1120°
Submitted by W3R3W00F 428d ago | news

Microsoft tightens its grip on the Xbox One, with new rules for developers

"Microsoft walked back on restrictive provisions it had put in place for the sale and distribution of new games for the Xbox One, but now it’s added a new rule that limits developer access to Kinect." (Kinect, Microsoft, Tag Invalid, Xbox One)

« 1 2 »
minimur12  +   428d ago | Well said
thats just embarassing
Utalkin2me  +   428d ago | Well said
What is embarrassing is how MS likes to nickel and dime everyone.
r1sh12  +   428d ago
MS need to sack don and get someone like peter moore back, he was passionate about gaming.
Don mattrick is making decisions that are clearly hurting MS - its like he has not understood how DRM was a massive bullet in the foot.
Kinect as a mandatory for the X1 is also another missile in the foot, and now not opening up that particular part of the platform to get better by 'hackers' and stay at home devs.

Man Ive lost all confidence in MS, they need to pay peter moore some stupid money to come back to save this situation, Don has destroyed any good work that has been done.
#1.1.1 (Edited 428d ago ) | Agree(51) | Disagree(8) | Report
JokesOnYou  +   428d ago
Wait so keeping something proprietary that you've spent a ton of R&D money on is now evil...whats wrong with paying micro to use something they created?...or use another motion camera...or make your own but don't cry because a business isn't giving you something for free.
Utalkin2me  +   428d ago | Intelligent
@JokesOnYou

First off i would like to know how you get me crying out of my statement. Or maybe i hit a nerve cause i am speaking the truth, so you felt the need to act like a baby and try to justify you comment by so called "throwing salt in the wounds".

There is no wounds here. I don't buy Ms products and will never buy MS products period, going forward. I was making a comment on a common business practice that MS likes to do in all aspects of their divisions and not just the xbox one.
nosferatuzodd  +   428d ago | Intelligent
When you think about it, this is actually in response to the “spying” accusations. If only licensed developers can use the hardware, they can at least partially assure the world that it’s not being used for illicit purposes.

If just any third party can release a game that uses the Kinect, then it’s possible they could misuse it.

Microsoft’s PA office really needs to better explain this. Either that, or this site is misrepresenting the facts.
ShwankyShpanky  +   428d ago
@JOY: Did MS cancel some big Kinect giveaway? Because I would assume people would need to buy a Kinect to hack it or develop for it. Where is anyone asking to get something "for free?"

And that still doesn't address the lock-out of other third party peripherals.
SilentNegotiator  +   428d ago
More proof that Microsoft doesn't know what they're doing.

Seriously, putting the squeeze on indie devs in this day and age? REALLY? Right as indie development hits its stride?
guitarded77  +   428d ago
@ r1sh12
Right on about firing Don... What they really need is some new blood in there. Some real devs with business sense to head up the place. Their iron fist mentality isn't going to cut it.
GrownUpGamer  +   428d ago
@Utalkin2me
"What is embarrassing is how MS likes to nickel and dime everyone. "

What is embarrassing is how SONY likes to nickel and dime everyone.

What is embarrassing is how Samsung likes to nickel and dime everyone.

What is embarrassing is how Apple likes to nickel and dime everyone.

What is embarrassing is how Panasonic likes to nickel and dime everyone.
BattleAxe  +   428d ago
What they need is a Google or Sony executive to take over the Xbox division, because the mentality of the people that run that company is terrible.
thechowderp  +   428d ago
@jokesonyou
its not the fact we have to pay for stuff, but a lot of there stuff is crap. why would i pay for gold when it doesnt offer me anything, unlike ps plus? why would i buy a motion control gimmick when im never gonna use it? why would i buy an xbox one when i could get a ps4 $100 cheaper? why would i buy an xbox one when most of their "exclusives" are on pc? why would i get an xbox one if i already have a cable box?
GrownUpGamer  +   428d ago
Utalkin2me send me a private message with this:

"Some people like to nickel and dime consumers more then others. I don't have to name names cause we know. "

His comment is/was this: "What is embarrassing is how MS likes to nickel and dime everyone. "

My opinion is that should have been this: "What is embarrassing is how MS LIKE MANY OTHERS likes to nickel and dime everyone. "
#1.1.11 (Edited 428d ago ) | Agree(1) | Disagree(9) | Report
Imalwaysright  +   428d ago
@ jokes. Kinect is hardware and when we buy its 100% our property. We have EVERY RIGHT to hack it as long as it isn't done with the sole purpose of doing something illegal. Now instead of buying we are licensing hardware and we can't claim ownership of the things we trade our money for.
Raoh  +   428d ago
What is embarrassing is how MS likes to nickel and dime everyone.

LMFAO. What I find funny is for years I've been saying this and that once MS felt they won the console wars that their arrogance would surpass any of nintendo, sega or sony. I've been semi anti MS since well before the xbox was ever conceived and got called a hater. Now all those friends who called me a hater want to change the subject when I bring up the xbox.

Only the newer generation must be surprised, this has been Microsoft 101 for the past 20 years and probably longer.

With steam providing linux support for games I may just go PS4/Linux and drop windows all together finally.

The only reason they were nice to developers and gamers this gen was to shake the failure of the first xbox and beat sony so they could charge everyone for everything like they do with windows.
#1.1.13 (Edited 428d ago ) | Agree(12) | Disagree(0) | Report
Syntax-Error  +   428d ago
r1sh12
I said the same thing a month ago. Don Mattrick is killing the brand. Peter Moore had more vision and appeal. Don needs to go. I dont want to Xbox fail, but this guy is making them look really bad to the public. I am actually buying an X1 and PS4 at a later date, but I am disappointed with the decisions he has made for the company so far. Phil Harrison is not that much better. He was the douche bag that launched the PS3 and you saw the negative publicity that received as well. Same scenario...overpriced forced to reduce price tag twice within a year. HORRIBLE VISION
#1.1.14 (Edited 428d ago ) | Agree(3) | Disagree(0) | Report
combatcash  +   428d ago
@ utalkin2me

You state that you don't buy MS products so I'm not sure why you're commenting here since it doesn't affect you in any way. Most companies nickel and dime apple,Sony,Microsoft and so on it happens its another way for them to make extra money.
Mounce  +   428d ago
You think the Xbox Team are the kind of people who instantly pick up a penny once they see it on the ground and they start going: "MINNNENNE...MEINNEN MINE!! THE PRRECCCIOUUSS"

Sounds conceivable.
Kurylo3d  +   427d ago
And the hits just keep on coming. I mean i gotta say microsoft really is a big joke. This guy is clearly one of those buisness guys who looks for every way to make money, but he doesnt look at the bigger picture. He doesn't realize that his ways of making money in fact make them lose money. He really is just arrogant as hell. Losing many many potential customers. If u wanna charge people to use kinnect which most people hack to do free stuff with.. not sell stuff with.. well then ur going to stop people from buying the kinnect all together. The free stuff was the reason to buy the kinnect. If it aint free to use then screw it.. u just lost money from potential purchases of the kinnect cause u decided it wasnt enough that they just buy it, they need to pay to use it. Dumbest buisness practice ive ever seen.

Have they not learned anything from apple? Apple only owns 10% of computer markets because they wanted to keep it all to themselves. Iphone is falling fast and falling hard.. record timing.. because apple wanted to keep it all to themselves and lock it up tight so u cant install whatever u want. At the end of the day if u dont learn from history you are doomed to repeat it. One of the things that made windows great was its open nature to developers... vs apples "all mine" mentality where you were forced to use apple OS. They are forgetting their roots.
#1.1.17 (Edited 427d ago ) | Agree(1) | Disagree(1) | Report
NukaCola  +   427d ago
I remember when MS banned loyal xbox gamers after they modded the internal 360 fans to run faster because of overheating and that RROD issue. People who didn't want to buy a 2nd or 3rd console but stuck to the brand. Oh how MS screwed those people too. MS is a pretty terrible company at their heart.
Why o why  +   428d ago
Its a pity for those who actually care. . . I'm not going to complain or act like I've been wronged because I give zero fs about kinect past not wanting it.

In regards to the 3rd party peripherals, its a shame but not surprising ms want to maximise profits.. They tend to overcharge because they know their customers have few alternatives. . . Just look at the hdd's as an example.. Its the ms way, nickel and dime dons
#1.2 (Edited 428d ago ) | Agree(41) | Disagree(9) | Report | Reply
minimur12  +   428d ago
I used to follow MS, im a PS gamer, but nevertheless I'm a gamer and follow gaming news. But I've given up on MS now, never visit their website unless their's something to blog about on their site. They've made a right fumble of themselves, and I can't believe there's still some fanboys out there supporting them.

You know, my friends MS fanboy arguement is
'Yeah, but MS had Bill Gates behind it, so therefore its great'
I reply with
'You may not have heard of him, but Shuhei Yoshida is the biggest G of all time.'
hellvaguy  +   428d ago
Ps4 is mandatory online charges. Vita has proprietary memory cards. They are all guilty of maximizing profits.

With that said, is MS more guilty of it than Sony? I'd say yes to that, but then you'd have to acknowledge both are more greedy Nintendo.
kewlkat007  +   428d ago
Yes, Everybody tries to maximize profits in their own way...Sony, Nintendo, MS, Didn't Sony take away Linux for similar hacking reasons..
#1.2.3 (Edited 428d ago ) | Agree(25) | Disagree(7) | Report
Tres21  +   428d ago
kewlkat has a point when a company gets worried about some1 exploiting there product they take steps even a small company would & with everyone worried the kinect is gonna go all skynet on em its not really a surprise. i was kinda of excited tho 2 see what homebrew was gonna come from the new kinect tho cuz i saw some crazy thing i never thought of from it that i hoped would of gotten used in games but they may just make a new kinect 4 pcs so who knows heck even ms doesnt kno cuz they could change there minds later
YNWA96  +   428d ago
Minimur12, that is the most stupid thing I have ever heard. Are you that sad? These are what you people talk about? Shlt, you people need help. No hope with the ladies.... You idolize a person for this? Christ the future is bleak if it's people like you.... Good help us all, it's just video games.....

Gribblegrunger, well said, nice to see things as they are. Some comments here really shame all gamers, of both stripes.... Bubble for you, from someone who prefers Xbox, but buys all consoles...
#1.2.5 (Edited 428d ago ) | Agree(4) | Disagree(9) | Report
SilentNegotiator  +   428d ago
You should care...since the Kinect is functionally ATTACHED the system.

Unless you don't care about the Xbox One itself.
Imalwaysright  +   428d ago
I don't want to hack kinect but this is MS telling us what we can or cannot do with our property. This is MS going after OUR rights AGAIN.
onyoursistersback  +   428d ago
Now, you have to pay. The likelihood that the same awesome homebrewed artistic applications for Kinect 1 — the ones that made it a viral phenomenon and brought a ton of good press to Microsoft — will be developed for Kinect 2 is now basically nil. That’s the issue here.
slazer101  +   428d ago
Correct me if i am wrong but once there patent runs out on the kinect technology won't third parties be able to develop for it without MS permission? I don't know, that's why i am asking.
greenlantern2814  +   428d ago
Unless they renew their patent.
Utalkin2me  +   428d ago
You have a patent for 5 years. And it is very very rare to get a patent renewal.
fermcr  +   428d ago
Honestly... it looks like Microsoft is intentionally trying to make the X1 fail.
MRMagoo123  +   428d ago
I really honestly dont think they need to try.
Elit3Nick  +   428d ago
I don't understand the negative response to this, the kinect is MS's product, they are simply preventing people from hacking it like they try to prevent people from hacking the xbox.
Utalkin2me  +   428d ago
Then why so expensive for the SDK kit for PC?
Elit3Nick  +   428d ago
Because it also contains the software necessary for the kinect to be implemented for developers.
ziggurcat  +   428d ago
once hackers get their hands on an xbone, they'll be able to hack it anyways, so...
WolfOfDarkness  +   428d ago
Shamefully done by M$ .
GribbleGrunger  +   428d ago
I'd call this spin to be honest. People keep talking about maximising profits as if that's the only possible reason. And yes, the PC version of Kinect is more expensive, giving MS a better revenue stream from enthusiasts. But the one thing that I'm seeing overlooked here (and probably because people just want to be negative) is the fact people were worried that others could hack the Kinect and spy on you. For me, this is why MS have done this. It makes it more difficult for such a scenario.

I'm a Sony fan just trying to keep it real
#1.8 (Edited 428d ago ) | Agree(16) | Disagree(4) | Report | Reply
vikingland1  +   428d ago
@GribbleGrunger
That's a good point about spying.
#1.8.1 (Edited 428d ago ) | Agree(4) | Disagree(1) | Report
Captain Qwark 9  +   428d ago
My bad, I hit disagree but meant agree. Everyone on the net just complains about everything ms. If they fuck up, they complain. If they fix it, they complain. If they take a step in the right direction, they complain.
Hicken  +   428d ago
That was a stronger point when the system needed a frequent connection. Now that the system no longer needs that, the spying issue is really rather irrelevant(not that it couldn't still happen, but it's far less likely).
GribbleGrunger  +   428d ago
@Hicken: Regardless of that dact, it makes sense for MS to put peoples minds at rest on such an issue. Come on people, you all know by now where my loyalties are (although I consider that an odd word to use to be honest) but we can't just shoe-horn every damned piece of MS news into a negative category. It devalues anything we say when we DO have what we consider a legitimate gripe.
ShwankyShpanky  +   428d ago
Apple likes to keep things proprietary too.
http://www.cnn.com/2013/06/...
#1.8.5 (Edited 428d ago ) | Agree(3) | Disagree(0) | Report
slazer101  +   428d ago
@GribbleGrunger. I agree with your logic about MS reasons for making it more difficult for hackers. But one issue I think people over look is that they should not be worried about MS spying on you but the American government. All data if any they keep from the kinect can be subpoenaed by the secret court of the NSA under the Patriot Act. I don't think MS would spy on there customers. But the US government would. All they have to do is label you a terrorist. And yes I live in the US. If anyone thinks it could not happen is naive.
#1.8.6 (Edited 428d ago ) | Agree(4) | Disagree(5) | Report
pimpschitz  +   428d ago
I am getting tired of these articles, everything MS does is just stupid. PS4 all the way, give me FF15, GT6, GTA 5, The Last of Us, Destiny and I'm set.
YNWA96  +   428d ago
When PS3 was hacked, Sony threatened all out war on hackers. MS simply say Kinect is not an open unit no more. You tell me which is more evil? Oh, but Microsoft is pure evil, I get it with you loser fanboys...
HugoDrax  +   427d ago
Exactly! Just like Sony fanboys say "Screw MS give me Destiny" hilarious how all of a sudden Bungie is such a great company, but if Destiny was MS exclusive Sony fanboys wouldn't care for it lol. Fanboys are such a joke lol.
CrossingEden  +   428d ago
wait wait, so not allowing hackers to hack your device is what passes as embarrassing, they don't want random people hacking it and made it more accessible -_- wow, so terrible
CRAIG667  +   428d ago
How exactly, if anything it's to make sure every tom, dick and harry don't exploit kinect for inappropriate uses.
#1.12 (Edited 428d ago ) | Agree(1) | Disagree(1) | Report | Reply
TBONEJF  +   428d ago
It's too late anyway what's the point when everyone got SOO TICKED off at them with their expensive price tag THEY don't support USED GAMES
Cueil  +   428d ago
this article is effing stupid... the connection on the Kinect 2.0 for the Xbone isn't USB 3.0 that 399 is for the Kinect 2.0 for Windows with the SDK software... people are stupid
TAURUS-555  +   428d ago
wow...RIP xboox1
BrunoM  +   428d ago
It looks like gamer input and people in general actually did make Microsoft change a lot when it comes to their policies and how they go about them ..

Good!
-SIXAXIS-  +   428d ago
Yeah it made them change their used game policy, but they just restricted smaller developers even more than before by denying them access to Kinect...
Cueil  +   428d ago
no... this is all bs
1trillindividual  +   428d ago
I think they want somebody to hack it, then give them a job to learn how to use it or make it better, the government does stuff like this all the time. Even Google paid somebody 1M to hack it so they can make their services better
EPiCDiNGO  +   428d ago
I am so upset that Microsoft are doing this. I will not support this company any longer and I have been a 7 year member of Xbox live and play the console almost daily.
maniacmayhem  +   428d ago
Why are you upset? Did you plan on hacking the new Kinect?
#3.1 (Edited 428d ago ) | Agree(30) | Disagree(19) | Report | Reply
vikingland1  +   428d ago
The down side is since Kinect comes with every Xbox One Hackers won't buy Xbox One. Just kidding I think MS has the right to protect their investment that they paid for.
EPiCDiNGO  +   428d ago
It is not me who would be using the Kinect but the way they are not allowing third party developers to do things with it. Look at the iPhone when it come out with the basic applications it was nothing ground breaking imo and then once they allowed third party devs to release things on the app store only then did we start to developers making innovative applications to use the features of the phone.
InTheLab  +   428d ago
Without modders hacking things, there would be no L4D or Portal. MS should support the community that will bring new ideas to the platform instead of pumping out dance central and TV: The Game
Skate-AK  +   428d ago
Maybe he means the part about third-parties having to buy their license to make hardware for the machine again.
nirwanda  +   428d ago
I think it's just their attitude in general to small devs and other creative small scale projects,
This is how people learn to program at home or at uni.
Also if you want something unique it's usually to risky for a big dev to throw a big budget at so MS are stifling small unique games.
So while you may he may not be directly affected indirectly anyone who buys an xbone is.
maniacmayhem  +   428d ago
It's funny because I see nothing but hate towards Kinect and how everyone hates motion control games. But this is a big deal to people?

Developers will still be able to get the SDK and develop for the Kinect 2. MS is trying to put a cap on the hacking for it's new peripheral.

Simple as that.
Redempteur  +   428d ago
@maniacmayhem

Maybe , just MAYBE he has lot of USB periphericals that won't work on the xbone ?

If i'd had bought a 600$ sterring wheel and it wouldn't be compatible i'd be angry.
-SIXAXIS-  +   428d ago
@maniacmayhem: You're correct, but remember that the modding community is what made Kinect popular in the first place. By denying them access to the new Kinect, they're effectively cutting off their main source of new software ideas and innovation for the Kinect.

@Redempteur: What are you talking about? He never mentioned USB peripherals anywhere...
ScubbaSteve  +   428d ago
Shall we place bets in regards to how long it takes for the kinect to get hacked? In reality you might as well make it PC compatible because they're not going to stop the type of person who wants to develop kinect applications for PC.
gamertk421  +   428d ago
If stopping people from hacking their own product is the thing forcing you to leave, then good riddance.
Salooh  +   428d ago
I'm with you on this. Vita should be more open too. Why create something with so much potential and then just lock it -.- . It's just stupid. Therefore , I rather see vita hacked then see it in this condition. It's not like we are getting serious games in it. If it's hacked more people will buy it and enjoy it.

There is another way , they can take advantage of it by locking just the games and the security stuff. PS vita made mobile section which is great step to openness but i don't see any innovation in it. No programs :( . Vita can be much better then iphone. Same with kinect for who have interests in it. Kinect not for serious stuff though..
#3.4 (Edited 428d ago ) | Agree(0) | Disagree(2) | Report | Reply
MMEHTA  +   428d ago
Just to make thing's clear, MS is not restricting third part dev's they are restricting third party outfits meaning they will restrict those whom try to use the kinect motion sensor to build their own similar product which makes use of the kinect aspects. Similar to what was done during the OG kinect release
slutface  +   428d ago
M$ mind is so scattered. I have no words.
Ausbo  +   428d ago
this article is stupid. Not allowing the hacking of kinect doesn't mean more restrictions.

Bad title...............and not news.
Gamesgbkiller  +   428d ago
Not hacking is a restriction.
Ausbo  +   428d ago
ok. there is no reason to be upset about this. These articles are made just to bring the flock of sony fanboys into here to up the traffic to the site
hellvaguy  +   428d ago
Not hacking the OS on console is equally a restriction. Why is that protected?
Angeljuice  +   428d ago
@Ausbo

All your X360 Peripherals won't work on Xboxone. Some may work via a proprietary device made by Microsoft. That is the big issue in the article that has annoyed people more than the kinect anti-hacking protocols.

Try reading before blindly defending!
Urusernamesucks  +   428d ago
Its a necessary restriction, hacking is ilegal.

OT who the hell cares? No one wants to play shity moded kinect games.
#6.1.4 (Edited 428d ago ) | Agree(0) | Disagree(3) | Report
InTheLab  +   428d ago
Licenses are restrictions for not only hackers but small time devs.
badz149  +   428d ago
read this part from the article?
"Game Informer confirmed that current third-party systems, including custom controllers, simulation wheels, and even headsets, will not be usable through the Xbox One. Developers that are interested in creating compatible hardware must pay for a third-party license all over again"

Not just your 360's headset is unusable, every single accessories including official ones that worked for 360 will not be usable too on the Xbone! That is utterly absurd and ridiculous! That's how they are treating their consumers? Pathetic!!

How are those Forza enthusiast thinking now knowing that their expensive Fanatec wheel will not work on the Xbone for them to play Forza 5?

Calling this article stupid? The act of defending this anti-consumer decision by M$ is stupider IMO!
ltachiUchiha  +   428d ago
It seems like microsoft is really mad about having to change all their policies & now firing back at consumers in other ways. Just shows u how greedy this corporate is. I understand that this is a business but how many ways can give your consumers the middle finger is straight up shady.
Elit3Nick  +   428d ago
MS already confirmed that they are making an adapter for 360 headsets...
vikingland1  +   428d ago
Farther down in the article it says that there will be an adapter for headphones so hopefully they will do the same thing for all the other accessories. I'm not saying they will I'm hoping they will... I've noticed whenever a next gen of consoles comes out most accessories don't work from the previous gen. Some do but most don't.
NBT91  +   428d ago
Yep no reason for that at all, no way am I paying even more money on top of peripherals JUST to use them on Xbone when they work on everything else.
That said I'm sure most companies will get the new license and produce preferably cheap adapters.

Restricting Kinect hacking is at least a little reasonable. But this is silly.
andibandit  +   428d ago
@badz149

"How are those Forza enthusiast thinking now knowing that their expensive Fanatec wheel will not work on the Xbone for them to play Forza 5?
"

You do know that both MS and Sony have updated the protocol for game input devices so we get a better experience(Lower latency and so on) right?

How do you expect devices using a diffrent protocols to communicate, by magic???.
badz149  +   428d ago
^^^
So...you think THAT is the reason for MS to drop support of the Fanatec Wheel? Now somehow kinect or the new controller will be better than Fanatec wheel which is undoubtedly the best racing wheel for the 360? For god sake...wake the hell up dude!
ArmrdChaos  +   428d ago
So...people bitch about how Kinect will be watching them so MS tightens restrictions to prevent it. Now they will bitch that they don't have open access. These people don't need a console...what they need is medication.
#7 (Edited 428d ago ) | Agree(25) | Disagree(17) | Report | Reply
Stryfeno2  +   428d ago
Agree....I wish they made a pill for common sense. My IQ be dropping just by reading these ridiculous post.
Angeljuice  +   428d ago
I find that hard to believe, you didn't read the article I take it?
PositiveEmotions  +   428d ago
I agree man people complain about everything when it comes to xb1
Bzone24  +   428d ago
Lol. This is funny because it's true.
MRMagoo123  +   428d ago
@armrdchaos,positiveemotions,B zxone24 and stryeno2

You guys really need to actually read an article once in a while lol the complaints are mainly about the fact they will have to get new licences for hardware they make for the xbone like controllers and headsets and crap like that, its not just about the kinect blocking, maybe instead of jumping on the defense wagon try reading the friggin thing.
testerg35  +   428d ago
MRMagoo123, why don't you correct the PS3 fans here that are only talking about the Kinect?
ArmrdChaos  +   428d ago
I am well aware of what the article was about since I read the ENTIRE thing. My comment was directed at Kinect mainly because it has been the common theme lately to bitch about one of their policies and then when they correct it bitch about it again from another chosen angle. As far as the controller issue...it doesn't apply to me so excuse me for not picking up a pitchfork and participating.
Stryfeno2  +   428d ago
They did this because of hacking purposes.
unchartedxplorer  +   428d ago
Great. So I have to buy an adapter so I can use a third party headset on the x1? This is just like the wireless networking adapter all over again.
Bzone24  +   428d ago
You have to buy an adapter to use a third party headset that you bought for your Xbox 360 to use it on the Xbox One.
Shadonic  +   428d ago
Screw it there idiots, the hacking was THE ONLY THING that kept me believing in Kinect because where ever the market said kinect couldn't do Modders and Hackers proved them wrong and present great implementations for the device for gaming and non gaming.
Cmk0121  +   428d ago
Are people really mad they aren't allowing their tech to be hacked? Y'all are idiots I swear
MRMagoo123  +   428d ago
you are more of an idiot because you obviously didnt read the article and dont try to pretend you did because you comment here defending MS proves for fact you didnt.
UNGR  +   428d ago
A company that makes money wants to make the most money possible, and the people who don't even use the Kinect in it's other practicalities are the ones to complain? I will never understand the fanboys here.
gamer42  +   428d ago
"There’s no doubt that players who have spent hundreds (or perhaps even thousands) of dollars on their peripheral systems like a $600 Fanatec Forza Motorsport Elite steering wheel and or a $350 plug-and-play Foehammer Fightstick S7 will feel the sting knowing that the Xbox One won’t support any of it on top of their old games."

That just sucks.
Ausbo  +   428d ago
No current gen accessories work with either new consoles. Yeah it sucks, but both systems would cost more if they supported backwards compatibility of games and accessories
MasterofMagnetism  +   428d ago
Not true, the ps move is compatible with PS4 cam.
badz149  +   428d ago
Sony is yet to confirm about accessories
I doubt that they block most accessories from usable on the PS4. I think all bluetooth accessories will work just fine and with USB ports, I am sure that at least official wheels and sticks will work too. Can't imagine Sony dropping support for the awesome G25 and G27. Those are the best you can get on the market now and work for pc too.

But yeah, conformation from Sony is needed. I think I'll tweet Shuuhei Yoshida to find out.
Why o why  +   428d ago
All bluetooth headsets work. Move controller works, the only thing that I've not heard work is the ds3.

Stop grouping. I've had enough of that crap during the whole drm 'sony will too' fiasco and we ALL know how that turned out..smh

@Ungr....typical response from a loyal guy. I mean how can anybody complain about their headsets needing an adapter that isn't a fanboy. I make you right that those who dont care for kinect shouldn't care about the restrictions but this article isn't just about kinect now is it.
#13.1.3 (Edited 428d ago ) | Agree(9) | Disagree(2) | Report
Utalkin2me  +   428d ago
@Ausbo
I know Moves works and my Astro's works and my G27 racing wheel works and my logitech bluetooth keyboard works? Without needing any kind of attachment or adapter.

So you was saying?
#13.1.4 (Edited 428d ago ) | Agree(8) | Disagree(4) | Report
SilentGuard  +   428d ago
So basically MS is blocking people that actually want the Kinect from finding real uses for it.
whoyouwit04  +   428d ago
Do you what to use it? if not why the f@ck are you complaining.
RussellGorall  +   428d ago
"Do you what to use it"?

What does that mean?
Utalkin2me  +   428d ago
No they are not blocking. But you have to have a windows platform and use their specific software. So it is not plug n play like the last kinect. But the Kit is 399 for the windows platform.
#14.2 (Edited 428d ago ) | Agree(0) | Disagree(1) | Report | Reply
RussellGorall  +   428d ago
You are using Microsoft Logic.
InTheLab  +   428d ago
Those restrictions....particularly third party accessories like racing wheels is why no one takes racers on Xbox seriously...

As for the Kinect restrictions,hackers embarrassed MS with what what they accomplished vs. What MS did with Kinect.

Minority report, or Rise of Nightmares.
controllable wall art, or Steel Battalion..

MS continues to screw themselves...
Belking  +   428d ago
You fanboys go ahead with that crap. They just don't want it to be hacked. Thats something anyone would do for their product. Stupid article N4G. Who am i kidding? That's the norm around here.
Father__Merrin  +   428d ago
this is getting worse by the day, il never buy an xboxone
Kenshin_BATT0USAI  +   428d ago
I gotta say, there are far too many policy changes as of late from Microsoft. I honestly feel like they don't know what they're trying to do.

They should've stuck to their guns. IMO. If only because people at least 'understood' what their policies were before.
xActionBasturdx  +   428d ago
Yea not being able to use my fightsticks on xbox one does suck...well there goes $600.00 Down the drain hope the adapter isnt too expensive and does add any latency to the input
whoyouwit04  +   428d ago
You Sony fan boys are a f#cking trip, you were acting like because microsoft included kinect with every Xbox one it was a mortal sin. which means you didn't give a dam about kinect one way or another So, why the hell are you people 8itching when they change their policies to protect their investment.
Stryfeno2  +   428d ago
Because cocaine is one hell of a drug.
RussellGorall  +   428d ago
Way to stick up for the big guy.
GentlemenRUs  +   428d ago
Shooting ones foot... One statement at a time!
mydyingparadiselost  +   428d ago
This is a shame, almost all the compelling things that were done with Kinect v.1 were from people using it for various purposes through hacks (helping robots 3d model spaces, kinect attached to helicopters, etc).
ElementX  +   428d ago
The only thing I can't believe about this article is that people spend hundreds on a racing wheel and other periphs. If you really want to drive get in your car. Even if steering with a wheel is more realistic, you're still sitting still in your home playing pretending to be driving.
#23 (Edited 428d ago ) | Agree(1) | Disagree(4) | Report | Reply
No_Limit  +   428d ago
LOL, you Sony fanboys can spin anything into negative regarding the Xbox. So protecting their investment and not allowing hackers to hack the Kinect, which will result in better protection against potential spy gate, is a bad thing?

Man, my Sony Spiderman Blu Ray disc have protection in it, I can't hack it and make illegal copy out of it. Damn you Sony, you are anti-consumer. :0
Jamaicangmr  +   428d ago
OMG!
What the hell is going over at Redmond? You are already on shacky ground with customers now you burn devs?

Smh!
mippledipple  +   428d ago
I'm happy to see Microsoft is again setting tough standards for devs to live up to. We deserve it given how expensive games are.
Max-Zorin  +   428d ago
This generation..........
HumanAfterAll  +   428d ago
Before Microsoft announced this: PSSSH good luck having a Kinect that hackers can get into and spy on you with!

After Microsoft announced this: PSSSH Hackers can't get into the Kinect on spy on you? Well that's preposterous!

Literally how everyone is acting. SMH
No_Limit  +   428d ago
LOL, 100% agreed.

Watch, when MS decides to offer a Sku that is Kinect free, the spin will be something like this: "PSSSH now the Xbone is just like the Xbox360 with better graphics, MS did ANOTHER 180, they can't be trusted!"

LOL, this is getting out of hand.
#28.1 (Edited 428d ago ) | Agree(8) | Disagree(6) | Report | Reply
HumanAfterAll  +   428d ago
Haha! True that.

Truly it is getting absurd isn't it? Or they drop the price to $399 and people go

"Well now they are copying Sony! Screw you Microshaft!"

LOL
Good_news_every1   428d ago | Spam
CoLD FiRE  +   428d ago
The same people on N4G who almost launched campaigns that called for the death penalty for GeoHotz when he hacked the PS3 are now complaining that MS is trying to employ anti-hacking measures to their own hardware!
Magnus  +   428d ago
With all the security and the rules Microsoft drops for the Kinnecr someone always finds away around it. I wouldn't be surpirsed if someone had the new Kinnect hacked to do something with an Android phone next year.
airgangstarr  +   428d ago
ill be sooo happy when there done with the stupid kinect things pointless
jeffgoldwin  +   428d ago
and touchpads too. pointless gimmicks.
#30.1 (Edited 428d ago ) | Agree(3) | Disagree(6) | Report | Reply
Godmars290  +   428d ago
You mean Smartglass?

@CoLD FiRE:
No. Just like motion control, touchscreens are the new gimmick no one really knows what to do with as they hype it endlessly.
#30.1.1 (Edited 428d ago ) | Agree(0) | Disagree(3) | Report
CoLD FiRE  +   428d ago
How dare you call touchpads "pointless gimmicks"? They're the epitome of gaming innovation because... I don't know...Sony!
« 1 2 »

Add comment

You need to be registered to add comments. Register here or login
Remember
New stories
40°

Ep. 23 - PSN Hacked Again | Gamerscore Whores Podcast

7m ago - In this week's episode we discuss: - What we've been playing - PSN monthly free games - Amazon... | Xbox
30°

Sword Art Online: Hollow Fragment (Vita) Review - Push Square

1h ago - Push Square: "Sword Art Online: Hollow Fragment is let down by its desire to stick too closely to... | PS Vita
30°

Will Valve End The ACCC Lawsuit Peacefully?

1h ago - With all the fuss over the ACCC suing Valve, what if Valve really just ended it all up by impleme... | PC
20°

Interview with Thijmen Bink of ‘Metrico’

1h ago - An interview with the CEO and Tech Director of Digital Dreams who answers questions on 'Metrico'. | PS Vita
Ad

Need Cash? (US Only)

Now - How would it feel to have your money struggles solved by this time tomorrow? We give fast loans from $100-$10,000+, and repayment terms up to 60 mo... | Promoted post
40°

Interstellar Marines Hands-on Impressions|Gaming Enthusiast

2h ago - Greg Bargas of Gaming Enthusiast takes on the Steam Early Access title, Interstellar Marines.... | PC