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Submitted by doctorstrange 765d ago | news

CCP CEO: PS4′s 8GB GDDR5 RAM “to be Important in the Future”, “Hugely Exciting”

Leading up to the PS4′s February reveal, leaks and rumors suggested that the console would include 4GB of GDDR5 RAM, and that’s because, until just before the announcement, that was the plan. - PSLS (CCP Games, PS4)

acharlez  +   765d ago | Well said
MOAR RAM!
Sev  +   765d ago | Funny
I've got a fever, and the only prescription is more RAM.
TrendyGamers  +   765d ago
That must be a really weird fever.
xHeavYx  +   765d ago
But.. But, da powa of da clouds!!
"I’m getting personally very excited for the PlayStation 4. For all the softballs Microsoft is throwing [Sony's] way, they’re knocking them out of the park. "
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ajax17  +   765d ago
Said all the developers!
iliimaster  +   765d ago
lol classic my main man classic!
onyoursistersback  +   765d ago
Troll comment...
@ trendygamers, ....
"Ten out of ten XboxOne only owners suffer from year to year..."
BISHOP-BRASIL  +   765d ago
If it is this kind of RAM
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Or this kind
http://www.nflteamhistory.c...

I can completelly understand that!
GentlemenRUs  +   764d ago
Here's yer RAM!

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thereapersson  +   764d ago
Baaaa RAM Ew!
Polysix  +   764d ago
Your fever is well catered for with Sony then!

BTW Microsoft have no Cow-Bell, but they sure as hell have plenty of Bull-shit!
Lior  +   765d ago
What is exciting is my 32gb 3000MHz Vengeance ram
a08andan  +   765d ago
Please give an example of what you would use 32gb for :)
Lior  +   765d ago
@a08andan rendering, games etc.
paranoid1971  +   765d ago
So, you're saying you paid $3000 for ram? That is just retarded
http://www.corsair.com/memo...
a08andan  +   765d ago
No game in existence requires that amount of RAM. And as far as rendering goes, do tell exactly what kind of rendering you do that require that amount of RAM. I'm sorry if it sounds like I am accusing you of something, but I try to work against the industries false pretense that you need the latest and greatest in everything to enjoy gaming.
MysticStrummer  +   765d ago
Are PC gamers incredibly insecure before they become PC gamers, or are they made that way by gaming on PC?
Angeljuice  +   765d ago
Film rendering takes lots of RAM, I use a total of 96gb in my workstation (32gb GDDR5 and 64 GB DDR4 + quadro & tesla cards). You can render a 4k feature length film in hours when a top notch gaming rig would take days or even weeks to do the job. No use for that much RAM in gaming though.
JOLLY1  +   764d ago
I use 64 gigs of RAM It isn't as fast as his.. but I use it for 3ds Max. More RAM faster renders.
WeedyOne  +   764d ago
To be fair a lot of the really good looking mods made for games like Skyrim and GTA require a large amount of ram to work well. Also if you are into making games on your computer it helps to have a shit ton of RAM so that you can make the game and run it before optimizing for better performance.
Kidmyst  +   764d ago
I have 8 GB Ram in my rig and it's plenty fine and plays on max settings, Could do much more but games aren't using that so it'd be a waste. But if you got the money, buy it
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Kleptic  +   764d ago
available ram is meaningless without a cpu/apu that can handle instructions that quickly...my motherboard can accept up to 64gb of system ram, but the socket will never fit an apu that needs that much...by the time chips are powerful enough, they'll have changed the socket...again...and none of that will matter...

but available ram can help immensely with poor optimization...something that definitely plagues pc gaming to this day...

point being...for modern pc gaming, there is a definitive line of 'not enough' versus going uselessly to the other extreme...16gb of OC ram right now, with a 2GB DDR5 equipped dedicated gpu could handle nearly everything...32gb of OC ram would be overkill, but 32gb of cheaper 1600mhz would be better than 16gb...64 of any ram, is useless on gaming, it'll never get touched...
PurpHerbison  +   764d ago
Some people use their PCs for work where extra RAM might be needed. It's not uncommon at all.
HD_GAMER1989  +   764d ago
funny thing is gddr5 in the ps4 is still faster then you're ridiculously overclocked, overpriced vengeance ram....0_o but keep trolling you might catch something by the time xbox one overheats or underperforms this holiday season. " I say good day " Fezz oh and at above the only reason that much ram would be needed would be for gaming on 6 sreens while downloading terabytes of gay porn, while simultaneously converting the gay porn from mkv to mp4, because its easier to watch gay porn on the iphone 5 while attempting to troll console gamers on n4g. lol

ps4 and a gaming pc can get along you know right. 30 ps4 exclusives say hi ;)
nirwanda  +   764d ago
@hdgamer I think you need to do a bit of research on latency to find out which ram is faster for a cpu
HD_GAMER1989  +   764d ago
yeah i was just making a joke.I have heard of the latency issue, but i do believe sony has done something to minimize that; however sony could prove my belief wrong next gen, unlike some fanboys i will admit sony isnt exempt from making fluff promises. Ill never forget how sonys bold promise for the ps3 ability to run games at 1080p ruined lair for me :(:(they tried to make it 1080p and the frame rate and screen tearing made the game unplayable for me. i still wish they make a remake on ps4 or lair 2 awesome concept and an awesome game when you minus sixaxis and lock the framerate to 30fps or up. im a pc gamer and a sony gamer. As i think the possibiltys of the new architecture of a modified apu sharing gddr5 is interesting and could provide a unique experience i dont believe the ps4 is better then a $3000 gaming computer on paper. when it comes down to it its all about the sony exclusives, doesnt matter how good you're pc is you wont be able to play them, which is why i will be supporting both next gen.
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MizTv  +   765d ago
MORE POWER!!!!
Panthers  +   765d ago
5 BILLION TRANSISTORS!!!!!
threefootwang  +   764d ago
Cloud trumps all!!!!!....Said no one ever
Zephyrus_808  +   764d ago
I'm excited about what the PS4 will be capable of but I don't want a repeat of this generation - The quality of multiplatform games being held back by inferior hardware. It's sad thinking about how much better some games could've been if they had remained exclusive, or if the 360 wasn't as weak as it was.
JamieL  +   764d ago
Nope, and I really don't see how that's relevant. I was talking strictly about fanboy defensive or aggressive statement’s, not what the cell has or has not done. This is just about N4G conversation's. I don't even know enough about tech to tell you what the cell even does well. I'm just talking about argument's made on N4G.

Example, this gen it was all about “The power of the Cell”, this coming gen it’s about “8GB of GDDR5 RAM“, and that’s just how it is.
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JamieL  +   764d ago
Just like "the Cell" right?
ZBlacktt  +   764d ago
Have you even looked up what all the PS3 with it's Cell have done aside from gaming? Talking real world events.

http://phys.org/news1491925...

http://blog.tmcnet.com/blog...

http://blog.us.playstation....

http://www.computerworld.co...

http://www.japanator.com/ci...

There's even more if you like?
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titletownrelo  +   764d ago
Its sad though because SONY is giving Devs more Ram, but M$ is forcing third party developers to hold back on the potential of the PS4 so the Xbox One doesn't look bad. :P

M$, why do you deny us GREATNESS?
hellvaguy  +   764d ago
Always "the others guys fault" mentality.
dontbhatin  +   764d ago
Ive always heard about this with the 360 and PS3 but i never saw any link proof for it. Im really curious. Do you have any proof?
Hicken  +   763d ago
hellvaguy's response is typical of fanboys who can't accept their company as ever doing wrong, but who've also got NOTHING concrete to argue in their favor. I mean, it's pretty common knowledge by now that MS forced parity on multiplats.

Does anyone really believe that's gonna change?
maniacmayhem  +   763d ago
@Hicken

Mind telling us which game MS forced parity on?

I mean since it is common knowledge.
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titletownrelo  +   763d ago
@hellvaguy and dontbhatin

well here you guys go
http://www.escapistmagazine...
maniacmayhem  +   763d ago
Hey titletownrelo, mind telling us which game(s) MS forced parity for?

Do you have a link for that?

I mean, to me it just looks like a Sony exec talking crap about MS. Lord forbid if MS said anything about Sony and this site would be up in arms with pitchforks and torches on how MS are crybabies and unprofessional.
dbjj12088  +   765d ago
I've got such a huge boner for GDDR5 RAM, guys.... you don't even know.
doctorstrange  +   765d ago
I can confirm this.
Cam977  +   765d ago
I can confirm that your confirmation is confirmed.
Angrymorgan  +   765d ago
You can confirm his boner ???
cpayne93  +   765d ago
Trust him. He's a doctor.
GameOn  +   765d ago
He just likes to play Doctor.
Sarobi  +   765d ago
But a Doctor nonetheless.
threefootwang  +   764d ago
I can confirm that your confirmed confirmation has been confirmed.
NarooN  +   764d ago
I can confirm that this is one crazy-ass thread. O_O
adorie  +   765d ago
Wow... *jumps out of the window*
VonBraunschweigg  +   765d ago
I can confirm this.

Can we get a doctor!
devwan  +   765d ago
Don't worry, the magical power of the cloud will cushion your fall.
RandomDude655  +   765d ago
I just saw a Titan fall.
Sevir  +   765d ago
Lmaooo this Thread is Live!
Bubbles for everyone for making me laugh... Lol
ATi_Elite  +   765d ago
GDDR5 is so OLD, I can't wait for GDDR6 in 8 months!
DragonKnight  +   764d ago
GDDR5, which is unavailable for commercial sale, is "old" to you and so you are going to wait 8 months for more RAM that you can't buy? Logic.
NarooN  +   764d ago
LOL! Was gonna say the same thing, +bubs.
WorldGamer  +   765d ago
This makes sense. I have seen a lot of people talk about the ram that the X1 uses as being sufficient, but they are not looking at the bigger picture.

Through the console generation, games will only become more demanding on the system resources, this move by Sony that might be seen by some as overkill, will most likely give the PS4 the longevity over the long run.

Smart move by Sony.
clearelite  +   765d ago
Wait 3-4 years when devs like naughty dog really START to push the ps4 to its limits. The results will be phenomenal graphics and gameplay. We can expect them to get better and better with time as devs work specifically with the PS4 hardware and learn to get the most out of it.
The winners are us gamers fortunately and I'll be preordering a PS4 because I expect some of the best exclusive games.
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imt558  +   765d ago
Not 3-4 years. I think a little earlyer, about 1 year.:) Waiting Uncharted 4.
hellvaguy  +   764d ago
I wouldnt be so sure on that ram being such a huge factor. My gaming pc has never gone over 4gb ddr3 for 1080p. And thats with using windows 7 which is a much greater resource hog than console os. But we'll see.
Godmars290  +   765d ago
And supposedly MS's solution is to rely on cloud computing. On online support.

If a game absolutely needs that support to function, then offline systems wont be able to play it.
Kleptic  +   764d ago
offline and onboard get along nicely...and can seamlessly switch to online when preferred...

offline and 'cloud' hate each other...not that the cloud will ever do anything useful for real time gaming any time soon...

I just summed up the next generation entirely...
Clarence  +   764d ago
It's just like when Sony decided to go with bluray.
Daz  +   765d ago
Its 7 gb, 1 gb for os

BUt it still great that sony got hold of 8gb GDDR5 of ram. Good work on there part.
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mushroomwig  +   765d ago
For the price it's pretty incredible.
devwan  +   765d ago
And a more streamlined OS free from such things as TV management bloat etc. is using just 1GB of... super fast memory. That's not a bad thing from any angle.
tuglu_pati  +   765d ago
I'm guessing Sony will lock more than 1 gb of ram for OS (2-3 gb of ram) , it would be the smart thing to do, in case they want to add more features in the future.

They can always make that ram available for games but not for now, they need to reserve some ram for future features upgrades.
wolokowoh  +   765d ago
The features they would would not justify reserving a whole GB of RAM. Windows 7(you know the good one) only uses 1 GB of RAM and it's capable of nearly anything you want to do. I doubt Microsoft will use much more than a GB and they're building in connect and running three separate OS's.
tuglu_pati  +   765d ago
@wolokowoh

agree.

But i still think it's smart to reserve at least 2 gb at the beginning just in case, then unlock them for games later in the console cycle if its not used for anything else.
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BitbyDeath  +   765d ago
Don't think it's required since they are used FREEBSD9 which only requires a small amount of RAM to run.

http://n4g.com/news/1289136...

ie. They likely have plenty of reserves already with just the 1GB.
DeadlyFire  +   764d ago
The OS they are using uses very little RAM. 1 GB is more than enough. I wouldn't be to surprised if they said the OS could run on the PS3.
PurpHerbison  +   764d ago
@DeadlyFire

I am pretty sure it would lag on the PS3. The new PS Store even has a rough time transitioning smoothly while you navigate through it.
JohnS1313  +   765d ago
I agree with this. As developers start pushing the hardware the GDDR5 RAM will be a huge advantage for the PS4. The better the RAM the better the games will look and run. No cloud garbage will solve that problem.
Rowdius_Maximus  +   765d ago
Cannot wait for the PS4 it will be sick!

PC>4>U>1
Rowdius_Maximus  +   765d ago
Don't think it will be sick guys?

Edit: In Murica' sick means awesome

Edit Again: @theWB27 nonsense?
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theWB27  +   765d ago
The disagrees probably have something to do with the PC>4>U>1 nonsense.
DragonKnight  +   764d ago
theWB27 is correct. The disagrees (I didn't disagree or agree myself) are most definitely from the fact that you put the PC first and/or the 1 last.
Hercules189  +   764d ago
why do ppl agree that u is better than 1, it is severely underpowered compared to one, and on this site that means it has got to be the worst console of all time.
Hicken  +   763d ago
Probably based on the fact that Nintendo is likely to do a much better job supporting it than MS will support the XBO.
Hazmat13  +   765d ago
if naughty dog remade Last Of Us for PS4 like upgraded everything. you have no idea how fast i will give them my money. im also getting Metro Last Light on PS4 cause i may own it already its a still a collection i want on my PS4
Rowdius_Maximus  +   765d ago
Yeah, upgrade the graphics, AI, and just overhaul the game and rerelease a GOTY edition on the PS4 would be great!
devwan  +   765d ago
I wouldn't bet against something like this already being in the pipeline.
stuntman_mike  +   765d ago
They are going to make 2 more games in the last of us series so i bet the next one will be on ps4.
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SpinalRemains138  +   764d ago
why do you say that? Have you heard a rumor somewhere or read an insider leak?
stuntman_mike  +   764d ago
@spinalremains138

I think i might of read a rumour a while back but i believe they will. Especially how popular the game is...
Npugz7  +   765d ago
Doubling the Ram was Sonys best move!!!
Rowdius_Maximus  +   765d ago
And never planning DRM and online check-in ^_^

4>1

GDDR5>DDR3

7GB>5GB

PS4>XBone
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BabyTownFrolics  +   764d ago
Rowdius while I agree with the points you are conveying the way you convey them is annoying as hell
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DragonKnight  +   764d ago
@edonus: Exactly what part of Rowdius_Maximus' post is a lie?

The PS4 uses GDDR5, the Xbox One uses DDR3. Fact.
The PS4 will have 7 of 8GBs of that RAM available for games, the Xbox One will have 5GBs available. Fact.

So what part of that is a lie? Do you have any links that show that MS put GDDR5 in the X1 or is using more than 5GBs for games?
MasterCornholio  +   765d ago
There were a ton of rumors that the PS4 initially had 4 GB of ram but then they upgraded it.

I am so happy that they did though because now there wont be any ram issues between ports.
reko  +   765d ago
Cool :D
PositiveEmotions  +   765d ago
Awesome i wonder how infamous second son will look like when is in gold status
RandomDude655  +   765d ago
Like hot sex
PositiveEmotions  +   765d ago
Wow bro lol just wow
ElementX  +   765d ago
As if you'd know...
Cryptcuzz  +   765d ago
He would know, he is really Mandingo and he is correct!
LE  +   765d ago
My question is, is the WiiU still considered next gen, or current-gen.5?
MasterCornholio  +   765d ago
Well i dont mean to offend any Wii U owners but i personally consider it on par with 7th gen consoles while the 8th gen consoles are a separate group composing of the PS4 and the XBOX One.
CalamityCB  +   765d ago
I hope they can do alot with this, hopefully in the future and after release we wont be seeing any heat problems caused by the GDDR5, e.g. during PS4 E3 conference with AS:4 and destiny having a few slip-ups.
Cryptcuzz  +   765d ago
I wouldn't be too worry about that. I think the demo hiccups for AS:4 and Destiny is more do to it being an early build or a rushed demo put together to meet E3 deadlines.

I believe GDDR5 memory produces less heat then DDR3.
WeedyOne  +   764d ago
Actually the freezes had nothing to do with bugs or early builds... It had to do with people in the background playing the game while the people on stage were also playing and sometimes they would cut back and forth thus the appearance of freezes.

This article explains it all!

http://www.flesheatingzippe...
josephayal  +   765d ago
Japan is reputed to be one of the most technologically advanced nations, and the PS4 is no exception
S2Killinit  +   765d ago
I'm just somebody is focused on gaming.
knifefight  +   765d ago
I'm not sure if I understand this post.
S2Killinit  +   765d ago
lol sorry, sometimes it omits words, i don't know if this happens to others as well or its just me. I mean to say "im just glad somebody is focused on gaming"
knifefight  +   765d ago
Ah, haha. Yes, now I get it. Thanks! ^_^
fredrikpedersen  +   764d ago
I omit words all time :-)
creized1  +   765d ago
I was so suprised and stunned when they announced 8GB of RAM.
Not even a PC game uses so much RAM, almost all ofthem use 4GB max.
Having 8GB in the PS4 is huge because in the future we will see games advance more and more as the technology progress
Virtual_Reality  +   765d ago
Now they can make DUST 514 on PS4 with the full potential of Unreal Engine graphics.
OSIRUSSS  +   765d ago
They could have used that RAM making Dust514 that game is lagged out mess!
MysticStrummer  +   765d ago
I didn't like the game much, but lag was never a problem for me.
JayD-1K  +   764d ago
I would like a M.A.G. for this gen too!
fredrikpedersen  +   764d ago
Oh yes! MAG is a great shooter. So under-appreciated.

Zipper closed tho!
Cryptcuzz  +   765d ago
With that much GDDR5 memory in the PS4, I am excited to see some super high-res textures in its games. It probably won't be like that at launch since developers barely knew of the bump to 8 GB GDDR5 at E3 2013, but give it a year or two and the likes of Naughty Dog, SSM and Polyphony Digital will surely flex their muscles with the available high bandwidth memory.

I read somewhere that Capcom's Deep Down teaser trailer was real time. If that is the case, I wonder if Sony had let them know ahead of time that the memory would be 8 GB GDDR5 because of how high-res the textures in that trailer is.
My_Outer_Heaven  +   765d ago
I hope that a lot of developers really push the hardware capabilities with PS4 and hopefully in time the benefits of GDDR5 will start to show and make Xbox One games look very inferior in comparison. The first batch of games usually aren't as visually stunning as the ones that come out later on in cycles. I'm still surprised how far they push PS3. Last gen games were mostly around the 720p resolution so hopefully more games on next gen consoles will support full HD.
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Thomper  +   764d ago
I'm interested to now what home systems you fan-bots are using to fully appreciate your 8g's of GDDR5 Ram?
reborn1213  +   764d ago
to be fair..what home sysytem are using that's fully utilizing your 8gb of ddr3? if your using a PC kinda hard to compare pc's to consoles. not really a fair comparison.
Thomper  +   764d ago
50" Panasonic 3D plasma, Yamaha amp and Monitor Audio speakers (7.1)

Or 50" Sony LCD, Sony amp and Yamaha speakers

Oh, and I will also be getting a ps4 on day 1
reborn1213  +   764d ago
you know a lot people forget that it's not actually 8GB GDDR5 against 8GB DDR3, It's actually 7GB GDDR5 against 5GB DDR3. X1 uses 3GB DDR3 for the OS, ps4 uses 1GB GDDR5 for the OS. so if some people try to downplay the signifigance, look at the actuall comparison. that is significant

Now, let's be realistic, this will probably be for 1st party games. 3rd party games will be pretty close and not really stretch out the system since they must be comprable.

However, you can update software pretty easily, but not hardware. so once you use all 5 gb of ram in the x1 it's it. the ps4 I would say is more future proof since it's has more of a ceiling with better ram to work with. of course just as with the ps4 it will take a few years to push the system. Even the ps3 is still pushing it's limits.

And no, I didnt forget about that stupid cloud BS. it's BS and sony has the option of using it as well. But that's just my opinion. I think both systems will have good games, but looking at the facts, I believe the ps4 has a better ceiling. and don't even come at me with fanboy crap I have 2 xboxes (had 3 rrod) and 1 ps3, I'm just a gamer looking at things logically,
hellvaguy  +   764d ago
The low to mid components of consoles will bottleneck long before either type of 8gb ram would be a factor.
Cryptcuzz  +   764d ago
They are games console not a PC where low level to the metal API's are not allowed. You can thank MS for not allowing that through DirectX on PC.

Whereas on game consoles, low level API's are available to take full advantage of their components.
DivineAssault  +   764d ago
8GB of ram is going to make the exclusives continue to shine for years after xbone has hit its limit.. Cloud computing may kick in on both sides but im sure PS4 will be the best console to invest in for nx gen
Jury  +   764d ago
Thanks randy pitchford
fOrlOnhOpe57  +   764d ago
@Jury
I can agree with that,especially as a big Borderlands fan. Though I can understand why so many gamers here wouldn't want to give him any credit.
Jury  +   764d ago
Well he told Sony they need to go with 8gig or they're done. Glad he did and glad they listened. I haven't played borderlands but I loved brothers in arms series
FlunkinMonkey  +   764d ago
This is a fun thread.. The lack of MS fans here is astonishing, i guess there isn't much to say. ahh and breath.
wishingW3L  +   764d ago
when did Ram became a more important part to gaming than the GPU? I think this is just marketing to make people excited for weak next-gen consoles.
Polysix  +   764d ago
If anything MORE ram will enable much better games from a gameplay/environment perspective than just a good GPU would! With so much ram you can do stuff beyond the wildest dreams of last gen!! With a stronger GPU you can just basically get better graphics/faster performance. They are both vital but RAM is where you'll see bigger persistent cities and better AI etc in games (for example) coming from.

PS4 is a well balanced system! They had costs to consider too of course so could hardly build it around a GTX 780 level GPU (unless you wanted say 256mb ram lol)
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swerve121  +   764d ago
Having the 32mb SRAM ram to help speed up the 8 gigs of DDR3 ram and the CPU/GPU all working together and it will perform at a lower latency.

From: Me3X12 on IGN

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