dominate the market.

Sure fanboys can say every company is just trying to make money, but seriously really think about this for a bit.

Why in the HELL would you want to support the latter business tactic, instead of ones that do honest business which try to bring out better products to benefit everybody.

Microsoft's business motto does nothing but to screw the ignorant customers, and sadly most consumers don't know any better, and are just forced to use their products like this Windows situation.
And once they dominate the market, just like now, they'll start screwing their customers for that $$.

NewMonday1632d ago

MS is succeeding in making me get a new OS, just not W8

developers need to gang up and support Linux, this is the time to do it, getting a new HDD to try it out.

meetajhu1632d ago (Edited 1632d ago )

Your IQ's still remain unmatched. You cannot simply add DirectX11 updates to previous version of OS. Like feature update from Dx10-Dx11 kernels. Direct 11.1 and 11.2 requires WDDM 1.2 Kernel support from GPU in order to work properly. So stop bashing Microsoft. They still make more money on older version of Windows and there is a reason why they are not supporting it.

thecurseddevil1632d ago

@meetajhu (reply not for papashango)

what are you trying to say?
dx 11.2 needs a wddm 1.2 kernel support from gpu?
so
cant they upgrade the kernel and keep the os same.
just as happens in linux world all the frikin' time.
i can install linux 3.0 kernel in ubuntu 11.04 released in april 2011.but ms cant upgrade the kernel of windows 7?

the whole "we are doing it just because it is absolutely required " shit by microsoft is to fool general audience like you.

hell they dont even need to upgrade the kernel.
a small kernel patch would do the job.

mewhy321632d ago

I feel like one of the driving forces at work here is the fact that Xbone using ddr3 vs PS4 GDDR5 and xbone's less powerful GPU put Microsoft at a serious disadvantage. They're trying to make it up with software.

meetajhu1631d ago

@thecurseddevil

Windows is hybrid kernel in which app OS depends on the kernel for Security,graphics etc.

Linux is monolithic, the OS doesn't depend on any specific kernel because there is absolute 0 security as well as no secure hardware virtualization. Meaning only a third party house can implement them on their own and they are far less secure and broken. Linux input registration is server-client like when you click a app the os acts like server and the user's interface is like client and the time taken to execute a process is atleast 3x slower than Windows.

That's not how Windows works. That is why u see so many awesome and expensive application on Windows like Z-brush,Fusion, Adobe media encoder, 3dsMax etc etc. And single most reason they never release professional applications on any other platform.

meetajhu1631d ago

@thecurseddevil

Also the point to be noted Linux distros comes packed with lots of kernels. Depending on the PC the kernel will be installed. You never expect the same performance between different machines and Linux can never take advantage of graphics and network hardware. Only scales with CPU performance. Windows works on 100% of all x86 and ARM PC's which runs only with one uniform kernel.

TXIDarkAvenger1631d ago

Windows 8 isn't bad though, just saying. In fact its a lot better.

bigrob9041631d ago

me too, i love my win 7. which i can't say the same for when i had vista. but i just can't support win 8, just not feeling it. as a matter of fact when my mom upgraded her computer recently i told her to get win 7 instead of 8.

Mounce1631d ago

W7 for me. DX10 is fine enough for me right now, I'm not going to be pressured into this bullshit tactic where I have to get the NEW Windows to just get minimal upgraded features that could be given on W7/W8 together. But crammed for desperateness of W8 selling more at the cost of god damn convenience and efficiency.

Every time I try to use Windows 8, I nearly rage by how the browser system and the boxy-forced-down-your-throat square shit is completely fucking incompetent. This is a computer system that you use for Typing things up, using the net or Gaming. Not looking at a rainbow colored fucking collage.

thecurseddevil1631d ago

@meetajhu

>>Windows is hybrid kernel in which app OS depends on the kernel for Security,graphics etc.

there is not such thing as a "app OS".

>>Linux is monolithic, the OS doesn't depend on any specific kernel because there is absolute 0 security as well as no secure hardware virtualization.

obviously you have never heard of Linux Virtual Server.and massive LOL's on 0 security of linux kernel.

>> Linux input registration is server-client like when you click a app the os acts like server and the user's interface is like client and the time taken to execute a process is atleast 3x slower than Windows.

literally it is the spupidest shit i have ever heard.
where do you get this shit bro?any source for the aforementioned superpower of windows to execute a process more than 3x faster than linux?

go and tell the same thing to top 10 supercomputers who run on linux.
and also to over 450 out of the most powerful 500 ones.

and dont say that the reason for that is because of linux's flexibility or cost.
as the people who make supercomps could care less about money or time when they are spending like 400 million dollars on each.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

>>That is why u see so many awesome and expensive application on Windows like Z-brush,Fusion..etc.

the singe reason that those apps arent on other OSes is because of windows' market share.period.

>>Also the point to be noted Linux distros comes packed with lots of kernels. Depending on the PC the kernel will be installed.

wow just wow.you obviously have no idea what you are talking about.
a linux distro comes with only one kernel.again,where do you get this shit man?

>>You never expect the same performance between different machines and Linux can never take advantage of graphics and network hardware.

and with that you have proved that you know absolutely nothing you are talking about.
you are just another linux hater and windows fanboy who is ready to pay $100 just to get "the ultimate version".

thecurseddevil1631d ago

@meetajhu
and also about the uniformity of kernel.
linux kernel is more uniform than any out there.
even on android the same linux kernel runs on so many hardwares.on top of that patches can be added.

meetajhu1631d ago

@thecurseddevil

No in Android every manufacture has to make different kernels for different phone specification. Even Cyanogenmod every phone had different kernels. On iPhone and Windows phone its same.

Can't help but notice. Android phones has atleast a average of 300ms input lag. That is the amount time to process a input event. I suggest you need read more about how Linux works.
And oh boy u need to learn what virtualization linux supports in the first place

meetajhu1631d ago

@thecurseddevil

Market share? lol. It is impossible to make any GPU based application on Linux in first place. Microsoft screwing their customers? I think i need to stop arguing with you. Because you have no flipping clue what your even talking about.

thecurseddevil1631d ago (Edited 1631d ago )

@meetajhu

>>Market share? lol. It is impossible to make any GPU based application on Linux in first place.

are you absolutely out of your mind?

wow the level of your stupidity baffles me.you might be the stupidest person i have
ever argued with.(i mark this statement as *,whenever i use this come back and read this again.)

alright but still i like to have my sources: https://en.wikipedia.org/wi...

>>No in Android every manufacture has to make different kernels for different phone specification.

*

kiddo.if manufactues had to make their own kernels.why would they make android kernels over and over again?
and do you even realise that windows' kernel on mobile and desktop are completely different.while linux kernel is
same on android and the distro i m typing this from.

if both used completely diff,how can you explain the existence of ubuntu for android.

http://www.ubuntu.com/phone...

*

>>Can't help but notice. Android phones has atleast a average of 300ms input lag.

of coarse you notice that.*
still dont pass a ambiguous personal opinion as a fact without a source.

>>And oh boy u need to learn what virtualization linux supports in the first place

and you need to learn about the things which you criticise before you criticise them *

>>That is the amount time to process a input event on linux

yeah and when you do the same task on windows,
the time freezes by magic->task happens->the fairies working inside windows os give command to god to unfreeze the time.

>> Even Cyanogenmod every phone had different kernels. On iPhone and Windows phone its same.

ya,in the cyanogenmod diff versions are available for diff devices.
whats sad is that you justify it as the phones having diff kernels.
think about it,if the kernels in each phone were diff.
why would we even have a android sdk?
why isnt there is a kindle fire sdk or s3 sdk etc?*

>> I think i need to stop arguing with you. Because you have no flipping clue what your even talking about.

no the only reason you have to stop arguing with me is because you have used up all your bubbles for this article,Mr. Smartass.

here as a good sendoff i type the whole * statement again.

*wow the level of your stupidity baffles me.you might be the stupidest person i have
ever argued with.

i will be sending the same in form of personal message(s).

H3ADWOUND811631d ago

I seriously hate Microsoft, It's their whole attitude and shameless greed & apple isn't much better either. It feels almost like they've constantly got their hand in your wallet.

Autodidactdystopia1631d ago

@meetajew and @cursed devil

I honestly don't know whos right. I don't know IM BITING MY DAMN FINGERNAILS OFF.

That was entertaining Good show. I wish you guys had a couple more bubbles to see what you had to say next.

so which is it does Linux only use 1 kernel that recognizes different hardware?
or does Linux come with multiple kernels that are checked for compatability during installation?

I was eating popcorn reading your comments.

very heated debate good comebacks and a few doublecrosses

I rate this overall a 8.9 for an n4g battle.

Good show ;)

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Timesplitter141632d ago (Edited 1632d ago )

Anyone with minimal knowledge of graphics programming will know that this whole "DirectX 11 exclusive to this and that" is a pretty meaningless statement.

Other platforms use OpenGL and whatever DirectX can do, OpenGL can do too. They are just different languages that tell GPUs what to do, and they are both updated frequently to fit the needs of the latest GPUs. It's the GPU that matters, not the language.

I find it very annoying how MS tries to take advantage of people who are not aware of this. Same goes for "the power of the cloud". The cloud isn't an exclusive Xbox One feature, nor will it make a significant difference. It's something all devices connected to the internet can have. PS4, PC, your phone... they all have "the power of the cloud". And no, there won't be a supercomputer somewhere running your games at 9999 FPS through the cloud. It doesn't work like that. It'll be used for persistent saves, synchronizing data for online games and stuff like that

MysticStrummer1632d ago

Yes.

Tiled resources are also known as megatextures, virtual textures, sparse textures, and partially resident textures. Both AMD GPUs in One and PS4 can do this.

DirectX 11.2 may be only available on Windows 8.1 and XBox One, but that doesn't mean it's features are only possible with DirectX 11.2

Diver1632d ago

MS has tried to kill the superior API Open GL just like they helped kill another superior API called Glide.

Thas MS tho always getting rich at the expense of the gamer experience

Bzone241632d ago

Am I having deja vu or have I read this somewhere before? Oh yeah, you just posted the exact same thing below.

denawayne1632d ago

Yes, the cloud can be had by any device connected to internet. BUT, not all devices connect to MS's cloud named Azure. It' like saying I have a license to drive a car therefore I can drive any car I like. No...I can drive any car I have access to. So, my car might be a Civic and the guy's next door might be a Ferrari. Does that mean I can outperform his car?

darthv721632d ago

as big of a 3dfx fan as i am...it wasnt MS that killed GLide. That would be Nvidia and them supporting OpenGL and D3D.

Keep in mind that the programming language used is up to the developer and GLide was great for certain things but it wasnt capable of the newer stuff that OpenGL and D3D were moving towards.

3dfx made great cards but in the end, they too had to succumb to the pressures of the ever changing PC landscape. Nvidia bought them up and while the current "SLI" is nothing like the originator of the technique it is nice to see it lives on in name.

MysticStrummer1632d ago

@Bzone - Yeah I posted it below first and then saw a comment up here where it would be a relevant reply.

No_Limit1632d ago (Edited 1632d ago )

MysticStrummer, did you just cut N paste your own post in the same thread? LOL, I have seen it all. Even you ran out of negative materials trying to put a negative spin on the awesomeness of DX 11.2.
Com on, go for the hat trick, paste one more.

MysticStrummer1632d ago (Edited 1632d ago )

@No_Limit

: ) The list of other names for tiled resources actually comes from MS.

http://www.microsoft.com/en...

Click on Details to see it.

Next, we have an AMD page showing their GPU can do it

http://www.amd.com/us/produ...

Any questions?

Diver1632d ago

Dude I said helped to kill not mainly responsible. I owned ever thing from a Banshee to a Voodoo 5000 an I remember the 16 bit vs 32 bit color battle.

An I also remember ms throwing ever thing they had at that fight. As I sad they helped. Helped meaning not solely or even mainly responsible.

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bligmerk1632d ago

Yeah, they pulled the same BS with DX10 and DX11, saying they were "interlinked" with the OS, then later, people came up with patches to run them without the "required" version of Windows. OpenGL will make the same feature upgrades. For the PS4, Sony supports DX11 and OpenGL4.0 plus during GDC, Sony announced their own Playstation Shader Language, which goes beyond DX11 and OpenGL4. One development being overlooked is Sony and Kaz are bringing together more separate divisions and Sony Pictures Imageworks does a lot of shader development for movie rendering. There is cross pollination developing between Sony Imageworks and Playstation.

NeoRatt1632d ago

These features are technically impossible to implement on x360. They require gigs of system ram and a video card that x360 des not have. On the PC side there might be a cause for some concern.

So how is that typical MS?

B-radical1632d ago

Its good news for the actual games tho

TheXgamerLive1632d ago

Typical scared sony fans you diss hate and lie about what you dont have, chill you will still play equally great games ao enough of your BS.

trancefreak1631d ago

The first person who said Sony was you.

People are comparing MS WIN 8.1 VS MS WIN 7 DX 11. Do you get it now?

So stay on topic and get rid of your fan girl non sense.

ShabbaRanks1632d ago (Edited 1632d ago )

Typical M$... It’s seriously funny they always need to force their products down people throats other wise consumers wouldn’t use them. Of course the sheep will as always. Same thing goes with the kinect no one cares about it and it’s the reason the X1 is 100$ more then the PS4.

After the shit they tried to pull with the Xbox One I’ve lost all faith in M$. There is no way in hell I’m buying an other product from them. Yes they changed the policy, but wait a sec you still need to be online to play Forza5 and Titan Fall, because the AI is via the cloud… You smart weasels you !

The other funny thing is that OpenGL is better then DX, but hey don’t take it from me. Read this:
http://www.extremetech.com/...

2cents1632d ago

Typical ridiculous reactions again, what a surprise.

New OS, new DirectX, new console, you want it? You buy it, simple. You don't want the latest technologies then stick with what you have. Simple.

3-4-51631d ago

I have windows 8. Didn't want it because of all the comments I read like the ones I'm seeing on here.

Windows 8 has been awesome. I don't even use all the other BS it comes with, you just click on desktop and it looks like and functions like windows 7.

It's not that bad unless you normally play a lot of old PC games. It may be a problem then. I have a few games I'd love to play that don't work but games like Age of empires, Age of Mythology, Rome Total War, Medieval Total War, Roller Coaster Tycoon 1, they all work fine.

I have a feeling Microsoft has a few more tricks up it's sleeves, and some of those will be pretty cool but others will backfire in their face.

trancefreak1631d ago

So why do I need windows 8 again if I want it to look like windows 7?

Windows 8 is also not compatible with my audio workstation or Microsoft's Dev kits it appears.

ATi_Elite1631d ago

........and still NO reason to switch to that crap Win8

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greenpowerz1632d ago

WoW I thought just some of the features were exclusives.

thebigman1632d ago (Edited 1632d ago )

11.2 Isn't even exlusive to X1, it's exclusive to Windows 8.1 and "next gen consoles like the One" http://www.videogamer.com/n...

EDIT: Source 2 http://www.youtube.com/watc...

greenpowerz1632d ago (Edited 1632d ago )

I've seen that info before LOL

http://n4g.com/news/1290994...

Everybody has their take on it(spin)

If you read my comment above again I did not say a dam thing about XB1. Thats you PS3 fanboys nervous conscious speaking.

@ thebigman

What are you going on about LMAO. Who is saying it's only on XB1? Is there something wrong with gamers being excited about this tech being on their console? People can read you know. Speaking about the tech from a gamer's perspective doesn't mean they can't read LMAO

Mkai281632d ago (Edited 1632d ago )

Concerning Directx11.2.He said ONLY possible on windows 8.1 machines or a next generation console, like the Xbox One. He said console not consoles. The PS4 would have to run windows 8.1.. OpenGL is fine with PS4.

The_HarryEtTubMan1632d ago

Xbox One isn't anything special and will get smoked this gen

darkequitus1632d ago

DX10 was always a waste of space. I am not convinced this is.

Many companies do this. Apple locked out my iMac from Mountain Lion, yet I can run it on a parallels VM on the same machine. An incentive to upgrade

Kenshin_BATT0USAI1632d ago

Glad I got a copy of Windows 8 for free.

They're clearly just trying to create incentives to upgrade. (that being said I think Windows 8 runs fine, been using for half a year now)

gamernova1632d ago

Windows 8 is awesome. I do not know why people demonize it.

Kenshin_BATT0USAI1632d ago

It's somewhat different. I mean sure it was annoying to get used to, but that's all it was, annoying. After I figured it out. I find it works much more fluidly than any of the prior windows.

nnotdead1632d ago

because of the early zeitgeist of hating the OS for a lack of a start button, and having a touch functioning home screen. now most of the people hating on Win 8 haven't even spent time using the OS so they cling onto those same uninformed opinions - championing their ignorance like it is something to truly bestow online.

truth is, if you have Win 7 there is no reason to upgrade to Win 8, but if you have an older version of Windows go for 8. 8 does a lot of what 7 does as well or better. people just need to get over the tiled home screen (metro). beyond easy to get out of, and there are plenty of programs out there that will allow you to never have to see it again if it's really that big of a hurdle for you.

Virus2011632d ago

Because people hate change.

CoLD FiRE1632d ago (Edited 1632d ago )

For me Windows 8 is much better as there's not a single thing that I can do in Windows 7 that I can't in Windows 8. As far as I'm concerned, Windows 8 is better in every possible way.

I stopped having icons on the desktop as soon as I upgraded to Windows 7 and instead just pinned my most used programs to the taskbar. Now that there’s even a better way to organize my stuff I use the start screen to have my programs grouped into different categories which is a lot more practical than having icons all over the desktop. Unlike icons on the desktop or the start menu, with Windows 8 and the start screen you don’t have to minimize all running programs or scroll through endless lists of programs when you want to launch a new application.

Here’s a picture of what my start screen looks like: https://ici6cq.sn2.livefile...

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falviousuk1632d ago

apart from the tiled interface which is only suitable for a touch screen interface, windows 8 is a very good os, it boots up and shuts down quickly.

Im using classic shell to give me back the windows 7 start menu and desktop. I very rarely use the tiled metro interface

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jairusmonillas1632d ago

lol microsoft. nobody are upgrading to windows 8 just because it have directX 11.2 hell even if they made it directx 12 people won't still be upgrading to windows 8 (the 2nd coming of vista)

Foxgod1632d ago

Win8 is fine. it runs very well, vista was rushed.

JBSleek1632d ago

Windows 8 is faster and smoother than Win 7 and you could just use desktop mode if you like as well just saying.

Transporter471632d ago

Windows 9 is where is at, until then windows 7 will suffice unless they manage to make it worse.

HammadTheBeast1632d ago

Agreed, every other Windows is good.