While comparing PS4 and Xbox One price points, Wedbush analyst Michael Pachter says he expects an Xbox One's price drop after Christmas.
Well let's hope he's right. *smash* "WHO DA **** SAID DAT?!"
According to Pachter early buyer of XBone are fool.
I think it will be as soon as production is in full gear, and that could be from next february. IMOO the possibility of a $100 price cut in early 2014 is 50%, and the possibility is 90% in late 2014
@newmonday It could be happend late 2014, but as he says around christmas not possible. I think Pachter lost his mind.
i'll call it and you guys heard it here first, on gamescom MS is going to go out and say thy are sorry and going to announce that kinect is no longer a standard and also they are going to cut the price by at least 50$. and they say shit like we hear you and bla bla and say you can sell used games and rent and shit.and we'll see a spike in preorders and internet/xbox fanboys going crazy. while on sony's side we'll not see much of a reaction but lots of games to show.
Why would they drop the price less that 3 months after Release? That does not make since to me
@miztv - if they don't sell what they expected during launch, they will drop the price. How does that not make sense? They'll launch it at 499 even if preorder numbers are low, because there are a certain amount of people, the " fools" that Pachter is talking about, who will buy the console at whatever price.
@malol - I agree but xbone would have to be 50 dollars cheaper than ps4 based on weaker specs... Id pay 299 for an xbone and no more without kinect ... So im looking at 2014 and thats fine by me
but...after Christmas? like...a month after launch? is he dumb?
Well if Microsoft does this its to take advantage of the early consumers. But honestly if they want to reduce the price they would probably have to release an SKU with the Kinect which i believe will never happen since its an integral part of the system.
I doubt Microsoft would lower the price early after Christmas. Especially if people bought it at 500 dollars and a couple months down the line, they see it drop to 400. That would encourage buyers to wait a lot longer to buy something new from Microsoft since they rushed the price drop. Right now, they need to worry about getting people's trust back somehow. After that the best thing to do is create different bundles even though that's hard to think about. If games still need to be installed even after they removed that DRM, (the disc would be used as a key to activate those installed games) there's no way they can sell their system with lower gigs since Blu Ray will eat all of it up. The mandatory Kinect is what ruined the pricing for them. Maybe a slimmer version will be announced next E3 to give that impression that they're starting "all over" fixing their mistakes. Just my analysis but so far, PS4 seems to be far ahead. Microsoft has a lot of catching up to do against it's competition.
i don't think MS will cut the price, i think they will make a sku without kinect 2 for $399 either way i don't think its gonna help them world wide sales wise or in japan so the only market MS has going for them is USA, and even that is not where it should be for them after the success of xbox 360 i know atleast 4-5 friends who were xbox360 only and now aren't even thinking about xbox one, how could a company loose its fanbase outright? I think a lot of xbox fanboys are in for a very rude awakening, ps4 will outsell xbox one from day one and its not gonna be easy for MS to catch up since playstation brand is more liked/recognized world wide not to mention MS doesn't gain anything in japan MS you have till november to really deliver a clear message to your fanbase, ps3 was over priced and without games yet it still outsold xbox 360 from day one so now a lower priced ps4 with huge momentum isn't good news for MS
How did PS3 outsold Xbox 360 from day one? How old are you?
" ps3 was over priced and without games yet it still outsold xbox 360 from day one" You do realize that the 360 came out a full year before the ps3 right? So that would mean that Sony sold more systems day one <by your math> than MS in an entire year. Lol...silly fanboy. You don't even have to click the link just read what is says...27th consecutive month. http://www.vg247.com/2013/0...
Lets see this is what I meat and you do know what I was trying to say but just dot want to hear it Take Xbox 360's first year and half sales out and start from the day ps3 launched each month ps3 outsold the Xbox 360 in total world wide sales, that's is why ps3 passers Xbox 360 sales wise last year even thought it had one less year in US market and 1.5 years in Europe market So lets say Xbox 360 got to 75 million n 8 years Ps3 got to that number in 7
Finally something i can agree with pac, i hate this guy
he is right but it wont stop fanboys from buying an overpriced xbox one day one when theres a superior ps4 for cheeper.
I'll leave this right here. http://www.so.cl/#/post?i=1...
PS4 drops price by $50 to $350 XB1 will have to drop by $150 just to stay even. That could destroy their profits so I'm sure PS4 will always be cheaper.
Great idea, Pachter! Xbox fans totally AREN'T already upset (or at least, a bit distrustful) of Microsoft right now. The first thing they need to do is get all those early adopters and then cut $100 just a few months later as a way of saying "thanks for your loyalty!" That will surely win them over...
Why would they need to win over early adopters? They ALREADY bought their consoles at a premium price early on, hence why they're called "early adopters"? What would early adopters do if the price droped after Christmas? Take a hammer to their Xbox Ones (that they spent 500 bucks on) in protest?
Because the early adopters tend to be core gamers who purchase a lot of games not just at launch but even 5+ years down the line. It would be insanely bad business to tick them off right at the start of the gen.
I get what you're saying but if you think they wouldn't do it because it'd make their fans feel cheated then... well, any other time and I might had agreed because it seems like a low-blow to pull on fans. But after recent events? Yeah that totally seems like some BS they'd try to pull off. Hard to say that I hope it doesn't though because that would be like saying "I hope it doesnt go lower in price". Its a difficult slope. On one hand if it lowers for Christmas, hey, its cheaper, yay. On the other hand anyone who paid full price on preorders, these die-hard fans and loyalist are going to feel like they were taken advantage of. Though maybe they deserve it for supporting Xbox after all this nonsense...
I don't think they would but if they were to drop the price after Christmas the early adopters would more than likely get $100 cash back or free Live for a yr or something. It happened here in Australia when the Original Xbox came out. I paid $650 for it and not long after they dropped the price by $250. Everyone that paid full price got $250 worth of Xbox stuff back.
The question is, if fans think a price drop will happen a few months after launch will there be early adopters?
There will ALWAYS be early adopters. Even if these consoles were $999 they'd sell out day one.
Are you sure? MS was already forced to bendover once due to low pre-orders. What makes you think that consumers wouls gladly pay $999 for a console? Oh btw I remember seeing your comment on that Xbox one shun petition. How does that crow taste like?
@Imalwaysright You realize to some countries the PS3, when released, was actually MORE than a $1,000 right? Europe was one of them I believe.
If i had to drop a G-bar on a console i would definitely go PC, i don't care what games i miss out on. No way in hell i would ever pay that much for a console.
If you sell 10 million consoles at a $100 profit, that is indeed a billion dollars. But I'm willing to bet that if you drop the price by $50 and make a $50 profit off each console, you're going to accrue more than 20 million sales in return, which is a billion dollars right there. In any case, it will be very hard for Microsoft to make as much money as they could when Sony is sitting right there, with most of the same games, at $100 less. Price drop by Christmas? I guess it's possible, but I don't think Microsoft is going to see the fallout from their decision until it's too late for this particular holiday season. Next year, they'll undoubtedly drop the price if they know anything.
$100 profit? If kinect would've been optional, Xbox One would be at the same price as PS4. So it's not really $100 profit for MS, we got Kinect when we buy it, altough it's too bad it is a mandatory
Should be cheaper then the ps4 because the specs are alot worse... $350 would be ideal.
Pachter is right 60% of the time, every time.
He's the Sex Panther of analysts
That would be something. I wonder if they would go $50 or go to full $100. All speculation at this point.
I think that'd be kind of a dick move by MS to lower the price so soon after launch.
Nintendo did it with the 3ds, I wouldn't be surprised if Microsoft did it.
Very good point. Hopefully retailers will have a price guaruntee like Circuit City did back in the 90's.
That was 6 months after launch and because the vita came out at same price with better hardware and more features. This made consumers say WTF why does the 3D cost so much and it stalled out in sales so they dropped price andthen it picked up in sales. The majority of gamers have budgets and an idea of price versus perceived content value for them which dictates if they buy early and how much they are willing to spend. Only blind fanboys need zero logic with their purchasing decisions.
Microsoft are going to have to take a MASSIVE hit on the BONE to make it successful.They will likely lose $200 on every machine. This gen is looking like a disaster for them both financially and reputationally. Sony must be pinching themselves at the moment, this couldn't have gone better.
Sony took a massive lost with the ps3 and they are clearly in 2nd place regardless of the higher priced console.
And those weren't happy times for the company and neither were the first days of the Xbox for MS. Companies should and will do anything in their power to avoid such times of financial distraught.
MS makes 6 billion just last quarter, they can more than afford to take a hit
You dont understand business do you. MS have shareholders and they DO NOT TAKE HITS.
Like solid said public companies have investors and they would see a CEO fired if they intentionaly took a hit to game market share...investors dont care who owns the bulk of the market they only care if they lost or gained money.
I think MS will value add and not reduce price....Doesn't make sense to piss off early adopters in the first 3 months of next gen (any more than they have)?
MS are gonna have to suck it up cos they are coming a long 2nd place this time. They need to forget about competing with the PS4 and concentrate on bringing the games this time.
games or trust?
This guy thinks everything is going to happen everywhere, all the time, while at the same time nothing is going to happen anywhere, ever. He makes Nostradamus look like Hawkeye.
Not gonna happen. But that would be even one more reason to buy a PS4 over an bone this Christmas. Like we needed more.
SO.........Xbox One prices will increase after Christmas. You always do the opposite of what Pachter predicts
That man is an idiot. Why does any one post anything he says other then for the LOLs? Every time I read something he says I think to my self 'where can I get drugs that strong?'
So according to him, XB1's gonna be the higher-priced console throughout the Christmas season and lower the price after PS4's kicked it's ass all around the curb already? That'd be too late, I'd wager.
They need to take the financial hit because everyone knows Sony can drop a subscription based SKU and that would be curtains.
Patcher said this? It wont happen then
Two Months After Release? No Way.
Could happen, depends on how it sells early on I suppose. If they can compete with Sony at that price they might just introduce a new subscription option in 2014.
It would be silly to lower it after Christmas, most stores offer a price guarantee until January 24th, I know Best Buy does that, so if they were going to lower it why not do it prior. I think they will do like the PS3 did and wait until summer when console sales are slowest. Well unless Sony is killing them in sales, then they may be forced to do it sooner.
$ 400 and I'm in.
He's butthurt just like Cliffy B.
even so PS4 will dominate .. with X1 price drop or not
There's going to be a $400 model.
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