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Let’s talk about the Xbox Live Cloud

Jon Shirin:I’m an engineer working with the Cloud technology that you’ve heard about for Respawn’s game Titanfall. I have seen a lot of confusion online and I think it’s worth explaining more about what we’re doing on Titanfall and also more generally about Cloud computing and dedicated servers.

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NYC_Gamer1129d ago (Edited 1129d ago )

This article should answer peoples questions on how Cloud is working for Respawn

HammadTheBeast1129d ago

All I saw was a list of why player hosted servers suck and why dedicated servers are great.

Where is the whole "10 Xbox One's in one CLOWDD!" stuff?

YNWA961129d ago

Cloud computing starts when Sony says so.... Funny when people inside the fvckin industry tells you how it is, its BS, but total noobs, fanboys on both sides and whatever that have no idea, they believe in the shlt that they spew.... Funny.... Never seen such a bunch of idiots like I have the last few weeks.... You people even turning on Kojima.... Unreal....

FamilyGuy1129d ago (Edited 1129d ago )

So from what I'm getting is that Xbox's Cloud can be used as dedicated servers but it can also be used to offload some processing which frees up your console to not be downgraded while playing online.

Think of it like this:
You know how many games don't look as good when playing multiplayer in comparison to their single player campaigns? MSs Cloud fixes this.

When a server is hosting a game the computing is done on that server rather than needing your systems power to do all the processing. In the case of "The Cloud" that will still be true but those servers will have stronger processors than what is available on someone console and devs are able to feed it more applications as well allowing it to do extra stuff the console can't.

Console will be free to play the game at the best of its ability. The server (Cloud) will allow an overlay of extra abilities to be seen on your system.

It IS basically a glorified dedicated server. It can do more but it's not going to make your system "3 times as powerful". It lets you have more of your systems power and sends you extra things that the devs program it to show you. Forza is pretty much letting you play against an AI enhanced version of your friends ghost, another game might place smarter enemies on a battlefield than what your console could natively interpret.

HammadTheBeast1129d ago

DAMN the Xbox fan boys are in full force. Please, respond to my comment with proper arguments instead of bitching about people who like PS4 on N4G.

Lol. Delusional fan boys. Just last week they were telling us how amazing DRM was.

Pathetic.

georgeenoob1129d ago

You gotta admit, this is a HUGE advantage for developers and MS.

xHeavYx1129d ago (Edited 1129d ago )

It's an advantage for next-gen consoles, since Sony said they can do this too.

Look at the stealth disagrees, Why not disagree and explain yourselves? Some fanboys are just pathetic

creatchee1129d ago (Edited 1129d ago )

@xHeavYx

They theoretically can, but it would require them purchasing, maintaining, housing, connecting and coordinating an additional couple of hundred thousand servers. There's no way they'd have that kind of infrastructure up in the next couple of years, let alone at launch. Also, The One was built around the concept, where Sony would be tacking it on.

Edit: perhaps "tacking it on" isn't the best way to state it because it sounds negative and I don't want it to. Maybe "retrofitting"?

AngelicIceDiamond1129d ago (Edited 1129d ago )

@Heavy Sony can, but its not used directly to enhance gaming. But for storage, BC streams with PS4 and apparently PS2.

Its not used the same way as MS.

EDIT: @gaff

I agree it remains to be seen. We have to wait and see when the consoles launch.

But I disagree with the rest of your statement. "A pipedream" This pipe dream seems to hold some weight. There's just far too much info about the cloud to consider it "fake."

gaffyh1129d ago

@angelic - WTF are you talking about?? It remains to be seen on BOTH platforms! Saying 300,000 servers and 5 billion transistors means nothing until you actually see the results, and so far it looks like the "power of the cloud" on the Xbone is just dedicated servers. Guess what, dedicated servers have existed for games for YEARS on PC, and PS3 has had them for several games!

There's nothing new, cloud computing is a pipe dream until internet connections are actually fast enough. 5Mb/s isn't going to cut it for real cloud computing, you need much more than that.

HammadTheBeast1129d ago

Lol this is hilarious you guys are repeating BS that MS said in interviews and PR and you don't even know what it means LOL.

ANYTHING AND ANYONE CAN DO CLOUD COMPUTING. PC HAS HAD THIS STUFF SINCE 2003.

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Chaostar1129d ago (Edited 1129d ago )

I hear the infinite power of the cloud can cure cancer and pull kittens out of burning buildings. Also if the magical properties of the cloud were a part of gaming in 1996 that cheat to make Lara's clothes fall off in Tomb Raider 2 would have worked.

Seriously though this article did clear a few things up. Like that there won't be dedicated servers for ALL Xb One titles, the developers have to buy/rent them from MS.

Loki861129d ago

Honestly, why are you still allowed to post, nothing you say ever adds anything to the conversation, just mindless drivel.

There are so many links and proof I have posted and shown just completely tired of wasting my time. Wait a few years till devs program for this. You will be eating some serious crow.

Chaostar1129d ago (Edited 1129d ago )

Woah easy man, come on there's no law against making fun of PR statements on the internet... yet. What exactly did I say that upset you?

From the article:

"Most importantly to us, Microsoft priced it so that it’s far more affordable than other hosting options – their goal here is to get more awesome games, not to nickel-and-dime developers. So because of this, dedicated servers are much more of a realistic option for developers who don’t want to make compromises on their player experience, and it opens up a lot more things that we can do in an online game."

Much more of a realistic OPTION.

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darx1129d ago

What's funny is it almost sounds like the Cell processor all over again. The Cell can do this and the Cell can do that.

Chaostar1129d ago

Yeah, I've heard that comparison all over and it really does.

"powah of teh cell"

is now

"powah of teh cloud"

it's official (not official).

strifeblade1128d ago

but the cell gave us uncharted and last of us? maybe cloud can give us some amazing and unexpected- naughty dog came out of the blue this generation- maybemsybe msoft has something similar

AznGaara1129d ago (Edited 1129d ago )

Finally! It's sad how it took a 3rd party developer to clear things up instead of ... You know... The company who's actually making the console. -_-

"Let me explain this simply: when companies talk about their cloud, all they are saying is that they have a huge amount of servers ready to run whatever you need them to run. That’s all."
Like MS couldn't say that?

HammadTheBeast1129d ago

Well they have to make the specs of the Xbox One look good in comparison to PS4 somehow.

AngelicIceDiamond1129d ago

@Gaara Lol I agree, its pretty pathetic on MS part.

GiggMan1129d ago

Amen. Also notice how he was honest and didn't say anything about the cloud "magically" making your machine more powerful. Smarter AI is definitely a possibility but a more powerful system is not lol

GameCents1129d ago

All I'm hearing is, "I don't want it to be more powerful"

Elit3Nick1129d ago

I don't see why people are unable to believe that cloud processing exists, with Onlive ALL the processing power came from the cloud, not just certain tasks like Azure is doing...

GiggMan1129d ago

All I'm saying is bravo for him telling the truth and putting it into perspective. Microsofts cloud will be able to do some cool things like match making, smarter AI, scalability.

Increasing the power of the system, what MS want's you to believe, is false. Apparently they are doing a good job of convincing people it seems. I'm (well my son) is getting one and it's already been pre-ordered. I'm sure MS will sell plenty of them on merit alone. I just hate when companies resort to BS that's all.

GodGinrai1129d ago

@AznGarra

but when MS says this stuff the internet calls bull...people would have still wanted a specific number or found something else to moan about.

just saying

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Ashlen1129d ago

The cloud has already been in games. It's what they use to serve ads to you in games. And thats probably mostly what it will do next gen also.

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georgeenoob1129d ago (Edited 1129d ago )

@familyguy

If a platform can run games with better AI, better multiplayer experiences, and a lot more don't you think it makes the system more powerful?

AngelicIceDiamond1129d ago

So the 360 will have dedicated servers as well. I didn't know that actually.

That's really good to hear. Sounds like the experience will be smooth across all platforms.

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