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Submitted by Abriael 435d ago | news

Sony: PS3 Games Streaming Via Cloud in 2014 for US Only, No Timeline for Europe, PS4 Games Later

The ability to stream games via the cloud is going to be an important selling point for PS4, but when can gamers expect to enjoy it? According to Sony Computer Entertainment Europe President Jim Ryan it really depends on where they live and what they want to stream. (Jim Ryan, PS Vita, PS3, PS4)

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Pillsbury1  +   435d ago
Nice! Can't wait to stream me some classics, only on playstation!
AngelicIceDiamond  +   435d ago
Makes sense, U.S is the standard territory for new releases in tech. Such as Gaikai to kick things off.
sunnygrg  +   435d ago
Yup.

Cellphone carriers bloating prices every year, ISPs throttling connection speeds among other things.

#1 indeed.
M-M  +   435d ago
Really?
georgeenoob  +   435d ago
I bet if MS was in the title instead of Sony the comments would blow up with sheep and there would be a boycott or some shizzle.
AngelicIceDiamond  +   435d ago
I guess I'm wrong then. Anyone care to clear things up for me.
HammadTheBeast  +   435d ago | Well said
Japan usually has this tech early, and EU is much more technologically developed than US.
PLASTICA-MAN  +   435d ago
Gaikai max resolution is 720p, which is fine if they want to stream PS3 games, but how will they stream PS4 games then? Will they upgrade their servers? And Gaikai for USA first does that mean you have to live in the US or you just need an US account to play first?
torchic  +   435d ago
@angelic

if you read the article you'd know why they're starting with US while EU gets it later
badz149  +   435d ago
damn those US citizens are lucky
and eventhough I'm not interested in using the service as I still have 3 working PS3s in my possession, it's nice to have the choice. but knowing my country, it might never see the light of day here :(
andrewsqual  +   435d ago
@georgeenoob Yep and by Xbots too no doubt just like with the no DRM thing. What difference did it make to PlayStation fans about the policies for Xbone?
NumOnePS3FanBoy  +   435d ago
They need to stop looking at EU as not as important as U.S. EU is PS territory and Sony needs to release services their too asap or same day as any other territory. ANd i'm in the u.s
gaffyh  +   435d ago
I think this is more to do with stuff like the US is pretty much one large landmass, and it is easier to implement the server infrastructure etc. I'd also argue that people in the US want BC more than other territories, I personally don't care about BC, but sucks that Europe is getting shafted like always.
minimur12  +   434d ago
and the broken promises start...
miyamoto  +   434d ago
@ Crossing Eden
"so, microsoft limits some of their services and people flip, sony limits this service and gets praised -_-"

Where in the article did it say Sony is limiting its Gaikai service?
Jim Ryan said phased approach.
Do you know or have seen the entirety of Gaikai?
You know what is limited? Your reading comprehension and ability to troll effectively.
Try harder next time, bro.
morganfell  +   434d ago
The day I heard Sony was going to buy Gaikai I ceased my purchase of physical game discs knowing that any PS3/Vita purchase in digital form would likely later be available on PS4. And since I owned the digital version already my ability to stream would in all likelihood be covered on that title I owned.
BallsEye  +   434d ago
Dude, travel a bit. Here, in Eastern Europe my 71 y old uncle got 100mbps connection at 15 USD (converted from local currency) a month. Also free mobile internet in whole country at 1 mbps. I still see those old TV's and monitors in US, you can't find those in my country anymore even if you want to! probably because already for few years analog signal television is not available, only digital HD one. You do get hollywood movies first tho...and probably the newest techs are introduced in Japan first (most of time atleast). You should check out their beauty saloons, it's from outta space! (No I didn't go for myself, got an asian wife, lol) US is probably first for hollywood movies and new McDonald deals =O....just kiddin...
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Mike134nl  +   434d ago
In the past gaikai was also available in Europe. It does makes sense as US is the strongest xbox market. Not sure if they need to rebuild infrastructure as they already did their pilot in the EU.
Also not sure why people (who own a ps3) would want to stream their ps3 games. Requires always on internet you cannot play games offline.
andibandit  +   434d ago
Am I the only one living in europe and a bit frustrated by this????....no timeline for europe?!?!?!?!?
fr0sty  +   434d ago
Europe is a trickier market to roll a service like this in, mainly because instead of dealing with one country you are dealing with many. Bandwidth caps are also more common in Europe than here in the USA.

It isn't that they're trying to "leave europe out". It's just that Europe is a more complex beast to tackle.
BattleAxe  +   434d ago
I really wish Sony would give us more details on this streaming service, like how much it will cost, or does it allow you to stream games that you've already purchased as digital downloads on the PS3 for free.

I think this is probably one of the most important features for the PS4, so some clarity would be good. Hopefully we'll hear more about it in the months leading up to the launch of the PS4.
SilentNegotiator  +   434d ago
@georgeenoob

Are you aware that 99.99999% of your comments are just "Oh yeah?! But if it was teh Sony...!!!"?
AO1JMM  +   434d ago
@ HammadTheBeast

"EU is much more technologically developed than US"

Please show me your source. EU is not a country all in itself.
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Kanzes  +   435d ago
Does people in Asia can use this feature too?
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r21  +   435d ago
Seeing as Japan is one of their profitable areas and the place where PS is quite popular, bet we can see Gaikai being there after or before the US launch.
NBT91  +   434d ago
No. It is releasing in America, which is not in Asia.

I'm pretty sure its to do with regulations and laws, not which is more profitable or technologically advanced.
That's the excuse they always use for everything arriving late in Europe at least.
guitarded77  +   435d ago
I hope they implement that trophy patent that surfaced a few months back and add them to all the classics.
Skate-AK  +   435d ago
Man, I have a big enough backlog as it is. If they did that I would probably develop a Vitamin D deficiency.
TheBrownBandito  +   435d ago
I'm buying into the next gen for PS4 games. Waiting to stream PS3 games really isn't a deal breaker.
Kiddcarter  +   435d ago
I understand this service for ps4 and vita, but I'm confused as to why i need the ability to stream ps3 games to a ps3
TheUndertaker85  +   435d ago
Simply put, ease of access.

Would mean instead of having to go to the nearest store to pick up a game or waiting for it to download if purchased digitally you could simply buy then start playing, little to no wait.
stuna1  +   435d ago
Suppose you don't want to go out and buy the game at a retailer Sony gives you the ability to stream it directly to your PS3, or the game is simply sold out, you don't have to go around searching for it, or for it to be restocked.
Kiddcarter  +   435d ago
ok thanks
Bigpappy  +   434d ago
Steaming is renting. You don't own a darn thing.
GameCents  +   435d ago
LOL SONY <3 USA
CrossingEden  +   435d ago
so, microsoft limits some of their services and people flip, sony limits this service and gets praised -_-
Wintersun616  +   435d ago
I don't see much praising here. And this is in no way similar to MS paywalls and attempts to DRM. This is implementing a new technology and testing it in one region before launching it worldwide. Also the actual reason EU territories aren't getting it is the ridiculous EU laws. Completely different situations.
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S2Killinit  +   434d ago
@CrossingEden
read the article please, there is a difference between what Microsoft tries to pull and this.
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1nsaint  +   435d ago
I wonder how its gonna work with titles that u already own on ps3, i'd imagine anything bought on psn will transfer, making it free on ps4.

Not sure how it's gonna work with games we have on discs though..
Wintersun616  +   435d ago
I'm sure PS4 would be able to recognize a PS3 game disc even without the ability to actually play them. So it could be just: insert PS3 game disc, start streaming.
1nsaint  +   435d ago
^ that would be awesome, if sony can pull that of its actually backward compatible :)
fermcr  +   435d ago
LOL. The funny thing is that if this was Microsoft instead of Sony... everybody would be bashing Microsoft and a few articles would be written to say Microsoft is the devil reincarnated.

Sony first presented payed multiplayer, now this. Sony is getting away quite easy this time around. Are there going to be more surprises? I'm curious to see how PS+ with the PS4 is going to be, if they will offer as many games as they offered with the PS3.
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Angeljuice  +   434d ago
At first there won't be as many games because there aren't many games for the PS4 as of yet (thought that was quite obvious). It will grow as a service over time (as it did on PS3).
extermin8or  +   435d ago
You're notwrong at least they have their priorities hmm, they know who the guinnea pigs to test everything on are and who to release a fully functioning, testd product too.... (EU, Japan etc)
greenlantern2814  +   434d ago
Also makes sense since u.s is the only territory where they trail Xbox, but sony should be very careful not to alienate the other regions so give to u.s first but don't make Europe, UK, Japan, etc. Wait to long.
3-4-5  +   434d ago
This is awesome. Now all these PS3 games that are releasing can be played on the PS4.

Good job. Hopefully they support it for Europe to, as they have a huge following there.
TAURUS-555  +   434d ago
it makes sense.
SatanSki  +   434d ago
I probably wouldnt play streamed game for free with its crapy video and lag.
xtremeimport  +   434d ago
They REALLY need to get this service out ASAP. This is a huge a feature that can really be a bragging point for Sony. It will move Vitas as well.

Look forward to seeing this on every Ps4.
Majin-vegeta  +   435d ago
Excellent.Let's hope it's not too long for European players to get it.
Abriael  +   435d ago
I'm a tad sad that we'll get it later (as usual), even if it's hardly Sony's fault.
GamersRulz  +   435d ago
its late in EU because of different laws and procedures. EU has a very strict laws.
HammadTheBeast  +   435d ago
Well, you're lucky since you get PS4 early.
extermin8or  +   435d ago
Well at least they'll have had time to test it :p
psyxon  +   435d ago
it most likely won't be. it's probably due to servers.
ginsunuva  +   435d ago
Yes they have to place servers in different continents for latency.
andibandit  +   434d ago
I stopped reading @ "Excellent"
DarkZane  +   435d ago
I wonder if US includes Canada here. Usually, it does, but can't be too sure here. They either mean USA or North America. They probably means North America and that would include it.
Liefx  +   435d ago
I certainly hope so. I am ready to throw money at them so they had better get it before I get upset.
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Software_Lover  +   435d ago
.....................
Wow. Just, wow.
ltachiUchiha  +   435d ago
Yeah it sucks because europe gets the shaft with most gaming companies. Im sure there will be some goodies to make up for europe gamers. I feel bad for them though because they pay a grip for games & consoles. It makes sense though since america was the worst area versus the 360 so their trying to win back the US.
HammadTheBeast  +   435d ago
Have you guys SEEN the games you get for PS+? Much better than US.
-GametimeUK-  +   435d ago
The only issue I have with getting a PS4 is the inevitable delays we get over here. I'm not just talking about this streaming because sometimes the delays are understandable and are given good reasons, but there is no denying that SCEE are a bunch of incompetent clowns. Unrelated delay... we still don't have CSGO. No reason given and I ask weekly on the blog.
AutoCad  +   435d ago
wait what? should have read the fine print on this smh
rainslacker  +   435d ago
They said it pretty clearly in their E3 conference. No reading required.

This post clarified the European implementation of it.
Whitey2k  +   435d ago
I don't understand why they always have to focus on america whrn they always shafting there biggest install base Europe
sloth3395  +   435d ago
Europe doesnt follow 1 set of laws they have alot of different ones from different parts of it thats why
Whitey2k  +   435d ago
Yeah even so with the laws but they could of fought o since the laws are different in Europe we start there first
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HakatoX  +   435d ago
Whitey 2k
I dont think it would be worth it for just a test.
remember lawyers live off caviar fed directly up their rears with golden shovels with diamond handles by orphaned children.
extermin8or  +   435d ago
The Uk wont be far behind, we usually get stuff first in europe and not long after the USa-I hope it's not like the video store though that took years....
nominal266  +   435d ago
I really hope we can stream some PS3 games in the future. Im keeping my PS3 anyway, but it would be cool to have some of my digital downloads be transferred to a new console. Just give me some of my online purchase credit and value. If not, oh well. =\
drsfinest72  +   435d ago
So no one bash Sony for not doing a worldwide rollout on gaikai. But if it was Microsoft instead they would go all ham n shit I bet
Hicken  +   435d ago
How many comments mentioning the different laws in each of the countries in Europe that make rolling this out difficult are you going to skip past?

Releasing a console worldwide isn't nearly as difficult. And seeing as they essentially picked and chose what countries to release in... yeah, not an even comparison.
Salooh  +   435d ago
I honestly won't use gaikai if they released it today in middle east. It will not work, so why would i complain ?. You are comparing a console to a service. That's silly..

My network is unlimited but have a limit 120 GB (that's because i'm an old customer , 60GB if im new ) , less then 1mb/s even though in the paper i should get 24mb/s.

This is the most expensive interent in my country. Maybe when gaikai is available we will get a real upgrade. So i don't mind waiting..
andibandit  +   434d ago
Cool story bro, but i dont see how that helps those of us living in europe
Allowen  +   435d ago
I wonder if that XboxOne cloud thing to boost games will come at day one or only later on.

Because for that console Cloud gaming or computing is more of a priority then it is for the PS4.
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Whitey2k  +   435d ago
I just play offline for abit its good but not paying out for half arsed features streaming comming to the uk in 2015 folks
PositiveEmotions  +   435d ago
Well i hope all ps games come to psn/ps+ before the end of 2014
FrightfulActions  +   435d ago
I imagine Plus users will be seeing a lot of freebies using Gaikai. PS Plus member? Heres a couple PS3 games free to stream. I can see that becoming a thing, especially on PS4 since PS3 games would be considered lastgen. Plus is already a great service, a few freebie streams would only make it better. It'd also help offset one of the only 'cons' of Plus subscription: running out of HDD space due to all the free games you get.

I'm not even exaggerating on that last bit, I've had to delete a lot of stuff in the past just to be able to fit some of the free stuff Plus has handed out. Least the PS4 will be having a more beefy HDD, though. Probably will still eventually need to upgrade it, just watch. Games can take up a lot of room, especially when you factor in patches and DLC.
chrispseuphoria  +   435d ago
Canada, eh?
r21  +   435d ago
Thankfully, I've main my US account on the vita. Although, this means I have to use my US account on the PS4 as well.
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badz149  +   435d ago
dude
I don't think this is about which account will enable the service, I think it's more a geographical thing. you can download the Gaikai Client using US account outside the US but you will not be able to use it as this kind of things usually work on certain IP address, not account type.
BLAKHOODe  +   435d ago
Curious... I have GTA V preordered for PS3. Knowing me, after I get my PS4 in November, I'll probably never touch my PS3 again. From what I understand, with the cloud you can play every PS1, PS2 and PS3 game, right? So, if I cancel my GTA V preorder and instead buy GTA V digitally on PSN - since I own a digital copy, would I be able to stream GTA V to my PS4 when the cloud becomes available and without any transfer fee?
extermin8or  +   435d ago
I think so, although GAIKAI may require an extra subscription of some kind or a new tier of PS plus to be able to stream via, I can't imagine it'd be more than an extra tenner ontop of plus or at most 20 quid-hell might even end up part of ps plus they said they hadn't decided yet... but otherwise I expect so.
danny818  +   435d ago
Makes sense actually, judging thw fact that America has a big xbox fanbase, and a big ps fanbase. They wanna try out the tech and roll out the bugs b4 a worldwide release. Beta test it on a sizable amout of gamers
kydrice  +   435d ago
I'm reserved about streaming games. I tried a game streaming service before and it felt like playing a Youtube video which was just strange.
porkChop  +   435d ago
Uh... what about Canada?
ShaunCameron  +   435d ago
America Jr.?
NBT91  +   434d ago
What about it? It says in the article other regions will come later.

But hey think of it this way - if they are starting off only streaming some PS3 games and adding more formats (including PS4 games) later, the longer you wait, the more likely that by the time it is available you will be able to stream other formats and maybe all of them.
andibandit  +   434d ago
Are you a politician by any chance?
porkChop  +   434d ago
I just don't understand the wait for Canada. The 2 countries are very similar in terms of market trends and entertainment consumption.
Bigpappy  +   434d ago
They always forget to mention Canada. When they say U.S. that normally includes Canada, but is not always the case. I get why that is annoying. To bad you are a PS fan on this site. The herd here can be brutal. They would throw you to the wolves in a second if you comment negatively against 'The Lord and Savior SONY'. Even if you are a PS fan. Good look my friend.
Corpser  +   435d ago
Why would it be a selling point for ps4 when it's also coming to pc and tablets?
vigilante_man  +   435d ago
So I will be able to play PS3 games on my Vita? Sounds great to me. But not for a while it seems for us Europeans. Gives them time to iron out initial issues...

This could be the most amazing service in the long run. PS1/PS2/PS3 & PS4 games streaming. What a way to preserve your history for future generations.
hellzsupernova  +   435d ago
The only way I would be interested if trophies worked on ps2 games then I would use this service otherwise I don't care
joemanueel222  +   435d ago
Lol Online only :)
but i guess nobody is bitching because this is sony.
extermin8or  +   435d ago
no because the console will work fine offline.... and how can you stream games via the internet if you aren't online some of the idiots on this site....
NihonjinChick  +   434d ago
Obviously nobody is omplainig. Streaming games couldn't work offline. It's an online service that needs online to work.

The One required you to connect every 24 hours, even when you weren't using online services.
telekeneticmantis  +   435d ago
Yea cool but
How bout Planetside 2 on ultra settings.
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Spontogical  +   435d ago
With regards to cloud streaming. As a European I don't regard this as a 'shaft' like most European gamers would describe it like.

So many individual laws and technicalities involved with bringing this to the EU - it will not be ready until well into the 8th generation. Most likely 2015 for the UK, and the rest of the world from that time period as well.

Still getting a PS4 though, it's pointless for me to get one at launch, given my huge backlog of PS3 games not to mention, the PS Vita as well.

Guess it will take a while before the PS3 + PS4 games can be streamed on the Vita.
Bigpappy  +   434d ago
Gaikai was already setup in EU when Sony bought it.

You need a better apology like: They have to upgrade the service and starting with the U.S. would be easier because ... bla, bla, bla.

Making up good excuses is harder than you think. Just ask Greenberg or what ever the Xbox PR guy's name is.
Spontogical  +   434d ago
Oh right in that case I don't understand why there'd be delays then.

Haha true. I wonder if Major Nelson still wants us to go to the future with him. :D
MasterCornholio  +   435d ago
My 100 MBs connection is waiting for this.

BTW i live in Europe :(
superterabyte  +   434d ago
I don't know why comments from European's are getting downvoted =/ I live in the UK and am expected to pay much more for the PS4 as well as not getting the same services FML
Master of Unlocking  +   435d ago
WHY only in the US??? It wouldn't have something to do with the fact David Perry, the head-honcho of Gaikai, is American, I hope?
And why only PS3 games? What about PS1 & PS2 games?
Phoenix76  +   435d ago
This is the way that M$ should have tried with X180, not just trying to force us into using a streaming download service and checks from the word go.
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